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On October 28 2015 09:34 Blazinghand wrote:
OH ALTERNATIVE EXPLANATION: All mafia were AFK, and so hosts had to RNG the shot and it (like my rng) landed on rayn
i laughed
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i think i might just make up my mind this phase and yolo tunnel vision it super hardcore stylez.
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that's a particularly weird and bad conclusion coming from you. because you or i would have been the shot if going by not gonna be ML'd people long before rayn. rayn at least had some potential left.
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On October 28 2015 10:58 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2015 09:10 ritoky wrote:On October 28 2015 07:07 GlowingBear wrote:
Weirdest game I have ever played. you just never gonna respond to anything? I didn't read a lot of posts. Anything in particular you want answered?
On October 28 2015 05:02 ritoky wrote:
yo GB, you here?
On October 28 2015 05:16 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2015 05:11 GlowingBear wrote:On October 28 2015 05:02 ritoky wrote:
yo GB, you here? Yes outside of vivax have your reads changed since the last read post?
i mean i am assuming you read it since you were directly responding to me....
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On October 28 2015 10:18 gumshoe wrote:For refrence here are onegu and Hopeless's views on Rayn atm. Onegu Show nested quote +I didnt and dont like his push on rayn. I pointed out why rayn was town and he said that what i said pointed to rayn being mafia not town and it didnt. hopeles Show nested quote +im basically never going to vote for Xata or Rayn (maybe rayn in lylo) they're my top town No need to think about it too much honestly, staying the course should work out fine : P just take this as a bit of a confidence booster in todays lynch XD
?????? wat are you doing?
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i only do kills if i am last left. i /c any if there are others alive. but yes i love me some wifom kill.
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these are still your reads then?
On October 26 2015 08:15 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2015 08:03 Xatalos wrote:On October 26 2015 08:00 GlowingBear wrote:On October 26 2015 07:55 Xatalos wrote:
I'd basically like to shoot these people right now if I had a gun....
- GB: completely static scumread on Vivax that's not affected by anything happening in the thread, and I actually noticed that marv disproved his reasoning during D1 (by showing that Vivax had made overly confident reads before) but that didn't affect anything... it just does indeed feel like he picked someone to scumread and continued calling him scum no matter what... + overall low effort and disinterest towards anything happening in the game... some of the nice posts he's made can't really absolve him at this point
- yamato: playing according to his scum meta (inactive, disinterested) - there's one town game where he was inactive as well, but mostly he's been relatively active and a good asset as town, there's nothing like that to be seen here....
- Onegu: gave a high townread for rayn, voted for him over his nullread at deadline when the lynch was still completely undecided.... just this alone I think is impossible for town, he did make an "RNG sheep" vote in a previous game but I just can't accept he would choose to vote for his (supposed) highest townread based on some meta-joke... it just shows that he has zero interest towards solving the game or doing anything... and he has refused to answer several questions from different players that probed into his nonsensical arguments over the game
- rayn: disinterested towards the lynch result of D1 (basically sheeping/OMGUSing away to whatever he could), then just started spamming/lurking and caring even less about scumhunting than before
So yeah, I'm basically content if any of these players ends up getting lynched right now.... It looks like we still have 3 mislynches even, so I doubt we can lose if we start by cleaning up this pile of scummy. marv never disproved anything, marv disagreed with me, which is different. And my read on Vivax progressed as he came back to the thread. It's all in my filter. And no, I'm not mafia. Have you ever considered him to be town after the first minute...? I guess you did offer alternative lynches at times, like rayn. I'd really like to hear your overall reads right now. Yes, I've tried to read him coming from a townie perspective. He could be town? Yes, but I'm fairly certain he isn't. I have you as town for filter length and activity, you seem to care about the game which is the towniest trait one can have right now. I have chromatically as town, still. I find hard to believe any scum would put so much effort into writing a scum case on you and me, reading filters and shit. I think Rayn can be mafia but his rage quit is giving me pause. Nonetheless, his flip on me + slam's read on him all points out to him being mafia. I don't trust his rage on slam very much because, well, he knows how slam plays and slam was actually being productive - but productive against Rayn. I am very suspicious of Onegu. I will always think he is a good lynch. Hopeless has some townie posts but some of them are too similar to Avogadro's mini mafia. I think gumshoe might be town just because he is defending me. I can't see mafia motivation behind defending me. Now that yamato is extremely unproductive I can see him being scum. As I said, yamato is one of the players that we can have better reads on later days. And here we are. I don't know what to do with BH. Some of his posts seems very townie, others seems like fluff. I particularly dislike his "eternal dining" posts. On the other hand, I think the has being thinking about the game critically, so he is probably town. I don't know if I forgot someone.
