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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 31 2015 08:38 GMT
#24
So what is the final ratio?
I am not playing 11-2, that is just stupid.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 31 2015 17:06 GMT
#28
Okay.
/in
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 31 2015 19:45 GMT
#32
On August 01 2015 03:54 justanothertownie wrote:
This new forum design just sucks. Will we even get back filters?

+1
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 01 2015 03:51 GMT
#36
I approve her.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 02 2015 18:13 GMT
#62
I will be waiting for it
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 18:48 GMT
#88
So could we have Sentinel to tell us if this is going to start or not?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 18:54 GMT
#91
On August 06 2015 03:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 03:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So could we have Sentinel to tell us if this is going to start or not?

Starting in about an hour.

Thank you.

+ Show Spoiler +
I also know what my next sig will be when i get out of this Artanis bet.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 20:04 GMT
#95
On August 06 2015 05:01 rsoultin wrote:
ye i'm being lazy today lol >< see you scrubs tomorrowish

no you are not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 20:10 GMT
#98
no we are not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 20:13 GMT
#100
hey iGrok what was the last game you played?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 20:18 GMT
#104
On August 06 2015 05:14 iGrok wrote:
On a serious note, I will be pushing to lynch lurkers hard this game. Particularly in mountainous setups, activity is all we have to read you on. You lurk, I'm coming for you.

In all vanilla games i do actually approve this.
We do not have vigis or cops to "deal with" the inactives.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 20:18 GMT
#105
On August 06 2015 05:17 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 05:14 iGrok wrote:
On a serious note, I will be pushing to lynch lurkers hard this game. Particularly in mountainous setups, activity is all we have to read you on. You lurk, I'm coming for you.

what a shitpost

no you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 20:21 GMT
#107
1. FecalFeast
2. Yamato77
3. TheShining
4. EdgarAllenPoE
5. Rels
6. Raynpelikoneet
7. CopCake
8. Damdred
9. KelsierSC
10. RuXxar
11.scott31337
12. rsoultin
13. iGrok


yamato who is the psrson who goes inactive in this player list as town?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 20:24 GMT
#109
On August 06 2015 05:21 iGrok wrote:
Excellent. Rayne, you can be my deputy, and together we will clean up this... bridge?

sure.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 20:26 GMT
#110
##vote yamato77
I really want you to elaborate why the best possible approach to an all vanilla game is a shitpost?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 20:35 GMT
#112
........ really?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 20:38 GMT
#114
brrr.... idk...
why?

i can't possibly think why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 20:42 GMT
#116
##unvote
okay.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 20:53 GMT
#117
Anyways i have dumb reasons to think Scott is town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 20:57 GMT
#119
rsoultin you are not going to do this if you are town.
unless you are dumb. which you arent.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 21:09 GMT
#127
can you guys just act normal so i can townread you if you are town?
please?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 21:33 GMT
#142
On August 06 2015 06:30 ruXxar wrote:
Dno about the igrok guy, don't like him.

and why would that be?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 21:33 GMT
#143
i think we need to murder ruxxar.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 21:43 GMT
#161
the problem is he is not commenting on me any way, when i am fully backing up iGrok's post.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 21:44 GMT
#163
On August 06 2015 06:41 rsoultin wrote:
meh i may actually vote iGrok too :/

the activity fixation is real

you can't be serious?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 21:46 GMT
#166
On August 06 2015 06:45 ruXxar wrote:
igrok read is kinda meh, don't know him so it's a shot in the dark w/e

you jsut called him scum dude...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 21:49 GMT
#172
i think you are scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 22:07 GMT
#191
well ruxxar is mafia.
##vote ruxxar
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 22:08 GMT
#192
reason is he is not reading the thread in a chronological order.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 22:11 GMT
#197
iGrok has been more of help than you have rsoultin so i suggest you change that attitude, because tbh there is going to be a lot of questions on you when ruxxar flips mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 22:12 GMT
#199
On August 06 2015 07:11 ruXxar wrote:
i came in after the game had 3 pages and just skimmed to the posts and landed on some random ones that i had thoughts about.

not for a second do i believe that.

hi rsoultin, you scum?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 22:13 GMT
#201
On August 06 2015 07:12 ruXxar wrote:
then when i was finished talking i went back to look again for more posts to talk about

yet no talk about people you SHOULD be talking about.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 22:14 GMT
#206
On August 06 2015 07:13 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 06 2015 07:11 ruXxar wrote:
i came in after the game had 3 pages and just skimmed to the posts and landed on some random ones that i had thoughts about.

