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So. Let's do this.
LS is town and this post explains why
1. His emotional outburst
LS is one of the worst scum of TL. The reason, his town play: he is super emotional and crumble at the slightest suspicion on him, claiming in the process if he's blue. He cannot replicate this as scum. So reading him is easy; puts pressure on him, sees how he reacts.
That is what happened. FF randomly listed LS as scum; LS raged, posted all caps posts insulting FF and left the game. I am convinced LS just cannot do this as scum.
This reason makes LS town. In case it doesn't completely convince you, I'm gonna list a second one that I THINK makes LS town too, but I'm way less sure it cannot be fake as scum.
2. The way he posts reads and interrogates people about his reads is townie
LS this game has been constantly asking for people reads. His own reads are not in depth but very short and understandable. This is how I remember LS playing as town, though I think he could tryhard and appear town in that manner as scum.
Talking about this for the interrogation:
+ Show Spoiler +On February 25 2016 06:44 LightningStrike wrote:
FF when you get done catching up can I get your reads please? On February 25 2016 13:10 LightningStrike wrote:
So Breshke and VA's filters look like shit for different rasons.
VA filter he doesn't exlpain his reads at all and think it's obvious for us why Breshke is scum yet doesn't explain it.
Breshke's haven't tried to do something his probing and stuff or at least attempt to.
They both bad but one of them is scum. When Breshke gets here and VA is around at the same time I will need to question them harder.
@VA Explain before the FF being the innocent child why you thought Breshke was scum? Also Why is Breshke scum over you?
@Breshke Comment on VA and other Cells and why VA is scum over you at this time? On February 25 2016 13:15 LightningStrike wrote:
Also VA can you explain your other reads too please? On February 25 2016 22:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay kur, Rels, and Shape can I have your reads please? On February 26 2016 00:30 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 00:27 VayneAuthority wrote:On February 26 2016 00:22 LightningStrike wrote:On February 26 2016 00:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
its possible mafia are just sac'ing this cell since we used 50/50 on it and just having breshke say nothing so he doesnt spew any info. mafia talk about that stuff all the time. as a result i also would not give anyone too much cred on this cell as time progresses.
I don't really feel a need to post beyond this. Ugh I did ask you something that I want to answer.... if i didnt answer i probably thought it was a stupid question but feel free to ask again if you want Well I wanted you to give me your reads that was all.
His latest read post for an example of his reads:
+ Show Spoiler +On February 26 2016 05:43 LightningStrike wrote:Warning Wall of Text: Okay here are my reads now: Cell A: Ritoky-Town: I liked his posts for the most part and he actually tried to stir discussion up. Sicklucker-Null: I lost my ability to read him after Linux  kur-Either Newbie Town or Scum: I like some of his posts but I also don't like some of them. I will need to prod him and sicklucker to see who the scum are in this Cell. Cell B: OWS-Town: It feels like town OWS here and I like some of his posts. Damdred-Town: Emotional Damdred is Town Damdred plus he tried to stir up discussion too. Shape-PoE Scum: Unfortunately you are my scum by PoE in that cell I know you just played a scum game recently(Will check it) but I just think OWS and Damdred are townier than you <3 though Cell C: Me-Towm: I know my alignment obviously lol. Rels-Town: Rels as scum was more into buddying people and plus angry Rels is town Rels too. I also liked most of his posts so far. Darth-Scum: PoE Scum probably a newbie scum. His content was kinda meh in my opinion. Cell D: FF-Town: Confirmed via 50-50 much more carefree than the last few games I had played with him. VA-Null Townlean: I honestly dislike his filter but it not as bad as Breshke in my mind. If I wrong on anyone in this cell it's VA I don't know how to read properly. Breshke-Scum: Never tried to defend himself after the 50-50 happened and never explained why VA was the scum. Cell E: kush-town: Tryhard kush is town kush plus his probing seems townie. Vivax-Town: Seems to be a little bit more tryhard plus he already had tried to do a tinfoil which he normally does as town.(Him and Shape should be best friends lol) Bum-scum: PoE Scum He misrepresented me hard about FF rage quitting when it was Sicklucker who told FF to stop posting. Plus his content been meh for a Vet player.
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I am town and this post explains why
1. I'm pushing for the game to be solved
Reading my filter, you should see that I'm constantly pushing for the game to be solved with my posts. The vast majority of my psots are either questionning or posting my reads with explanation. No buddying, almost no joke. I'm focused on solving the game and that is indicating me as town. I'm not pushing a scum agenda; if I was scum, the only lynch I could influence besides my cell was the first cell's lynch, and I was one of the main force pushing Breshke, even before the 50/50.
2. I scumread / voted Breshke before the 50/50
Here was my reads after catching up, with me voting Breshke:
On February 24 2016 22:46 Rels wrote:
My reads:
VA => aggressivly posting his thoughts and scumreads
FF => kinda useless, don't know. Hope he's chosen by 50/50 if he's town.
Breshke => his posts N0 are scum indicative. Questions that are useless or do not lead anywhere, only for the 3 hours that followed the game start. After that, only posted after his cell was chosen as the first to go.
Will vote Breshke for now.
Here is me pusning Breshke before the 50/50:
On February 25 2016 00:11 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 00:06 Damdred wrote:
I think you misunderstood my point about breshke rels. The question wasn't whether we should use the 50/50 or not but breshke said don't insta use it which forces him to do work on both. Oh. That might be good actually.
On February 25 2016 00:15 Rels wrote:
He still didn't post relevant stuff unless being up for lynch though. His N0 posts are useless. His posts start of D1 are OK.
Mm actually it's weird that he is looking through FF's past scum games to check the difference, and not VA who is more likely scum in his mind.
Here is me questioning DF's weird townread on Breshke before the 50/50:
On February 25 2016 01:47 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 01:35 darthfoley wrote:On February 25 2016 00:08 Rels wrote:Actually I don't understand this post at all. On February 24 2016 10:39 darthfoley wrote:Meh I've gone through VA/FF/Breshke's filters and I don't really have strong vibes from any of them. I'm not sure why people are town reading FF. Most of his posts about other games or kinda useless. I found it kinda weird when he called Breshke out for talking actively about cell order pros/cons. On February 23 2016 09:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oh so I'm in a cell with breshke.
