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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 13 2015 23:52 GMT
#388
On October 14 2015 08:50 Koshi wrote:
3p will for example scumhunt to not get lynched but will generally not be the most vocal scumhunter because he fears a bullet from mafia. But in theory he could do anything. His wincon is surviving.


It's not. Phone isn't letting me quote the OP but check it out.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 13 2015 23:54 GMT
#391
On October 14 2015 08:53 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 08:52 GlowingBear wrote:
3p has KP and has the same win condition as mafia. I don't really see a difference

They play different. TMI is a powerful thing.



Sorry, what is TMI? Too much insight?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 13 2015 23:56 GMT
#394
Koshi, third parties received a QT, it's in the OP
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 13 2015 23:56 GMT
#395
Lol
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 13 2015 23:59 GMT
#397
On October 14 2015 08:57 Koshi wrote:
yeah. True. So they will probably protect each other. w.e
This game is truly wtf.

4 mafia with 2 kp

Why the fuck bother.


Mechanics are actually pretty neat. Read the roles and you'll see the clusterfuck night kills will be.

To be honest roles and mechanics can cause different behaviours that we are used to
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 14 2015 00:02 GMT
#399
On October 14 2015 08:17 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm just going to vote for Superbia for now. There are reasons that Koshi and gobbledygook CAN be town but Superbia is def scum right now. I think GB + CC + Slam should already realize how different his play is. I will relook into Rels if it becomes necessary.

Also Rels, your case is terrible because A. you used meta and tone when you know you're terrible at meta and tone and you played only 1 game with him when I played like 3 or something close to that. B. also, the only thing that TicTock can be scumread for right now is that he was fence sitting but that's super weak because it was in the first half of D1 so that's a terrible reason as well.

tl;dr your case is bad and TicTock looks town. So change your vote.

oh yeah and before I forget I have a weird itch on Xata which I'll go over later. I think it had something to do with townreading me and something else in conjunction to make magical baby combinations.


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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 14 2015 00:03 GMT
#401
On October 14 2015 08:59 Koshi wrote:
Moosy
Sylencia
Superbia

These 3. Good start to lynch and CPR.


You think cop cake is town?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 14 2015 00:05 GMT
#402
On October 14 2015 09:02 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 08:59 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 14 2015 08:57 Koshi wrote:
yeah. True. So they will probably protect each other. w.e
This game is truly wtf.

4 mafia with 2 kp

Why the fuck bother.


Mechanics are actually pretty neat. Read the roles and you'll see the clusterfuck night kills will be.

To be honest roles and mechanics can cause different behaviours that we are used to

Nope. The game is not rewarding at all for town. While mafia and 3p only get rewarded if they survive and never punished for following their wincon.

If town lynches anti town each day they can still lose. CPR is a shitty role, should have been a cop that couldn't be protected by the town medic.


I wouldn't call a vigilante with unlimited bullets that can kill scum/save a townie on LYLO a bad role.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 14 2015 00:14 GMT
#405
On October 14 2015 09:10 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 09:03 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 14 2015 08:59 Koshi wrote:
Moosy
Sylencia
Superbia

These 3. Good start to lynch and CPR.


You think cop cake is town?

Yes.


What makes you think so? I see her as likely scum
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 14 2015 00:54 GMT
#417
On October 14 2015 09:42 Koshi wrote:
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On October 14 2015 09:22 Koshi wrote:
anti town can just pretend to scumhunt the other anti town party. This is so fucking silly tbh.

It's not even pretending. Their actual goal during dayphase is to lynch anti town. The fact that they need to make a fake "you are mafia" case on somebody they know isn't is completely removed.


Literally 13 people in this thread are looking for people who are not town. 4 people in this thread know the alignment of 1 other guy they can ignore for the most part.


Koshi, but if you're scum you know you must survive and if you drive a lynch on someone who is an opposing faction you might get shot at night. So what do you do? You just lay back and vote with thread sentiment.

This is how scum hunting in this game differs from other games. And this is exactly what you wanted to do. Thus, my vote on you.

I think you're complaining too much about the setup without actually thinking about it. Makes me wonder if you're not simply scum trying to waste discussion or just douchebag town
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 14 2015 00:59 GMT
#418
On October 13 2015 19:24 Xatalos wrote:
Btw if you want to see the up-to-date votecount then it's here at all times: https://mafia-votecount.herokuapp.com/#495390-crossfire-mafia

I truly hope the VT claims are from anti-town parties / blues since otherwise it's just, frankly, playing against your win condition. It'd be preferable if nobody claimed roles D1 or even after that without good reason.

Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 08:15 Koshi wrote:
Town.

Going to go with a plynch all liars through the entire game. Will totally ruin the game because town are lying bitches. But I will do it.

If nobody lies I will use spidersenses.

4 antitown. Way too much anti town kp. First days are a joke.

If there are 9 townies who need to lynch 4 anti townies while these antitownies got 4 kp and are immune to the other antitownies their kp the game is a total joke.

There are also way to many blue roles. Blue roles with completely random effects based on the skill of the player.


