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On September 03 2015 22:31 Fidei86 wrote: Gamblers fallacy suggests after 4 town games, I should roll mafia this time. Just saying. No host WIFOM plox. Don't worry, I have been assured by tina that the game will be RNG'd, despite my perfectly reasonable suggestions about who should get what roles. | ||
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On September 05 2015 07:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's a bold claim but i believe you.  rayn if you're town we shall destroy mafia let's do it. | ||
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He's been fairly obvious town so far. | ||
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My ability to read rayn, which spans some 20 or so games and 2 years. Also, for objective criteria, he is the loudest, most active player early on in the game when mafia is given no incentive to push the envelope and make waves. Your vote on him is terrible and I read it as intentionally antagonistic towards a player with a penchant for getting all bothered by this kind of silliness. Unless you have some very good reasons for reading him mafia (which you certainly don't, because there are none), then I'm left to question your motives. | ||
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On September 05 2015 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: glowingbear does that as scum though. he banks on me coming to a conclusion "too dumb to be scum", but he's played that card already so it does not work. idk maybe Breshke is town after all, we'll see. I really think Slam is mafia, can you see why? I do agree on breshke. GB could go either way. His scum play IS "too dumb to be scum" so yeah. He's also terrible as town fwiw. I agree to a degree on slam but it's hard to press that angle without seeing more activity that he promised. | ||
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On September 05 2015 08:59 GlowingBear wrote: This is some of the worst reasons to read yamato. You're basically saying he is town because he promised to play. And you're assuming he is fulfilling his promise because he had an opening. I find hard to believe such retarded reasoning could come from such a good player as you. Breshke is mafia because he posted just to post on the very first hour of the game I am mafia because I refuse to clarify a claim and you SHOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M DOING BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS CLAIM COP AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY GAME Yamato is town because he had a happy opening. Everything you're saying here is bullshit you should probably stop posting right about now if you're town, you're arguing with town rayn if you're mafia you're going to get lynched over rayn 100 times out of 100 | ||
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On September 05 2015 09:00 scott31337 wrote: Fucking town - I wanted to be mafia with Fidei and someone else - We'd bus the shit out of #3 and claim our victory. is this the only thing you feel is worth saying at the moment or...? | ||
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On September 05 2015 09:15 n00bKing wrote: Okay, so from a meta-read standpoint, help me out here: Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town? "Active" doesn't make someone Town, and "loud" especially doesn't make someone Town. If he has a penchant for being bothered by silliness, that's his fault, not mine. You should applaud me for giving him some practice at controlling himself.  trash tier post | ||
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##Vote: n00bKing | ||
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On September 05 2015 11:06 n00bKing wrote: There IS no post where you say you consider rayn Town, much less give an explanation for why you would consider him Town. There is a post where you say "When rayn uses more 'tone reads and emotional reads' he tends to be mafia." And that could be taken as an insinuation that rayn could be Town....IF it weren't for the FACT that he's used tone reads or emotional reads in THIS game. Look at what he has said about how he determined the allegiances of Alakaslam and yamato. They are both "tonereads" at best, if not better described as "reads based on literally nothing at all." Then he goes bonkers over a little bit of nothing from both Breshke and GlowingBear, and nothing helps to create a poor Town atmosphere for catching Scum more than jumping at those sorts of inconsequential bits of nothing, and trying to turn them into major talking points. It distracts the Town from actually doing anything productive. He would later say "My arguments on yamato and Slam are in fact really fucking good" which is laugh-out-loud preposterous. Says he's 95% sure Alakaslam is Mafia and 98% sure that I am. Why would a TOWN player ever want to take up space in the thread spouting stupid crap like that? Even more useless (somehow?) are posts such as: "Like i am literally the towniest person in this game." There is never any reason for a Town player to say something like this. The name of the game is for the Town players to work together, and create conditions where the Scum players cannot conceal themselves. With that goal in mind, everything rayn does is wrong. The amount of bad in this post is over 9000. rayn is really, really obviously town and his reads are pretty reasonable unless you're going to make the asinine case that he and I are mafia together and hard townread each other 2 hours into D1, you should probably stop complaining about his read on me For the record, rayn and I ARE working together, as town is supposed to do. You're the one impeding cooperation, if in fact you are town, by insisting that one of us is reading the other incorrectly (namely by saying that rayn is mafia for his read on me which is laughable) posts like these are actually +town for any given player, in general On September 05 2015 12:11 n00bKing wrote: Because I am an excellent communicator and mediator. I see your point, and it makes sense, as you don't know me. But