All his posts are pretty benign questions that don't talk about anyone, just about cell order. If he's so interested in cell order why is he so disinterested in mayor?
Mostly setup talk so far actually so it's not enough to call him scum but I don't particularly like anything he's posted so far Posts he was referencing: + Show Spoiler +On February 23 2016 07:25 Breshke wrote:
Should all would be mayors post what their cell order would be since that is really the only thing that would differentiate them?
Just at a quick glance ritoky like say without reading anyone's posts what would you make the order? On February 23 2016 07:35 Breshke wrote:
Rit is the assumption right that you want to put the "strong" players in the final cells and the weaker players in the early cells?
Or is cell 4 more important than cell 5 because cell 5 you have like all the information to go off? On February 23 2016 08:24 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 08:16 nooniansoong wrote:
Of course order needs to be reevaluated closer to EoD depending on how people look so far.
I am kind of in agreement with ritoky's order, but more active people should be put first. D might be better to save just because those are all low content players, so deciding early on them might be hard. im kind of confused here though. If all the active people are put in the earlier phases won't that mean the later phases are just an afk party. I thought you would do it the other way around and put cells with the less active people earlier I don't think any of these posts are bad, and they give me a towny vibe from Breshke. You don't have to be running for mayor to care about cell order. This sounds like someone trying to work through the strategy of cell order from town perspective. VA I am slightly scum reading right now... I liked Kush's reasoning behind his cell order and where to put easy/hard cells more than VA's argument, but I am not sure if that's alignment indicative yet. Seems like a mafia thing to want: planting the hard cells early so they just win a quick 3-0 or 3-1. VA's only real contribution so far is that on the off chance we get to cell 5 and the game is going, town will have a better chance of winning. I think Kush's approach of win now rather than later is much more town oriented. Think we should think about 50/50 here if the play doesn't pick up About FF, since "Most of his posts about other games or kinda useless" and his only relevant post (about Breshke) are bad, FF HAS to be scum right ? Yet he seems super unsure about that fact. I don't undersatnd the VA scumread. If the scumread was only: VA's only real contribution so far is that on the off chance we get to cell 5 and the game is going, town will have a better chance of winning then OK, I would get it. But that shit is overexplained with stuff that is apparently "not alignment indicative yet". To me, it looks like DF is scum with Breshke, got shit on both FF and VA, and is waiting to see on which the 50/50 is going to fall. No, he doesn't HAVE to be scum. The reason I think 50/50 would be quite beneficial on this group is simply because all three of the players have been underwhelming. I don't think any of them have added useful town discussion, so I consider this cell a crap shoot with VA/FF feeling more scummy than Breshke. I'm unsure about FF right now because I have to accept the fact that only 1 out of 3 players in this meh scummy cell is scum. Your reason for townreading Breshke is super bad though. He posts 3 things that are talking about cell strategy, that are completely not alignment indicative, even scum indicative when added to the fact that it is the only thing he has talked about N0, and you think he sounds "like someone trying to work through the strategy of cell order from town perspective."
I you think I am scum, you think I've bused from the very beginning of the game. What for ? There is no "scum carry" in this game. Each lynch is worth 1 point. Me busing Breshke from the very beginning meant my team automatically lost 1 point, and since I will be out of this game after today I don't even have the opportunity to do anything with this town cred other than gaining that point back.
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Writing a case on DF but gotta stop for lunch. Will finish it afterwards!
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On February 26 2016 19:42 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Rels. Pushing breshke doesn't get you that much town cred. I wonder what is your towniest post.
It does. I am a strong scum, I could have maybe get VA lynched instead of Breshke. Probably not but I would have probably tried, then use that same defense DF is using right now: "hey if I was scum I wouldn't have defended my partner like that!". Even if I didn't try, I would have never pushed my partner like I did, especially before knowing FF was confirmed town.
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DF is scum and you should vote him
1. His townread on Breshke was bad
His townread on Breshke was based on two reasons. First:
+ Show Spoiler +On February 23 2016 16:05 darthfoley wrote:I know Breshke hasn't posted much but I liked this post of his Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 08:24 Breshke wrote:On February 23 2016 08:16 nooniansoong wrote:
Of course order needs to be reevaluated closer to EoD depending on how people look so far.
I am kind of in agreement with ritoky's order, but more active people should be put first. D might be better to save just because those are all low content players, so deciding early on them might be hard. im kind of confused here though. If all the active people are put in the earlier phases won't that mean the later phases are just an afk party. I thought you would do it the other way around and put cells with the less active people earlier Why would mafia not want an AFK party near the end? Also, didn't particularly like Kush's response Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 08:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Inactive people in early cells is bad because there's not a lot of content to go off of While that's true, you're kinda just kicking the can down the road if you want to keep AFK people in longer. Wouldn't town benefit longer from having many active players left in longer? On February 24 2016 10:39 darthfoley wrote:
I don't think any of these posts are bad, and they give me a towny vibe from Breshke. You don't have to be running for mayor to care about cell order. This sounds like someone trying to work through the strategy of cell order from town perspective.
Breshke posted a few questions at the very beginning of the game. These questions were completely NAI if taken alone, and scum indicative as a whole as it's the only thing Breshke had done N0. DF townreading Breshke for this reason does not make sense: this read is fabricated.
Second reason:
+ Show Spoiler +On February 25 2016 05:33 darthfoley wrote:
VA I've never said that i'm set in my scum read of you. But when 8/15 people have already voted for Breshke, and there are 5/15 mafia in the game, I don't like the optics.
To switch gears a bit, your post implies that you can't be convinced that LS is mafia, why?
Too many people voted Breshke in a row, so Breshke has to be town.
Well, first this number is wrong: 6 people voted in a row when DF made this post. This migth mean nothing but it's way less extreme than DF made it out to be.
Secondly, he had kinda the same reaction to Palmar being lynched D1 in Star Wars; and Palmar flipped scum. He should have learned that several people piling on a guy doesn't m ean the guy is town. This looks like he used his star wars game town meta to create an excuse to townread Breshke.
2. His reaction to my VA read is not understandable
On February 25 2016 05:29 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 05:23 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Darth, I don't think it makes you scum, but I find your reasoning for voting vayne very weak.