So tbh. If I try and lynch anti town D1 I will just get rewarded with a bullet and anti town will start shooting town faster than we can lynch anti town. Doesn't make any fucking sense.



tldr 1: Koshi is going to do absolutely nothing the first days because the game looks like a joke. He might say some random shit about random people. He will appreciate it that when these random people are actually anti town that they won't shoot Koshi.

tldr2: Read tldr 1


This felt a bit wrong to me. What I mean is the fact that Koshi was primarily concerned about his own life and while saying that town's position is bad (which should lead to the conclusion that it's time to play well), he concludes that he's going to lurk.. Which left me with the feeling that rather than having good lynches, he just wanted to avoid getting shot. The strongest motivation for that would be if he's anti-town. It's still possible that he's blue or something, but if that's the case, then it's pretty bad play to announce your survival instinct so clearly (making it less likely that you're a VT).

Also Koshi: I don't agree that town is underpowered. The anti-towns can kill each other as well, and we have 2 (kind of) Medics in the game. Well, it is a bit random that way.


BWAHAHA I just got back to page 7 to read stuff with more focus and saw this.

So Xata already caught on that and said it out loud. LOL.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 14 2015 01:05 GMT
#419
On October 13 2015 20:15 Superbia wrote:
Actually not going to post my post. Had a nice little theory written up about how I think both mafia and third party will play this game. Going to post it later (mayb n1) after people have "played". ;p


This makes me think Superbia is town
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 14 2015 01:10 GMT
#421
On October 14 2015 10:08 Sylencia wrote:
Also pretty sure unless town plays catastrophically bad, we have a pretty good shot of winning considering 3p is almost half a team, mafia team is stronger but is balanced by only having 2 people and in addition maf/3p can end up killing each other anyways. If the parity cop miraculously survives to D3 then that single comparison check should be good enough to carry us through the rest of the game.

tl;dr 9:2:2 is still fine even if it goes down to like 3:2:2 w/ 1+ power role after 2 days


This also makes me think you're town.

I don't know if I'm happy today but I'm having too many lean townreads on day1. Which marv and JAT hates. But I am.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 14 2015 01:20 GMT
#423
On October 14 2015 10:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 09:59 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 13 2015 19:24 Xatalos wrote:
Btw if you want to see the up-to-date votecount then it's here at all times: https://mafia-votecount.herokuapp.com/#495390-crossfire-mafia

I truly hope the VT claims are from anti-town parties / blues since otherwise it's just, frankly, playing against your win condition. It'd be preferable if nobody claimed roles D1 or even after that without good reason.

On October 13 2015 08:15 Koshi wrote:
Town.

Going to go with a plynch all liars through the entire game. Will totally ruin the game because town are lying bitches. But I will do it.

If nobody lies I will use spidersenses.

4 antitown. Way too much anti town kp. First days are a joke.

If there are 9 townies who need to lynch 4 anti townies while these antitownies got 4 kp and are immune to the other antitownies their kp the game is a total joke.

There are also way to many blue roles. Blue roles with completely random effects based on the skill of the player.


So tbh. If I try and lynch anti town D1 I will just get rewarded with a bullet and anti town will start shooting town faster than we can lynch anti town. Doesn't make any fucking sense.



tldr 1: Koshi is going to do absolutely nothing the first days because the game looks like a joke. He might say some random shit about random people. He will appreciate it that when these random people are actually anti town that they won't shoot Koshi.

tldr2: Read tldr 1


This felt a bit wrong to me. What I mean is the fact that Koshi was primarily concerned about his own life and while saying that town's position is bad (which should lead to the conclusion that it's time to play well), he concludes that he's going to lurk.. Which left me with the feeling that rather than having good lynches, he just wanted to avoid getting shot. The strongest motivation for that would be if he's anti-town. It's still possible that he's blue or something, but if that's the case, then it's pretty bad play to announce your survival instinct so clearly (making it less likely that you're a VT).

Also Koshi: I don't agree that town is underpowered. The anti-towns can kill each other as well, and we have 2 (kind of) Medics in the game. Well, it is a bit random that way.


BWAHAHA I just got back to page 7 to read stuff with more focus and saw this.

So Xata already caught on that and said it out loud. LOL.

Read my "terrible" list post you dumb bear.


?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 14 2015 01:27 GMT
#424
~town~

Superbia
Alakaslam
Xatalos
Tictock


~null~

Sylencia
Koshi
Rels
Onegu
deconduo


~scum (includes 3p)~

CopCake
gobbledydook
MoosyDoosy


This is somewhat where I'm at.

For some reason I feel my reads are pretty shit, tho.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 14 2015 01:36 GMT
#431
On October 14 2015 10:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 10:20 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 14 2015 10:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 14 2015 09:59 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 13 2015 19:24 Xatalos wrote:
Btw if you want to see the up-to-date votecount then it's here at all times: https://mafia-votecount.herokuapp.com/#495390-crossfire-mafia

I truly hope the VT claims are from anti-town parties / blues since otherwise it's just, frankly, playing against your win condition. It'd be preferable if nobody claimed roles D1 or even after that without good reason.