not for a second do i believe that.

hi rsoultin, you scum?


it's fine, i'm town so don't care kk

if you are town you are being as bad as Barakos and i do not believe it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 22:22 GMT
#224
Damdred if you think Kelsier is mafia you basically have to think i am mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 22:22 GMT
#226
On August 06 2015 07:21 ruXxar wrote:
also as i play mafia -> less patient -> read less write mroe stupid stuff kk.

yeah looks like this game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 22:30 GMT
#239
##vote ruxxar

Here is the thing. He calls out iGrok's post. Okay let's say he thinks it's scummy (which it isn't - it's non-alignment indicative). Then he has random townreads on rsoultin and Damdred (which he should not). Let's still say he somehow manages to have those reads. Then he claims he did not read the thread chronologically (which he should not do if he is town). Okay let's still believe he does that.

Then he has NO FUCKING read on me, on me, who is defending iGrok's (his ONLY scumread) post. No, instead he treats me like a townie with his "hey rayn i wanna help find scum yoyo" post.

dude is mafia.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 22:32 GMT
#242
I also kinda think Damdred is mafia because he fails to realize this.
and rsoultin.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 22:33 GMT
#245
that's not what i am saying, you are not this stupid.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 22:39 GMT
#255
The thing is, regarding ruxxars read on iGrok;

He calls someone scummy. The thing you usually - as town - do, is to look at how people react to a post you find scummy, obviously. He has now claimed he has actually read the thread, at least in between the lines (if he says he hasn't he is 150% mafia). So the most logical conclusion, after he has read the thread is to talk about me, yamato and Kelsier. Because we are involved. Instead he talks about... everything else.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 22:42 GMT
#258
On August 06 2015 07:37 rsoultin wrote:
eh he did it last game

apparently this is a real thought of his...watch this, watch this

i can't trust your damdy read cause it's ASSOCIATIVE and you obviously can be wrong because you're wrong on ME so i trust me more

watch watch this is where he freaks out lol

are you intentionally being a fucking arsehole towards me?
good job, you are the second person in this game to give away your alignment in another game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 22:43 GMT
#264
well dick move analysis says rsoultin is town too so i just ignore her for the rest of the game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 05 2015 22:45 GMT
#265
iGrok rsoultin is not mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 06:52 GMT
#374
confirmed town:
scott31337
rsoultin

just town:

FecalFeast
Damdred
KelsierSC

idk:
everyone else

mafia:
RuXxar
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 07:15 GMT
#375
On August 06 2015 11:07 Fecalfeast wrote:
I agree with damdred tht coming back to the thread after giving an excuse to leave the thread is more towny than scummy.

In fact it's not. If it was mafia would always do that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 07:22 GMT
#377
Because of dick move analysis.

Because someone saying something townie does not automatically make them town. Especially when it has nothing to do with reads.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 07:23 GMT
#379
On August 06 2015 08:49 Damdred wrote:
I've talked about it a bit before but, the first hint was his disagreeing with rayns opinion on ruxx and pushing his own.

I have absolutely no idea where you get this.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 07:27 GMT
#382
On August 06 2015 10:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
ruxxar, to me, seems like he's trying really hard to act silly while not forgetting to mention that as scum he is totally serious. Self meta is poop.

this is the best post in the game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 07:30 GMT
#383
On August 06 2015 16:25 ruXxar wrote:
Don't understand Igroks case against rs, it was really bad IMO.

Still think he's most scum so far, but this game is hard.

##vote igrok

Quote the posts from rsoultin that go against iGrok's case please.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 07:37 GMT
#386
On August 06 2015 16:31 ruXxar wrote:
Igrok just wanting to lynch lurkers instead of looking for mafia motivation is like trying to escape the responsibility of his scum reads by basing it on a towny concept.

When we mislynch people it's easy to go "I pushed xyz he was the least active, it was his own fault!"

Real easy cop out and avoids getting scum read for it.

yeah except that's not at all what he is saying and this has nothing to do with his case on rsoultin.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 07:40 GMT
#389
ff confirmed goat. <3
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 07:44 GMT
#390
Apparently we have to vote again for some reason, so:
##vote ruxxar

If you have just been in a game where someone who is also in this game said to you "you know you are one of the people i know who is just more coherent and rational as scum than as town, it's really odd there are people like that", then i do not find it impossible at all that this said person goes all "incoherent" at the start of the game. And this is not just like "he is all over the place". It is like "i am intentionally doing this by not reading the thread, not really caring at all about what i post and just posting dumb shit and seem like i am happy". That is literally what ruxxar has done in this game and i do not think he is trying to find mafia. Because he, at the start of the game, claimed he was not doing that.

