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I truly hope the VT claims are from anti-town parties / blues since otherwise it's just, frankly, playing against your win condition. It'd be preferable if nobody claimed roles D1 or even after that without good reason. On October 13 2015 08:15 Koshi wrote: Town. Going to go with a plynch all liars through the entire game. Will totally ruin the game because town are lying bitches. But I will do it. If nobody lies I will use spidersenses. 4 antitown. Way too much anti town kp. First days are a joke. If there are 9 townies who need to lynch 4 anti townies while these antitownies got 4 kp and are immune to the other antitownies their kp the game is a total joke. There are also way to many blue roles. Blue roles with completely random effects based on the skill of the player. So tbh. If I try and lynch anti town D1 I will just get rewarded with a bullet and anti town will start shooting town faster than we can lynch anti town. Doesn't make any fucking sense. tldr 1: Koshi is going to do absolutely nothing the first days because the game looks like a joke. He might say some random shit about random people. He will appreciate it that when these random people are actually anti town that they won't shoot Koshi. tldr2: Read tldr 1 This felt a bit wrong to me. What I mean is the fact that Koshi was primarily concerned about his own life and while saying that town's position is bad (which should lead to the conclusion that it's time to play well), he concludes that he's going to lurk.. Which left me with the feeling that rather than having good lynches, he just wanted to avoid getting shot. The strongest motivation for that would be if he's anti-town. It's still possible that he's blue or something, but if that's the case, then it's pretty bad play to announce your survival instinct so clearly (making it less likely that you're a VT). Also Koshi: I don't agree that town is underpowered. The anti-towns can kill each other as well, and we have 2 (kind of) Medics in the game. Well, it is a bit random that way. | ||
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On October 13 2015 08:19 Koshi wrote: ##vote MoosyDoosy Isn't doing shit. Just sitting here idle. Mafia or anti town but for sure afraid to die. Meh... Why are you saying this as your reason when you just said yourself that you're afraid to die? | ||
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I've played my couple of last games on Vendetta Strada. Last time I played here... Was this one I think: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/484076-assassination-mafia Yeah I agree that Slam is feeling very carefree/relaxed. Which usually leans towards town... How did you come to that townread list btw? | ||
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Hm. I guess I can understand your point of view. It's a little bit too elaborate to be a fake frustration? | ||
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On October 13 2015 20:00 Koshi wrote: Seriously Xatalos. The explanation is standing in the damn vote. Moosy did completely nothing. He could be town doing completely nothing. Or he could be mafia doing completely nothing. Town sometimes adds some silly plan in their first post, or try to do something. Mafia doesn't have do to shit so sometimes they forget they actually need to pretend to be town in the start. Moosy didn't do shit. Hence. He could be mafia. Still didn't do shit when I poked him to do shit. Passive as fuck. Defensive. ezgame. I am reading this forum on TL Dota so I have no filters. But I am probably 100% right. I got the opposite picture? He didn't really do anything, but he seemed pretty relaxed despite your attack (not defensive / worried). And I think Mafia very rarely just "forget they need to pretend to look town". Rather, it's much more likely that Mafia do something at least resembling an okayish starter while townies often just explode. | ||
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On October 13 2015 19:58 Superbia wrote: I clicked myself and deleted myself. Haha, looks like you added yourself back in | ||
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On October 13 2015 20:09 Xatalos wrote: ##Vote: Sylencia Oh yeah... This was mostly because I disliked his style of just cautiously/briefly popping into the thread to make some semi-useless comment, then disappear. That and the fact that others who had posted so far had at least something town-leaning going for them. | ||
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On October 13 2015 20:17 Koshi wrote: Everything you wrote here has nothing to do with the current situation. You even fucking contradict your read on Moosy and your expectation what a townie would do. Sure. Some mafia make an OK starting post. Those are the mafia that understand that to look townie you need to start doing some minor shit. The shit mafia or trash 3p don't do that. Moosy didn't do that HENCE he is mafia. QED Looking "Not worried" and "not defensive" is not alignment indicative at all. I gave him a reason to do something. Instead he continued to do nothing. Like literally nothing. Could Moosy be town that decided to do literally nothing? Sure. He could be. Do I care? No. Was he my best bet on mafia? Yes. Is he still my best bet of mafia? Maybe, depends if this Xatalos guy decides to play dumb. I don't think that "doing something" or "playing according to someone else's wishes" is what makes someone townie, especially in the first page of the game or so. What could he have been "doing" exactly? The game had just started. What really matters is the consistency and motivation of someone's posts. Let's see... As scum, he would have plenty of motivation to appease someone that just started accusing him, or misdirect the attention away, or something. He would likely show some sort of inconsistency when the situation suddenly changes. Instead, he continued doing whatever meaningless he was doing. He wasn't panicked about the situation, and his attitude was consistent. That's why I got the gut feeling he was town. | ||
