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On September 16 2015 17:04 Tictock wrote:Fidei can you explain why you say this Show nested quote +I think Lightning Strike is town, and I think the early push on him was suspect. Why do you find the push to be suspect? Keep in mind people were pushing him as mafia when these were his only 2 posts: Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 07:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I don't have much time atm but I'm here and Town so let's get down to business! Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all?
Two reasons:
1. (And this is likely to get the Rayn hate, but w/e) I actually understand where LS is coming from on this. I've never played this setup before, and Rayn comes in and says that there is only one correct way to play the martyr. I'm naturally suspicious of those sorts of claims - most roles in Mafia are nuanced enough to have multiple uses. If I'm the martyr here and, say, HTS or some other really strong town is the NK target, I probably think it's worth to sacrifice myself, because then they get another day. Particularly if the martyr honestly assesses themselves as a weak town player.
2. It's LS. Pretty much every game I've been in has had a wagon start on him (or ruxx pretending to be him) for appearing 'naive' or disagreeing with a strong town player. No offence LS, but you're probably the easiest ml out there. Jumping on him for a pretty innocuous question just seems really opportunistic.
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On September 16 2015 17:29 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 17:20 Rels wrote:On September 16 2015 17:07 Tictock wrote:
Rels since your around...
What are your current thoughts on Damdred and Fidei?
Also what do you make of geript so far?
I think geript is pretty null right now, and it seems really odd to me that rayn is townreading him so hard. Am I missing something? I'm catching up with the thread. I think you'll find my last two posts interesting though. (= geript may be scum. I thought he was town 'cause he had the same reaction as me (and quite a few people) about LS, and I thought he wouldn't bus this early. But now I think LS may be town actually, so I have no reasons to think he's town. Ok cool. Regarding bussing, LS made a really good point that it doesn't make any sense for mafia to buss their teammates in this format. There is 0 towncred to be gained since we don't get flips, so purposefully bussing a teammate is pretty bad mafia play this game.
That's exactly why I thought geript couldn't be mafia if LS was. HTS thought otherwise, but I didn't agree.
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On September 16 2015 10:33 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 14:29 Tictock wrote:
As for the grail vote, I dont trust anyone enough to give it to just yet.
Leery of giving it to damdred already both because he seems to sorta want it and because he's suggesting he knows he can keep ahold of it for awhile. Slight scumlean.
Shining is cool for suggesting an alternate topic of discussion, townlean. Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 19:28 Tictock wrote:Well I'm also waiting on HtS to make an entrance, but I have to head to work soon. I'm not sold on his read, but I'll admit Rels has done good open post cases before. TS might be someone to keep an eye on.I'm not sure I like BM. This was an odd explanation to throwing out a townread on rayn. On September 15 2015 10:29 Bill Murray wrote:
well you're the first person in any game if we're both in the game that im going to try to get a read on because you usually have something important going on Assuming the TS here is me(The Shining), I'm starting to like Tictock less and less. Especially because I really like this post here: Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 08:24 Half the Sky wrote:On September 16 2015 06:19 Tictock wrote:
Ok caught up.
Pretty ok with BM and LS now.
Overall liked the responses LS gave to people pushing him and most of his reads are decent.
BM for poking and prodding and his reads remind me a little of his game in NSM X? XI? where he gave a brief flurry of activity before afking until mislynched.
Lol at people reading me scum for "getting townreads then dissapearing" no way did I disappear kus of RL, such as leaving for work as I mentioned in a post.
Oh and leaning town on HtS pretty hard. I noticed you don't have any scumreads - the bolded was related to what FF said about you. Are you scumreading him now? If not, where do you stand on him? I also kind of agreed with FF there. But TT's lack of scumreads worry me, too. And he went from townlean on me for my entrance to "keep an eye on me" without giving any reason why, as if he was just setting up to follow town sentiment, which was not liking my entrance at that time. I had made no posts or said anything else to change his read on me. Damdred, TT or Dandel lynch for me today.
I actually agree with TT being scummy.
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On September 16 2015 17:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 10:33 The Shining wrote:On September 15 2015 14:29 Tictock wrote:
As for the grail vote, I dont trust anyone enough to give it to just yet.
Leery of giving it to damdred already both because he seems to sorta want it and because he's suggesting he knows he can keep ahold of it for awhile. Slight scumlean.
Shining is cool for suggesting an alternate topic of discussion, townlean. On September 15 2015 19:28 Tictock wrote:Well I'm also waiting on HtS to make an entrance, but I have to head to work soon. I'm not sold on his read, but I'll admit Rels has done good open post cases before. TS might be someone to keep an eye on.I'm not sure I like BM. This was an odd explanation to throwing out a townread on rayn. On September 15 2015 10:29 Bill Murray wrote:
well you're the first person in any game if we're both in the game that im going to try to get a read on because you usually have something important going on Assuming the TS here is me(The Shining), I'm starting to like Tictock less and less. Especially because I really like this post here: On September 16 2015 08:24 Half the Sky wrote:On September 16 2015 06:19 Tictock wrote:
Ok caught up.
