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nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 08 2016 14:22 GMT
#30
/in
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 09 2016 10:47 GMT
#43
Lol smurfing is hard.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 09 2016 23:24 GMT
#50
I will be smurf hunting primarily and scum hunting secondarily.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 09 2016 23:31 GMT
#53
On February 10 2016 08:24 Wartrukk wrote:
That's pretty scummy tbh


I googled wartrukk. Apparently it's from Warhammer 40k. So that tells me you are probably a male, nerd from the US. I'm thinking Fecalfeast.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 09 2016 23:35 GMT
#55
I thought about it more. More likely you are Ticktock.

keanuisgod has a funny handle and has already posted a relevant and funny image. So I guess keanuisgod is actually ritoky.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 09 2016 23:41 GMT
#56
On February 10 2016 08:35 Wartrukk wrote:
Fecalfeast has canada on his profile so you calling it 'the US' leads me to believe you're from europe.

I'm thinking scum


You are thinking I'm scum? Why's that?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 10 2016 01:29 GMT
#66
One of you is definitely fecalfeast.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 10 2016 01:30 GMT
#68
On February 10 2016 08:56 Wartrukk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 08:41 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On February 10 2016 08:35 Wartrukk wrote:
Fecalfeast has canada on his profile so you calling it 'the US' leads me to believe you're from europe.

I'm thinking scum


You are thinking I'm scum? Why's that?

Town objective: Find scum

Your objective: Find smurf identities


I said my secondary objective was to find scum, didn't I?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 10 2016 01:36 GMT
#70
On February 10 2016 08:24 Wartrukk wrote:
That's pretty scummy tbh


Wartrukk thinks I'm scummy for some random stuff said in the joke phase. And he honestly believes it ("tbh").
Therefore, I scumread Wartrukk for fabricating a scumread on me.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 10 2016 01:44 GMT
#73
On February 10 2016 10:40 Wartrukk wrote:
So saying you're going to out smurfs, I say I think that's scummy (I still do) and after you go about trying to out smurfs you come back to my post and say "Joke phase lol"

Yeah, I'm the one fabricating reads, right?


So let me guess this straight... You think I'm scum, and my scumstrat is to go after smurfs. Not only that but I'm going to announce it to the thread. That's my scumstrat, huh?

You can't possibly believe that. So you are lying. And I like to lynch all liars. So I voted you. Get lynched.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 10 2016 02:25 GMT
#79
On February 10 2016 10:55 Wartrukk wrote:
You're getting a lot out of 3 words and an acronym lol

The real scumstrat, however, would be padding your filter with what basically boils down to setup discussion since people aren't allowed to confirmw hether you're correct on them.

What is the town-favoured strat to outing smurfs, though? That's something I can't figure out, not like you can use meta without a seed of doubt since you can't ever confirm you're correct.


How is smurf hunting setup speculation? Setup speculation is speculating about roles.
Smurf hunting is done for fun. It is pure NAI. I didn't do it to meta someone. I never said anything about meta. You are misrepresenting me.

I'm scum because I'm padding my filter, huh? And you're not?
On February 10 2016 08:01 Wartrukk wrote:
hullo

On February 10 2016 08:20 Wartrukk wrote:

YUP you got so much content in those posts, right!

So let me reiterate. You are scum for scumreading me for 100% NAI content.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 10 2016 02:30 GMT
#80
On February 10 2016 10:57 keanuisgod wrote:
Okay, the bubblegum is gone (srs), so let's get to it!

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On February 10 2016 10:40 Wartrukk wrote:
So saying you're going to out smurfs, I say I think that's scummy (I still do) and after you go about trying to out smurfs you come back to my post and say "Joke phase lol"

Yeah, I'm the one fabricating reads, right?


I can see trying to out smurfs as a "Palmar-like" plan. After all, meta analysis is a (useful) tool town uses pretty often, and to do that you need to know who you are talking to. For example, if you can figure out an inactive lurker is actually a vet, you'd likely change your stance on him, comparing to you not knowing who he is.
These kind of plans aren't usually "scummy" nor "townie" (though there are some exceptions); they just are, specially in games with special characteristics that allow these kind of plans to emerge (like themed games)

Though I guess it kind of fights against the fun of this kind of game (i.e nobody knowing each other at all throughout all game, allowing shenanigans to happen).

Anyways, this seems like usual D1 shitfest OMGUSing, which is pretty neutral shit (i.e not scummy nor townie).


