EPT[M][T] Crossfire Mafia
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I truly hope the VT claims are from anti-town parties / blues since otherwise it's just, frankly, playing against your win condition. It'd be preferable if nobody claimed roles D1 or even after that without good reason. On October 13 2015 08:15 Koshi wrote: Town. Going to go with a plynch all liars through the entire game. Will totally ruin the game because town are lying bitches. But I will do it. If nobody lies I will use spidersenses. 4 antitown. Way too much anti town kp. First days are a joke. If there are 9 townies who need to lynch 4 anti townies while these antitownies got 4 kp and are immune to the other antitownies their kp the game is a total joke. There are also way to many blue roles. Blue roles with completely random effects based on the skill of the player. So tbh. If I try and lynch anti town D1 I will just get rewarded with a bullet and anti town will start shooting town faster than we can lynch anti town. Doesn't make any fucking sense. tldr 1: Koshi is going to do absolutely nothing the first days because the game looks like a joke. He might say some random shit about random people. He will appreciate it that when these random people are actually anti town that they won't shoot Koshi. tldr2: Read tldr 1 This felt a bit wrong to me. What I mean is the fact that Koshi was primarily concerned about his own life and while saying that town's position is bad (which should lead to the conclusion that it's time to play well), he concludes that he's going to lurk.. Which left me with the feeling that rather than having good lynches, he just wanted to avoid getting shot. The strongest motivation for that would be if he's anti-town. It's still possible that he's blue or something, but if that's the case, then it's pretty bad play to announce your survival instinct so clearly (making it less likely that you're a VT). Also Koshi: I don't agree that town is underpowered. The anti-towns can kill each other as well, and we have 2 (kind of) Medics in the game. Well, it is a bit random that way. | ||
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On October 13 2015 08:19 Koshi wrote: ##vote MoosyDoosy Isn't doing shit. Just sitting here idle. Mafia or anti town but for sure afraid to die. Meh... Why are you saying this as your reason when you just said yourself that you're afraid to die? | ||
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I've played my couple of last games on Vendetta Strada. Last time I played here... Was this one I think: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/484076-assassination-mafia Yeah I agree that Slam is feeling very carefree/relaxed. Which usually leans towards town... How did you come to that townread list btw? | ||
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Hm. I guess I can understand your point of view. It's a little bit too elaborate to be a fake frustration? | ||
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On October 13 2015 20:00 Koshi wrote: Seriously Xatalos. The explanation is standing in the damn vote. Moosy did completely nothing. He could be town doing completely nothing. Or he could be mafia doing completely nothing. Town sometimes adds some silly plan in their first post, or try to do something. Mafia doesn't have do to shit so sometimes they forget they actually need to pretend to be town in the start. Moosy didn't do shit. Hence. He could be mafia. Still didn't do shit when I poked him to do shit. Passive as fuck. Defensive. ezgame. I am reading this forum on TL Dota so I have no filters. But I am probably 100% right. I got the opposite picture? He didn't really do anything, but he seemed pretty relaxed despite your attack (not defensive / worried). And I think Mafia very rarely just "forget they need to pretend to look town". Rather, it's much more likely that Mafia do something at least resembling an okayish starter while townies often just explode. | ||
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On October 13 2015 19:58 Superbia wrote: I clicked myself and deleted myself.  Haha, looks like you added yourself back in | ||
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On October 13 2015 20:09 Xatalos wrote: ##Vote: Sylencia Oh yeah... This was mostly because I disliked his style of just cautiously/briefly popping into the thread to make some semi-useless comment, then disappear. That and the fact that others who had posted so far had at least something town-leaning going for them. | ||
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On October 13 2015 20:17 Koshi wrote: Everything you wrote here has nothing to do with the current situation. You even fucking contradict your read on Moosy and your expectation what a townie would do. Sure. Some mafia make an OK starting post. Those are the mafia that understand that to look townie you need to start doing some minor shit. The shit mafia or trash 3p don't do that. Moosy didn't do that HENCE he is mafia. QED Looking "Not worried" and "not defensive" is not alignment indicative at all. I gave him a reason to do something. Instead he continued to do nothing. Like literally nothing. Could Moosy be town that decided to do literally nothing? Sure. He could be. Do I care? No. Was he my best bet on mafia? Yes. Is he still my best bet of mafia? Maybe, depends if this Xatalos guy decides to play dumb. I don't think that "doing something" or "playing according to someone else's wishes" is what makes someone townie, especially in the first page of the game or so. What could he have been "doing" exactly? The game had just started. What really matters is the consistency and motivation of someone's posts. Let's see... As scum, he would have plenty of motivation to appease someone that just started accusing him, or misdirect the attention away, or something. He would likely show some sort of inconsistency when the situation suddenly changes. Instead, he continued doing whatever meaningless he was doing. He wasn't panicked about the situation, and his attitude was consistent. That's why I got the gut feeling he was town. | ||
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On October 13 2015 20:21 Superbia wrote: Xatalos, who would you want to kill right now? (besides me for hacking your voting tool, apparently :D) Sylencia I guess, like I explained earlier. Many haven't even posted yet though. | ||
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On October 13 2015 20:25 Koshi wrote: WE WERE 5 MINUTES IN THE GAME. YOU W0T M8?????????????????????????? I repeat the question: what do you think he should have been "doing" at that time? You constantly insult "tryhards", but when someone doesn't tryhard in the first minutes of the game, he's 100% scum. That's the kind of inconsistency in attitude I don't like :/ | ||
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