experience has shown me that I can *successfully* clear up misunderstandings between people, instead of them just ignoring my explanations of what happened, and continuing to talk past one another. Not sure how one would fail to see its prematurity. lol Yet you've managed only to ruffle feathers this game I'd say you're failing massively in the do anything but piss off rayn department. Notably, your last few posts I've seen before this one are quite meaningless. On September 05 2015 14:47 n00bKing wrote: On THIS site, it seems like the games usually have a few dim bulbs. It's a lower level of play than I'm used to, and I'm still trying to make adjustments. This is an example of such an adjustment. Fucking LOL pot, kettle, black On September 05 2015 20:23 CoughingHydra wrote: It's not "fair" since some of you can base your conclusions on previous games. Also 20 pages already... But anyway, my thoughts. First there was this convo about GB claiming vigi. I think it should be noted here that start setup is only know by mafia and blue roles (except cop and miller). The discussion went relatively constructive imo. Next, there was some pressuring going on it seems, noob voting ryan and breshke voting slam. After reading through the discussion, I don't know what to think of cake (with his funky posting) and breshke (case vs slam felt shaky and odd), but the rest seem town aligned for now (except for the people that didn't post at all obv). >______________> I have few townreads, Slam, Rayn, Cop, Breshke Superbia hasn't posted since the start; moosy posts irrelevant things and calls cake mafia for ? reasons; GB votes lurkers and says not much meaningful about the game - all null given their relative activity noobking is pretty scummy given his posting but at least it's consistent. he is ultra wrong tho no one else has done/said anything I find meaningful | ||
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On September 06 2015 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Superbia said he's gonna be afk for saturday so i don't think that means anything. yeah but he wasn't even super townie when he was here | ||
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weird obsession with copcake reads off | ||
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On September 06 2015 05:55 n00bKing wrote: I would have a difficult time crafting a defense for any of: CopCake, boxerfred, Hydra/Mage. I'm still waiting to see a post from yamato that looks useful, but I can keep waiting, unless that's a notorious lurker or something. lol you're getting lynched today how do you feel? | ||
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On September 06 2015 06:22 MoosyDoosy wrote: yamato will you agree to this gamble as well? only if the gamble is to lynch noobking every time 100/100 | ||
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it's too hard to ignore if he's town, his self-proclaimed skill of managing to work with other townies is just so laughably absent this game that I can't help but think he's so much worse than he's putting on that we're inevitably going to lynch him anyway | ||
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On September 06 2015 06:25 n00bKing wrote: That wasn't a meta-read though, at least not in the sense that most people seem to use the term here. It was not based on any of his behavior from other games. And I most definitely have never said that I think you're Mafia, so stop trying to put words in my mouth. "blah blah semantics, I never said that, I said THIS!" post something MEANINGFUL by your own standards of reading me, there is no defense I can make of you try harder plx | ||
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On September 06 2015 06:29 MoosyDoosy wrote: yamato/rayn/superbia, would you agree that n00bKing and CopCake cannot be Mafia together? I generally detest associative reads, especially early. | ||
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On September 06 2015 06:33 n00bKing wrote: Not at all. I don't think the players who are mistakenly reading me as Mafia in this game are playing any worse than I've come to expect around here. I would have gladly made the above post before this game started. Like it says, it only took until my 2nd game here to realize that the players here are on a lower level than I'm used to, and that they don't really seem to care about ever getting better, either. In the games I play, players hold things over each other's heads from games that happened YEARS ago. Bragging rights are real, and you don't want to be the one who gets embarrassed, because you won't be allowed to forget about it. Here, people don't even care whether they win or lose (or whether they even finish the fucking game, or just up and stop playing), much less about their reputation. Your reputation is fast becoming one of a whiny little bitch who is mad he's going to get lynched | ||
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I also do fwiw seems like he's got a little TMI on noobking for me | ||
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On September 06 2015 05:57 n00bKing wrote: GlowingBear has come out looking Town from virtually every interaction. So if Scott is Town, then he's just about as wrong as he could possibly be, as I like most of what GlowingBear has had to say in the game. Seeing as you don't have a townread of scott, and that it appears to be because he doesn't like GB's posting while you do, what GB posts do you happen to agree with? I don't agree with much of what GB has posted. | ||
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On September 06 2015 06:38 n00bKing wrote: Yeah, could not really disagree more. Moosy and GlowingBear are probably the two players I have the most reason to townread at this point. Those are 2 players I do not find to be the most likely town whatsoever. | ||
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On September 06 2015 06:39 n00bKing wrote: I very seriously doubt I am getting lynched today. Never once in my entire Mafia career have I been the Day 1 lynch. Ever. Well then perhaps instead of making generalized statements with no context, you ought to provide evidence for your reads, because I do not follow many of them. | ||