So what if he disagrees with me on cell order. I don't think scum ever try to push for a certain mechanical decision beceause to benefit the scumteam. They're first priority is to look town so they will push stuff that they think is pro town. Much of my suspicion of VA comes from Rels really bad VA town read, which I've already gone over. I know either Rels or LS is mafia, and it is especially concerning when someone I know is good town has illogical reads. As I mentioned earlier, I think VA could be town for something along the line's of ritoky's reasoning, but not Rels.
DF is suspicious of me because of my "bad VA town read". But he's saying at the same time VA could be town.
Vivax pressured him on that since why would I invent a reason to townread VA just to have an excuse to shit on my partner Breshke. His answer:
On February 25 2016 05:34 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 05:31 Vivax wrote:On February 25 2016 05:29 darthfoley wrote:On February 25 2016 05:23 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Darth, I don't think it makes you scum, but I find your reasoning for voting vayne very weak.
So what if he disagrees with me on cell order. I don't think scum ever try to push for a certain mechanical decision beceause to benefit the scumteam. They're first priority is to look town so they will push stuff that they think is pro town. Much of my suspicion of VA comes from Rels really bad VA town read, which I've already gone over. I know either Rels or LS is mafia, and it is especially concerning when someone I know is good town has illogical reads. As I mentioned earlier, I think VA could be town for something along the line's of ritoky's reasoning, but not Rels. Why would Rels TR a town VA then, cause that would mean that he's bussing Bresh this very moment. Because if Rels is town and we just disagree on what "aggressive" play is, and LS is mafia, it makes more sense. My cell has a third person people seem to be forgetting
He dodges the question and says "Rels could be town actually". No explanation as to why he thought my VA read made me scum.
Later and even now he continues to be suspicious about me with the vague reason that I "did scummy stuff". Since he agreed I could be town and he just misunderstood my words on VA, I have no idea what "scummy stuff" he is talking about now.
3. He's making the difference between my VA read and ritoky's VA read when it's the same
On February 25 2016 05:29 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 05:23 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Darth, I don't think it makes you scum, but I find your reasoning for voting vayne very weak.
So what if he disagrees with me on cell order. I don't think scum ever try to push for a certain mechanical decision beceause to benefit the scumteam. They're first priority is to look town so they will push stuff that they think is pro town. Much of my suspicion of VA comes from Rels really bad VA town read, which I've already gone over. I know either Rels or LS is mafia, and it is especially concerning when someone I know is good town has illogical reads. As I mentioned earlier, I think VA could be town for something along the line's of ritoky's reasoning, but not Rels.
ritoky and I had the same read with different words on VA. It doesn't make sense that he townreads ritoky for it and scurmeads me in the same time. These reads are fabricated.
4. He's spending a lot of time self metaing to prove his townieness
He's actually spending more time defending himself than doing anything else, especially lately. Here is a compilation of posts:
+ Show Spoiler +On February 25 2016 04:53 darthfoley wrote:
I find it ironic that i'm playing pretty much EXACTLY how I played Star Wars D1 last game and was universally (correctly) town read for it, but here all of a sudden everyone scum reads me. I was sort of a devil's advocate in Star Wars because I really didn't like the way the Palmar wagon was shaping up. It was basically one wagon with no alternative and everyone was jumping on; I feel similarly regarding Breshke and VA right now. Everyone scum reading the same person, especially in a game with 5!!!! scum, makes me suuuuper uneasy.
@Shapelog Meta reading me in Newbie vs. this game is completely different. This is themed, and I'm playing with much better and more experienced players. I am playing a similar game compared to Star Wars: I am willing to sheep people who are better at the game and I have read town, but I am also willing to point out logical inconsistencies and uneasy wagons when I see them.
Maybe Breshke is scum who has just gone AFK or whatever and people are trying to jump on him and get town cred, but it makes no sense for scum!darthfoley to be the only one willing to defend/challenge conventional wisdom. On February 25 2016 05:01 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 04:58 VayneAuthority wrote:On February 25 2016 04:53 darthfoley wrote:On February 25 2016 03:42 VayneAuthority wrote:
I work in an ENT office so i have very random internet access/downtime, so yea.
but anyways darthfoley looks even worse now, might be able to go 2-0 here. Why do I look worse for saying, "I don't know why people are town reading FF after looking at his filter" I found and still find his filter super underwhelming. It was at max null for me. I also don't know why this doesn't make Rels look worse for you, considering he basically drew the same conclusion as me regarding FF--> kinda useless, null or scum lean. @Shapelog... Not sure what i'm supposed to say to you having a "weird" vibe from my #640 post. @Rels I still think your "VA is being aggressive" line is bullshit. Your explanation was basically just him throwing a few names out early. How is that aggressive when there's NO explanation? I guess Kush plays every game aggressive then because of his random scum list 1.1 1.2 lists. Aggressively implies that he's pushing his reads. He's done no pushing, and seems very happy with me being scum read, stating over and over how great it's going to be when "we go up 2-0" we = ??? The VA town I've played with in Unoriginal didn't do much D1 and came out with a blockbuster read post that completely read my scum play, with reasoning and all. He just seems more willing to go with the flow in this game, which isn't how he played last time. His play reminds me more of the Star Wars scum game I played with him. I find it ironic that i'm playing pretty much EXACTLY how I played Star Wars D1 last game and was universally (correctly) town read for it, but here all of a sudden everyone scum reads me. I was sort of a devil's advocate in Star Wars because I really didn't like the way the Palmar wagon was shaping up. It was basically one wagon with no alternative and everyone was jumping on; I feel similarly regarding Breshke and VA right now. Everyone scum reading the same person, especially in a game with 5!!!! scum, makes me suuuuper uneasy. @Shapelog Meta reading me in Newbie vs. this game is completely different. This is themed, and I'm playing with much better and more experienced players. I am playing a similar game compared to Star Wars: I am willing to sheep people who are better at the game and I have read town, but I am also willing to point out logical inconsistencies and uneasy wagons when I see them. Maybe Breshke is scum who has just gone AFK or whatever and people are trying to jump on him and get town cred, but it makes no sense for scum!darthfoley to be the only one willing to defend/challenge conventional wisdom. you look worse for defending breshke and I now know 100% that breshke is scum, simple as that. Thats why you now look worse. dunno what tangent you were even going off on Okay, let's accept your premise that breshke is 100% scum. Why does my defense of him make me scum? You literally played with me last game and I did the same thing with Palmar when I was town. Not seeing why you are so attached with this being alignment indicative On February 25 2016 05:26 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 05:22 bumatlarge wrote:
@darth, people not explaining the "why" to their opinions seems to be the theme of this game. well i think i've explained why I think things relatively thoroughly so far. Do you want clarification on something? Also @VA, people weren't really scum reading me in a serious way until I started to defend Breshke. From a mafia POV, what's the point of sticking your neck out for a cell that is almost certainly going to get 50/50'd if your scum partner is the heavily scum read person in it? Does this game remind you at all of my scum play in Unoriginal? I'd say it's about as different as you could be. On February 25 2016 17:09 darthfoley wrote:
Yea exactly. I'm just gonna stop overthinking things in the future if Breshke is flips obvious mafia kinda like palmar in the Star Wars game lol On February 25 2016 18:30 darthfoley wrote:
this is actually so annoying and i'm going to be quite peeved when either of the confirmed town LS or Rels comes back as mafia and we lose the cell.
