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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
October 22 2015 20:42 GMT
#581
Wait does rayn actually want to lynch me? I'm like P sure he hasn't voted me or tried to call me scum but I might have missed it

brb dinner
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 22 2015 20:42 GMT
#582
On October 23 2015 05:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I fail to see how i am being "aggressive" here, so could you explain BH?


well, not towards me. You're actually being a little more gentle with me, compared to normal. Normally I'd expect you to end up TRing ritoky for that on your own. Maybe it's been some time since we played together, or my edge is getting dull, but I recall you being pretty good at noticing people's motivations.

ritoky is a really had to read for me and i don't think he has said much of anything that could be in my opinion considered townie.

Maybe it's jsut like you say and other people do not know you as well as i do (and what you can / cannot do as mafia), but still... it's really hard for me to believe both of Xatalos and ritoky actually believe you are town for your actions regarding the rng lynch. I just don't fucking buy it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 22 2015 20:43 GMT
#583
On October 23 2015 05:42 Blazinghand wrote:
Wait does rayn actually want to lynch me? I'm like P sure he hasn't voted me or tried to call me scum but I might have missed it

brb dinner

I wanted to before you started playing. I am not exactly townreading you but i wouldn't want to lynch you rn.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 22 2015 20:43 GMT
#584
On October 23 2015 05:40 Onegu wrote:
Rayn you still havent responded to why your yamato read changed.

I don't want to respond to you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 22 2015 20:44 GMT
#585
Hey Onegu i just tell you who to lynch and then you vote for them, right.
I don't have to tell you anything.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
October 22 2015 20:44 GMT
#586
On October 23 2015 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 05:39 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 23 2015 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I fail to see how i am being "aggressive" here, so could you explain BH?


well, not towards me. You're actually being a little more gentle with me, compared to normal. Normally I'd expect you to end up TRing ritoky for that on your own. Maybe it's been some time since we played together, or my edge is getting dull, but I recall you being pretty good at noticing people's motivations.

ritoky is a really had to read for me and i don't think he has said much of anything that could be in my opinion considered townie.

Maybe it's jsut like you say and other people do not know you as well as i do (and what you can / cannot do as mafia), but still... it's really hard for me to believe both of Xatalos and ritoky actually believe you are town for your actions regarding the rng lynch. I just don't fucking buy it.


When I get back I'll go through game history and see if they've played with me before during one of my many betrayals. That will decide this issue one way or another.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 22 2015 20:44 GMT
#587
On October 22 2015 13:35 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 13:28 Chromatically wrote:
On October 22 2015 13:23 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think Vivax is mafia.

I think Xatalos has some questionable parts of his filter and I agree with gumshoe to an extent.

I do not think gumshoe is mafia very often (given his play this game).

I think marv has changed how he plays (quite obviously). Don't know what to make of that quite yet.

I think rayn is leaning town but it's hard to say with not much having happened.

Most others are a big ?, including yourself.

tl;dr it's been 20 pages and 8 hours and no reads are confident.

Who would you lynch between if you had to pick right now?

I wouldn't, because I have like 40 hours to decide.

This is one of the issues I have with Xatalos/Vivax and their "read" on me. Do you really expect me to be super active when there's nothing really that interesting to talk about? It's fucking pointless conjecture. No answer to your question will mean a damn thing in 20 hours when I have more substantive stuff to talk about.

Sure, it makes you question my alignment, but do I really care? No. When I want to, I'll be painfully obvious town and I'll almost certainly find a better lynch than most of you, and once you realize this, we'll be heading in a better direction. Thinking that you're "putting pressure" on me by forcing me to answer asinine questions is literally the least useful thing you could do at this juncture.

If I fail to deliver, you can go ahead and try to get me lynched, but in the mean time, don't delude yourself into thinking I'm scum just because I won't play the game the way you want me to. It's rather silly.