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On September 06 2015 06:39 MoosyDoosy wrote: I am fairly sure n00bKing's town. When he was Mafia, he was stirring up all sorts of chaos during the game without giving any definitive reads. Here, he's still willing to participate and he gave reads on several people. His tone is all business unlike his Mafia game. Granted he is overreacting that TL Mafia sucks and that his ego was hurt, but those are all actually n00bKing town tells as well. Even if he's town, it doesn't mean copcake is more likely mafia whatsoever | ||
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On September 06 2015 06:48 n00bKing wrote: So? The game requires more effort from Scum than it does from Town. Anyone who doesn't work harder in their Scum games than they do in their Town games is doing their scummates a disservice. Are you going to answer any of my read-relevant questions or just post more of these kinds of posts? | ||
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I'm sorely tempted to lynch n00bKing regardless of what I find, but my better judgement says that he's probably town with a massive stick up his ass. FWIW I think his reads are all wrong but I think he's also bad enough to believe them, SO. I am still quite suspicious of Moosy and therefor I think the CopCake lynch is horrid. The wagon is n00b, mooosy, and the replacement. All-Stars. GB is fine afking with a vote on a wagon by himself. He is mafia. I want to lynch GB | ||
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On September 06 2015 08:01 Fidei86 wrote: Hey guys. Sorry I haven't been around today - I was really drunk yesterday evening when the game started, and I've spent most of today out and about with friends. Honestly, I was pretty bummed from how Personality Mafia ended, so I needed a bit of a break. But I'm back now. I've read the thread and I have some thoughts, but honestly I probably need to go back to the filters first before solid reads. In terms of my experience, I have played a fair bit of voice mafia with rayn, but I don't think we've ever been in a forum game together. I've played with scott before, but he AFKd through most of our most recent game. I was town with GB back in Himalayas, but he was killed before I really started contributing in a meaningful way. I was town with Moosy and n00b in newbie mafia XII, although that game ended kinda abruptly (and all of us were basically confirmed town d1). The rest of the players I wouldn't say I know much about. I like to get this sort of thing out at the start as it will hopefully give you more of a sense of where my reads come from. I'm going to read back over some filters, and give some thoughts. My initial read through made me most sceptical of Moosy and n00b, especially as their play seemed very different to last time I played with them. One thing I do want to say now is that this is supposed to be a Newbie Game, and you guys have managed to fill 40 pages in a day and a bit. This is just a quick plea to make sure you think before you post - active town is great, but over-active town means that people can just sort of hide in the noise. This post makes me want to puke. | ||
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On September 06 2015 09:03 Fidei86 wrote: Okay, so this post. WTF. I started off by running through all the reads one by one, but the thing that really sticks out here is that MD's previous five pages of filter are basically just a defence of n00b. MD goes as far as to say that he has the best read on n00b of everyone in the game, and that he is basically SURE that this is n00b's town meta. But now that there's a wagon picking up on n00b, he's trying to walk that back? Huh? MD you really need to explain this read for me, because at the moment it really stinks. I agree with this point. | ||
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On September 07 2015 02:55 Fidei86 wrote: Guys is GlowingBear usually this disinterested as town? I've been town with him once, and he was literally in the middle of every single shit-fight there was. This time, he doesn't really seem to care. It's weird. This is a good post, mainly because you're breaking from over-analyzing BF's small filter Fidei is probably town, given his general coherence, level of focus, level of effort, and overall sense of absolute mistrust of even me, rofl. | ||
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IF ANYONE has objections, please raise them. I've read noob's post on the matter and choose to disagree with it in its entirety. | ||
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On September 07 2015 03:46 boxerfred wrote: That's true, see Gaiden where I was policy lynched due to RL issues and had low activity. Same here. I'm fine with a n00bking lynch, not with a cake lynch. I don't like fideis efforts and townread rayn. So much for me as of now. ##vote n00bKing I wish you'd read the part where I said I didn't want to lynch noobking anymore. | ||
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On September 07 2015 03:55 GlowingBear wrote: I really think noobking shouldn't be the lynch today. Vote scott. I really think you should be the lynch today. Vote yourself. | ||
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On September 07 2015 04:00 GlowingBear wrote: If people are going against lurkers, than we should lynch the scummiest, and not someone who is most likely a question mark. Scott fits the scummy lurker cartegory No he doesn't | ||
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On September 07 2015 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you think noobking is (most likely to be?) mafia then you are probably fine with the lynch? Should i read/comment onto something you have brought up before the lynch? If you think that's the case please let me know.. I actually think he's probably not mafia but it seems people are highly unwilling to make any sort of concerted effort to get anyone else lynched besides cop (lol) GB meanwhile makes a half-assed case on scott and goes completely ignored. I really want to lynch GB | ||