Rels I accidentally looked at the mayor count vote instead of the VA/Breshke vote. My point is still valid and idk why accidentally writing 8 instead of 6 makes me confirmed scum.
I later explained my logic after that post Rels. I really don't know why you guys think I would choose my hill to die on D1 defending my completely afk scum teammate when I could just bus him for town points like probably the rest of mafia are doing right now.
i t m a k e s n o s e n s e On February 25 2016 18:36 darthfoley wrote:
Yes. It is similar to my Star Wars game D1 regarding Palmar/Zyrre. Granted I was wrong in that game, but I really don't like when someone goes AFK and all of a sudden EVERYONE is scum reading that person, ESPECIALLY with the other person (VA) not doing anything imo to warrant the town reads he is getting On February 26 2016 04:40 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 02:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On February 26 2016 01:38 darthfoley wrote:
Yup at this point I think it's pretty clear that Breshke got marching orders from the other mafia to just lie down and take it after the 50/50 was used so as not to incriminate anyone. Over a day of inactivity with your cell on the line is just too much. Ugh
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##Vote:Breshke The ugh at the end indicates frustration right? Why are you frustrated over an easy scum lynch? Yea i'm frustrated. Because I spent half of my cycle wasting my breath defending someone who has turned out to be mega obvious mafia, while getting almost universally wrongly scum read for it. It's great if we successfully used our 50/50 and go up 1:0, but town would be in an amazing decision if we go up 2:0 after my cell and if I can't change people's minds, that won't happen. Can't remember who said it, but I endorse using the audience power for my group too unless there's some obvious reason i'm missing. Going up 2:0 should basically ensure a town win. On February 26 2016 06:56 darthfoley wrote:
Just wanna say that the theory that i'm scum is:
Breshke is read scum by people
Everyone knows Ritoky will likely use 50/50 on the cell
I decide to go super out of my way to reverse buss Breshke while my three other mafia teammates buss him
I put a huge target on my back
Breshke goes AFK
Everyone scum reads me
Breshke gets killed, town up 1:0
I get killed, town up 2:0
like this is really unlikely and super super dumb mafia play On February 26 2016 09:38 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 07:02 sicklucker wrote:
darth i wanna hear alot from you today. your in a weird spot because your vs two of my only townreads. But I dont acualy scum read you?. im voting you now but it could change I will filter dive Rels and LS. I'm more than willing to answer people's questions. As you said, i'm in a tough spot because people are meta town reading my cellmates, making me PoE mafia instead of actually having a mafia read on me which is rather annoying. At least that's the vibe i've gotten from everyone not in my cell. Even LS is PoE mafia me! Either way, Rels or LS is aware of their town meta and are exploiting it to great use so far. From what a few players were saying early game, I tend to think Rels is the more likely candidate to be able to emulate town play as scum-- at least that's what someone said early on who had experience with scum!Rels. My biggest defense right now is that if i'm mafia I've played a terribly stupid game. Now that might be believable in a regular mafia game, but there are other 4 mafia members who didn't tell me to cut it out early on. The smart mafia TEAM move is to buss Breshke, win cell 2 and consolidate from there. No way mafia sticks their neck out for a completely AFK Breshke. Think that was proven by Breshke not providing any information in the last 24h for town to decipher. I ask Kush, Shapelog or anyone who saw my scum or town play; does it really feel like i'm playing as mafia right now? Or are you just PoE stratting right now? I've been way more engaged, posted my thoughts-- even if they're unpopular-- and cared more than in my scum game in which I just went with whatever was hip and cool at the time. Anyways I realize this isn't enough, so I will accompany it with cell reads later. I have confidence that we can win this cell and I won't give up until the end of the day On February 26 2016 09:45 darthfoley wrote:
That's fair. But no one has yet to "get" me on what my supposed endgame as mafia is from my D1 play. Kuragari and I with a bit of Vivax were the only ones who were skeptical of VA, and they are both in later cells. Why would mafia risk losing 2 cells in a row right at the beginning by trying to save a sunken ship? I might be less experienced than some players, but i'm not that dumb. This seems so obvious to me man. It's clear imo that mafia is in a less than ideal situation, and going down 0:2 is desperation mode. Breshke just takes one for the team and cell 2 becomes almost a must win for mafia. Who seems to be playing in must-win-this-cell mode?
5. His attitude before the 50/50 looked like he was scum with Breshke and waiting to see who the 50/50 ends up being on
Here is my post on him at the time:
On February 25 2016 00:08 Rels wrote:Actually I don't understand this post at all. Show nested quote +On February 24 2016 10:39 darthfoley wrote:Meh I've gone through VA/FF/Breshke's filters and I don't really have strong vibes from any of them. I'm not sure why people are town reading FF. Most of his posts about other games or kinda useless. I found it kinda weird when he called Breshke out for talking actively about cell order pros/cons. On February 23 2016 09:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oh so I'm in a cell with breshke.
All his posts are pretty benign questions that don't talk about anyone, just about cell order. If he's so interested in cell order why is he so disinterested in mayor?
Mostly setup talk so far actually so it's not enough to call him scum but I don't particularly like anything he's posted so far Posts he was referencing: + Show Spoiler +On February 23 2016 07:25 Breshke wrote:
Should all would be mayors post what their cell order would be since that is really the only thing that would differentiate them?