Townies do not intentionally do that, therefore he is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 07:59 GMT
#394
On August 06 2015 16:46 ruXxar wrote:
Igroks "case" in rsoul is not a case.
It's just a summary of her posts.

And he takes the time to highlight the posts where she mentions going afk as if that has significance as to why he's voting for her.

It's the worst "case" in the history if cases

F-

I am going to clarify you what iGrok says:
I think rsoultin is actively lurking which is scummy. She has now:
1) shat on iGrok
2) shat on rayn
3) posted some other things that do not really say nothing
She is not saying anything of relevance, therefore she is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 08:07 GMT
#396
On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
Unfortunately this game will not work for me without filters.

I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing but then I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse.

##vote iGrok

I will not be very active at all. I'm also going to note that I'm a bit wary of Damdred and Kelsier.

this is also a scumpost.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 08:08 GMT
#397
" I'm at quite a bit of an impasse but hey let's still vote for iGrok."
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 08:13 GMT
#398
Now my question is, which one of yamato, shining, cake, iGrok is the last mafia.
Actually i do not think it's iGrok.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 08:17 GMT
#400
That doesn't make anyone mafia.
She is not mafia for that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 08:24 GMT
#404
Okay actually The Shining must be also mafia. Thanks for that post Rels.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 08:24 GMT
#405
On August 06 2015 17:23 Rels wrote:
BTW I'm curious about that:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 05:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyways i have dumb reasons to think Scott is town.

What in this scott's post is town indicative ?
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 04:59 scott31337 wrote:
CONFTOWN AGAIN yayyy

At least I-10's has a lane or two now.

I'll be back later.


I can't tell.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 08:26 GMT
#407
On August 06 2015 17:22 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 17:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That doesn't make anyone mafia.
She is not mafia for that.

You said ruxx would be scummy if he claimed to not have read the thread. Now CopCake not reading the thread is not alignment indicative ?

Because they are not the same person and ruxxar is doing that intentionally, cake is clearly not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 08:26 GMT
#408
On August 06 2015 17:25 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 17:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 06 2015 17:23 Rels wrote:
BTW I'm curious about that:
On August 06 2015 05:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyways i have dumb reasons to think Scott is town.

What in this scott's post is town indicative ?
On August 06 2015 04:59 scott31337 wrote:
CONFTOWN AGAIN yayyy

At least I-10's has a lane or two now.

I'll be back later.


I can't tell.

OK then what is your dumb reason ?

dick move analysis. yes it's related to that post.
but i can't tell you why me read is what it is.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 08:28 GMT
#410
On August 06 2015 17:27 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 17:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 06 2015 17:22 Rels wrote:
On August 06 2015 17:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That doesn't make anyone mafia.
She is not mafia for that.

You said ruxx would be scummy if he claimed to not have read the thread. Now CopCake not reading the thread is not alignment indicative ?

Because they are not the same person and ruxxar is doing that intentionally, cake is clearly not.

Makes sense. I'm not convinced though. CopCake clearly stated she (?) read the thread from the start . And she missed two posts: one from her and on from ruxxar.

well there is literally no mafia motivation to say that in case she has read the thread.
so she has genuinely missed that for some reason, which makes it NAI.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 08:31 GMT
#412
Anyways this is a game called pick your lynch. Here are the alternatives:

ruxxar - for what me, kelsier and FF have said.

Edgar - says he is at impasse but in the next sentence contradicts himself and votes for iGrok.

TheShining - says "I'm going to have to reread since no filters and I'm on mobile(I always play mobile, sry) but I remember being ehh on FF. It's too early for an associative read but his reaction to ruxxar felt a bit forced." In the next post after re-read talks about everything that is not FF or ruxxar.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 08:37 GMT
#415
On August 06 2015 17:29 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 17:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 06 2015 17:25 Rels wrote:
On August 06 2015 17:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 06 2015 17:23 Rels wrote:
BTW I'm curious about that:
On August 06 2015 05:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyways i have dumb reasons to think Scott is town.

What in this scott's post is town indicative ?
On August 06 2015 04:59 scott31337 wrote:
CONFTOWN AGAIN yayyy

At least I-10's has a lane or two now.

I'll be back later.


I can't tell.

