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Onegu
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Xatalos
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On October 23 2015 05:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't understand the reads on ritoky. He literally said: "BH is town until he does something egregious enough to be considered not town." "generally speaking he doesn't rng as mafia, but i wouldn't put it past him to break meta." So what? He townreads Blazinghand for something he then says, in the next post, is not a reason to townread Blazinghand`!!? Well it could be that it's not impossible for him to break meta, but not as likely as just following it? | ||
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Onegu
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On October 23 2015 05:23 Blazinghand wrote: Couid you possibly rephrase this? I'm having trouble getting what you're getting at here. You're just following GB... which you claim to have RNGed. please advise Oh you havent played in one of the games where I rng who to sheep. I still give reads and tell you who you should vote, but still sheep my rng. | ||
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Blazinghand
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On October 23 2015 05:22 Onegu wrote: But didnt his links just go to your filter in games and not actually point things out lol. The exact posts in question: On October 22 2015 07:03 ritoky wrote: as someone who impersonated BH recently, BH is town until he does something egregious enough to be considered not town. evidence: as mafia - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/481138-aperture-mafia-4-this-time-its-personal?user=Blazinghand http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/463542-cell-mini-mafia-iii?user=Blazinghand http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449782-yuma-mini-mafia?user=Blazinghand as town - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=Blazinghand http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?user=Blazinghand http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461330-noir-mini-mafia-chapter-2?user=Blazinghand we done here? On October 22 2015 07:08 ritoky wrote: generally speaking he doesn't rng as mafia, but i wouldn't put it past him to break meta. So here's what's going on. ritoky links my town games, and if you actually click through, it's noteworthy that as town I often immediately RNG at game start. Then he links my recent scum games, and there are no RNGs. He notes "I wouldn't put it past him to break meta" which is also a relevant piece of information. Maybe this makes sense to me becasue it's about me, but this immediately struck me as thoughtful and the kind of thing someone would say when they're trying to figure me out. Nobody else bothered to research me, but ritoky, he wan'ted to know, you see? He wanted to KNOW. he was trying to figure me otu. That's what town does | ||
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Onegu
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On October 23 2015 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: because yamato is town. I agree but you had him as scum earlier and then didnt see a reason why you changed your read... | ||
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Blazinghand
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On October 23 2015 05:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't understand the reads on ritoky. He literally said: "BH is town until he does something egregious enough to be considered not town." "generally speaking he doesn't rng as mafia, but i wouldn't put it past him to break meta." So what? He townreads Blazinghand for something he then says, in the next post, is not a reason to townread Blazinghand`!!? He makes a perfectly reasonable set of statements. "Blazinghand has a meta of using RNG as town" "...however, this doesn't mean we should automatically assume BH is town. BH is a tricky fucker, and is notoriously a tricky fucker. He has done all kinds of things as scum that nobody thought scum would do, like pretend to get dumped, be depressed, death in teh family, and so on. He will do anything as scum to win, he's so sexy and good at this game. BH, you are so cool. This is known by all people" These are both reasonabl eand true statements | ||
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On October 23 2015 05:28 Blazinghand wrote: He makes a perfectly reasonable set of statements. "Blazinghand has a meta of using RNG as town" "...however, this doesn't mean we should automatically assume BH is town. BH is a tricky fucker, and is notoriously a tricky fucker. He has done all kinds of things as scum that nobody thought scum would do, like pretend to get dumped, be depressed, death in teh family, and so on. He will do anything as scum to win, he's so sexy and good at this game. BH, you are so cool. This is known by all people" These are both reasonabl eand true statements yes and STILL he assumes you are town as per his posts. see? It doesn't make any sense. | ||
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Onegu
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Blazinghand