Just at a quick glance ritoky like say without reading anyone's posts what would you make the order? On February 23 2016 07:35 Breshke wrote:
Rit is the assumption right that you want to put the "strong" players in the final cells and the weaker players in the early cells?
Or is cell 4 more important than cell 5 because cell 5 you have like all the information to go off? On February 23 2016 08:24 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 08:16 nooniansoong wrote:
Of course order needs to be reevaluated closer to EoD depending on how people look so far.
I am kind of in agreement with ritoky's order, but more active people should be put first. D might be better to save just because those are all low content players, so deciding early on them might be hard. im kind of confused here though. If all the active people are put in the earlier phases won't that mean the later phases are just an afk party. I thought you would do it the other way around and put cells with the less active people earlier I don't think any of these posts are bad, and they give me a towny vibe from Breshke. You don't have to be running for mayor to care about cell order. This sounds like someone trying to work through the strategy of cell order from town perspective. VA I am slightly scum reading right now... I liked Kush's reasoning behind his cell order and where to put easy/hard cells more than VA's argument, but I am not sure if that's alignment indicative yet. Seems like a mafia thing to want: planting the hard cells early so they just win a quick 3-0 or 3-1. VA's only real contribution so far is that on the off chance we get to cell 5 and the game is going, town will have a better chance of winning. I think Kush's approach of win now rather than later is much more town oriented. Think we should think about 50/50 here if the play doesn't pick up About FF, since "Most of his posts about other games or kinda useless" and his only relevant post (about Breshke) are bad, FF HAS to be scum right ? Yet he seems super unsure about that fact. I don't undersatnd the VA scumread. If the scumread was only: Show nested quote +VA's only real contribution so far is that on the off chance we get to cell 5 and the game is going, town will have a better chance of winning then OK, I would get it. But that shit is overexplained with stuff that is apparently "not alignment indicative yet". To me, it looks like DF is scum with Breshke, got shit on both FF and VA, and is waiting to see on which the 50/50 is going to fall.
6. He's STILL undecided on who is scum between LS and I
He started by shitting on my reads. Then when I fought back he switched to LS on the "LS scumread me when my reads align with him" thing. Since then he's been undecided. He doesn't know which one of us is scum. Like point 5 where he was undecided between VA and FF, it looks like he's waiting to see who is the easier mislynch between LS and I.
Actually here is his last post in the thread:
On February 26 2016 10:13 darthfoley wrote:
Kush do you have any questions for me?
On February 26 2016 10:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 10:13 darthfoley wrote:
Kush do you have any questions for me? Is ls or rels scum?
No answer.
7. NOT A REASON: him defending Breshke is NOT town indicative
Him defending Breshke is not scum indicative per se (except it is since his reasonning for townreading Breshke is fabricated). But it is NOT town indicative.
This is a game where you win when you get to three points. You scum team can have the best scum in the world, he is only going to bring his team 1 point if he's not lynched. He's not going to carry the game.
In a standard game this defense of "I wouldn't defend my partner hardcore" would be a little more true. Just a little bit, as scum usually don't push or defend each other hardcore. But in this game, where if VA had been lynched scum team would have gotten 1 point, and DF is going to be out of the game after today anyway, there is NO advantages to bus your teammate, as the end result in the best case scenario is a draw.
Conclusion
Lynch him, gets free point.
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On February 26 2016 18:56 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 07:01 LightningStrike wrote:On February 26 2016 06:54 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On February 26 2016 06:52 LightningStrike wrote:On February 26 2016 06:36 Shapelog wrote:
Ok So Rels has posted that they like OWS posts. Pulled up only 1 post
Now LS has as well. So LS, what posts do you like from OWS?
(Also love the fact they also both use meta some what heavily) I liked a lot of proding questions from him at least him trying to move the game forward when he was here for the most part. Also the fact that he showed some emotion too which i think scum OWS didn't have(I need to recheck his filter from the 1 time I did play vs his scum). Wow what generic BS. Example of one of his posts moving the game forward? On February 23 2016 12:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On February 23 2016 12:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
obi least sure on, could easily be shapelog since he hasnt posted yet as far a sim aware Is there something I posted in particular that you didn't like? I'd assume that's the case considering you were talking about our cell earlier but afaik you haven't talked about that. What's up? On February 23 2016 13:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On February 23 2016 13:39 sicklucker wrote:On February 23 2016 13:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On February 23 2016 13:02 sicklucker wrote:
altho I def dont want ritoky mayor even if im town leaning on him since theres acualy a sick 1 in 2 chance hes scum rofl. sick game Do you actually like your odds in a different cell? i dont understand wut ur sayin You're saying you townlean ritoky but you don't want him as mayor because there's a 50% shot of him being scum. This means you like your odds elsewhere. Who, in your opinion, should be mayor? On February 24 2016 00:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
He's pretty indecisive when it comes to at least 3 of those cells - he sounds like mafia at pretty much every point where he tries to discuss things that he never actually has an opinion on.
What are you thinking? On February 25 2016 10:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred what are you thinking wrt Cell C?
I've noticed that you've posted some thoughts here and there but I haven't seen you commit to anything yet. and a couple others. He tried to get his voice heard at least. He wasn't afraid of getting his voice heard(I think he had trouble with that in the game he played scum vs me). Seems like generic questionning to me, shouldn't be that hard to fake ? Will have to meta this shit to see if scum OWS really does not do this.
LS, I opened a scum game of OWS (mini mafia down under 3) and here are some posts from the first pages:
On July 26 2015 04:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 03:36 Onegu wrote:
Rsoul why so angry?
Also why dont you believe my claim.
Legit scum read now. I don't understand how this is scummy. Elaborate?
On July 26 2015 04:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 04:13 Onegu wrote:On July 26 2015 04:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 26 2015 03:36 Onegu wrote:
Rsoul why so angry?
Also why dont you believe my claim.
Legit scum read now. I don't understand how this is scummy. Elaborate? She is more angry as scum Okay I guess. Why is her not believing your claim scummy?
On July 26 2015 12:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hope, I don't understand the point of your scott case?
Elaborate for me?
On July 27 2015 02:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Can someone explain this clarity push to me?
On July 27 2015 02:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 02:21 FirmTofu wrote:
Also, the fact that this train is catching so fast should be indicative of the fact that mafia is clearly very happy about this lynch. It wasn't really a fast train at all. In fact you only showed up after I voted you. Who's the mafia on your wagon and why?