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On October 13 2015 20:21 Superbia wrote: Xatalos, who would you want to kill right now? (besides me for hacking your voting tool, apparently :D) Sylencia I guess, like I explained earlier. Many haven't even posted yet though. | ||
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On October 13 2015 20:25 Koshi wrote: WE WERE 5 MINUTES IN THE GAME. YOU W0T M8?????????????????????????? I repeat the question: what do you think he should have been "doing" at that time? You constantly insult "tryhards", but when someone doesn't tryhard in the first minutes of the game, he's 100% scum. That's the kind of inconsistency in attitude I don't like :/ | ||
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On October 13 2015 20:31 Koshi wrote: It's ok Xatalos. I am just on a different level than you. On a lower level though | ||
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On October 13 2015 20:32 Tictock wrote: Almost for got about this Purely based on openings and what I think. That's not a very elaborate reasoning :D | ||
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On October 13 2015 20:35 Koshi wrote: For people who don't understand my vote. Moosy has a 30% chance to be scum after the first page. That I don't believe Moosy to be 100% scum after 5 posts should not be a fucking surprise to you. That it is a very ambitious vote should be obvious. If you go "That vote looked really flimpsy" I don't believe this guy actually had Moosy pinned as scum, I should vote this guy instead because he is probably mafia" then you are bad. Koshi out for Wait... Didn't you specifically say he was 100% scum multiple times | ||
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On October 13 2015 20:35 Tictock wrote: What part of this post Made you think I had such reasoning? Well I expected a bit more than "I had those reads based on what I think" but it's not like it matters that much | ||
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On October 13 2015 20:39 GlowingBear wrote: Xata what do you think of Cake? I'll reserve my judgment until later since last time I played with her she was like the towniest player in the game (tone/attitude-wise) but was scum after all :D | ||
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As for Sylencia, he hasn't really done much of anything yet, but what caught my attention was that he just occasionally appeared into the thread to make some "harmless" questions etc. and immediately disappeared, then reappeared to ask something else later. I got the feeling then that he wasn't really trying to contribute, but rather to just appear as if he was doing something in the game. | ||
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Okay, it is more compelling than Sylencia. Let's see where this goes. ##Unvote ##Vote TicTock (btw you don't necessarily need to unvote for your vote to count, if you make a new vote every previous vote of yours is automatically removed - it's just that it might take a moment to update since there's a 3 minute interval it scans the thread) | ||
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On October 14 2015 01:37 Tictock wrote: Rels also skipped over something I was sure he would call out. I should double check that everyone has posted when I get home, I might be on to something. What did he skip and why is him focusing on meta worrying? Tbh I think he may be a bit tunneled, but he hasn't really said anything unreasonable about you. | ||
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On October 14 2015 02:13 Koshi wrote: No seriously. He can get behind the wagon on TT except for the fact that there are already 2 people on the wagon, who actually most likely believed the same thing GB believed but didn't have the hesitance of somebody already being on the wagon. Then GB proceeds to call these 2 people suspicious. Lol :D | ||
