EPTNew Smurf Mini Mafia
| Forum Index > TL Mafia |
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 10 2016 08:24 Wartrukk wrote: That's pretty scummy tbh I googled wartrukk. Apparently it's from Warhammer 40k. So that tells me you are probably a male, nerd from the US. I'm thinking Fecalfeast. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
keanuisgod has a funny handle and has already posted a relevant and funny image. So I guess keanuisgod is actually ritoky. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 10 2016 08:35 Wartrukk wrote: Fecalfeast has canada on his profile so you calling it 'the US' leads me to believe you're from europe. I'm thinking scum You are thinking I'm scum? Why's that? | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 10 2016 08:56 Wartrukk wrote: Town objective: Find scum Your objective: Find smurf identities I said my secondary objective was to find scum, didn't I? | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 10 2016 08:24 Wartrukk wrote: That's pretty scummy tbh Wartrukk thinks I'm scummy for some random stuff said in the joke phase. And he honestly believes it ("tbh"). Therefore, I scumread Wartrukk for fabricating a scumread on me. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 10 2016 10:40 Wartrukk wrote: So saying you're going to out smurfs, I say I think that's scummy (I still do) and after you go about trying to out smurfs you come back to my post and say "Joke phase lol" Yeah, I'm the one fabricating reads, right? So let me guess this straight... You think I'm scum, and my scumstrat is to go after smurfs. Not only that but I'm going to announce it to the thread. That's my scumstrat, huh? You can't possibly believe that. So you are lying. And I like to lynch all liars. So I voted you. Get lynched. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 10 2016 10:55 Wartrukk wrote: You're getting a lot out of 3 words and an acronym lol The real scumstrat, however, would be padding your filter with what basically boils down to setup discussion since people aren't allowed to confirmw hether you're correct on them. What is the town-favoured strat to outing smurfs, though? That's something I can't figure out, not like you can use meta without a seed of doubt since you can't ever confirm you're correct. How is smurf hunting setup speculation? Setup speculation is speculating about roles. Smurf hunting is done for fun. It is pure NAI. I didn't do it to meta someone. I never said anything about meta. You are misrepresenting me. I'm scum because I'm padding my filter, huh? And you're not? On February 10 2016 08:01 Wartrukk wrote: hullo On February 10 2016 08:20 Wartrukk wrote:  YUP you got so much content in those posts, right! So let me reiterate. You are scum for scumreading me for 100% NAI content. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 10 2016 10:57 keanuisgod wrote: Okay, the bubblegum is gone (srs), so let's get to it!  I can see trying to out smurfs as a "Palmar-like" plan. After all, meta analysis is a (useful) tool town uses pretty often, and to do that you need to know who you are talking to. For example, if you can figure out an inactive lurker is actually a vet, you'd likely change your stance on him, comparing to you not knowing who he is. These kind of plans aren't usually "scummy" nor "townie" (though there are some exceptions); they just are, specially in games with special characteristics that allow these kind of plans to emerge (like themed games) Though I guess it kind of fights against the fun of this kind of game (i.e nobody knowing each other at all throughout all game, allowing shenanigans to happen). Anyways, this seems like usual D1 shitfest OMGUSing, which is pretty neutral shit (i.e not scummy nor townie). WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN DOING..... Seriously ritoky, what is the motivation behind this post? You want to sound smart with your little lectures that DONT EVEN MAKE SENSE? (AFK vets...WAT??) You want to provide Wartrukk an out from my pressure? Maybe buddy him? Maybe protect your scumbud? What's your angle, pal? | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 10 2016 11:31 Wartrukk wrote: Ok, you're correct. I assumed there was some reason for you smurf hunting outside being silly. Explain how that's not padding your filter, then, please. Also, saying that I have useless posts in no way invalidates my argument that you're padding your filter. Was there a reason for you saying hi and posting an emoticon? No? Then why do you assume there was a reason for me smurf hunting? Why don't you tell me. Is there any reason for smurf hunting very early game that isn't padding my filter? | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 10 2016 11:40 saitamaofonepunch wrote: Filter padding? Do people seriously gauge townieness by filter length in this game anyway? Spammy people could easily be playing. I agree with wartrukk so strongly that I will take it a step further, fully aware of the hypocrisy: don't say stupid stuff. In part one of your post you say filter padding is irrelevant because you shouldn't judge people by filter length anyoway. In part two of your post you take a stand against filter padding. Explain to me how this is not contradictory nonsense fabricated to look town. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