OK then what is your dumb reason ?

dick move analysis. yes it's related to that post.
but i can't tell you why me read is what it is.

Bullshit. You posted to the thread you had a dumb reason to townread scott. Now you're saying you can't post it. If that's the case, it's bullshit to post you have a dumb reason in the first place.

I won't forget that rayn, so you better really have a reason and post it at some point.

yeah i do have a reason. My reason is irrelevant atm.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 08:39 GMT
#417
that's because i am supertown.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 08:43 GMT
#419
i can't talk about that either yet.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 08:47 GMT
#421
I can totally understand that for her on a site with no avatars.
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August 06 2015 08:56 GMT
#422
So yeah, i am not going to talk about scott & rsoultin.

Rels is town because he is focusing on relevant stuff in the thread and making good conclusions.

FF & Kelsier are town because they are saying smart stuff. To be honest Kelsier missed that Shining thing but it's in fact an easy thing to miss, i also missed it until Rels brought up Shining's first post. If you just look at the posts individually they make a lot of sense but looking at them to together they make zero sense at all.

Damdred is town because he is actually involved in the game which he isn't as mafia. He is actually involved in talking and arguing with me which he isn't as mafia. That's why i read him town Cake, and that's why i caught him in the VS game. Granted, he was really inactive and probably didn't give any fucks because of Keirathi dropping but still, the point stands.

iGrok is probably town because mafia is voting for him.

Cake and yamato are probably town because the three other people are mafia.

Mafia is ruxxar, shining and edgar.
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August 06 2015 09:01 GMT
#424
Like it does not matter if iGrok is pushing inactives at this point. If he was mafia and some of his team was inactive he would have to call them out when the townies who are inactive start posting (which they probably will, just because mafia is more likely to be inactive). If only townies are inactive he still needs to start pushing something when the inactive townies start posting.

If he is mafia he is putting himself into a bad place and basically banking his D1 onto the fact that at least one townie is going to be inactive, which is a crapshoot in an all vanilla game, especially when i am also pushing lynch all lurkers.

He just HAS to contribute when people start posting, and it's really hard to do that when you are "behind" in the game already (as you have just pushed inactives, which isn't mafia indicative at all at this point of the game). There is literally zero reasons for iGrok to be mafia at this point because:
1) his thought process is logical
2) if he was mafia he is setting himself into a shitty position by letting the town drive the thread

so yeah, there is that.
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Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 09:03 GMT
#425
I understand this does not make him 100% town but maybe around 70%.
Definitely not mafia. People who are voting for him do not even try to understand why he is saying the stuff he is. Also they are mafia so...
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Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 09:33 GMT
#428
Okay i actually think Shining is the best lynch today:
On August 06 2015 09:01 The Shining wrote:
I hate d1. Hate it hate it hate it. And where the hell is the filter button? I'm gonna take another break from TL and they'll get rid of preview next.

Dafuq man. How do you dive without filters? How do you guys even play without filters?!

Also this is my first all vanilla game so I was thinking of ways mechanically to hunt scum. I've got iGrok at a light town lean for wanting to go at lurkers from the start, which was one of the first things I considered. I'm not sure I agree with his RSo read, but I'm trash at treading her, and most ppl, D1. But as someone mentioned, she's threatened to go full lazy lurk mode and still hasn't. Not D1 Lynch.

I'm going to have to reread since no filters and I'm on mobile(I always play mobile, sry) but I remember being ehh on FF. It's too early for an associative read but his reaction to ruxxar felt a bit forced. "Idk I don't like ruxxar" its too noncommittal. Great, I'm not sure I like him either but I'm going to reread and figure out why I do/don't. He seems too bouncy to read clearly.


On August 06 2015 09:06 The Shining wrote:
Damdred town. Clear clear thought processes and a willingness to revisit a question/topic he already discussed because Cake asked again makes it look like he has nothing to hide.

I don't like Cop feeling it necessary to point out that he's a gem, as well as giving us his own chosen example of his scum meta. It shows he's very weary of his play, and how he looks at himself as scum, and trying to influence us in that direction instead of giving us the opportunity to do so on our own. Unless that is literally his only scumgame on this site.

He literally says he does not know that to think of FF and ruxxar.
Then he says he has to re-read and instead of doing that he goes to post about something completely different.

Like i get that his posts are 5 minutes apart, but it still doesn't make any sense he feels it's more important to to make another post onto townreads (damdred) and finding out other suspects (cake) when you already have people you suspect. He just leaves his read on FF & ruxxar onto "idk" state when the most logical thing to do is to go and figure out the reads on them.