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On October 28 2015 11:29 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2015 11:22 ritoky wrote:these are still your reads then? On October 26 2015 08:15 GlowingBear wrote:On October 26 2015 08:03 Xatalos wrote:On October 26 2015 08:00 GlowingBear wrote:On October 26 2015 07:55 Xatalos wrote:
I'd basically like to shoot these people right now if I had a gun....
- GB: completely static scumread on Vivax that's not affected by anything happening in the thread, and I actually noticed that marv disproved his reasoning during D1 (by showing that Vivax had made overly confident reads before) but that didn't affect anything... it just does indeed feel like he picked someone to scumread and continued calling him scum no matter what... + overall low effort and disinterest towards anything happening in the game... some of the nice posts he's made can't really absolve him at this point
- yamato: playing according to his scum meta (inactive, disinterested) - there's one town game where he was inactive as well, but mostly he's been relatively active and a good asset as town, there's nothing like that to be seen here....
- Onegu: gave a high townread for rayn, voted for him over his nullread at deadline when the lynch was still completely undecided.... just this alone I think is impossible for town, he did make an "RNG sheep" vote in a previous game but I just can't accept he would choose to vote for his (supposed) highest townread based on some meta-joke... it just shows that he has zero interest towards solving the game or doing anything... and he has refused to answer several questions from different players that probed into his nonsensical arguments over the game
- rayn: disinterested towards the lynch result of D1 (basically sheeping/OMGUSing away to whatever he could), then just started spamming/lurking and caring even less about scumhunting than before
So yeah, I'm basically content if any of these players ends up getting lynched right now.... It looks like we still have 3 mislynches even, so I doubt we can lose if we start by cleaning up this pile of scummy. marv never disproved anything, marv disagreed with me, which is different. And my read on Vivax progressed as he came back to the thread. It's all in my filter. And no, I'm not mafia. Have you ever considered him to be town after the first minute...? I guess you did offer alternative lynches at times, like rayn. I'd really like to hear your overall reads right now. Yes, I've tried to read him coming from a townie perspective. He could be town? Yes, but I'm fairly certain he isn't. I have you as town for filter length and activity, you seem to care about the game which is the towniest trait one can have right now. I have chromatically as town, still. I find hard to believe any scum would put so much effort into writing a scum case on you and me, reading filters and shit. I think Rayn can be mafia but his rage quit is giving me pause. Nonetheless, his flip on me + slam's read on him all points out to him being mafia. I don't trust his rage on slam very much because, well, he knows how slam plays and slam was actually being productive - but productive against Rayn. I am very suspicious of Onegu. I will always think he is a good lynch. Hopeless has some townie posts but some of them are too similar to Avogadro's mini mafia. I think gumshoe might be town just because he is defending me. I can't see mafia motivation behind defending me. Now that yamato is extremely unproductive I can see him being scum. As I said, yamato is one of the players that we can have better reads on later days. And here we are. I don't know what to do with BH. Some of his posts seems very townie, others seems like fluff. I particularly dislike his "eternal dining" posts. On the other hand, I think the has being thinking about the game critically, so he is probably town. I don't know if I forgot someone. Yes. Not yamato, cause his dead
do you think lynching yo, h1, and onegu would get us to final 3 then?
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chroma you might be my only remaining town read right now...i don't really know what gumdrop is doing atm.....this game sux.
