• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 16:43
CET 22:43
KST 06:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
[BSL23] RO16 Group Stage12Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?2Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23
StarCraft 2
General
Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top? Liquibets sc2 season 30 No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon
Tourneys
soO & FanTaSy return! SC2 Kevin Scrim 4v4 (Nov 16) RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament iNu's Battles #22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Starcraft 2 Advance [G] How to playtest arcade maps [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
List of top players active on ShieldBattery BW General Discussion [BSL23] RO16 Group Stage screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool [BW] Looking for Clan Thread!
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll [$1250] International ShieldBattery League Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Infested Terran strategies in 2026 Nuke strategy worked in K-League 2026-11-09 50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy)
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Trading/Investing Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Dating: How's your luck? European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 15313 users

Newbie Student Mafia XIV: Firefly

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 Next All
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 26 2015 02:26 GMT
#10
I now want a bottle of Glenfiddich.

Damn you, HtS
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 01 2015 21:00 GMT
#90
/in
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 03 2015 17:21 GMT
#127
On September 03 2015 22:31 Fidei86 wrote:
Gamblers fallacy suggests after 4 town games, I should roll mafia this time. Just saying.

No host WIFOM plox.

Don't worry, I have been assured by tina that the game will be RNG'd, despite my perfectly reasonable suggestions about who should get what roles.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 04 2015 22:35 GMT
#168
I ROLLED TOWN

GG BOYS
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 04 2015 22:39 GMT
#172
On September 05 2015 07:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 07:35 yamato77 wrote:
I ROLLED TOWN

GG BOYS

It's a bold claim but i believe you.

rayn if you're town we shall destroy mafia

let's do it.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 04 2015 22:53 GMT
#189
Of all the people in the game, I have the least reasons to like GB's posting.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 04 2015 23:06 GMT
#207
maybe he's mafia
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 04 2015 23:56 GMT
#252
I don't think baiting rayn into getting angry is the right way to be playing this D1.

He's been fairly obvious town so far.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2015 00:00 GMT
#258
On September 05 2015 08:57 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 08:56 yamato77 wrote:
He's been fairly obvious town so far.

And you base this upon what?

My ability to read rayn, which spans some 20 or so games and 2 years.

Also, for objective criteria, he is the loudest, most active player early on in the game when mafia is given no incentive to push the envelope and make waves.

Your vote on him is terrible and I read it as intentionally antagonistic towards a player with a penchant for getting all bothered by this kind of silliness. Unless you have some very good reasons for reading him mafia (which you certainly don't, because there are none), then I'm left to question your motives.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2015 00:02 GMT
#260
On September 05 2015 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 08:56 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think baiting rayn into getting angry is the right way to be playing this D1.

He's been fairly obvious town so far.

glowingbear does that as scum though. he banks on me coming to a conclusion "too dumb to be scum", but he's played that card already so it does not work.

idk maybe Breshke is town after all, we'll see.

I really think Slam is mafia, can you see why?

I do agree on breshke.

GB could go either way. His scum play IS "too dumb to be scum" so yeah. He's also terrible as town fwiw.

I agree to a degree on slam but it's hard to press that angle without seeing more activity that he promised.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2015 00:03 GMT
#261
On September 05 2015 08:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 08:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 05 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 07:53 yamato77 wrote:
Of all the people in the game, I have the least reasons to like GB's posting.

I want him to answer me.
I dislike Breshke the most.

The "do we just wait yamato/rayn magic to happen" is out of place as he doesn't even think either of us is necessarily town and idk.. it's jsut totally out of place, the whole post. Like is anyone even suggesting anything like that? Or like following your suggestion that "we should destroy mafia rayn"... Like that doesn't mean we will jsut own the thread and noone else has nothing to say about anything.

meh.. idk how to explain, the post is just terrible, doesn't make any sense and the timing goes along the same path.

I feel like it's NAI. It's probably a mix of pun and an observation. If yo uboth are town then you both are going to show something for it. and if u don't then it's an easy way to make some reads off of making an inner circle early on yeah? just some thoughts

Of course we are. The reason i am reading yamato town is because i talked with him on TS last night and he has rolled mafia for like 5 games in a row or something and i told him "hey let's wreck mafia if we are both town, it would be nice to play with you when you are actually town and play".

He basically promised to play in his first post, because he seems interested in the game and happy. If it's a fake post then i will 100% figure it out based on his play AFTERWARDS, but as per now there is zero reason to think yamato is mafia.