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On October 23 2015 05:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: There is absolutely nothing alignment indicative in your rng Blazinghand, you know it, everyone should know it. "Figuring out" something regarding it is a waste of time. On October 23 2015 05:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: yes and STILL he assumes you are town as per his posts. see? It doesn't make any sense. Ok but part of what's going on here also is not everyone has seen firsthand what I'm capable of. Most people hear a story or two and think "oh, that BH guy must be pretty decent. He'll do anything to win. I guess I better count this well-known-to-BH meta evidence less strongly". Not everyone is like you, not everyone has seen the true darkness and depravity I am willing to perpetrate to win as scum. I've literally made peopel feel IRL feelings for me, feel bad, feel hurt, feel worried, want to reach out to me out-of-game, just to not get lynched for one day as scum. I've sunk to depths that are BEYOND most people's comprehensions. You know me, rayn. You know not to trust RNG as a town-tell. PEople hear that, though, and they think "okay, don't trust it AS MUCH as I normally would", because they don't KNOW. They ahven't gazed into the abyss. They are still sane. They can still be saved. You, though... you've seen what I'm capable of, and perhaps have forgotten what it is like to be normal, to not know me as you do | ||
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Xatalos
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On October 23 2015 05:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: There is absolutely nothing alignment indicative in your rng Blazinghand, you know it, everyone should know it. "Figuring out" something regarding it is a waste of time. Well it's kind of like... Imagine player X. He has a great record of posting a lengthy introduction post as scum when he starts the game, and as town he's so far just immediately jumped in and started posting actual content. Now in a current game he immediately makes a lengthy introduction post. Could he have done it as town to make himself harder to read? Possibly. But I'd still take into account that maybe the meta is repeating itself, no? And if you read my posts, it's not just that about Blazinghand, but more like how he was so excited about the RNG when he's several times before said that it's pro-town. It would be harder to convey that excitement as scum when he think it's so pro-town clearly. | ||
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Chromatically
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On October 23 2015 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: okay after poe i am lynching into: Blazinghand Xatalos Onegu Alakaslam ritoky i am pretty sure we have three mafia there. I like this list a lot. I would have Hopeless on there too though. On ritoky, he didn't actually make an RNG argument at all. He just posted filter links (means nothing), and then said BH usually talks about RNG as town (which I would argue isn't even supported by those links, one mafia game is a cell game and another BH replaced in). And then he doesn't even come to a read on you. It's not a town thought process, it's useless filler. | ||
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Blazinghand
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On October 23 2015 05:29 Onegu wrote: Does rayn normally act this way when BH rng's his vote or is this just because the RnG landed on him... He's usually not as aggressive, but historically he makes posts like: On February 14 2015 17:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Blazinghand, let's be honest: Are you forging that read on vayne? The one besides rng? On February 15 2015 00:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Are people really this dumb? geez i guess BH was right. RAYN: BH ARE YOU FORGING THE READ ON VAYNE BESIDES RNG? BH: OF COURSE I AM RAYN! ...... On February 17 2015 10:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: As a veteran how do you twist a RNG lynch into anything else than an RNG? In this game, rayn Vayne and I were all townies, of course | ||
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Xatalos
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On October 23 2015 05:32 Blazinghand wrote: Ok but part of what's going on here also is not everyone has seen firsthand what I'm capable of. Most people hear a story or two and think "oh, that BH guy must be pretty decent. He'll do anything to win. I guess I better count this well-known-to-BH meta evidence less strongly". Not everyone is like you, not everyone has seen the true darkness and depravity I am willing to perpetrate to win as scum. I've literally made peopel feel IRL feelings for me, feel bad, feel hurt, feel worried, want to reach out to me out-of-game, just to not get lynched for one day as scum. I've sunk to depths that are BEYOND most people's comprehensions. You know me, rayn. You know not to trust RNG as a town-tell. PEople hear that, though, and they think "okay, don't trust it AS MUCH as I normally would", because they don't KNOW. They ahven't gazed into the abyss. They are still sane. They can still be saved. You, though... you've seen what I'm capable of, and perhaps have forgotten what it is like to be normal, to not know me as you do Haha :D Well, I'm sure you'll start pushing RNG in your next scumgame after this... Unless you happened to already be scum here, which would kind of defeat the point. | ||
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Blazinghand
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On October 23 2015 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: I fail to see how i am being "aggressive" here, so could you explain BH? well, not towards me. You're actually being a little more gentle with me, compared to normal. Normally I'd expect you to end up TRing ritoky for that on your own. Maybe it's been some time since we played together, or my edge is getting dull, but I recall you being pretty good at noticing people's motivations. | ||
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Onegu
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On October 23 2015 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: I fail to see how i am being "aggressive" here, so could you explain BH? My point was you wanted to lynch him right away this game after he did it, but in the past it doesnt look like you wanted to if that is what I am seeing from what BH just posted. | ||
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