On July 27 2015 03:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 03:07 FirmTofu wrote:On July 27 2015 03:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
FT, what did you think of Bf's list post? He was one of your top lynches but you haven't said anything about him yet. I don't see a list post in boxer's filter. He also wasn't my top lynches. I just said I'd be down to lynch him. His last few posts have been redeeming though and he does have a vote down for scott. I don't really want to lynch him anymore. Redeeming how?
On July 27 2015 04:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:goddamn Palmar. At least comment on what i said about FT?!?!? why is noone i expect to play is playing? Well you have me. :> Why is clarity probably scum?
How sure are you about "I think he had trouble with that in the game he played scum vs me" ? Don't look like he had trouble asking random questions to me. Doesn't prove he's scum ofc, but doesn't prove he's town either.
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On February 26 2016 23:03 Kuragari42 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 18:49 Rels wrote:On February 26 2016 05:37 Kuragari42 wrote:
He starts Reading FF as scum. Makes this weird bus strat post (which still makes no sense at all to me.) FF gets confirmed by 50/50. Kura goes on to question why the votes have piled on breskhe.
I don't understand how my bus strat doesn't make atleast some sense to you but I won't argue it anymore because FF was confirmed. This is your explanation and it doesn't make a single sense: On February 25 2016 01:20 Kuragari42 wrote:On February 25 2016 00:28 Rels wrote:
I don't understand. If FF is scum and VA is chosen by the 50/50, DF is forced to bus FF ? Why do you have the feeling that DF is scum with FF ? It appeared to me as though he was going for towncred. Since more people were scumming Breske, if VA were 50/50'd Breske could be the lynch even if Darth bussed. If Breske got 50/50'd, well he town read him all along. Why would you think DF is scum busing FF ? There is nothing that indicated that.
That's just what it looked like to me. If other people don't see where I'm coming from, maybe I'm just getting something out of nothing. Anyways, it doesn't really matter since FF is confirmed and I am town leaning darth.
On February 26 2016 05:37 Kuragari42 wrote:
This seems weird to me. Like he has avoided reading Breskhe (at most he said he was Null)
I was planning on posting a read all three but never had the time until today. Even "today", your post focused 50 lines on VA being potential scum and 2 on Breshke being useless. I believe it was 3 lines, lol. But is there really anything more for me to read into there? He had a 1 page filter with a bunch of nothing. I can't do tonal reads and don't know him well enough to do meta reads. That leaves me with content reads with 0 content to go off of.
Yeah I guess. It's true it's hard to see you as scum posting this mountaign of evidence that VA is scum when he had 0% chance of being lynched.
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On February 26 2016 23:22 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 22:57 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke up and passed out after trying to read Shape's filter from his scum game because his filter was to damn long -.- Will finish it today sometime when I get the motivation. On February 26 2016 22:41 Rels wrote:On February 26 2016 18:56 Rels wrote:On February 26 2016 07:01 LightningStrike wrote:On February 26 2016 06:54 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On February 26 2016 06:52 LightningStrike wrote:On February 26 2016 06:36 Shapelog wrote:
Ok So Rels has posted that they like OWS posts. Pulled up only 1 post
Now LS has as well. So LS, what posts do you like from OWS?
(Also love the fact they also both use meta some what heavily) I liked a lot of proding questions from him at least him trying to move the game forward when he was here for the most part. Also the fact that he showed some emotion too which i think scum OWS didn't have(I need to recheck his filter from the 1 time I did play vs his scum). Wow what generic BS. Example of one of his posts moving the game forward? On February 23 2016 12:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On February 23 2016 12:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
obi least sure on, could easily be shapelog since he hasnt posted yet as far a sim aware Is there something I posted in particular that you didn't like? I'd assume that's the case considering you were talking about our cell earlier but afaik you haven't talked about that. What's up? On February 23 2016 13:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On February 23 2016 13:39 sicklucker wrote:On February 23 2016 13:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On February 23 2016 13:02 sicklucker wrote:
altho I def dont want ritoky mayor even if im town leaning on him since theres acualy a sick 1 in 2 chance hes scum rofl. sick game Do you actually like your odds in a different cell? i dont understand wut ur sayin You're saying you townlean ritoky but you don't want him as mayor because there's a 50% shot of him being scum. This means you like your odds elsewhere. Who, in your opinion, should be mayor? On February 24 2016 00:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
He's pretty indecisive when it comes to at least 3 of those cells - he sounds like mafia at pretty much every point where he tries to discuss things that he never actually has an opinion on.
What are you thinking? On February 25 2016 10:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred what are you thinking wrt Cell C?
I've noticed that you've posted some thoughts here and there but I haven't seen you commit to anything yet. and a couple others. He tried to get his voice heard at least. He wasn't afraid of getting his voice heard(I think he had trouble with that in the game he played scum vs me). Seems like generic questionning to me, shouldn't be that hard to fake ? Will have to meta this shit to see if scum OWS really does not do this. LS, I opened a scum game of OWS ( mini mafia down under 3) and here are some posts from the first pages: On July 26 2015 04:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 26 2015 03:36 Onegu wrote:
Rsoul why so angry?
Also why dont you believe my claim.
Legit scum read now. I don't understand how this is scummy. Elaborate? On July 26 2015 04:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 26 2015 04:13 Onegu wrote:On July 26 2015 04:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 26 2015 03:36 Onegu wrote:
Rsoul why so angry?
Also why dont you believe my claim.
Legit scum read now. I don't understand how this is scummy. Elaborate? She is more angry as scum Okay I guess. Why is her not believing your claim scummy? On July 26 2015 12:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hope, I don't understand the point of your scott case?