I believe he just got timid about the fact his post was called out bad and had to post something that would be considered "good".

##unvote
##vote The Shining


ruxxar and edgar still mafia but this is my strongest scumread.
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Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 09:37 GMT
#430
It's okay we can totally have two mafia wagons.
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Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 09:41 GMT
#432
iGrok can you comment on the actual cases in the thread?
Like i get your approach but there is no reason to actually discuss the inactives. Everyone knows what you are saying about inactives and active lurkers.

Care to take on onto what me/Rels have posted in the last couple of pages?
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Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 09:43 GMT
#433
Also both scott and tina have posted more content than shining/edgar..
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Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 09:56 GMT
#435
Anyways i am off for the next ten hours or so.
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Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 11:18 GMT
#441
Ruxxar doesnt know what actively lurking means., when it's been explained at least twice in the thread. In both times related to the guy's he is voting for case...

Scummeryscum.
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Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 12:31 GMT
#448
Yeah then don't talk about ongoing games.

Damdred. Why is shining town? Full elaboration would be nice.

Also i am actully pretty sure cake is town.
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August 06 2015 12:45 GMT
#450
Shining even failed to realize the game cake quoted was not on TL.
That much for reading the thread.
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Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 12:53 GMT
#451
So okay, let's not consider you town for "bad reasons" then rsoultin.
So far you have
- mocked me
- mocked iGrok
- said weird stuff.

Which of Shining's reads are good in your opinion and why?
I will help you out, he actually has one read.
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Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 13:02 GMT
#456
I am not going to work with you if you mock me. I am not gonna get visibly mad but you, as everyone, knows i will get mad when people throw shit at me. So if you are going to work with me then please do, instead of calling me shit.

You don't have an opinion on Edgar, you say the other lynch targets (Shining & Ruxxar) are town, for reasons you don't either remember or i think are not good. You want to lynch iGrok but you have no desire to tell me why what i just said about him and his motivation, and how it points more towards town than to mafia, is wrong.

Like i have no idea what you are doing!?!?!? Except for being here. iGrok's case is not bad tbh.
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Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 15:15 GMT
#508
I wanted to leave early today so I just got home.
Three questions i want answered and i'll do some stuff to make the environment proper, then we go.
iGrok is not mafia.

First; rsoultin:
On August 06 2015 23:49 rsoultin wrote:
so

not lynching:
damdy
ruxx
rayn
rels
ksc
shining

yes those are in order of relative certainty

preferred lynch currently is edgar

On August 06 2015 23:50 rsoultin wrote:
though ruxx and rayn are basically interchangeable lol ><

Why would anyone ever care about "relative certainty" when you have three mafia to find and you have six townreads you do not want to lynch? Like who cares? And what does the other quote even mean?

Second; rsoultin i still want you to explain what i asked you about Shining.

third; ruxxar - do you prefer more playing as mafia or as town?
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August 06 2015 15:18 GMT
#511
And for all of the people;
If you think iGrok is mafia make a fucking case and vote for him then.
Otherwise let him do what he does. There is no way for rsoultin (or anyone) to defend her against iGrok unless rsoultin does shit. If iGrok still acts the same and rsoultin clearly does shit on D1 then we lynch iGrok at the EoD1. It is simple.

Rgiht now you all are making him, and yourself, running in circles.
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Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 15:19 GMT
#513
Rels Cake is not mafia either.
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August 06 2015 15:24 GMT
#517
On August 07 2015 00:20 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I wanted to leave early today so I just got home.
Three questions i want answered and i'll do some stuff to make the environment proper, then we go.
iGrok is not mafia.

First; rsoultin:
On August 06 2015 23:49 rsoultin wrote:
so

not lynching:
damdy
ruxx
rayn
rels
ksc
shining

yes those are in order of relative certainty

preferred lynch currently is edgar

On August 06 2015 23:50 rsoultin wrote:
though ruxx and rayn are basically interchangeable lol ><

Why would anyone ever care about "relative certainty" when you have three mafia to find and you have six townreads you do not want to lynch? Like who cares? And what does the other quote even mean?