I don't really get what you are saying here. Like are you suggesting posts that do not make any sense and do not help town find mafia are not scummy? Because in my opinion they are. Again there was no reason for him to make the post from town perspective, hell he himself clarified that already. Like obviously he is not 100% mafia, which is why i am not voting for him, but that was a HUGE red flag for me. So if Breshke is town he better shape up, because he is actually a decent player when he plays, and i expect everyone who is town to play. What he did so far is far from decent.

Superbia can go to townpile aswell.


This is some of the worst reasons to read yamato. You're basically saying he is town because he promised to play. And you're assuming he is fulfilling his promise because he had an opening.

I find hard to believe such retarded reasoning could come from such a good player as you.

Breshke is mafia because he posted just to post on the very first hour of the game

I am mafia because I refuse to clarify a claim and you SHOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M DOING BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS CLAIM COP AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY GAME

Yamato is town because he had a happy opening.

Everything you're saying here is bullshit

you should probably stop posting right about now

if you're town, you're arguing with town rayn

if you're mafia you're going to get lynched over rayn 100 times out of 100
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2015 00:04 GMT
#262
On September 05 2015 09:00 scott31337 wrote:
Fucking town - I wanted to be mafia with Fidei and someone else - We'd bus the shit out of #3 and claim our victory.

is this the only thing you feel is worth saying at the moment or...?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2015 00:25 GMT
#289
On September 05 2015 09:15 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 09:00 yamato77 wrote:
My ability to read rayn, which spans some 20 or so games and 2 years.

Okay, so from a meta-read standpoint, help me out here:

Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town?
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 09:00 yamato77 wrote:
Also, for objective criteria, he is the loudest, most active player early on in the game when mafia is given no incentive to push the envelope and make waves.

"Active" doesn't make someone Town, and "loud" especially doesn't make someone Town.
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 09:00 yamato77 wrote:
Your vote on him is terrible and I read it as intentionally antagonistic towards a player with a penchant for getting all bothered by this kind of silliness.

If he has a penchant for being bothered by silliness, that's his fault, not mine. You should applaud me for giving him some practice at controlling himself.

trash tier post
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2015 00:26 GMT
#290
##Vote: n00bkKing
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2015 00:26 GMT
#292
EBWOP

##Vote: n00bKing
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2015 17:10 GMT
#598
On September 05 2015 11:06 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 10:35 CopCake wrote:
look at my post where i say why i consider him town, because i won't accept "analyzing little details" as an answer.

There IS no post where you say you consider rayn Town, much less give an explanation for why you would consider him Town.

There is a post where you say "When rayn uses more 'tone reads and emotional reads' he tends to be mafia." And that could be taken as an insinuation that rayn could be Town....IF it weren't for the FACT that he's used tone reads or emotional reads in THIS game.

Look at what he has said about how he determined the allegiances of Alakaslam and yamato. They are both "tonereads" at best, if not better described as "reads based on literally nothing at all."

Then he goes bonkers over a little bit of nothing from both Breshke and GlowingBear, and nothing helps to create a poor Town atmosphere for catching Scum more than jumping at those sorts of inconsequential bits of nothing, and trying to turn them into major talking points. It distracts the Town from actually doing anything productive.

He would later say "My arguments on yamato and Slam are in fact really fucking good" which is laugh-out-loud preposterous. Says he's 95% sure Alakaslam is Mafia and 98% sure that I am. Why would a TOWN player ever want to take up space in the thread spouting stupid crap like that?

Even more useless (somehow?) are posts such as: "Like i am literally the towniest person in this game." There is never any reason for a Town player to say something like this.

The name of the game is for the Town players to work together, and create conditions where the Scum players cannot conceal themselves. With that goal in mind, everything rayn does is wrong.

The amount of bad in this post is over 9000.

rayn is really, really obviously town and his reads are pretty reasonable

unless you're going to make the asinine case that he and I are mafia together and hard townread each other 2 hours into D1, you should probably stop complaining about his read on me

For the record, rayn and I ARE working together, as town is supposed to do. You're the one impeding cooperation, if in fact you are town, by insisting that one of us is reading the other incorrectly (namely by saying that rayn is mafia for his read on me which is laughable)

On September 05 2015 11:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 11:54 CopCake wrote:
Rayn soneji killed you in the other game.

I am laughing so hard.

OK I DON'T LIKE COPCAKE RITE NOW.


posts like these are actually +town for any given player, in general

On September 05 2015 12:11 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 12:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Please make sure this doesn't turn into simply joining a fray.

If they talk past each other, what makes you certain they don't just talk past you?

Because I am an excellent communicator and mediator.