unholyflare - koshi saitamaofonepunch - trfel keanuisgod - shapelog Wartrukk - ticktock | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 10 2016 19:47 unholyflare wrote: I don't understand how you or anyone can believe this. If, somehow, we know the identities of all/most of the people in the game, it would be easier to scumhunt. I think you're pretty suspicious for this as it suggests you have something to hide. Look, it's a fellow smurf hunter. What do you think of my recent smurf reads? Have you been able to incorporate meta into your alignment reads yet? | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
saitamaofonepunch - eden | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
77GoldRom On February 10 2016 21:10 77GoldROM wrote: who's to say any of you do? Well whatever I don't care. If you don't care, why did you even press the hit button? Does saitamaofonepunch's arrogance offend you? saitamaofonepunch On February 10 2016 12:32 saitamaofonepunch wrote: It's bad It's still NAI. It's just indicative that they are willing and able to be bad. Some things do in fact indicate, but they are based on motive- not action itself. Bad in what way? If your answer is "bad because it's NAI," then do you really expect the first posts of the game to be AI? keanuisgod On February 10 2016 12:01 keanuisgod wrote: Considering NNN's recent attempts at smurf-hunting it does seem like it won't produce many useful results, thus allowing scum to smurfhunt on their own in their QT, but confusing the heck out of town (and most likely NNN if he acts on said "smurf reads") Why would scum want to smurfhunt in their QT? On February 10 2016 13:56 keanuisgod wrote: Right now 5 players (including you) haven't made posts of significance. I feel like it wouldn't be a stretch for 1 or both scum to be in that group. Of the remaining three that were (somewhat) actively posting (NNN, Warty and saita), for now their conversations felt like regular D1 banter, though some things they did/said can be taken notice for later in the day (to see how they follow up with them). Being active right off the bat in D1 is a plus too, at least if that motivation/activity is followed up in the rest of the game (another thing to take notice of). And then there's me, a poor little townie trying to make a living in this new smurf world. Is this a preliminary townread of myself, Wart and Saita? If it is, why not just say that plainly? Wartrukk On February 10 2016 21:11 Wartrukk wrote: I'm checking the thread before I go to bed but one more time, we can't know the identities of anyone for sure it only creates wifom For some people we can be close to 100% sure of their identity. For instance, I am close to 100% sure that keanuisgod is shapelog. Even if you disagree, wouldn't the obvious identity of a smurf be helpful for some rough but effective metaing? ie if keanu aka shapelog has a huge filter, that doesn't necessarily point to him being town. On February 10 2016 11:50 Wartrukk wrote: I'm going to take a break I think I'm tunneled on the smurf hunting idea too hard. I'm not taking back what I said as I still think there is a clear mafia motivation for it but I can't articulate them properly it seems I didn't realize you were actually tunneled on me for smurf hunting. Exactly how sure were you that I was scum? Bhaal LoM On February 10 2016 13:47 Bhaal LoM wrote: Good now tell me who you think could be a child of mine(scum) and why? On February 10 2016 14:11 Bhaal LoM wrote: Fair enough Mortal but considering the fact this game is rather slow paced atm because no one is really posting and I more of a analytical God when it comes to finding my children(scum). When more mortals enter the thread/talk more I will try to find my children(scum). If this helps their name is Imoen and Sarevok. Why do you expect someone to have an answer to your 'who is scum' question when in the next quote you say it's impossible to put anything forward? GargamelxD On February 10 2016 12:26 GargamelxD wrote: cant really take any posts seriously so far, no analysis possible becouse it still seems like standard banter What needs to happen for you to start taking posts seriously? | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 10 2016 23:26 saitamaofonepunch wrote: Unfortunately, it smacks a bit townie. Also no I don't expect much alignment indication in the start of the game. Hence, so much stuff is NAI. So is it correct to assume you have the same read on both Wartruck and myself: bad players who are leaning townie? And your definition of omgus is what? And we are leaning town because of the omgusing itself or because we omgused in a townie way? | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 11 2016 00:28 saitamaofonepunch wrote: That assumption is not correct. You are players who have done a bad play that is more often town than scum in alignment indication. My definition of omgus is reading a player as scum