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On December 12 2015 11:56 Damdred wrote: Kinda want to lynch everyone who hasn't posted now... But id lynch rels first In a weird way this posy looks really really townie as it's... "Unclean"... Like i get where Damdred is coming from but if you really look at this post all it says is " greymist and dp are town in my opinion". Eell idk if he inclydes marv in the people whi have posted but i think he doesn't. Basically i would not think Damdred would word his thoughts like this if he was mafia since this wording is more likely to make enemies than saying "greymist and dp are town". | ||
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On December 12 2015 13:52 RtaniSoul wrote: *sanctioned message by both heads We are seeking a third head. Please apply. Unless your name is DP and your nose is firmly up everyone's ass already. Carry on ^^ That's how he posts. | ||
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On December 12 2015 15:03 RtaniSoul wrote: Game? I've been mislynched once on this site, in large part because I failed to convince geript that DP was a skeezy scumbucket with a geript in his pocket. Artie remembers Imperial and remembers a more aggressive DP. I glanced through the town game before that just in case replacing in might have had an effect on DP's play, but no dice. Aggressive there right out the starting gate. These are only a few games, but given they support the perception we already have... Where you getting this from, rayn? -waves at DP- Because pointing out that you're buddying people is definitely not worth mentioning or anything ^^ We up for a round two? This is the last game i remember playing with DarthPunk when we were both town. This is his filter in the game. Basically i know DP is usually aggressive and i can see where you are coming from. Obviously it's nor out of the realm of possibilities he is mafia here, but i disagree in him not being "aggressive enough" makes him mafia. He treats different people differently, and i know for a fact he buddies to strong players (if you read the filter the "proof" is there). Basically this game is filled with people who in my opinion do not respond well -- or at all -- to pressure, at least unfounded pressure (i mean situations where the game has went on for hours and there is not really anything scummy in thread -- disagree?). At the time you called him out, what in your opinion should he have done as town? Should he have questioned something? Should he have pressured something more? In my opinion, when i read the thread at that point, i didn't see anything wrong -- which is i, myself decided to comment on the only read i could be even semi-sure of. Also bringing up Imperial is in my opinion a bit of a misjudgement (or what the fuck is the word). He replaced into a game on N3...... Of course there is going to be some reads he has rofl. If he hadn't any reads on a thread that is @ N3, he could just quit mafia. Comparing that game to this one (at 6 hours into the game with only 3 people properly even posting) is quite a stretch. | ||
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On December 12 2015 15:18 Damdred wrote: Eh screw it I'm awake so I'll post. Rs/Art go after Darth in what amounts to there opening post and follow up post. While I don't think its out of the scope of what they could do as scum going after dp so fast is something I don't really consider either of them to do. It seems to me its more motivated at this instance coming from town trying to catch someone on a meta irregularity that they feel. It isn't quite the gorcha moment to total town read but it makes sense and fives me somewhat town feelings motive wise. yes, this makes sense to me aswell. I think your read on Greymist is not really based on good reasoning Damdred. I believe in this game there are zero players who can be considered either alignment based on the tone of the posts, as we are all experienced enough to fake it. I think it's as possible that Greymist started the game joking with you as scum than it is that he did it as town. | ||
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There are a couple of things: 1) Your read on Greymist. I actually find it one of the weirdest things in this game that he does not have any sort of read on me. Before your posts two of the three people posting in this game besides him and me have stated they have a townread on me. What i would think Greymist would do is to either agree with the read, or disagree with the read (let it be null/scum for him then). Instead he doesn't do any of this. I consider myself the most vocal person in this game so far besides Damdred --> i would think people would have at least some opinion on me. Apparently you do aswell now, everyone else who has posted (after our morning) does, why is it not weird for you that Greymist doesn't? (that goes to Greymist aswell, i would like to hear an explanation to this) 2) Your read on RtaniSoul. You think they are second likely to be mafia (calling marv mafia here is just straight out bullshit), based on the fact all they did is call your #1 scumread scum?!?!?! How on earth does this make any sense at all? 3) Why is your vote on someone you can't possibly have any read on instead on someone who you DO apparently have a read on, and you legitmately, based on you, think is mafia? | ||
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On December 13 2015 00:48 Rels wrote: I will vote him as long as he doesnt do something Do you seriously think that this will provoke some sort of different response from marv based on if he is mafia or town? Because i can tell you it won't.. | ||
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On December 13 2015 00:58 Rels wrote: 1 - I explained why I thought that: I think townies are more likely to admit they have null reads, especially since there is only a few pages. 2 - yep - it has nothing to do with who they called out. Obviously if dp flips scum arsoultin is super likely town. But without association, I don't think what they did is enough to find them town. 3 - if left alone, scums will either hide between inactive or push mislynch on inactive. I push useless people to play so that can't happen 1) so your answer is in fact "no, i don't". 2) Excuse me but how do you actually read anyone town in a game if not for "they are trying to lynch people who are likely mafia" or "their reads align with mine"? I don't mean normally in a game, i mean in this game where all people are actually capable of posting good looking posts as mafia. 3) and again, your vote doesn't have any influence to the game (on marv). The only thing it does is that you look bad for not actually committing to push your actual scumread, if i am totally honest here.. On December 13 2015 00:58 Damdred wrote: Rayn I know we are both on the what is rels doing wagon. Could you tell me your thoughts on gm? And you tr Darth correct? My thoughts on Greymist are basically in the post towards Rels i just quoted above. Not sure if he is scum. I don't exactly townread DP. I don't scumread him either. I townread you and RtaniSoul, and Rels looks definitely the worst atm. On December 13 2015 00:58 Rels wrote: I don't care: if Marv doesn't do anything until tomorrow he's most likely scum. Yes, that is true. And you can vote for him tomorrow evening if he doesn't do anything. I will even follow you 100% if that is the case. Rn your vote, however, is not helping much as stated. | ||
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So i suggest you stop if you are town. | ||
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P.S. Thanks rayn! I'll take a look at your link...later? Maybe when I'm waiting at the airport to pick up Lex. Also, just to be clear, my point was the buddying and not the aggression...I am well aware that DP can be aggressive as either alignment, and we are both aware that Imperial is different, which is why I looked up the other town game (Avogadro, to be precise). So let me rephrase. Buddying without pushing anything early game is what caught our attention. When you look at Avogadro (i honestly forgot i was even in the game -- probably because i replaced into it) do you see a difference in how DP treats me, VE and geript in that game in contrary to others? Would you want to guess why? | ||
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On December 13 2015 01:43 Rels wrote: Yep. They rephrased something rayn answered entirely already. Actually they came to a different conclusion than i did so i would not call that "rephrasing". | ||
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On December 13 2015 01:59 Rels wrote: Explain the post above then. Cause to me: - they say X - you say X is not scum indicative - they say "let me rephrase it: we meant X" Yeah that's true.  | ||
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On December 13 2015 02:24 Damdred wrote: I'm still unsure why this makes him scum? Why is rephrasing a point that you think is strong (but they will check on) scum indicative. And I don't want to say why I think they rephrased anyway. I actually realize there is town!explanation to this aswell. ^^ But since we srsly need more posting from people that are not posting enough i wanna hold on to some things and let people either towntell or scumtell by themselves.. I'm gonna watch a movie, be back later. Hopefully a wild marvybear appears in the meantime. | ||
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