Second; rsoultin i still want you to explain what i asked you about Shining.

third; ruxxar - do you prefer more playing as mafia or as town?


first, rayn, for people who actually care and value my reads (rels, for instance) relative certainty does mean something. and the second quote means i'm about equally certain on you and ruxx being town

secondly, i already responded to the shining question? i can go back and look at the specific reads, but it was a gut reaction to what he said. i liked the thought process behind the reads and i thought he could be town for them

to the second part;
okay so what do you find good on these reads?
- a townread on Damdred, for the same reasons basically everyone else townreads him? A good read? Points towards town?
- a scumread on Cake, for the reasons ruxxar should be a scumread awell. Funnily enough he apparently has read ruxxar's posts before this but for some reason this is not a reason to scumread ruxxar (they both gave examples of how they would play as mafia - in fact ruxxar overplayed it way more than Cake did. Cake was bragging, ruxxar was like "look at me how town i am because i don't do this stuff as mafia"). why is this a good read?
- he literally has no other reads
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August 06 2015 15:27 GMT
#521
On August 07 2015 00:26 Rels wrote:
@Shining when you come back:
I would like to have your read on iGrok.

No, the first thing he does he posts his reads on ruxxar and FF.
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August 06 2015 15:28 GMT
#523
On August 07 2015 00:27 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I wanted to leave early today so I just got home.
Three questions i want answered and i'll do some stuff to make the environment proper, then we go.
iGrok is not mafia.

First; rsoultin:
On August 06 2015 23:49 rsoultin wrote:
so

not lynching:
damdy
ruxx
rayn
rels
ksc
shining

yes those are in order of relative certainty

preferred lynch currently is edgar

On August 06 2015 23:50 rsoultin wrote:
though ruxx and rayn are basically interchangeable lol ><

Why would anyone ever care about "relative certainty" when you have three mafia to find and you have six townreads you do not want to lynch? Like who cares? And what does the other quote even mean?

Second; rsoultin i still want you to explain what i asked you about Shining.

third; ruxxar - do you prefer more playing as mafia or as town?


Town forever and ever.
I thank the based rng gods for rolling me town again.

so why did you decide to play like shit?
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Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 15:30 GMT
#524
On August 07 2015 00:28 rsoultin wrote:
it's not the same reasons on damdred?

and iGrok? what do you call his LaL thing? by the same reasoning, why aren't you scumreading cake and igrok since you're scumreading ruxx for it? this isn't a good argument, rayn

ye, there's a reason i'm least sure on him, but i still don't think he's the scummiest player

in all honesty, i haven't been a fan of cake's play this game. i don't think she's doing anything productive either

why are you townreading her? all you've said is you don't agree with people's scumreads, but i have a hard time seeing why anyone thinks she's actually town. can you explain it to me?

yes it is.

i am not scumreading cake because of what i just explained. cake brags, ruxxar overplays it.

but Cake is town.

because of moonlogic in one post.
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August 06 2015 15:31 GMT
#525
to elaborate more (while i have already explained this if you cared to read my posts).
They are not acting the same. iGrok has a town motivation behind his posts. So does Cake. Ruxxar does not.
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Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 15:32 GMT
#526
Like there is no reason you should as town play like shit wneh you know you can do better than "shit".
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Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 15:34 GMT
#529
On August 07 2015 00:32 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:27 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I wanted to leave early today so I just got home.
Three questions i want answered and i'll do some stuff to make the environment proper, then we go.
iGrok is not mafia.

First; rsoultin:
On August 06 2015 23:49 rsoultin wrote:
so

not lynching:
damdy
ruxx
rayn
rels
ksc
shining

yes those are in order of relative certainty

preferred lynch currently is edgar

On August 06 2015 23:50 rsoultin wrote:
though ruxx and rayn are basically interchangeable lol ><

Why would anyone ever care about "relative certainty" when you have three mafia to find and you have six townreads you do not want to lynch? Like who cares? And what does the other quote even mean?

Second; rsoultin i still want you to explain what i asked you about Shining.

third; ruxxar - do you prefer more playing as mafia or as town?


Town forever and ever.
I thank the based rng gods for rolling me town again.

so why did you decide to play like shit?


I don't think my play is shit.
Day 1 is my fun day.
I play less serious and start conversations.
I get more serious as the days go by.

bullshit
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August 06 2015 15:34 GMT
#530
On August 07 2015 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 00:32 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:27 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I wanted to leave early today so I just got home.
Three questions i want answered and i'll do some stuff to make the environment proper, then we go.
iGrok is not mafia.

First; rsoultin:
On August 06 2015 23:49 rsoultin wrote:
so

not lynching:
damdy
ruxx
rayn
rels
ksc
shining

yes those are in order of relative certainty

preferred lynch currently is edgar

On August 06 2015 23:50 rsoultin wrote:
though ruxx and rayn are basically interchangeable lol ><

Why would anyone ever care about "relative certainty" when you have three mafia to find and you have six townreads you do not want to lynch? Like who cares? And what does the other quote even mean?

