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On September 16 2015 08:27 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 08:21 Damdred wrote: Anyway I'm like 95% sure that my bro shining is scrum he was the first filter I looked at. He is just so... emotionless to a point and he barely reacts to the thread to a point with pretty posts that seem to be structured. He explained he's not a fan of playing much D1. Did that factor into your scumread or are you just not buying that explanation period? Idk if that's even a good excuse though? Like, I'm not sure how much store to put by a purely 'emotion'-based scum read in forum Mafia, but at the same time I would say generally not wanting to play an entire day is pretty scummy. Thats what annoys me so much about certain players on this forum, they just coast through the early game and leave town basically fucked when it comes to trying to read them late game.
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yeah but that is indicative of a casual interest as opposed to a burning fire
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let's get back on track to trying to find scum
can anyone explain the case on the shining? i see he has a few votes on him
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On September 16 2015 08:21 Damdred wrote: If I'm going to be honest with you I really haven't read much if any of the game at this point besides where I posted yesterday just now I started rolling through filters of my favorite people.
I had an early town read on geript and Ryan though. Slight town read on eels though.
Anyway I'm like 95% sure that my bro shining is scrum he was the first filter I looked at. He is just so... emotionless to a point and he barely reacts to the thread to a point with pretty posts that seem to be structured.
Picks easy townreads in Rayn and Rels then scums me for being emotionless? LoL. What are your reads on anyone else, Damdred?
I'm glad you think my posts are pretty but you missed one key thing if this is my "scum" meta. If we've played so many games together between here and other forums(which 60-90 games seems a bit high of an estimate, did you just throw that number out there to strengthen your meta read?), you would know that every time I'm town, I'm paranoid of you and your strong scum game, when you put your mind to it. I almost never town you(like now), and you usually end up being the one realizing its my town game when everyone else is trying to lynch me for it.
LoL since you know me, you would know I've been in anger management and in control of my emotions the last few weeks since my last blow up =P sorry I'm not angsty Shining this time around. But you scumming me for a crap meta read is going to get me to that point pretty quickly. Sorry bro, you're my #1 scum now.
Fidei is likely town, even though I personally hate WoTs. I guess I can't judge this time around, though. However, I'd like to address the part about hating people not wanting to play early and point out that I am playing and giving reads...I'm not sure what else you'd like me to do? Do jumping jacks yelling "I'M TOWN" all up and down the thread? Just because I don't like playing D1 doesn't mean I don't actually play D1.
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On September 16 2015 09:43 Bill Murray wrote: let's get back on track to trying to find scum
can anyone explain the case on the shining? i see he has a few votes on him
I see one early vote from Rels for not liking my entrance and he then later said I may be cool. And Damdred's is purely meta-emotional based. I have exactly 1 scum game on TL, as a newb, so you can compare if you'd like.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475036-student-mafia-v?user=The Shining
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On September 16 2015 08:08 Half the Sky wrote:Shining looks better based on his re-entry and LS's responses to me (particularly the reads) also make him look a little better. There is one thing I noticed in his filter though. LS could you answer this? Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 03:50 LightningStrike wrote:On September 16 2015 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: LightningStrike do you have any other scumreads than geript? Damdred he only made like 2-3 posts and 1 is him saying I could be mafia without any explanation at all which is so unlike him at all when he's town. Rels could be town but Ticktock null I need to reread his filter when I get home. Rayn I think your town I was just being a jackass earlier regarding you I'm sorry what can I do to make up for it? "Rels could be town" I know I told you to ignore Rels before but given how Rels is nearly universally townread, given your wording what is giving you pause about Rels?
Since I look better based on my re-entry, would you mind addressing my points against you? If you could help me feel better about you, that'd be great. Because you seem to have read my post but you didn't mention anything about me calling you out for playing with me before but not picking up on my not liking D1 and not really playing Mondays/Tuesdays, although you mentioned my not liking D1 to Damdred.
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On September 15 2015 14:29 Tictock wrote: As for the grail vote, I dont trust anyone enough to give it to just yet.
Leery of giving it to damdred already both because he seems to sorta want it and because he's suggesting he knows he can keep ahold of it for awhile. Slight scumlean.
Shining is cool for suggesting an alternate topic of discussion, townlean.
On September 15 2015 19:28 Tictock wrote:Well I'm also waiting on HtS to make an entrance, but I have to head to work soon. I'm not sold on his read, but I'll admit Rels has done good open post cases before. TS might be someone to keep an eye on.I'm not sure I like BM. This was an odd explanation to throwing out a townread on rayn. Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 10:29 Bill Murray wrote: well you're the first person in any game if we're both in the game that im going to try to get a read on because you usually have something important going on
Assuming the TS here is me(The Shining), I'm starting to like Tictock less and less. Especially because I really like this post here:
On September 16 2015 08:24 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 06:19 Tictock wrote: Ok caught up.
Pretty ok with BM and LS now.
Overall liked the responses LS gave to people pushing him and most of his reads are decent.
BM for poking and prodding and his reads remind me a little of his game in NSM X? XI? where he gave a brief flurry of activity before afking until mislynched.