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yeah but he's been soft deflecting off of gb for a while now, and he had that whole "yamato and gb are opposite alignments" thing that was weird but i was like "....ok" and then he rolls out today wanting to lynch onegu. who pretty much every1 who has died town read....it's gone from soft deflecting to pretty hard deflection.
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do you understand why? cuz i don't.
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i really have SERIOUS doubts that onegu is mafia. they started when i began to come around on rayn after talks last night.
hopeless is basically a coinflip who is probably a must-lynch @ some point this game which sucks...
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so you think onegu is actively doing more scummy things than gb? okay, please enlighten me. what are they?
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also if you can't understand how the following confuses me then i guess we live in different worlds:
gumdrop: "yamato and gb are opposite alignments cuz stuff. let's lynch yamato."
ritoky: "uhhhhh gb is way more scummy, lynch him"
gumdrop: "nah"
yamato lynched -> town
gumdrop: "fuck i was wrong"
next day
gumdrop: "well, stay the course....lynch onegu"
ritoky: "wat? aren't they opposite alignments? why soft deflecting?"
gumdrop: "i am totally not deflecting or defending him at all, he is just 4th on my lynch list"
ritoky: "but he was opposite alignment of town????? that's deflecting"
this is what happened. this is why you confuse me.
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On October 28 2015 13:18 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2015 13:13 ritoky wrote:
so you think onegu is actively doing more scummy things than gb? okay, please enlighten me. what are they? sigh. it's yam/gb again basically in terms of activity making people seem scummier tbh
if that's the case 100% of people should be on hopeless instead. i refuse to accept this answer from anyone. if you're judging based on activity then lynch hopeless 0 questions asked. but don't sit here and tell me "onegu scummier than gb" and then give me activity bs.
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i mean i quoted a post from 72 hours ago from GB which had basically 1 town read, and a bunch of null reads, asked him if these are his reads and the guy said "yep" with 0 effort. his only defense is "i am town". like what is wrong with people to not see this shit? can this town not be salvaged?
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also every single dead person had a slight TR at least on onegu. rayn TR onegu HARD. marv TR onegu. yamato didn't want to lynch him. slam didn't want to lynch him.....does onegu really kill of every person in the game who doesn't want him dead? like really? is every single one of those players wrong?
i really do not think this lynch should be anywhere near onegu.
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On October 28 2015 13:30 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2015 13:13 ritoky wrote:
so you think onegu is actively doing more scummy things than gb? okay, please enlighten me. what are they? Show nested quote +Xata many reads, big filter. he is like 99% town. Rayn my friend you should get off of this one. Calls xata 99 percent town / : then flops pretty hard on him just because Xata called him scum(which was fair) and because of his certainty that rayn is townShow nested quote +Nope Rayn hasnt left yet. He is still town.
Xata is making zero sense here.
##Vote: Xata
Show nested quote +I am really kinda feeling Xata is scum with hopeless now. Like he was all ok yeah we can lynch him, then no we have to be safe. He really waffled on it and felt really weird to me.
And yes me and hopeless are both scum, that makes perfect sense...
Also if were looking for a reason why the Rayn lynch happened here ya go I guess / : Show nested quote +
Rayn scum reads Xata, and hopeless and then dies. Coincidence I think not.
Anyway I am going to bed.
We should lynch xata or hopeless today.
Does seem super convenient doesnt it Onegu? Also, what alarms is me is the first thing everyone else said when rayn fliped, was basically wtf. Yet Onegu came into thread, not at all suprised, guns fucking blazing with this gem, seems a bit prepared maybe? Another thing, my read on Rayn literally comes from countless hours playing serious games with him XD, I dont know how much Onegu plays with Rayn, but even I was a bit uncertain here and there / : yet he never wavered? meh, dont particularly buy it. Also I think hes bussing hopeless (I sure would) but thats just petty suspicion / :
i have had a mild town read on xata all game and i woke up after that kill seriously considering lynching him. am i mafia?
this is not convincing to me in the slightest.
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