I see your point, and it makes sense, as you don't know me. But experience has shown me that I can *successfully* clear up misunderstandings between people, instead of them just ignoring my explanations of what happened, and continuing to talk past one another.
Show nested quote +

Do him no discredit for his read of me, but please see it's prematurity.

Not sure how one would fail to see its prematurity. lol


Yet you've managed only to ruffle feathers this game

I'd say you're failing massively in the do anything but piss off rayn department.

Notably, your last few posts I've seen before this one are quite meaningless.

On September 05 2015 14:47 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 14:39 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 14:36 n00bKing wrote:
On September 05 2015 14:33 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 14:23 n00bKing wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam, rayn did not cast suspicions on you so he could catch lazy mafia trying to lynch town slam.

Agree.

I never claimed that. I claimed Rayn push had an unintended side effect

I can agree with what GB said without saying you claimed that. And it's important for people to be sure rayn wasn't doing that, even if you hadn't said he was.

Oof. If we have people who would draw that conclusion we have some dim bulbs

On THIS site, it seems like the games usually have a few dim bulbs. It's a lower level of play than I'm used to, and I'm still trying to make adjustments. This is an example of such an adjustment.


Fucking LOL

pot, kettle, black

On September 05 2015 20:23 CoughingHydra wrote:
It's not "fair" since some of you can base your conclusions on previous games. Also 20 pages already... But anyway, my thoughts.

First there was this convo about GB claiming vigi. I think it should be noted here that start setup is only know by mafia and blue roles (except cop and miller). The discussion went relatively constructive imo. Next, there was some pressuring going on it seems, noob voting ryan and breshke voting slam. After reading through the discussion, I don't know what to think of cake (with his funky posting) and breshke (case vs slam felt shaky and odd), but the rest seem town aligned for now (except for the people that didn't post at all obv).


>______________>

I have few townreads,

Slam, Rayn, Cop, Breshke

Superbia hasn't posted since the start; moosy posts irrelevant things and calls cake mafia for ? reasons; GB votes lurkers and says not much meaningful about the game - all null given their relative activity

noobking is pretty scummy given his posting but at least it's consistent. he is ultra wrong tho

no one else has done/said anything I find meaningful
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2015 17:13 GMT
#600
On September 06 2015 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia said he's gonna be afk for saturday so i don't think that means anything.

yeah but he wasn't even super townie when he was here
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2015 18:22 GMT
#636
not convinced on moosy townleans tbh

weird obsession with copcake reads off
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2015 21:18 GMT
#707
On September 06 2015 05:55 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 01:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
n00bKing. For one moment, say that you believe that rayn is town. Who would you look at next if that was the case?

I would have a difficult time crafting a defense for any of: CopCake, boxerfred, Hydra/Mage. I'm still waiting to see a post from yamato that looks useful, but I can keep waiting, unless that's a notorious lurker or something.

lol

you're getting lynched today

how do you feel?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2015 21:22 GMT
#715
On September 06 2015 06:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
yamato will you agree to this gamble as well?

only if the gamble is to lynch noobking every time 100/100
Writer@WriterYamato
1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
3D!Clan Event
01:30
Autumn Series Playoffs
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 577
EmSc Tv 24
Nathanias 3
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 312
soO 16
LuMiX 5
League of Legends
Trikslyr63
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps2010
gobbtv219
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu592
Other Games
tarik_tv5715
summit1g4160
Grubby1737
fl0m721
B2W.Neo505
shahzam428
PiGStarcraft283
syndereN146
C9.Mang0140
QueenE87
Mew2King54
Railgan38
UpATreeSC38
ZombieGrub38
Organizations
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 24
EmSc2Tv 24
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix25
• blackmanpl 14
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV520
League of Legends
• TFBlade768
Other Games
• imaqtpie1304
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
12h 17m
KCM Race Survival
12h 17m
WardiTV Invitational
14h 17m
OSC
1d 1h
ArT vs MindelVK
MiniZergUA vs TBD
Shameless vs TBD
Ultimate Battle
1d 14h
OSC
2 days
ByuN vs MaxPax
herO vs Krystianer
Percival vs Shameless
LetaleX vs YoungYakov
Nicoract vs Gerald
GgMaChine vs ArT
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
IPSL
2 days
TerrOr vs IJ_Terran
rasowy vs Hazorath
BSL
2 days
TerrOr vs OyAji
UltrA vs Gosudark
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
IPSL
3 days
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
BSL
3 days
Artosis vs Dewalt
Ret vs Tech
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-09
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
Individual League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 951
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.