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On September 07 2015 05:51 Alakaslam wrote: I'll weigh in on this. Defensiveness when attacked can cause you to draw fast associations between those who attacked you. This is kind of what I was doing with Breshke but not exactly. I think it's null. Essentially this. Rayn, I think you're pretty wrong on Slam btw | ||
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On September 07 2015 05:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: I agree his case is terrible. However he has presented a scumread on noobking aswell. Why does mafia!GB not sheep rayn and lynch noobking instead of making a half-arsed case on scott? I can't understand it. Why does town GB do the same thing? Scum GB does not necessarily make sense. His reads do not mean anything. He even has this little contrived idea of scumreading one town and one mafia, and townreading one town and one mafia. Reading him based on thread flow is bad. He is, however, effectively opting out of any serious lynch discussion and seems absolutely content with the lynch going through while his vote goes elsewhere. His motivations? Perhaps to distance himself from the lynch and appear to have his own ideas. As town I think GB would be more vocal about a realistic lynch choice. | ||
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On September 07 2015 05:59 n00bKing wrote: I don't think that's true. People have shown varying degrees of willingness to lynch either boxerfred or Scott. So if you don't think I'm Scum, then CopCake isn't the only alternative. There are threeeee alternatives. I don't want to lynch either of those either. So no. | ||
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On September 07 2015 06:19 CopCake wrote: Rayn, yamato, etc why GB over noob? noob is more active and more coherent also it's hard to evaluate him outside of what he posted very early because most of today we've been pushing him at least he hasn't had some sort of absolute meltdown. he may still be mafia with his horrid attitude but I could also see some self-righteous prick having this same reaction to getting scumread widely and nearly lynched. he's acting out of self-preservation at this point which is completely NAI so one can't really hammer the lynch home | ||
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it's lynch time, put up or shut up | ||
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On September 07 2015 06:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: yamato are you sure you don't want to lynch noobking? it's very tempting, but no I'm running with GB/Moosy +1 | ||
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On September 07 2015 06:36 Superbia wrote: This is the soft in question: + Show Spoiler + Claim it, bitch. that's just him being a cocky shit | ||
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On September 07 2015 06:57 Alakaslam wrote: Like 2 mins left, lynch is solid. I take full reaponsibility! :D OP says half an hour | ||
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On September 07 2015 06:58 n00bKing wrote: Will you still think everyone on GB is Town if he flips Town? Wouldn't change anything for me I'd have to re-eval you, breshke, maybe BF | ||
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On September 07 2015 07:06 MoosyDoosy wrote: i honestly don't know how to read glowingbear. i'm pretty certain about copcake though. i've seen a couple posts about her like how her posts are good which i'll address on end of n1 in case i die. you're more likely to be lynched than get shot unless I'm the vig KappaPride | ||
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No fucking doctor softs blue at the start of the day, jokingly or not | ||
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On September 07 2015 07:17 GlowingBear wrote: JESUS I SAID I WAS VIGI BECAUSE MAFIA KNOW THE ROLES SO I WOULDNT BE SHOT AR NIHJT fuck off | ||
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On September 07 2015 07:17 GlowingBear wrote: JESUS I SAID I WAS VIGI BECAUSE MAFIA KNOW THE ROLES SO I WOULDNT BE SHOT AR NIHJT that's the most stupid thing I've ever heard in my life | ||
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On September 07 2015 07:21 GlowingBear wrote: So he just checks me at night if he is smart. Then he gets a green check on me and I keep alive. That's why I didn't want to talk about my claim. THERE'S A FUCKING GODFATHER IF YOU ARE DOC YOU DUMB SHIT good lord I want to believe you're just mafia but the possibility is so strong that you're just an idiot | ||
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if he's doctor mafia have to deal with it HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT | ||
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On September 07 2015 07:26 MoosyDoosy wrote: im not up for this. gb's thought process makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. why would he think cop would check him unless he's godfather??? do not underestimate GB's ability to be dumb | ||
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On September 07 2015 07:27 GlowingBear wrote: I don't think noobking is Mafia... literally no one cares what you think about this game regardless of your alignment | ||
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pretty fucking damning | ||
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but we couldn't lynch GB with so little time | ||
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Also do not check GB, that is a waste Check someone YOU want to check, do not listen to other players saying things | ||
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shoulda posted at night I guess | ||
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On September 22 2015 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: gg yamato. it was nice. <3 we wrecked mafia if only we had the balls to stay on GB, game could have been won right there basically damn | ||
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