Second; rsoultin i still want you to explain what i asked you about Shining.

third; ruxxar - do you prefer more playing as mafia or as town?


Town forever and ever.
I thank the based rng gods for rolling me town again.

so why did you decide to play like shit?


I don't think my play is shit.
Day 1 is my fun day.
I play less serious and start conversations.
I get more serious as the days go by.

bullshit

Like at the start of the game you literally said your play is shit.
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August 06 2015 15:38 GMT
#533
On August 07 2015 00:28 rsoultin wrote:
and iGrok? what do you call his LaL thing? by the same reasoning, why aren't you scumreading cake and igrok since you're scumreading ruxx for it? this isn't a good argument, rayn

rsoultin i have to say one thing.
when i have a read, please never anymore discredit my read based on something completely irrelevant to the read.
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August 06 2015 15:39 GMT
#535
On August 07 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote:
so you think that shining can't have some sort of "this is town-motivated and this isn't therefore they're different" reason, too? cause you have it. i have it. we may not agree on which players those line up on but clearly it's possible to see these things differently when compared to how the player is playing overall

If he does he will explain it reasonably and then i will change my vote. It's simple.
There is no reason to assume he does because he did not say it.
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August 06 2015 15:40 GMT
#536
On August 07 2015 00:39 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:32 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:27 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I wanted to leave early today so I just got home.
Three questions i want answered and i'll do some stuff to make the environment proper, then we go.
iGrok is not mafia.

First; rsoultin:
On August 06 2015 23:49 rsoultin wrote:
so

not lynching:
damdy
ruxx
rayn
rels
ksc
shining

yes those are in order of relative certainty

preferred lynch currently is edgar

On August 06 2015 23:50 rsoultin wrote:
though ruxx and rayn are basically interchangeable lol ><

Why would anyone ever care about "relative certainty" when you have three mafia to find and you have six townreads you do not want to lynch? Like who cares? And what does the other quote even mean?

Second; rsoultin i still want you to explain what i asked you about Shining.

third; ruxxar - do you prefer more playing as mafia or as town?


Town forever and ever.
I thank the based rng gods for rolling me town again.

so why did you decide to play like shit?


I don't think my play is shit.
Day 1 is my fun day.
I play less serious and start conversations.
I get more serious as the days go by.

bullshit

Like at the start of the game you literally said your play is shit.


Don't remember saying that. Quote please.

"i didn't read the thread very well and just posted at random things"
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Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 15:43 GMT
#541
On August 07 2015 00:42 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 00:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:28 rsoultin wrote:
and iGrok? what do you call his LaL thing? by the same reasoning, why aren't you scumreading cake and igrok since you're scumreading ruxx for it? this isn't a good argument, rayn

rsoultin i have to say one thing.
when i have a read, please never anymore discredit my read based on something completely irrelevant to the read.


i was contesting your reasoning because it was faulty, and demonstrating how it was faulty by giving you an example of your own play. that is not discrediting. please try not to be so sensitive

i have no issue with you pressuring shining

first of all you have no idea if my reasoning is faulty or not and i have demonstrated why this is the case.
second, i have explained why MY actions are not the same.

agree/disagree?
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Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 15:48 GMT
#542
could everyone just post a list of three mafia?

ruxxar
shining
edgar
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Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 15:51 GMT
#544
goodmorning Cake <3
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August 06 2015 15:54 GMT
#549
On August 07 2015 00:53 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 00:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:42 rsoultin wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:28 rsoultin wrote:
and iGrok? what do you call his LaL thing? by the same reasoning, why aren't you scumreading cake and igrok since you're scumreading ruxx for it? this isn't a good argument, rayn

rsoultin i have to say one thing.
when i have a read, please never anymore discredit my read based on something completely irrelevant to the read.


i was contesting your reasoning because it was faulty, and demonstrating how it was faulty by giving you an example of your own play. that is not discrediting. please try not to be so sensitive

i have no issue with you pressuring shining

first of all you have no idea if my reasoning is faulty or not and i have demonstrated why this is the case.
second, i have explained why MY actions are not the same.

agree/disagree?


i disagree?

you're assuming he's not doing it for the same reasons you are and are calling him scum for it?

omfg. I have the exact opposite conclusion he does and you say "you're assuming he's not doing it for the same reasons you are"..... Jesus christ...
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August 06 2015 15:56 GMT
#552
On August 07 2015 00:54 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 00:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
could everyone just post a list of three mafia?

ruxxar
shining
edgar


edgar top scum

anyone not on the town list you mocked i don't care if we lynch or not today. that's the purpose for the list lol ><

srsly i don't know why i have to make you play for some reason but you have six people in your scumlist.
Let's say all the people you think are town are town.