Pretty ok with BM and LS now.
Overall liked the responses LS gave to people pushing him and most of his reads are decent.
BM for poking and prodding and his reads remind me a little of his game in NSM X? XI? where he gave a brief flurry of activity before afking until mislynched.
Lol at people reading me scum for "getting townreads then dissapearing" no way did I disappear kus of RL, such as leaving for work as I mentioned in a post.
Oh and leaning town on HtS pretty hard. I noticed you don't have any scumreads - the bolded was related to what FF said about you. Are you scumreading him now? If not, where do you stand on him? I also kind of agreed with FF there. But TT's lack of scumreads worry me, too. And he went from townlean on me for my entrance to "keep an eye on me" without giving any reason why, as if he was just setting up to follow town sentiment, which was not liking my entrance at that time. I had made no posts or said anything else to change his read on me. Damdred, TT or Dandel lynch for me today. I actually agree with TT being scummy.
I disagree heavily. Why would mafia start the "try hard" phase of the thread instead on lying low and delaying it ?
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On September 16 2015 17:25 Rels wrote:
Don't think this in particular is suspicious. He posted very little so we don't really know his thought process. Maybe you can think his lack of activity is suspicious.
But the reason I'm not sure about him being scum is that I acted the same way in Newbie XI. Was super inactive the first three days, came back, and was so good he got shot the next night. Plus I liked him openly asking for the Grail.
Yea I don't want to read too much from the activity, I know Damdred and Rayn (can't recall if there is anyone else) are playing in another game atm.
This one apparently isn't Generic enough for them.
Also looking at Damdred's filter I realize all he ever said regarding LS was
On September 15 2015 10:59 Damdred wrote:
I might not mind a deadline ls vote tbh
So me thinking he was changing a read, or switching his top scum or summin is kinda over the top.
I'm not sure why people like him asking for the grail, I can totally see Scum!Damdred being bold enough to ask for it like that.
Idk, I'm not sure who I would trust with the grail just yet. Though that probably needs to become a bigger focus for town. We want to make sure it goes to town, I'm less worried about it being held for a long time. Any town holding the grail is liable to be witch killed so I'd imagine we can only realistically hold it for a day or two.
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I'm still waiting for Shining to answer, but I don't really think he's scum anymore. So let's unvote.
As he is the last member of the ULOUP, I'll vote Dandel Ion until he stops trolling. He will have to be super townie though, 'cause him actively lurking for the past day is scum indicative.
##DeadlineUnvote
##DeadlineVote Dandel Ion
If Dandel starts playing and is actually town, geript is my next scumread. Possibly Damdred if his meta read is crap like Shining affirmed. I still need someone to analyze it BTW.
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we should 100% lynch Damdred.
##DeadlineVote Damdred
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On September 16 2015 17:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 10:33 The Shining wrote:On September 15 2015 14:29 Tictock wrote:
As for the grail vote, I dont trust anyone enough to give it to just yet.
Leery of giving it to damdred already both because he seems to sorta want it and because he's suggesting he knows he can keep ahold of it for awhile. Slight scumlean.
Shining is cool for suggesting an alternate topic of discussion, townlean. On September 15 2015 19:28 Tictock wrote:Well I'm also waiting on HtS to make an entrance, but I have to head to work soon. I'm not sold on his read, but I'll admit Rels has done good open post cases before. TS might be someone to keep an eye on.I'm not sure I like BM. This was an odd explanation to throwing out a townread on rayn. On September 15 2015 10:29 Bill Murray wrote:
well you're the first person in any game if we're both in the game that im going to try to get a read on because you usually have something important going on Assuming the TS here is me(The Shining), I'm starting to like Tictock less and less. Especially because I really like this post here: On September 16 2015 08:24 Half the Sky wrote:On September 16 2015 06:19 Tictock wrote:
Ok caught up.
Pretty ok with BM and LS now.
Overall liked the responses LS gave to people pushing him and most of his reads are decent.
BM for poking and prodding and his reads remind me a little of his game in NSM X? XI? where he gave a brief flurry of activity before afking until mislynched.
Lol at people reading me scum for "getting townreads then dissapearing" no way did I disappear kus of RL, such as leaving for work as I mentioned in a post.
Oh and leaning town on HtS pretty hard. I noticed you don't have any scumreads - the bolded was related to what FF said about you. Are you scumreading him now? If not, where do you stand on him? I also kind of agreed with FF there. But TT's lack of scumreads worry me, too. And he went from townlean on me for my entrance to "keep an eye on me" without giving any reason why, as if he was just setting up to follow town sentiment, which was not liking my entrance at that time. I had made no posts or said anything else to change his read on me. Damdred, TT or Dandel lynch for me today. I actually agree with TT being scummy.