simply because they read you as scum. Neither of you has progressed from null. Nothing you said here makes sense. That assumption is not correct. You are players who have done a bad play that is more often town than scum in alignment indication. If we have done something that more often comes from town, then that should lead to a town lean. On the spectrum of scum to town, we should be on the town side of null.My definition of omgus is reading a player as scum simply because they read you as scum. You are misrepresenting the reasons behind our suspicions. Wartrukk suspected me for smurf hunting. I suspected Wartrukk for being suspicious of smurf hunting. How did Wartrukk OMGUS at all?I can understand why you'd think I OMGUSed, but realize that if he was suspecting someone else for smurf hunting, my suspicion would have still been there. So the true reason behind that suspicion isn't OMGUS either. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
I find his confession that he's not certain in the read simply honest. Bhaal is gone all day, says he has to catch up, then has nothing to say about anything except when prompted by keanu. On February 11 2016 08:37 Bhaal LoM wrote: I am quite sad that no one is around when I am around  He wants someone to interact with him because he is having trouble generating his own content. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 11 2016 10:29 saitamaofonepunch wrote: In other words, due to your creating outs for yourself, you look like an opportunistic scum that just found the first low hanging fruit of the day. Do you think scum would be that overt about not being confident in his read. Especially a read like that which has been cased out? And what prevents town from being unsure of their day 1 read? | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
Yesterday that was mostly much ado about nothing. I was trying to accelerate the game out of the joke phase. Actually Wart's weakness about backing down on smurfhunting did catch my attention but it's not enough to scumread him for. I have to filter Wart again to really solidify where my read on him is at. But I like this wagon for now. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 11 2016 10:03 saitamaofonepunch wrote: Scummiest thing in the thread by far IMO. If you aren't confident in a read, vote elsewhere or don't vote. No one said you have to vote just because I am deciding I like to vote inactives. Which comes from scum more often than from town. Wooooooo, wifom konga baby Anyway so you think his points are good, but you don't like his uncertainty. Where does that leave you vis-a-vis bhaal? If keanu's points are good, then you should think bhaal is scummy, right? | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
And 77gold? You didn't check his filter either? Doesn't this quote from you imply that you compared all of the lurkers, garg(lurker that point in time), 77goldrom, and unholy? Like if any of the lurkers are scum prob is Gargame | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 11 2016 22:40 Bhaal LoM wrote: I did check gold's filter and I thought his content was meh. Are you going to do stuff on your own, or do you want to be directed with questions? | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 11 2016 22:49 Bhaal LoM wrote: I more a person who needs direction I will be honest with that :\ Do you still want to lynch gargamel after his recent activity? Who do you want to lynch and why? | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 11 2016 22:59 Bhaal LoM wrote: garg stuff from last night made him look better in my opinion. I don't want to lynch him atm unless something major comes up. On who to lynch: I don't know man to many lurkers >.< I normally hunt better when we got a lot of content(I was always a good late game player). So why not join garg in voting 77goldrom? At the very least it would get rid of a lurker. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
I don't think he's LS because he said the last time he played with 2013. Why would LS lie about that, especially after potentially outing himself with the smurf slip up? I agree with Vald that saitama is not quite making sense with how he's approaching the game. His vote on bhaal after saying the case against him was scummy doesn't look very natural. Also, he's being very lecturey which leans scum. But due to how active and vocal he's being, I think that he's probably a good lynch today. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 12 2016 06:20 Wartrukk wrote: Why did halo lamb get a free pass? Halo lamb types a lot like LS, to contradict my early game and smurfhunt hmm. There was a point in the game where LS posted by mistake and edited out his post. So one player in this game is LS. And due to the timing, it looks like it could be bhaal, saitama, or keanu. But why would LS lie about not having played since 2013 and being a newb? The motivations behind that are surely scummy. I don't expect scum to make such a big lie after they smurfslip in the thread. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 12 2016 06:41 saitamaofonepunch wrote: Bhaal has seemed noob town, and I agree with this with one exception: Scum can totally keep their cool. As it's leader, I am totally comfortable with the goldrom wagon. As whats leader? | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 12 2016 08:32 LightningStrike wrote: modkill as promised? lol | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 12 2016 15:33 keanuisgod wrote: I could see saitama being scum only because he says so in his sig: "I am a mafia smurf" Sigs don't lie ... Lol. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 12 2016 10:03 keanuisgod wrote: It's really nice to come back to activity 1-2 hours before the lynch and shout how the "wagon looks like trash" isn't it? It's also really nice to vote right at the last moment to someone who is OBVIOUSLY not getting lynched and making no effort to try to get him lynched It also isn't suspicious at all to vote someone completely unrelated to the lynch and wait until the last second (when you KNOW your vote doesn't count and thus you can't be held accountable for anything) by just saying "I have real reasons but am still busy" Anyways, we know Bhaal is town now, so please explain your read on him. These are your only posts about him Why exactly was he in your "leanscum" pile? What does the "lying LS" thing have to do with anything? Did you even pay attention to my case on him and the later change of heart of many people in the thread about him? When wartrukk came into the thread, the 77goldrom lynch was inevitable. Why does it matter who he voted? Who he voted was obv not getting lynched, but 77 was just as obv getting lynched. So youre pushing him on something he couldn't control. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 12 2016 21:57 keanuisgod wrote: From what I remember Wartruk was posting and stuff when I left, and I think before saitama and Bhaal have made their votes (thus it'd be 4 votes on Gold by then). Either way, him making sporadic posts here and there but not following up what town is doing (like ... lynching someone, and having a previous wagon on Bhaal too) is scummy to me. Wasting your vote, depending on the situation is scummy too ... and I believe this is one of those situations. So you are calling him scummy for not pushing his lynch harder. That's all I see in this argument. Because at the point in time when he said 'this wagon sucks" and threw his vote away, there was nothing he could do. It's not fair to criticize him for his actions at that point. How could he have NOT wasted his vote?? His scumreads look fine to me. Bhaal was straight up lying about his real identity. He was acting like a newb who hadn't played since 2013. He was pretty clearly LS who is not a newb and has played many games since 2013. I see a lot of scum motivation behind pretending you're a newb when you're not. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/500060-newbie-student-mafia-xviii?user=NocturneMage | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
He is tunneled on saitama but it never goes anwywhere. If he has a scumread, why not push that lynch? He never communicated why he doesn't want to push a saitama lynch. Actually what he's doing looks like high level nitpicking. He is pointing little stuff wrong with what saitama is saying, but never actually connecting it to saitama being scum.. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 13 2016 03:07 keanuisgod wrote: Ehmm, yeah, can't really answer that. why not | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On December 30 2015 10:26 NocturneMage wrote: Can you explain this post when you can? You are saying that you agreed with the read on GigyaS, and thus you scumread him (????) but then you are making a like to like comparison to Shapelog who you are townreading? Can you explain if this affects your townread on Shapelog or whether it should because I don't otherwise understand what you are getting at here? On January 05 2016 04:02 NocturneMage wrote: FF, I had to read his list post several times to understand and I'm not sure I understand your analysis of your last post. the way I read that day 1 was him trying to look at it f<script id="gpt-impl-0.4290662574845557" src="http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_79.js"></script>rom two different perspectives particularly on the Irish read: (1) you have a new player not familiar with scott or TL for that matter scumreading scott under his own set of criteria and then (2) you have Fidei who knows Scott and uses his own knowledge of Scott (see null list) to read him. Furthermore Fidei uses other criteria to townread Irish. The question should be, what read/approach should make sense for Irish given his background and knowledge of the players and I can't see how Fidei's prior knowledge of Scott causing the difference in reads is a problem. Basically I'm trying to understand what wording in that range of reads is reading as "paranoid" or even trying to appease someone. The Cow interpretation - I am assuming the "weak read" comes from the ordering of the reads, so I had to read the Shapelog post again, to see if that justified a "stronger' townread from his worldview. Having gotten coached as town before I've been told that list posts don't go over well with people so I'm not sure if Fidei has an inherent bias towards that, but I could argue at least between the Shapelog and the Cow posts, the Cow should have been ranked above Shapelog, since it appears that Shapelog read is based on tone, but this is also an area of extreme subjectivity for me, I know some people on this site really rely on tone reads and especially for day 1. You might need to break it down to me line by line. Fidei could be mafia, don't get me wrong, but it wouldn't be for this. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