Lol at people reading me scum for "getting townreads then dissapearing" no way did I disappear kus of RL, such as leaving for work as I mentioned in a post.
Oh and leaning town on HtS pretty hard. I noticed you don't have any scumreads - the bolded was related to what FF said about you. Are you scumreading him now? If not, where do you stand on him?
I also kind of agreed with FF there. But TT's lack of scumreads worry me, too. And he went from townlean on me for my entrance to "keep an eye on me" without giving any reason why, as if he was just setting up to follow town sentiment, which was not liking my entrance at that time. I had made no posts or said anything else to change his read on me.
Damdred, TT or Dandel lynch for me today.
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not seeing the case on the shining
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I don't get Damdred's case. But shining is in an odd middle ground between his town meta and scum meta.
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I'd also like elaboration on why shining is mafia he seems fine to me now that he's been back
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On September 16 2015 11:57 Bill Murray wrote: why? Mix of things. He's quoting stuff, but it's not how i remember him consciously quoting and leading off of it. What he says doesn't come off as "smart" to me when most of the things he says usually are pretty solid when he's town. But he's also more active than he has been as scum.
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is it the difference in townie and role play?
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Idk. I don't think I've seen him as a role before. And usually role play looks far more red to me (for many im red/blue blind). But idk why being a role would affect it unless he's got one of the odd roles like acolyte or wraith that newer players could construe as having a purpose. Plus, it's an 'all blue' setup technically. So rolling blue is far more vt-like I think.
Tldr I don't think so and I don't think it'd matter
I'll check back during my drug testand lunch etc. but I really won't have time to do much.
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On September 16 2015 14:26 geript wrote: Idk. I don't think I've seen him as a role before. And usually role play looks far more red to me (for many im red/blue blind). But idk why being a role would affect it unless he's got one of the odd roles like acolyte or wraith that newer players could construe as having a purpose. Plus, it's an 'all blue' setup technically. So rolling blue is far more vt-like I think.
Tldr I don't think so and I don't think it'd matter
I'll check back during my drug testand lunch etc. but I really won't have time to do much. drug test? ouch
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hello everyone (= rereading carefully what I missed last night
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OK LS. I will try to explain what I think so we can understand each other this time. Everybody seems to have drop the scumread on you, and I understand. Your posts really show anger at being scumread, then free of mind where you're not anymore. Please, if you're town, read carefully what others are saying, 'cause it's super frustrating to not be understood. I'll ask you two questions that need elaboration to answer, so take the time to do this right.
1. You said to HTS "some of the posts" you did this game were posts you would never make as scum. Can you show me a few example and explain to me why you wouldn't post that as scum ?
2. Your geript scumread is interesting, 'cause of the following: my reason for townreading geript was that I thought you were scum, and I didn't think geript would bus this early in the game. Now obviously if you're town, this push on you isn't alignment indicative anymore. What you are saying is that geript lied to explain his vote on you. You're saying this is a lie:
On September 15 2015 10:46 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote: So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all? When he's town he'll still follow the leader, but he'll generally over talk about a random reason he's thought against it. A less than LS question. Can you prove this is a lie ? For example, you talked about a game where you didn't do this. Was geript in this game or obsing this game ?
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On September 16 2015 08:24 Half the Sky wrote: I noticed you don't have any scumreads - the bolded was related to what FF said about you. Are you scumreading him now? If not, where do you stand on him?
Huh? I've put a few of those out there.
On September 15 2015 14:29 Tictock wrote: Leery of giving it to damdred already both because he seems to sorta want it and because he's suggesting he knows he can keep ahold of it for awhile. Slight scumlean.
On September 15 2015 18:23 Tictock wrote: LS is a fine lynch.
Giving an excuse, then wanting to "get down to buisness", followed by such a null question.
yep yep Oh someone said that this post was a sheep of thread sentiment. I agreed with the push on LS, he had 2 posts at the time... so not like I'm going to post a 3 paragraph case. I'm not sure what more you'd expect from me in that, I was just stating that I supported that lynch at the time.
On September 15 2015 19:28 Tictock wrote:I'm not sure I like BM. This was an odd explanation to throwing out a townread on rayn. Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 10:29 Bill Murray wrote: well you're the first person in any game if we're both in the game that im going to try to get a read on because you usually have something important going on
So I definitely have been making some scum reads. If they aren't good enough for you kus I haven't pushed them enough or some thing... well I don't give a shit honestly. I'm taking my time doing my thing.
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About BM: he did the same thing as HTS; catching up with the thread and making his reads evolved. His thought process is clearly stated in the thread and understandable. And I loved how he simply said "well I don't have any scumread". =D I'm pretty sure BM is town. @BM a question though: why did you think rayn was 100% town based on his first posts ?
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On September 16 2015 03:40 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 03:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay i seriously think BM is town now. BM i don't think your read on Rels is accurate, i think he is quite obviously town. I will re-evaluate TT tomorrow, but i still think he is town. I think FF has a decent chance of being mafia. well even if i think they might be town i want to break up their buddy buddy circlejerk why the hate! Come in and be part of it (=
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