Is that why you started ignoring me?
On September 16 2015 06:41 Tictock wrote:
So what are you scumreading HtS then rayn?
She pointed out and responded to stuff as she read through the thread, endgaged you and Rels regarding her "I'm not a martyr" thing, then goes looking into other games to further her reads.
Tone and actions all seem towny to me. Possible for these things to come from scum HtS I suppose, I do believe she is pretty capable as mafia.
On September 16 2015 08:12 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 18:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
oh yeah and geript is totally town. Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So geript is your scumread?
Does it affect you at all i am telling you there is literally no way he is mafia in this game?
Also at the time you made thw post you got called out for, did you seriously think i am mafia for pushing a retarded role claim? Like i know you value my opinion, and i am not stupid. Did it not come to your mind to think a bit more about why i say what i do? I find this really hard to believe LS. Thats why i think you are mafia atm. Rayn can you explain why you hardread geript as town?
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On September 16 2015 17:40 Tictock wrote:
I'm not sure why people like him asking for the grail, I can totally see Scum!Damdred being bold enough to ask for it like that.
I don't. Damdred is super logical, and it's not logical for mafia to openly attract attention like that.
Mind you, it's not a super powerful town sign, and if his meta of Shining is a lie, that will be way more scum indicative than that.
On September 16 2015 17:40 Tictock wrote:
Idk, I'm not sure who I would trust with the grail just yet. Though that probably needs to become a bigger focus for town. We want to make sure it goes to town, I'm less worried about it being held for a long time. Any town holding the grail is liable to be witch killed so I'd imagine we can only realistically hold it for a day or two.
I don't have this problem (= you're the best Grail owner: town, but there are other people mafia will want to shoot before you.
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On September 16 2015 17:42 Rels wrote:
I'm still waiting for Shining to answer, but I don't really think he's scum anymore. So let's unvote.
As he is the last member of the ULOUP, I'll vote Dandel Ion until he stops trolling. He will have to be super townie though, 'cause him actively lurking for the past day is scum indicative.
##DeadlineUnvote
##DeadlineVote Dandel Ion
If Dandel starts playing and is actually town, geript is my next scumread. Possibly Damdred if his meta read is crap like Shining affirmed. I still need someone to analyze it BTW.
I support this post.
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I also still have no read of FF, which is super frustrating. Two people have town meta reads on him. On my part, I have the feeling he posts just enough to appear townie without doing much.
I think I'll believe Vivax and HTS reads of him for today and re evaluate his filter D2.
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TT, rayn: what is your read of FF ?
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On September 16 2015 17:46 Rels wrote:
I don't have this problem (= you're the best Grail owner: town, but there are other people mafia will want to shoot before you.
Awwww
<3 you too buddy
Never let BM destroy what we have ^.^
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On September 16 2015 17:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
we should 100% lynch Damdred.
##DeadlineVote Damdred
Is activity the only reaon for your vote ? I saw your meta read earlier that was basically "inactive Damdred == mafia". Again:
1 - meta =X
2 - he had this level of activity the first few days in Newbie XI, and he was also a role in that game
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On September 16 2015 17:52 Rels wrote:
TT, rayn: what is your read of FF ?
He said something that i found out to be townie. I don't want to lynch him atm.
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On September 16 2015 17:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:He said something that i found out to be townie. I don't want to lynch him atm.
Which was ?
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On September 16 2015 17:54 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 17:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
we should 100% lynch Damdred.
##DeadlineVote Damdred Is activity the only reaon for your vote ? I saw your meta read earlier that was basically "inactive Damdred == mafia". Again: 1 - meta =X 2 - he had this level of activity the first few days in Newbie XI, and he was also a role in that game
yes. and the way he posts. being a role here doesn't mean shit regarding activity because everyone is a role and Damdred has played this before.
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On September 16 2015 17:55 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 17:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 16 2015 17:52 Rels wrote:
TT, rayn: what is your read of FF ? He said something that i found out to be townie. I don't want to lynch him atm. Which was ?
umm.. gimme a second i gotta find that out.
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On September 16 2015 17:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 17:54 Rels wrote:On September 16 2015 17:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
we should 100% lynch Damdred.
##DeadlineVote Damdred Is activity the only reaon for your vote ? I saw your meta read earlier that was basically "inactive Damdred == mafia". Again: 1 - meta =X 2 - he had this level of activity the first few days in Newbie XI, and he was also a role in that game yes. and the way he posts. being a role here doesn't mean shit regarding activity because everyone is a role and Damdred has played this before.
Do you know if Damdred's meta read of Shining is fake ?
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On September 16 2015 06:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
I said I don't like tictock and damdred rayn, I won't provide reads I don't have and my scumread right now are shaky at best
I'd lynch a damdred that asks for mayor and then fucks off ezpz
this post.
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