This is kind of a dumbtell. It shows an unscumlike state of mind to mix people up. I think scum is more likely to pay attention to who scumreads them. It meshes with his idgaf attitude. + Show Spoiler + On February 12 2016 15:20 Wartrukk wrote: wait what I thought saitama posted the other thing oh well On February 12 2016 15:20 Wartrukk wrote: yeah it was you, saitama is the probe Here he comes in the thread pre EoD and shits on the lynch. This is kind of a weird, tooscummytobescum point, but I don't think scum would come out against the lynch like this. They would be afraid it would look like tmi when he flipped town. + Show Spoiler + On February 12 2016 07:39 Wartrukk wrote: Wow this wagon looks like trash On February 12 2016 07:41 Wartrukk wrote: Scumtama and lying LS on the same wagon on a lurker. Wowie | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 13 2016 04:25 keanuisgod wrote: Now that you are here, what about Gargy? I get the feeling he's too confrontational and "in-your-face" to be scum, but based on PoE he's up there, at least considering the facts (the vote on a lurker without many other contributions regarding scum, etc) Yes. It is suspicious how he showed up right after bhaal mentioned him, deflected onto 77, then fucked off. But I don't see him as especially scummy actually. He had solid points against 77. Awkward opening, bad vt claim, late to the party, etc. Plus you can't really fault someone for a lurker lynch.. It's a very weak read. Hopefully garg gives us more content to judge him off of. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 13 2016 04:27 saitamaofonepunch wrote: Lol kush who am I? You are cocky as hell so I'm gonna say SL. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 13 2016 05:42 keanuisgod wrote: If you are town better not get modkilled Valdi once per day/night cycle, not once per day and once per night. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 13 2016 05:48 Iwasrobik wrote: So we're in MYLO if there is no save during the game. Will read the thread now this is gonna be good | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 13 2016 06:26 keanuisgod wrote: Pfff do like me and sneak in here while in work every 10 minutes lol or do like me and pretend you are working but you are actually spamming refresh in the thread | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 13 2016 06:31 saitamaofonepunch wrote: Sicklucker? But does my logic look anything like his? either that or boxerfred? | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 13 2016 06:15 Wartrukk wrote: I can't believe every time i get town I get swamped witg work stuff. Have you figured out valdi's identity, NNN, or is there a case on him that i skipped? Who is iwasrobik is that another replace? did youread what i wrote even... my entire case is pretty much assuming he's nocturnemage. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
implicate is too strong of a word. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 13 2016 08:24 Wartrukk wrote: Reading the thread is for nerds Are you really going to do this to us in mylo? | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 13 2016 08:31 Iwasrobik wrote: Seemed obvious to me, you were the obvious prot and saitama was also very likely town. Right prot too, I would have raged if you died. ya i forgot about the medic lol | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 13 2016 09:49 Iwasrobik wrote: I LOST MY POST EXPLAINING WHY AND I FUCKING HAVE TO RETYPE IT AND I HAVE TO GO SOON i dont need a wot | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
Wartrukks incompatibility: um between those two posts both those players died. You think he should have scum reads on flipped townies? | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
Right now I'm thinking scum is valdi plus garg or wartrukk. Those reads are kinda uninformed though | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
Shape did play an amazing scum game last game btw. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