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On October 14 2015 04:57 Tictock wrote: So this caught my eye when I first read it. I held off commenting right away kus I know Rels often does opening post analysis, and wanted to see if he'd catch it too. Basically the idea is that scum are unsure how to open and will often spend extra time on their first posts and talk about multiple subjects. Xat's open practically screamed that to me. That's 4 different topics, 3 if you combine anything related to Koshi. 1-Votecount link 2- VT Claims, No Claims 3- Quote and scumread on Koshi 4- Town not underpowered The quote in 3 was also brought up by Slam earlier, same bolding even, but maybe that's weak. This might hold even better given that it has been sometime since Xat played here+ Show Spoiler + On October 13 2015 19:46 Xatalos wrote: Here's the current nicknames list if you're interested: https://github.com/Xatalos/mafia-votecount/blob/master/resources/public/js/nicknames.js I've played my couple of last games on Vendetta Strada. Last time I played here... Was this one I think: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/484076-assassination-mafia Yeah I agree that Slam is feeling very carefree/relaxed. Which usually leans towards town... How did you come to that townread list btw? Also his defense of Moosy felt a little off, as did his early town read+ Show Spoiler + On October 13 2015 19:33 Xatalos wrote: My gut feeling is that MoosyDoosy is town. If you ask me why? It's because he's taking it so easy while being accused. I think it's a bit more likely to become defensive or even over-react somehow if you're actually not town, rather than joke around. Especially since there are several anti-town factions, it's even more dangerous for you if votes get piled on you... Moosy's filter defines silent btw, half of his page is pre-game. That's quite a bit of picking and choosing in how he applies this logic. So yea, this guy has been my top scumread for quite some time, and I'm fairly sure Xata flips non-town here. ##Vote: Xatalos Well yeah, at this point MoosyDoosy's inactivity is starting to get irritating. I still get the feeling that anti-town wouldn't blatantly make themselves suspicious like that... Or generally just act without care for their own survival. In my experience people like that are usually town who get easily mislynched by scum. *Rarely* there are cases where scum take that as their strategy and WIFOM themselves out of suspicion... I kind of doubt MoosyDoosy is going for such a high-risk play. Out of curiosity, when did I become your top scumread? You haven't really even mentioned me before that, but you said "for a long time". The case is kind of a cherry-picked gathering of pretty null-leaning things as well. Not sure how talking about several topics in your opening is really scummy. Many people have done that. | ||
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On October 14 2015 05:23 Rels wrote: Actually it only means something if xatalos and moosy are in a team together. Otherwise that illogical defense of Moosy is without a purpose. So by voting xatalos you're also suspecting moosy to be his teammate ? I guess he's indicating that as scum I'd just be making up inconsistent reads? I don't think he means I'd defend a teammate like that. That'd be just stupid. | ||
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On October 14 2015 05:30 deconduo wrote: That's a good point actually. Because its teams of 2, scumteams will probably have to hard defend each other from lynches. Bussing is not a viable strat this game because both sides have KP. Hm.. I guess that's a worthwhile point. | ||
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"So yea, this guy has been my top scumread for quite some time, and I'm fairly sure Xata flips non-town here." Dunno why, but this sentence felt fake to me. This is all new information to the thread at least, but apparently he's been thinking these "for quite some time". How am I so suddenly strongly scum when there was no indication of that beforehand? | ||
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On October 14 2015 05:36 Rels wrote: The point he's agreeing is that you could be scum with moosy Why are you agreeing with him I suppose you are agreeing with the fact there are two teams of two and teammates wouldn't bus ... I don't know this seems weird to me Yeah I agreed that in this setup, it's less likely that scum would bus each other. | ||
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On October 14 2015 03:45 CopCake wrote: Rels and GB being like I suspect GB but I still answer glowing bear questions. NO FUCKING WAY, you two are also mafia, take back my GB townread. Btw I don't understand this part | ||
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A bit conflicted on TicTock overall. His recent posts have seemed more decent and pretty focused on scumhunting and such... So he might not really be the best lynch today. I think I can sort of understand why he's pushing me... It just feels tunneled when he's focused on it so much, and the evidence isn't really that good... But oh well. I wouldn't probably be the priority mislynch target for scum anyway since I'm not easy to lynch. Tentatively could be town? MoosyDoosy's read post was pretty terrible. Not even the reads themselves so much, but the fact that like half of the players were included for lynching for whatever reasons. Town usually tend to focus on like 1-3 players they'd rather lynch, whereas he focused on as many players as possible. It just gave the feeling that he'd be fine with getting any of those players lynched given the opportunity. Well, the reads too... I also flinched when I saw the part "CopCake has had good thoughts" when she hasn't really said anything sensible yet. I think it's very unlikely that the anti-town factions would push members of their own faction in this setup D1, especially when the setup