Oh yeah, I think this post seemed a bit town... Provided that he DOES start doing something since time has already passed
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 22 2015 20:47 GMT
#588
I don't remember any "betrayals" at least. Sorry to say this, but the impression I've gotten is that you're generally not very useful, with some moments of goodness Like I think you tricked the scumteam to kill you in one game instead of me when I was the Cop?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 22 2015 20:50 GMT
#589
On October 23 2015 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 05:39 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 23 2015 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I fail to see how i am being "aggressive" here, so could you explain BH?


well, not towards me. You're actually being a little more gentle with me, compared to normal. Normally I'd expect you to end up TRing ritoky for that on your own. Maybe it's been some time since we played together, or my edge is getting dull, but I recall you being pretty good at noticing people's motivations.

ritoky is a really had to read for me and i don't think he has said much of anything that could be in my opinion considered townie.

Maybe it's jsut like you say and other people do not know you as well as i do (and what you can / cannot do as mafia), but still... it's really hard for me to believe both of Xatalos and ritoky actually believe you are town for your actions regarding the rng lynch. I just don't fucking buy it.


Really? Well, I guess we'll see as the game goes on. I'm relatively sure I got the right impression, and more so with some of BH's more recent posts.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 22 2015 20:50 GMT
#590
Hopeless could you play properly and post more of your thoughts.
Like i am pretty sure you are town but i am also pretty sure you're gonna get lynched because other people do not know why you are town and nothing i say can possibly change that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 22 2015 20:51 GMT
#591
On October 23 2015 05:50 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 23 2015 05:39 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 23 2015 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I fail to see how i am being "aggressive" here, so could you explain BH?


well, not towards me. You're actually being a little more gentle with me, compared to normal. Normally I'd expect you to end up TRing ritoky for that on your own. Maybe it's been some time since we played together, or my edge is getting dull, but I recall you being pretty good at noticing people's motivations.

ritoky is a really had to read for me and i don't think he has said much of anything that could be in my opinion considered townie.

Maybe it's jsut like you say and other people do not know you as well as i do (and what you can / cannot do as mafia), but still... it's really hard for me to believe both of Xatalos and ritoky actually believe you are town for your actions regarding the rng lynch. I just don't fucking buy it.


Really? Well, I guess we'll see as the game goes on. I'm relatively sure I got the right impression, and more so with some of BH's more recent posts.

You having the right impressions (assuming it is right) has nothing to do with your towniness. Having the right impression from something you should not have any on the other hand does affect my read on you.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 22 2015 20:51 GMT
#592
On October 23 2015 05:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hopeless could you play properly and post more of your thoughts.
Like i am pretty sure you are town but i am also pretty sure you're gonna get lynched because other people do not know why you are town and nothing i say can possibly change that.


So why is he town?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
October 22 2015 20:52 GMT
#593
On October 23 2015 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey Onegu i just tell you who to lynch and then you vote for them, right.
I don't have to tell you anything.



NONONO

Its the other way around. I tell you who to vote. And tell you its one of my "gut reads" and you vote them.

You have to actually provide reasons. I dont.

But this response and the one before it are from a town rayn most likely lol.

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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2015 20:53 GMT
#594
I'm sorry RNGesus I cannot in good conscience go along with voting rayn when he's being rayn.
##unvote
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 22 2015 20:54 GMT
#595
On October 23 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 05:50 Xatalos wrote:
On October 23 2015 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 23 2015 05:39 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 23 2015 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I fail to see how i am being "aggressive" here, so could you explain BH?


well, not towards me. You're actually being a little more gentle with me, compared to normal. Normally I'd expect you to end up TRing ritoky for that on your own. Maybe it's been some time since we played together, or my edge is getting dull, but I recall you being pretty good at noticing people's motivations.

ritoky is a really had to read for me and i don't think he has said much of anything that could be in my opinion considered townie.

Maybe it's jsut like you say and other people do not know you as well as i do (and what you can / cannot do as mafia), but still... it's really hard for me to believe both of Xatalos and ritoky actually believe you are town for your actions regarding the rng lynch. I just don't fucking buy it.