Elaborate for me? On July 27 2015 02:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Can someone explain this clarity push to me? On July 27 2015 02:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 27 2015 02:21 FirmTofu wrote:
Also, the fact that this train is catching so fast should be indicative of the fact that mafia is clearly very happy about this lynch. It wasn't really a fast train at all. In fact you only showed up after I voted you. Who's the mafia on your wagon and why? On July 27 2015 03:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 27 2015 03:07 FirmTofu wrote:On July 27 2015 03:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
FT, what did you think of Bf's list post? He was one of your top lynches but you haven't said anything about him yet. I don't see a list post in boxer's filter. He also wasn't my top lynches. I just said I'd be down to lynch him. His last few posts have been redeeming though and he does have a vote down for scott. I don't really want to lynch him anymore. Redeeming how? On July 27 2015 04:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 27 2015 04:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:goddamn Palmar. At least comment on what i said about FT?!?!? why is noone i expect to play is playing? Well you have me. :> Why is clarity probably scum? How sure are you about "I think he had trouble with that in the game he played scum vs me" ? Don't look like he had trouble asking random questions to me. Doesn't prove he's scum ofc, but doesn't prove he's town either. Welp. I going back to read my filter from Aperture 4 where I was PArity/Reg Cop comboination and see why did I check OWS in that game and told ScumDamdred in that I was checking him(OWS was scum lol). Okay so I did check and it was because JAT told me to. I guess JAT found weird to OWS at the time when asked JAT who should I check(He sent me pm's in that game where pm's were allowed at night phase only)
So what was the reason JAT was suspicious of him and is it applicable here or not ?
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Dude here is you asking opinions on my cell:
On February 25 2016 10:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred what are you thinking wrt Cell C?
I've noticed that you've posted some thoughts here and there but I haven't seen you commit to anything yet.
On February 26 2016 14:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Is anyone else here? I feel like I need someone to talk to about Cell C because I'm at a loss atm.
On February 26 2016 15:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm still deciding between DF and Rels. I was hoping to talk to someone else about it but apparently nobody is here. I'll see if I can't talk things over with someone I trust tomorrow on where we should go next.
On February 26 2016 23:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Vivax, where are you at concerning Rels/DF?
And here is you giving opinions on my cell:
On February 24 2016 01:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Cell C
LightningStrike seems pretty normal from my pov - I don't see much of a reason to suspect him and his thought process seems pretty solid/followable.
Foley had some weird post earlier where he wanted his cell to go first even though he had no clue what was going on in it? He seems sort of confident that people will be able to read him town which is always nice to see in newer players so I won't hold that against him. His other big posts have been relatively solid so townlean here.
Rels hasn't posted yet so...There you go.
PoE dictates that Rels is mafia but I can't solidify that read until he does things. Foley is my least confident townread in that cell so if Rels ends up looking supertown then that's probably where I'll take a second look at things.
On February 25 2016 10:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm still confident in LS being town - nothing has changed to make me lessen that read.
On February 26 2016 04:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 04:35 ritoky wrote:
@OWS tell me m8, who you think is the most town from cells C and B? Cell C is lightningstrike, as I've stated a few times now. Cell B is...Myself I guess? Not entirely sure what you want from me here tbh.
On February 26 2016 04:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 04:53 ritoky wrote:
@OWS can you cite some specific posts about your LS read? i looked through your filter and saw in the large post you said he had solid town reasoning, then later you said you weren't wavering at all and still thought he was town.
also you have not said a word about rels since he has posted, in your filter you said he hasn't posted so why talk about him, so what do you make of him and his case on DF? I can do both of these things when I get home. I'm still at work and trying to make super quotes via phone is rough. I will concede that I have yet to read into rels at this juncture and I'll see if I can't redo that whole cell when I'm at a computer.
On February 26 2016 07:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 07:33 ritoky wrote:On February 26 2016 07:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On February 26 2016 07:13 ritoky wrote:for anyone who cares filter-wise, this is the last post in each of these 3 players' filter before FF became conf town: On February 25 2016 02:22 darthfoley wrote:
It was quite clear that I was referring to the reads I talked about as the shitty ones. This is really dumb On February 25 2016 03:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I haven't posted much I had to do a exam online and couldn't spend time at all on other sites during the time. Darth is going after Rels. I liking Rels more than Darth even more from their interactions with each other. Once VA, FF, and Breshke are around I can try to talk to them so I can get some better formed reads on their Cells(I got Breshke null leaning town but not by much, FF prob town, VA null). On February 25 2016 02:48 Rels wrote:On February 25 2016 02:22 darthfoley wrote:
It was quite clear that I was referring to the reads I talked about as the shitty ones. This is really dumb Obviously I didn't understand that. So now that I provides examples of va being aggressive, explained the ff read and explained why your townread on breshke is shit, why are they shitty ? everything before that in their filters is pre-FF town So? rels scum read breshke and town read VA prior to the 50/50 being used, the other 2 didn't have very many reads at all prior to the 50/50 being used. Right.
On February 26 2016 13:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Finally home.
I'm gonna spend the next hour or two doing filter dives into Cell C.
On February 26 2016 14:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Cell C is hard lol.
On February 26 2016 15:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Guess I'm alone here.
Ohwells.
I still don't think LS is mafia. Ritoky asked me about why I thought he was town early on but most of it boiled down to the shape of LS' posts - they just seemed to come from the guy that I played with so many times before and nothing seemed particularly wrong with them in terms of scumminess. I know I said something about him being followable but that's just filler nonsense for when I have trouble wording my reads.
(Plus, the bit where LS implied that Damdred was scummy because Damdred thought he seemed off was uber town - mafia just doesn't feel nor sound like that.)
I'm still deciding between DF and Rels. I was hoping to talk to someone else about it but apparently nobody is here. I'll see if I can't talk things over with someone I trust tomorrow on where we should go next.
So combining DF + me: a townlean on DF in your first read post, a "OK" to an argument as to why I could be town recently. NOTHING else.
So ... no. No more dodging. Give your reads on DF / me now OR read our filters again to make up your mind.
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On February 27 2016 00:21 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 09:08 ritoky wrote:On February 23 2016 09:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oh thank the dark gods I rolled town again.
I'll never complain about rolling town ever again what do you think of breshke so far? or anyone Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 09:14 Damdred wrote:
Personally breshke is a bit of a mixed bag.
Part of the problem is that his posts relay a little bit of conufsiom on the setup and part of me goes it would be easy for scum bresh to try to survive on that.
While another side of me thinks he would try to be a bit more strong here and not try to put the confused town forward.
So atm I'm thinking bottom of null . Page 7. Noticeable is that Damdred uses exclusively "what if breshke is mafia" reasoning. In the part of the problem line Damdy wagers that bresh WOULD try to play confused, in the bolded line he wagers exactly the opposite, and ends up at bottom of null, which is probably the safest read one can give out on a scum buddy early in the game. So this post is pretty fishy now that we know bresh was mafia.