is so "swingy" and the lynch is everything but decided yet. It's not totally impossible, but I doubt they would want to immediately crash their chances of victory for a little town cred. I think these anti-town factions are quite unlikely: Sylencia/CopCake MoosyDoosy/Superbia Onegu/MoosyDoosy gobbledydook/CopCake deconduo/CopCake Not sure how much this information can be used before any actual flips, but.... It should be at least kept in mind. At least I'm like 95% certain that Sylencia/CopCake aren't in the same faction. Otherwise I see absolutely no sense for Sylencia to suddenly go so hard against CopCake. It's very plausible that they could be on opposing factions, though. It could make sense especially since Sylencia focuses on CopCake being "3rd party"... Although in fact it does make slight sense for CopCake to be 3rd party like Sylencia said? Considering that she uses only the word "mafia" and never mentions anything about 3rd parties. Not really a strong point... But scum!Sylencia would probably notice that more easily than town!Sylencia, I guess. Overall, I don't think any of CopCake/MoosyDoosy/Sylencia are really bad bets. Sylencia probably least of them... I just don't really like his overall lackluster posting (popping irregularly to make some post that makes absolutely no impact on the game) and now this hard push on CopCake for "looking like 3rd party" (TMI...?). Not completely sure which one has the highest chances of flipping anti-town... But maybe CopCake looks the worst right now, slightly, especially with posts like these... On October 14 2015 10:58 CopCake wrote: you think rels is town tho. that makes you mafia. There's 0% logic there. The reads themselves are ridiculous, but the worst part is not pushing Rels if just "thinking Rels is town" is the reason to scumread someone (with that reasoning most players in the game would be scum btw). It's just hard to grasp she could be genuinely making these reads at all. ##Vote CopCake | ||
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On October 14 2015 22:06 Tictock wrote: Ok I promised this, but I'm already rethinking some stuff. I'll be keeping up with the thread as I can at work, though I wont be able to post much till near EoD. Probably Town Rels - I should point out that Rels is a very strong scum player so people shouldn't give him an easy pass just because he's active. Still I have a hard time seeing him rolling scum 3 games in a row, and I'm not having any sneaking suspicions of him like I did in SoW2. GlowingBear - I've agreed with most of his posts, he's not all over the place and causing confusion like I've seen him do as scum. Even the post where he suggested blues claim if they need to didn't feel like role hunting to me. Town Lean Koshi - Poked his head out way early, pretty active though most of it is complaining about the balance deconduo - Joined the game late, made a decent reads post and was pretty much the first person to seriously push Cake. Probably would be a straight town read besides the fact he's been fairly inactive. Sylencia - I'm actually not sure why I'm leaning town on Syl over straight null, something about his tone feels townie Null Onegu CopCake Superbia - I agree with GB, a couple of his posts felt towny. Continueing to throw out the "brb" thing after getting called out on it seems townie to me as well. Alakaslam - Really not sure how to read Slam, he's low null right now because I don't have time to filter dive him and I don't recall anything he's done this game Scum/Scum Lean gobbledydook MoosyDoosy Xatalos I didn't leave a note next to the people I've been discussing recently anyways. If you liked my last post, why am I still top scum while CopCake/Sylencia (two of the main suspects) are town/null? Or was this just some post you prepared before and only posted now? Why not correct it before posting then? | ||
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Tictock: I'm not really sure about you yet. Maybe a part of it could be the contradictory feelings about your push on me. On the other hand, it's hard to feel it being town-motivated when I'm town, but when you think about it, it's not like I'm a very good target to push for anti-town. The reasons also aren't absolute trash like some players (CopCake, MoosyDoosy etc.) have presented. Still I feel there's definitely a bias to present null-leaning things more negatively than they should be, but it's hard to say if that's town or anti-town tunneling for the time being. The list's value isn't great right now, but I just wrote it down for later. At LYLO it could prove to be crucial, for example (as a piece to the puzzle of figuring out the factions). | ||
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On October 15 2015 01:50 Rels wrote: TT s arguments are good though. You used different logic for different people, and most importantly you only voted on ongoing trains. You cannot dismiss them as " not trash" and "null leaning things". Tbh I think I explained my "different" treatment of MoosyDoosy and Sylencia, and nobody else has really brought up Sylencia as far as I remember. But I don't really even care too much right now. There's no way I'm getting lynched today and things should be clearer after the lynch&kills, I hope. | ||