His last scumgame was so good, so that destroys any confidence I have in my ability to read him. The stubbornness in his robik read is scaring me. His last case on robik lightly townreading two people looks like he's reaching. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:06 keanuisgod wrote: Warty and Garga are acting so stupidly this MYLO that it wouldn't surprise me both being scum bussing each other for shit and giggles to be honest I think that is unlikely because scum really doesn't want to bus in this scenario. Especially when it's very possible that either of them could be lynched. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:50 GargamelxD wrote: This is a super odd post. Im voting my scumread, whom you suspect as well and that makes this post really scummy. There's no reason for you to believe that either me or warty are doing something stupid unless you are confident we're both town, seems like tmi, on me at least. I actually had the same exact thought as keanu when I saw the vote count. I thought about it more and thought "nah." But it was an intesnse mindmelding with keanu. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
Garg -pulls smurfreads out of his ass and uses them as reads. It's a way for him to have reads without having to explain them. On February 11 2016 15:57 GargamelxD wrote: he could be SL maybe, either that or ls either way i think goldrom is VA and i want to kill him with fire ##Vote 77Goldrom it's true he later told us reasons behind wanting to kill 77goldrom, but those reasons were all superficial and easy for scum to think of. On February 13 2016 23:07 GargamelxD wrote: the nk does implicate wartrukk, saitama wasnt really the shining beacon of townieness to warrant being NKd, so i suppose it was cause of his reads.. valdiano is hts and town imo. -incompatibility point on wartrukk makes no sense On February 13 2016 23:10 GargamelxD wrote: incompatibility detected It's not an incompatibility because between the posts, both the read flipped. When I ask him to explain I think he just changes the subject. I can't how what he says is relevant. On February 14 2016 00:13 GargamelxD wrote: he also said the rom wagon looked like shit, was that after his flip`? | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
Um there are things in both garg and wartrukk's filter that makes me think they're town. I'm left with is the possibility that robik is full tryhard scum. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 15 2016 04:05 GargamelxD wrote: So all the shit you said about warty was a complete lie since in your opinion voting him isn't reasonable even though he has a good shot at being mafia and you should think that too. I'm trying to figure out if this point and his one good point about warty are enough to townread him.. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 15 2016 04:51 GargamelxD wrote: Get your facts straight what the fuck. And that makes my argument strong again still don't get it. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 15 2016 05:45 keanuisgod wrote: What had you convinced robik was town (before) again? just the fact that he came in here really try hard. I kind of skimmed his case when I first read it and it looked ok at the time. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
He's reading posts and nitpicking on inconsistencies and stuff. But there's no connection to actual scum hunting there. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
But garg has been here looking townie enough so I changed to valdi, robik. Basically I've been looking at war, garg, robik for the last scum, and I've only just made up my mind Anyway, the whole scumteam doesn't matter right now. We need to come up with who we are going to lynch and valdi needs to go. Also we need consolidation. If robik is scum, he can and will last minute switch onto another wagon. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
Not being here d2 doesn't help but its not why I'm scumreading him | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 15 2016 07:00 Iwasrobik wrote: I thought he replaced at the middle of D1 ? A but earlier than that I think | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 15 2016 06:48 Iwasrobik wrote: No way my partner would be the person I agressively push as soon as I enter the thread. Although this is meta so I can't prove it. You aggressively pushed Keanu not really valdi | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
Warty Gargamel / Robik Keanu | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 15 2016 08:29 keanuisgod wrote: I think you got that upside down You were really against lynching valdi, and I'm not sure why. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 15 2016 08:30 GargamelxD wrote: retracting my scumread on keanu Im curious why. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 15 2016 08:32 keanuisgod wrote: Because it was a "lurker lynch" on someone who hasn't posted in 50 hours The case against him had nothing to do with the fact that he was a lurker d2. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 15 2016 08:31 GargamelxD wrote: I just spent the entire end of the day ranting about how I felt it was exactly not the case I don't know what you are trying to say here. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 15 2016 08:35 keanuisgod wrote: IMO it was weaker because of it. I already mentioned how Valdi "not scumhunting" wasn't that much of an indicator when few people were actually scumhunting at that point He was active and not scumhunting, which makes him scummier than people who were inactive and not scumhunting. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 15 2016 13:12 keanuisgod wrote: Perhaps, but not enough for me to be sure he was scum. I don't think it's fair for you to base your possible scumread on me on this kind of meta and smurfhunting. OK, you weren't sure he was scum. You were more sure of Warty being scum? And why isn't it fair? It's not fair for you as scum you mean? | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 15 2016 13:23 keanuisgod wrote: It's not fair as town for you to read me as scum based on smurfhunting and meta in the way you posted. I thought you took the previous hint I mentioned to robik at some point wanna quote it? or help me find it in some way? | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
I really don't know who you could be? Someone who spams a lot... umm fuck your Disinformation? probably? Godammit. Smurf games are so anti town. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 15 2016 13:36 keanuisgod wrote: I suggest you don't even try figuring it out. For you see, I'm a newbie that hasn't played games since 2013 ... It's weird for you to say that. Because your case on Warty seems to center on your own vast experience with scum behavior. On February 15 2016 13:16 keanuisgod wrote: Like, being heavily active on (early) D1 but declining activity and "care" for the game as it goes on is something I've only seen scum do, and "ragequitting" townies do. Warty definitely doesn't fall in the 2nd category. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
I get it now because that's the lie LS told. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
Keanu, to me it looks like your reason for suspecting Warty is the same reason you refused to suspect Valdi. In fact, you admit using the same metric: If we also go by the "being active and not scumhunting" metric, he's #1 in that aspect Your reason paraphrased: Warty started out with lots of activity and it diminished as the game continued.My defense of Warty: The only time when Warty can be considered active is very early game, in his back and forth with me. Early game activity is a an entirely different beast than later activity. Early game activity is based on in the moment interactions, when later activity is based on reading the thread and filters. Early game activity is talking. Later activity is reading. So it makes sense to me that Warty can't be bothered to read the thread closely, but he has no problem having an early game shit fest with me. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 15 2016 07:42 Wartrukk wrote: Very few posts to read, MYLO on day 2, feels like a shittily balanced game but I don't know what the standard for small games is He lists there being very few posts as something that leads to him not caring about the game. But for someone who can't be arsed, aren't small filters much better than long filters? | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
I'm getting more and more sure of Warty being scum. I realized the reasons why I was townreading him weren't good. I'll be content to lynch him tomorrow. | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
Where'd you answer that? | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
usually people complain when filters are too long. It takes a lot of time to read them. You are saying you are having trouble caring because filters are too short. Don't short filters make the game easier to follow than long filters? | ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
| ||
|
nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 22 2016 10:59 gonzaw wrote: I'll try joining small games for now. I'm deep into my uni thesis, but hopefully in 1-2 months (at most) it gets wrapped up and I can then join the big leagues (I want to play at least 1 Greymist game by then!). Also, in this game I used my "Mafia spreadsheet", and after almost 2 years I was surprised to find out it still works LOL (had to make a few tweeks for it to work with some of the latest Google updates though) Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14wW6tzHGC62s1kfiy7DcbNT8e324ICgORi0MvqOGobk/edit?usp=sharing Mafia game creator: https://script.google.com/macros/s/AKfycby3CS5G2-CBqOWYpjluDn1b0qTrJiMUSw7CosjlZjaIsbCmKHo1/exec Use the 2nd link to start a game and it'll create the spreadsheet in your home folder in GDrive. Then just follow the guide there and use the "Game Management" menu to manage the game (when phases end, when people get modkilled, etc). At times the menu doesn't show up (dunno why), but then you can just do everything manually, it's not that hard (just duplicate the sheets and remove players and the like). dude you are still working on your thesis... | ||
| ||
![[image loading]](https://nerdinthecity.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/wpid-screenshot_2013-07-17-04-16-26-1.png)
![[image loading]](http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/smurfsfanon/images/8/88/Panicky_Smurf_Glovey_Story.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/200?cb=20130729184250)
