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Trfel
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On February 21 2016 01:00 GlowingBear wrote: GlowingBear, who should I vote for if not you, and why?I'd love to counter argue this, but it seems I'm Mafia for not getting angry and getting angry at the same time | ||
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Trfel
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GlowingBear (3): The Shining, nooniansoong, Trfel scott31337 (2): rsoultin, Breshke Tumblewood (1): The Shining (0): Not Voting (4): Shapelog, Tumblewood, scott31337, GlowingBear Currently, GlowingBear is set to be lynched with 3 votes. Voting ends at 16:00 EST today, in . | ||
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[not voting 5 hours to deadline next day] GlowingBear: How does everyone think that I'm scum? Just because I was posting MS Paint pictures doesn't mean I haven't been contributing! Look, I think these people are scum! [still not voting] I do prefer lynching GlowingBear over scott31337, because scott31337 can be hard to read and his play might just be a result of lack of activity. Maybe. Doubtful. But I'm far more confident in GlowingBear being mafia, because of how he isn't pushing anything and is very strongly playing to survive. | ||
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Trfel
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On February 21 2016 01:41 rsoultin wrote: ....... But, you're voting for scott31337 still?:/ you can't really think that gb is town here? | ||
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On February 21 2016 01:50 rsoultin wrote: I was just wondering.uh huh and i'm incapable of changing my vote truffle 10/10 You said that you wanted to lynch scott31337 for information, then here you are saying that GlowingBear is definitely mafia and pseudo-pushing him (IMO the level you were pushing him is subjective, for the purposes of this it doesn't matter). But you weren't voting for him. I guess it's not obviously alignment indicative, but it doesn't feel right. I'll worry about this later. Anyway, rsoultin, I have been lazy and I admit it. I only read about half of your filter, and not even very carefully. All I know is that GlowingBear is mafia  So after today I'll have time to figure out everything else.Also, I'm leaving semi soon-ish and not coming back until probably after the deadline  So, GlowingBear, if you'd like me to not vote for you, you need to do something very towny in the next 10 minutes or so. | ||
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GlowingBear was mislynched Day 1 in the above game. There, his filter feels much more useful; while he gave the same complaints about not knowing why he was being lynched and the lynch being stupid, he was also commenting and giving reads whenever he saw something to comment on. Here, it's seemed that GlowingBear's reads are purely by request instead of actually pushing things with force. However, he did vote for The Shining after The Shining counterclaimed him. And this feels weird from mafia. If GlowingBear is mafia, presumably he knows that The Shining is actually the vigilante once he claims (unless they're mafia together, and we aren't going there because then someone is being rather dumb). It's possible that GlowingBear would do this as mafia, but it doesn't feel so likely. Thoughts? | ||
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Trfel
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On February 21 2016 02:50 nooniansoong wrote: If something doesn't make sense from scum or town, it generally means that they messed up, regardless of alignment.Why would he vote shining as town?? He knows he's not the vig as town. And I feel that scum is more careful and less original, therefore they mess up less. But given GlowingBear's play as a whole, and this being one single thing, I think I still want to lynch GlowingBear. It kinda sucks because of the pre-game excuse, but meh | ||
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Trfel
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I think that GlowingBear's mafia winrate is like 90% or something. Don't see how we can win against that. Anyway, good job I'll read what actually happened later. | ||
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But whatever. I doubt I'll have time to do much with this game tonight, things are busy | ||
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So meh. I'll just accept rsoultin as town for now at least.Rsoultin, do you not agree with my townread of Tumblewood based on his play being dramatically different and the written stuff? Am I being incorrect in the strength I'm giving this read? | ||
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Trfel
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On February 22 2016 03:25 nooniansoong wrote: I didn't read the last ~5 pages of EoD yet, I might have missed something. But I do remember that in Outlaw mafia, GlowingBear's behavior as he was getting lynched strongly implicated his scum buddy Alakaslam, I feel that GlowingBear is the type of player to try and avoid doing the same things.Specifically how gb scumread her for changing her opinion then made a last ditch attempt to buddy her. It was more of how rsoultin was scumreading GlowingBear for very valid reasons, but then stopped because of GlowingBear's MSPaint pictures and voted for scott31337 for information. | ||
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Trfel
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And nooniansoong, I'm almost positive that rsoultin did reverse her read on GlowingBear primarily for his trolling (see post here, and the one after). | ||
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Trfel
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And he's actually been here the entire time, too, basically.... Just never actually did anything.But the things he has actually done aren't completely horrible? Mostly just because there's not much there to judge, but I kinda hate it. If scott31337 is town, he's ideal lynchbait But GlowingBear didn't push him....I just feel like he has to be scum, but I feel so uncomfortable voting for him.... Meh. | ||
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Trfel
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So for now I'm at Tictock, Tumblewood, and scott31337, two of which are scum? Cool, I guess? I hate POE but I can't see how it isn't scott here? | ||
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On February 22 2016 13:16 rsoultin wrote: The only reason I have at the moment to potentially scumread nooniansoong would be that his reads are too good for him to be town.given his d1 i wouldn't have said so, but i'll look back through all the filters tomorrow, too lol >< including yours! muahaha (just so i can be fairly certain of my townreads and make sure i'm not calling someone town too easily) noon is prob my least confident, but tbf he's also the one i'm least familiar with and that's why But I'm thinking that this is really really stupid. So, this aside, if he's scum, he's playing a really incredible game and at this point I think I'm more sure of him than Breshke, though Breshke is still probably town. Tictock, do you mind explaining why you felt that Palmar's filter was worse than scott's on Day 1? I'd characterize scott's filter as simply not really being present, and Palmar's filter more of trolling/minimal explanations for reads. To me, this makes Palmar's filter feel more useful (if you ignore the useless posts, I felt that Palmar still had more content). I'm assuming you disagree, or are you thinking about it differently, or what? | ||
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On February 22 2016 13:27 rsoultin wrote: No, nooniansoong is a terrible player who can never have his reads correct lol >< i've seen this thing about him lately in the games i've been hosting, but actually noon's been playing some pretty good games here latel...so yeah i wouldn't put too much weight on that well, i'll take another look at bresh...i'll be honest here and admit that though i noticed he was largely absent for at least the latter half of d2, i've kinda not been reading him too closely ever since i townread him earlier  I know, which is why I said it was a really stupid reason and I'm currently giving it exactly zero weight. The point I tried to convey was that I've played in most of the games with the "new style" nooniansoong and I that's the best reason I have to scumread him, and it's complete garbage. Plus he deserves a dig or two for last game (okay not really but I'll pretend) | ||
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On February 22 2016 13:31 rsoultin wrote: So when we lynch scott and Tictock and they're both mafia and Tumblewood is town, do you admit that my meta reads aren't completely terrible any more?lol i was pretty sure you were joking but it can sometimes be hard to tell with you >> | ||
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