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Please someone else put your vote down on CopCake. A no-lynch would be pretty sad in this situation. At best we lynch anti-town (pretty likely), at worst we move the game forward at our pace rather than having CopCake as a problem tomorrow. | ||
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On October 15 2015 06:28 Koshi wrote: Nha. I dont believe in this lynch. But you know her. I am cool with it You know her? | ||
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If you prefer MoosyDoosy, state quickly why? | ||
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Day 1 Votecount CopCake (7): deconduo, gobbledydook, Sylencia, Rels, GlowingBear, Xatalos, MoosyDoosy MoosyDoosy (5): Rels (1): CopCake Koshi (0): Sylencia (0): Tictock (0): Xatalos (0): Superbia (0): Not Voting (0): | ||
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On October 15 2015 07:48 Alakaslam wrote: Who said this? Is this a Moosy quote? Because yes CC has been articulating badly- I speak as one in a glass house Yeah MoosyDoosy said this | ||
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On October 15 2015 07:49 Tictock wrote: I've explained my reasons a few times. Moosy's only read push has been on Sup and his read was based on shit he berated Rels for being. Cops reads are wierd but thy haev evolved, shes challenged people. Well yeah MoosyDoosy's reads are terrible, but so are CopCake's.... And I'd expect CopCake to be the better one out of them, all things equal. Granted I've only seen scum!CopCake before and she was better than this even there. | ||
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On October 15 2015 07:51 CopCake wrote: And I am not wrong I might be wrong in one, maybe two, but those are my reads, liked it or not. Oh yeah add Xatalos in the list of suspects. Do you only use OMGUS to form your reads now? | ||
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On October 15 2015 07:53 Tictock wrote: If you mean her last scum game here then yes, thats kinda my line of thinking as well. I meant a game on Vendetta Strada. | ||
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On October 15 2015 07:55 CopCake wrote: No, I am a GOOD SCUM, only that moosy ruined my mafia game here, i was pissed most of the game and didnt want to check in. Bad Moosy | ||
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On October 15 2015 08:19 Superbia wrote: To third party I implore you to shoot moosy (if he's not in your faction) or who you think is mafia tonight. Let me explain: Mafia can roll over town and you here if moosy ends up being town (near impossible) or 3p. If moosy is either of these, they will put their save on moosy and both town and yourself (3rd party) is going to be fucked: - Town will be forced to lynch moosy d2. - Mafia will be immortal to your kp n2 because of it (mafia doctor can save himself). I.e.: You will be in a shit situation. You must have already realized that you are in a shit situation compared to mafia, as you essentially cannot touch them during the night. They are stronger than you. If moosy is town (again, very unlikely) OR 3p, mafia will go for this play tonight. This means that they are (50%) vulnerable to your KP tonight. This is your chance. Shoot mafia. And if moosy is mafia you guarantee his death anyway. Well, I won't complain if they follow this... haha | ||
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On October 15 2015 20:36 Koshi wrote: He should die. And he should die fast. CPR, mafia, 3p. Shoot Xatalos. He is a threat. Do you think I'm a blue or something? What's with calling me a "threat" rather than anti-town? | ||
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On October 15 2015 20:40 deconduo wrote: Koshi is scum for this btw. - Lynching groupie doesn't remove them from the game, it just stops them from posting in the thread - Therefore lynching groupie is the same as a no-lynch - Therefore Koshi is pushing the fact that a no-lynch is pro-town - Therefore Koshi is scum. Are you saying you're the groupie >.> wat | ||
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deconduo: Oh, I see. Still I'm not really sure how you came to be certain that Moosy is specifically a groupie? | ||
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Thanks for the laughs Koshi. | ||
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I think Slam also said something similar, but he's always unfathomable and otherwise feels townish(?), so it's hard to say about him. | ||
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Frankly, you just seem to twist anything and everything about me in a negative light. Straight from my very first post. Either you're town in an extreme tunnel or just anti-town. Actually starting to lean a bit more towards anti-town since the tunnel has been so "pre-set" and static. In either case, it's getting harder for me to take you seriously. | ||