I don't undestand the bold line. Damdred is saying that scum!Breshky wouldn't help town to properly understand the setup ?
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On February 27 2016 00:29 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 08:35 LightningStrike wrote:
I am home but only for a few minutes(my phone is dead that why I stopped posting when I did) and I will explain why I dislike Breshke's post.
The first part about not wanting to be the mayor is NAI but his last part about not wanting to be in the final cell seems pretty scummy at least in my eyes. Generally speaking I think it's best to have our strongest players in Cell 3/4 because if we manged to get 2 scums lynched by that point then we should be able to win easily(at least that what I thinking from reading some parts of the old cell games). Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 11:47 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey I just got home and read the thread: I kinda mad that people think my cell should go first since I know I am easily readable as the game progresses...... sicklucker's entrance seems bad because it just a very bad excuse........ I like kush right now and same with ritoky because of their questioning. Breshke after his entrance seems okay but Breshke is easier to find as scum after the first couple of day phases(I vigged him when he rolled scum vs me in NYE Party). EXPLAIN
Explain yourself. In the second quote he's saying he still dislikes Breshke' first post but his subsequent ones were better, so unless I didn't understand what you mean there is no contradiction ?
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With all this talk of "Vivax is lazy as scum" this points at Vivax being town even more. Rereading the game + being aggressive with his thoughts.
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On February 27 2016 01:00 Damdred wrote:
Sorry guys power was out for extended periods of time day before yesterday.
However I'm not going to be here for an extended period of time, I have my first real interview for a teaching position. It came out of the blue and I'm rushing around trying to get all my shit together. I should be back around 5 est with opinions.
Wish me luck this probably the break I needed in life!
good luck bro
Can you explain the bolded in your post ?
On February 27 2016 00:36 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2016 00:21 Vivax wrote:On February 23 2016 09:08 ritoky wrote:On February 23 2016 09:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oh thank the dark gods I rolled town again.
I'll never complain about rolling town ever again what do you think of breshke so far? or anyone On February 23 2016 09:14 Damdred wrote:
Personally breshke is a bit of a mixed bag.
Part of the problem is that his posts relay a little bit of conufsiom on the setup and part of me goes it would be easy for scum bresh to try to survive on that.
While another side of me thinks he would try to be a bit more strong here and not try to put the confused town forward.
So atm I'm thinking bottom of null . Page 7. Noticeable is that Damdred uses exclusively "what if breshke is mafia" reasoning. In the part of the problem line Damdy wagers that bresh WOULD try to play confused, in the bolded line he wagers exactly the opposite, and ends up at bottom of null, which is probably the safest read one can give out on a scum buddy early in the game. So this post is pretty fishy now that we know bresh was mafia. I don't undestand the bold line. Damdred is saying that scum!Breshky wouldn't help town to properly understand the setup ?
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On February 27 2016 01:13 Vivax wrote:
Starting to think LS is mafia with Damdy and they founded team babbyrage to get themselves TR.
I don't think so. There are multiple reasons DF is scum, and even if you don't think the rage is town indicative, LS is playing like he does as town when apparently he's way more timid as scum.
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On February 27 2016 01:59 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2016 01:20 Rels wrote:On February 27 2016 01:13 Vivax wrote:
Starting to think LS is mafia with Damdy and they founded team babbyrage to get themselves TR. I don't think so. There are multiple reasons DF is scum, and even if you don't think the rage is town indicative, LS is playing like he does as town when apparently he's way more timid as scum. What about the points on Damdy?
Maybe he's scum. I can see him faking emotion way more easily than LS. He's been super underwhelming past N0. His read on Breshke is super passive as you said, and even afterwards (maybe he's town for not wanting the 50/50 to be used immediately, then later "he's a policy lynch"). Now he has an excuse to be AFK.
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I would lynch OWS if I had to decide right now though.
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On February 27 2016 03:07 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2016 02:07 Rels wrote:On February 27 2016 01:59 Vivax wrote:On February 27 2016 01:20 Rels wrote:On February 27 2016 01:13 Vivax wrote:
Starting to think LS is mafia with Damdy and they founded team babbyrage to get themselves TR. I don't think so. There are multiple reasons DF is scum, and even if you don't think the rage is town indicative, LS is playing like he does as town when apparently he's way more timid as scum. What about the points on Damdy? Maybe he's scum. I can see him faking emotion way more easily than LS. He's been super underwhelming past N0. His read on Breshke is super passive as you said, and even afterwards (maybe he's town for not wanting the 50/50 to be used immediately, then later "he's a policy lynch"). Now he has an excuse to be AFK. To specifically talk about this. Even you said when I explained myself it wasn't that horrible but breahke did 0 things after that so I changed my stance with the lack of information and focused on something I had information on the next cell. As for the now has an excuse to be afk don't be a total moron and try to make nai things into alignment indicative things. Exactly why you are annoying to play with sometimes.
since your interview is right now, starting tonight or tomorrow you will be able to play properly right ?
Hope you nail it BTW
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lol DF nice try ^^ now die
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On February 27 2016 04:40 bumatlarge wrote:
Also feels like Rels knows LS is town because I'm not buying this "emotion" bullshit. Just being able to make that assumption without anything else feels like a cop out and he knows something we don't
Is this your only reason to be suspicious of me ?
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On February 27 2016 04:47 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2016 04:45 Rels wrote:On February 27 2016 04:40 bumatlarge wrote:
Also feels like Rels knows LS is town because I'm not buying this "emotion" bullshit. Just being able to make that assumption without anything else feels like a cop out and he knows something we don't Is this your only reason to be suspicious of me ? MAYBE its the only interaction I've had with you
In Nutcracker LS and I was town. I thought LS was scum:
Before changing this read when he became emotional:
On December 15 2015 18:03 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2015 09:48 LightningStrike wrote:On December 15 2015 08:44 Damdred wrote:
Ls why should I not vote you ^^. Will be home to read and bomb soon JESUS CHRIST I TOWN THIS GAME TOO THATS WHY. .....LIKE YOU JUST PLAYED WITH ME WHEN I HAD A TERRIBLE DAY 1. Anyways just got done with my last final and will read what I missed after that post. Fuck he's probably town ##Unvote
So now that you have no more reason to suspect any of us, read filters and make up your mind pretty please.
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