WHAT
THE
FUCK
ARE YOU EVEN DOING.....
Seriously ritoky, what is the motivation behind this post?
You want to sound smart with your little lectures that DONT EVEN MAKE SENSE? (AFK vets...WAT??)
You want to provide Wartrukk an out from my pressure? Maybe buddy him? Maybe protect your scumbud? What's your angle, pal?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 10 2016 02:36 GMT
#83
On February 10 2016 11:31 Wartrukk wrote:
Ok, you're correct. I assumed there was some reason for you smurf hunting outside being silly. Explain how that's not padding your filter, then, please.


Also, saying that I have useless posts in no way invalidates my argument that you're padding your filter.


Was there a reason for you saying hi and posting an emoticon?
No?
Then why do you assume there was a reason for me smurf hunting?

Why don't you tell me. Is there any reason for smurf hunting very early game that isn't padding my filter?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 10 2016 02:42 GMT
#88
On February 10 2016 11:40 saitamaofonepunch wrote:
Filter padding?

Do people seriously gauge townieness by filter length in this game anyway? Spammy people could easily be playing.

I agree with wartrukk so strongly that I will take it a step further, fully aware of the hypocrisy: don't say stupid stuff.


In part one of your post you say filter padding is irrelevant because you shouldn't judge people by filter length anyoway.

In part two of your post you take a stand against filter padding. Explain to me how this is not contradictory nonsense fabricated to look town.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 10 2016 13:12 GMT
#117
I've updated some of my smurf reads:
unholyflare - koshi
saitamaofonepunch - trfel
keanuisgod - shapelog
Wartrukk - ticktock
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 10 2016 13:14 GMT
#118
On February 10 2016 19:47 unholyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 10:40 Wartrukk wrote:
So saying you're going to out smurfs, I say I think that's scummy (I still do) and after you go about trying to out smurfs you come back to my post and say "Joke phase lol"

Yeah, I'm the one fabricating reads, right?

I don't understand how you or anyone can believe this. If, somehow, we know the identities of all/most of the people in the game, it would be easier to scumhunt. I think you're pretty suspicious for this as it suggests you have something to hide.


Look, it's a fellow smurf hunter.
What do you think of my recent smurf reads? Have you been able to incorporate meta into your alignment reads yet?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 10 2016 13:21 GMT
#120
I'm sorry I have one more correction to make.
saitamaofonepunch - eden
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 10 2016 13:51 GMT
#121
QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE ELSE


77GoldRom
On February 10 2016 21:10 77GoldROM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 17:41 saitamaofonepunch wrote:
On February 10 2016 16:34 77GoldROM wrote:
Late to the party. Hello all. I am Vanilla Town, how do you do? What's going on so far this game?

Everyone is acting like they don't know how to play mafia


who's to say any of you do? Well whatever I don't care.

If you don't care, why did you even press the hit button? Does saitamaofonepunch's arrogance offend you?


saitamaofonepunch
On February 10 2016 12:32 saitamaofonepunch wrote:
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On February 10 2016 12:18 keanuisgod wrote:
@saitama: What do you think of this OMGUSing stuff from NNN and Wartokk? And their behaviors so far (regarding that)?

It's bad

It's still NAI. It's just indicative that they are willing and able to be bad.

Some things do in fact indicate, but they are based on motive- not action itself.

Bad in what way?
If your answer is "bad because it's NAI," then do you really expect the first posts of the game to be AI?


keanuisgod
On February 10 2016 12:01 keanuisgod wrote:
Considering NNN's recent attempts at smurf-hunting it does seem like it won't produce many useful results, thus allowing scum to smurfhunt on their own in their QT, but confusing the heck out of town (and most likely NNN if he acts on said "smurf reads")

Why would scum want to smurfhunt in their QT?

On February 10 2016 13:56 keanuisgod wrote:
Right now 5 players (including you) haven't made posts of significance. I feel like it wouldn't be a stretch for 1 or both scum to be in that group.
Of the remaining three that were (somewhat) actively posting (NNN, Warty and saita), for now their conversations felt like regular D1 banter, though some things they did/said can be taken notice for later in the day (to see how they follow up with them). Being active right off the bat in D1 is a plus too, at least if that motivation/activity is followed up in the rest of the game (another thing to take notice of).

And then there's me, a poor little townie trying to make a living in this new smurf world.

Is this a preliminary townread of myself, Wart and Saita? If it is, why not just say that plainly?