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Koshi: town. He's been posting very actively and pushed a lot of different issues in the thread. Totally unfocused on his own appearance and without any apparent agenda, his motivation simply seems to be playing the game. He's even been pushing Mafia/3P to attack each other - something no anti-town would want to happen from the opposing faction. Alakaslam: town. Just something about his presence in the thread feeling completely non-forced. Hard to explain, but I'm leaning a lot more towards town at this point. Sylencia: anti-town. Has felt very detached from the game all around. It just kind of feels like he has no interest towards solving the game, but towards blending in somehow. MoosyDoosy: anti-town. Probably. At least his play has been anti-town, and totally unproductive even while posting quite a bit. Tictock: anti-town(?). It's been difficult to get a grasp on him. At times it seems like he's really thinking about stuff, but then... Mostly I've felt odd about his continuous tunnel on me. It's like it's even too "certain", as in decided beforehand and then just focused on cherry-picking whatever could make me anti-town. It's not "definitely" anti-town, but it's a strong possibility. Rels: town(?)... It's not as strong as I felt initially, but he's continued push forward good posts. If he's town, he's probably dying during N1/N2 anyway. I see no way to put him as a lynch candidate at least. GlowingBear: town(?). Not a strong read, he's just seemed all around decent to me. Should take another look though. Rest: null. Can't say I have a meaningful read either way on anyone else atm. Absolutely no idea about deconduo or gobble... Or really Onegu for that matter. Superbia would need a closer look tomorrow. - - - - - Well, looks like I was pretty wrong looking at the kills... I guess there's a lot to re-evaluate. Probably the anti-town factions were searching for other anti-town/blues with those hits, but we were lucky. It's also quite possible that CPR killed MoosyDoosy and one of the other kills was protected against through a role (either town/anti-town). | ||
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On October 16 2015 08:10 Koshi wrote: God damn Xatalos you better be mafia or I am sucking donkey balls. ? | ||
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On October 16 2015 08:12 Superbia wrote: Parity cop never fucking claims today unless there's like hard scum on him. Parity cop is useless until tomorrow. Yeah, that's true. | ||
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Well, you should probably ask the Crossfire. | ||
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On October 16 2015 08:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: Town. In my opinion TT was the most pro-town player in this game. hands down. \o/ He mostly pushed me though | ||
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On October 16 2015 08:53 Superbia wrote: Moosy nothing personal but I have no idea what you were doing this game btw. Haha | ||
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On October 15 2015 21:58 Koshi wrote: Ok no. nvm. It is too retarded. HOW CAN YOU KNOW SOMEBODY IS THE GROUPIE AND NOT MAFIA? HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU DECIDE SOMEBODY IS ANTITOWN BUT ISN'T "IMPORTANT" ANTITOWN??????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????? YOU ARE EITHER FULLBLOWN BRAINDAMAGED. ORRRRRRR YOU ARE SO FAR UP YOUR ASS BULLSHITTING AS MAFIA YOU CAN'T MAKE ANY SENSE ANYMORE. Seriously. HOW THE LIVING FUCK CAN YOU IDENTIFY SOMEBODY AS ANTI TOWN BUT YOU JUST KNOW THAT HE ISN'T AN IMPORTANT ROLE?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Then you proceed to call somebody mafia for not understanding how not only you could identify somebody as antitown, you could actually identify his fucking role. It's like somebody saying "I don't want to lynch X because he is a goon, better lynch Y because he is Roleblocker". OMG you are so fucking mafia because you want to lynch mafia goon and not mafia Roleblocker. FUCKING BEYOND RETARDED. Important Disclaimer: In case you are actually town I apologize and will donate to an organisation helping mentally disabled people playing mafia. Important Disclaimer II: In case you are town and you are actually right about this groupie thing you are still mentally braindamaged for wanting to kill somebody who wants to kill antitown. Instead of proving that he is a groupie without any doubt. Thanks again for this post btw. I actually laughed while reading it. That doesn't happen often :D | ||
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On October 16 2015 09:00 Superbia wrote: I mainly wanted to push you and see some emotion. Oh. Well, maybe you would have gotten it if I was about to be lynched. I kind of didn't want to break my non-lynchable (as town) record of like 10-20 games lol | ||
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Tictock: yeah that "3 games in a row" thing was probably the worst reason for a read I've ever seen You should note that it's exactly equally likely for someone to roll scum regardless of their previous roles haha... Sorry that I didn't respond to you properly, but I guess I was just a bit annoyed by the constant push and had some doubt about your motivations as well so... I think I would have been able to do something D2, but this game was just very difficult for me for some reason or another. And Slam... really, I guess I'll never be able to read him. gobble/Onegu were possible lynches for me though so maybe I would have noticed them better during D2. Rels played well too and fooled me initially with the high effort. | ||
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