On October 13 2015 08:15 Koshi wrote:
Town.

Going to go with a plynch all liars through the entire game. Will totally ruin the game because town are lying bitches. But I will do it.

If nobody lies I will use spidersenses.

4 antitown. Way too much anti town kp. First days are a joke.

If there are 9 townies who need to lynch 4 anti townies while these antitownies got 4 kp and are immune to the other antitownies their kp the game is a total joke.

There are also way to many blue roles. Blue roles with completely random effects based on the skill of the player.


So tbh. If I try and lynch anti town D1 I will just get rewarded with a bullet and anti town will start shooting town faster than we can lynch anti town. Doesn't make any fucking sense.



tldr 1: Koshi is going to do absolutely nothing the first days because the game looks like a joke. He might say some random shit about random people. He will appreciate it that when these random people are actually anti town that they won't shoot Koshi.

tldr2: Read tldr 1


This felt a bit wrong to me. What I mean is the fact that Koshi was primarily concerned about his own life and while saying that town's position is bad (which should lead to the conclusion that it's time to play well), he concludes that he's going to lurk.. Which left me with the feeling that rather than having good lynches, he just wanted to avoid getting shot. The strongest motivation for that would be if he's anti-town. It's still possible that he's blue or something, but if that's the case, then it's pretty bad play to announce your survival instinct so clearly (making it less likely that you're a VT).

Also Koshi: I don't agree that town is underpowered. The anti-towns can kill each other as well, and we have 2 (kind of) Medics in the game. Well, it is a bit random that way.


BWAHAHA I just got back to page 7 to read stuff with more focus and saw this.

So Xata already caught on that and said it out loud. LOL.

Read my "terrible" list post you dumb bear.


?

-sighs-

Koshi trying to act like super townie and dumbing down town's chances and showing how hopeless it is for town draws so much attention to himself to the extent where I don't think he can be town. The closest reason I can think of for him to be doing this is if he has an anti-KP role or if he's a Fanatic Groupie who I believe can't die. (Or is it that they only don't die to lynches? I'm not too sure) Either way, I thought it was really weird for Koshi to crash into the gates yelling that town has no chance and causing such a ruckus.


Fanatic Groupie just can keep voting after they die.

It amazes me that you call him a role you don't know what it is.
+ Show Spoiler +
exactly what I did on Assassination but shhhh


Ok, I don't like his attitude regarding this but you must understand that no scum wants to draw attention even if they can vote after they die (well, if you have the groupie's alignment, it's easier to find out who his partner is, so why risk dying anyway?). You can't see why town would do that? Ok. But I can't see why mafia would do that either. Unless it's a stupid mafia. And I don't think Koshi is stupid.

Care to explain the other reads on your list post?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 14 2015 01:39 GMT
#433
On October 14 2015 10:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GB, I think you should find it stranger if I actually know what a role does lol. I didn’t even know what Town Roleblocker did in our last game and I was the role.


Yeah, it's amazing LOL you should read the OP more closely.

This is not influencing my read on you, tho. I know you could make this as both alignments.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 14 2015 01:45 GMT
#437
On October 14 2015 10:41 CopCake wrote:
I love how GB is not fighting me.

YOU ARE NOT TOWN BABE


It's a waste of time if you don't bring real reasons to scum read me
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 14 2015 01:47 GMT
#441
On October 14 2015 08:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 08:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:
okie I am back and around. As a note I refuse to participate in any lynch on my Chupazi master Alakaslam unless there is glaring evidence he is not town.

mmm...down to work. Basically people I don't like this far.

gobbledygook - terrible posts so far
Superbia - acting nothing like town and doing nothing for the thread
Koshi - there’s no reason to make a long post about how town will kill themselves. That’s just drawing way way too much attention to himself. I don’t think he’s scum so…fanatic groupie? maybe.

GlowingBear - I might have to revisit this.
Rels - terrible case on TicTock and terrible conclusions that he’s drawing.
deconduo - the way he got his reads was so bad it was o-o
CopCake - eh idk. she had some good thoughts but if she continues to not care then that’s a super scum read.


Ok this is one of the worst posts so far and I will completely flip my read on you

##Unvote
##Vote: MoosyDoosy


You can't possibly believe in ANYTHING you're saying here.
You don't like me but you need to revisit me. Ok but why you don't like me?
Why does gobble looks terrible?
Your conclusion on Koshi is the worst possible. Fanatic groupie? What??
Why is the case on tic tock horrible?
What was bad on the way deconduo got reads?

And the best one:

CAKE HAS UNEXPLAINED READS. HOW THE HELL DOES SHE HAD GOOD THOUGHTS????


Basically, answer all these questions
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 14 2015 01:51 GMT
#444
On October 14 2015 03:45 CopCake wrote:
Rels and GB being like I suspect GB but I still answer glowing bear questions.

NO FUCKING WAY, you two are also mafia, take back my GB townread.



You're calling me mafia off of an unflipped association. More than that, instead of going after the root of your association, you're going against the consequential read.

I can't take this seriously
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