Really? Well, I guess we'll see as the game goes on. I'm relatively sure I got the right impression, and more so with some of BH's more recent posts.

You having the right impressions (assuming it is right) has nothing to do with your towniness. Having the right impression from something you should not have any on the other hand does affect my read on you.


You mean I could have tried to pocket him by giving him an easy townread as scum? Well, I can't deny I haven't done stuff like that as scum. I guess we'll just have to see that's not the case here.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2015 20:55 GMT
#596
On October 23 2015 05:51 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 05:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hopeless could you play properly and post more of your thoughts.
Like i am pretty sure you are town but i am also pretty sure you're gonna get lynched because other people do not know why you are town and nothing i say can possibly change that.


So why is he town?

Maybe you should let me deal with that...actually something you posted bothered me

On October 23 2015 05:33 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 05:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is absolutely nothing alignment indicative in your rng Blazinghand, you know it, everyone should know it. "Figuring out" something regarding it is a waste of time.


Well it's kind of like... Imagine player X. He has a great record of posting a lengthy introduction post as scum when he starts the game, and as town he's so far just immediately jumped in and started posting actual content. Now in a current game he immediately makes a lengthy introduction post.

Could he have done it as town to make himself harder to read? Possibly. But I'd still take into account that maybe the meta is repeating itself, no?

And if you read my posts, it's not just that about Blazinghand, but more like how he was so excited about the RNG when he's several times before said that it's pro-town. It would be harder to convey that excitement as scum when he think it's so pro-town clearly.

It reads like "lengthy introduction == scum" but BH is not scum because he's excited? What did I miss here?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 22 2015 20:56 GMT
#597
On October 23 2015 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
because yamato is town.


Oh yeah, I'd also like to know how this read came to be btw
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 22 2015 20:57 GMT
#598
On October 23 2015 05:54 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 23 2015 05:50 Xatalos wrote:
On October 23 2015 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 23 2015 05:39 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 23 2015 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I fail to see how i am being "aggressive" here, so could you explain BH?


well, not towards me. You're actually being a little more gentle with me, compared to normal. Normally I'd expect you to end up TRing ritoky for that on your own. Maybe it's been some time since we played together, or my edge is getting dull, but I recall you being pretty good at noticing people's motivations.

ritoky is a really had to read for me and i don't think he has said much of anything that could be in my opinion considered townie.

Maybe it's jsut like you say and other people do not know you as well as i do (and what you can / cannot do as mafia), but still... it's really hard for me to believe both of Xatalos and ritoky actually believe you are town for your actions regarding the rng lynch. I just don't fucking buy it.


Really? Well, I guess we'll see as the game goes on. I'm relatively sure I got the right impression, and more so with some of BH's more recent posts.

You having the right impressions (assuming it is right) has nothing to do with your towniness. Having the right impression from something you should not have any on the other hand does affect my read on you.


You mean I could have tried to pocket him by giving him an easy townread as scum? Well, I can't deny I haven't done stuff like that as scum. I guess we'll just have to see that's not the case here.

Although i find it impossible you and ritoky are mafia together. Blazinghand i am really not sure of. I would want him to give a scumread instead of townreads.

If you are town game should be easy.
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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 22 2015 20:57 GMT
#599
On October 23 2015 05:52 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey Onegu i just tell you who to lynch and then you vote for them, right.
I don't have to tell you anything.



NONONO

Its the other way around. I tell you who to vote. And tell you its one of my "gut reads" and you vote them.

You have to actually provide reasons. I dont.

But this response and the one before it are from a town rayn most likely lol.


Are you trying to get spite lynched? I may not be the most suited to make threats, but if you continue to play up the bravado without contributing I will fully support lynching you.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
October 22 2015 20:57 GMT
#600
On October 23 2015 05:56 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
because yamato is town.


Oh yeah, I'd also like to know how this read came to be btw



HEY RAYN. ^^^
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