Wartrukk
On February 10 2016 21:11 Wartrukk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 19:47 unholyflare wrote:
On February 10 2016 10:40 Wartrukk wrote:
So saying you're going to out smurfs, I say I think that's scummy (I still do) and after you go about trying to out smurfs you come back to my post and say "Joke phase lol"

Yeah, I'm the one fabricating reads, right?

I don't understand how you or anyone can believe this. If, somehow, we know the identities of all/most of the people in the game, it would be easier to scumhunt. I think you're pretty suspicious for this as it suggests you have something to hide.

I'm checking the thread before I go to bed but one more time, we can't know the identities of anyone for sure it only creates wifom

For some people we can be close to 100% sure of their identity. For instance, I am close to 100% sure that keanuisgod is shapelog.
Even if you disagree, wouldn't the obvious identity of a smurf be helpful for some rough but effective metaing? ie if keanu aka shapelog has a huge filter, that doesn't necessarily point to him being town.

On February 10 2016 11:50 Wartrukk wrote:
I'm going to take a break I think I'm tunneled on the smurf hunting idea too hard. I'm not taking back what I said as I still think there is a clear mafia motivation for it but I can't articulate them properly it seems

I didn't realize you were actually tunneled on me for smurf hunting. Exactly how sure were you that I was scum?


Bhaal LoM
On February 10 2016 13:47 Bhaal LoM wrote:
Good now tell me who you think could be a child of mine(scum) and why?

On February 10 2016 14:11 Bhaal LoM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 13:56 keanuisgod wrote:
Right now 5 players (including you) haven't made posts of significance. I feel like it wouldn't be a stretch for 1 or both scum to be in that group.
Of the remaining three that were (somewhat) actively posting (NNN, Warty and saita), for now their conversations felt like regular D1 banter, though some things they did/said can be taken notice for later in the day (to see how they follow up with them). Being active right off the bat in D1 is a plus too, at least if that motivation/activity is followed up in the rest of the game (another thing to take notice of).

And then there's me, a poor little townie trying to make a living in this new smurf world.

Fair enough Mortal but considering the fact this game is rather slow paced atm because no one is really posting and I more of a analytical God when it comes to finding my children(scum). When more mortals enter the thread/talk more I will try to find my children(scum). If this helps their name is Imoen and Sarevok.

Why do you expect someone to have an answer to your 'who is scum' question when in the next quote you say it's impossible to put anything forward?


GargamelxD
On February 10 2016 12:26 GargamelxD wrote:
cant really take any posts seriously so far, no analysis possible becouse it still seems like standard banter

What needs to happen for you to start taking posts seriously?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 10 2016 15:00 GMT
#127
On February 10 2016 23:26 saitamaofonepunch wrote:
Unfortunately, it smacks a bit townie.

Also no I don't expect much alignment indication in the start of the game. Hence, so much stuff is NAI.



So is it correct to assume you have the same read on both Wartruck and myself: bad players who are leaning townie?

And your definition of omgus is what? And we are leaning town because of the omgusing itself or because we omgused in a townie way?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 10 2016 15:59 GMT
#130
On February 11 2016 00:28 saitamaofonepunch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2016 00:00 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On February 10 2016 23:26 saitamaofonepunch wrote:
Unfortunately, it smacks a bit townie.

Also no I don't expect much alignment indication in the start of the game. Hence, so much stuff is NAI.



So is it correct to assume you have the same read on both Wartruck and myself: bad players who are leaning townie?

And your definition of omgus is what? And we are leaning town because of the omgusing itself or because we omgused in a townie way?

That assumption is not correct. You are players who have done a bad play that is more often town than scum in alignment indication.

My definition of omgus is reading a player as scum simply because they read you as scum.

Neither of you has progressed from null.


Nothing you said here makes sense.
That assumption is not correct. You are players who have done a bad play that is more often town than scum in alignment indication.
If we have done something that more often comes from town, then that should lead to a town lean. On the spectrum of scum to town, we should be on the town side of null.

My definition of omgus is reading a player as scum simply because they read you as scum.
You are misrepresenting the reasons behind our suspicions. Wartrukk suspected me for smurf hunting. I suspected Wartrukk for being suspicious of smurf hunting. How did Wartrukk OMGUS at all?
I can understand why you'd think I OMGUSed, but realize that if he was suspecting someone else for smurf hunting, my suspicion would have still been there. So the true reason behind that suspicion isn't OMGUS either.
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