Why? Why don't you want to find mafia?
Like i know you are proud of your reads like i am, do something about it and find which of the people you called scum are town then, and help us lynch mafia.
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August 06 2015 16:00 GMT
#557
On August 07 2015 00:59 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 00:56 ruXxar wrote:
5 would lynch today ish in no particular order:

Yamato
Edgar
Igrok
Shining
Fecal feast

Mostly based in feelings, don't remember exactly what they wrote, except that it didn't give me a good town impression.

Mm maybe shining actually posted something nice but don't remember w/e.

Maybe coppy goes on the list but nah, not yet.

This is a list of Lurkers + Me.

But LAL is a bad policy... that you agree with... sometimes... but you think I'm mafia... because I'm pushing to LAL...

bwaahahahahhahaha
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August 06 2015 16:02 GMT
#563
iGrok why is Shining more likely to be town-stupid than mafia?
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Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 16:03 GMT
#566
On August 07 2015 01:02 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 00:59 iGrok wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:56 ruXxar wrote:
5 would lynch today ish in no particular order:

Yamato
Edgar
Igrok
Shining
Fecal feast

Mostly based in feelings, don't remember exactly what they wrote, except that it didn't give me a good town impression.

Mm maybe shining actually posted something nice but don't remember w/e.

Maybe coppy goes on the list but nah, not yet.

This is a list of Lurkers + Me.

But LAL is a bad policy... that you agree with... sometimes... but you think I'm mafia... because I'm pushing to LAL...


Of course you try to label all those people as Lurkers to make your point look valid ha!

Nowhere did I mention that I'm lynching them for lurking.

in fact you kinda did.
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August 06 2015 16:04 GMT
#567
On August 07 2015 01:01 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 01:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:59 iGrok wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:56 ruXxar wrote:
5 would lynch today ish in no particular order:

Yamato
Edgar
Igrok
Shining
Fecal feast

Mostly based in feelings, don't remember exactly what they wrote, except that it didn't give me a good town impression.

Mm maybe shining actually posted something nice but don't remember w/e.

Maybe coppy goes on the list but nah, not yet.

This is a list of Lurkers + Me.

But LAL is a bad policy... that you agree with... sometimes... but you think I'm mafia... because I'm pushing to LAL...

bwaahahahahhahaha

The "don't remember exactly what they wrote" part literally had me snorting with laughter lol

here ruxxar, here you did.
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Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 16:06 GMT
#570
this game is going to be so funny.
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August 06 2015 16:08 GMT
#574
On August 07 2015 01:07 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 01:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iGrok why is Shining more likely to be town-stupid than mafia?

Shining feels town-stupid because it reads like he hit a mental wall when trying to figure out FF and RX, and moved on to other people to try to do something instead of sitting there not sure about those guys.

well this doesn't make quite much sense tbh...
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#582
On August 07 2015 01:07 iGrok wrote:
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On August 07 2015 01:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iGrok why is Shining more likely to be town-stupid than mafia?

Shining feels town-stupid because it reads like he hit a mental wall when trying to figure out FF and RX, and moved on to other people to try to do something instead of sitting there not sure about those guys.

why does this make sense to you iGrok because his post literally ends with "i have to reread to get a better read on those two people", then he posts his other stuff 5min later (which means he was never going to reread in the first place).

How do you come up with this "mental wall" given the facts?
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#584
Like do you usually as town say "here is where i am atm, i have to reread to figure out this shit" then just "move on to other stuff"?
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#586
Hi Shining!

I assume you will read the whole thread before you post. Good.

Now there is going to be one explanation i will accept from you for this stuff you did i have been pushing you for.

so good luck. may the force be with you.
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#588
hrttuspatc,aroot.
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#589
On August 07 2015 01:16 iGrok wrote:
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On August 07 2015 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 01:07 iGrok wrote:
On August 07 2015 01:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iGrok why is Shining more likely to be town-stupid than mafia?

Shining feels town-stupid because it reads like he hit a mental wall when trying to figure out FF and RX, and moved on to other people to try to do something instead of sitting there not sure about those guys.

why does this make sense to you iGrok because his post literally ends with "i have to reread to get a better read on those two people", then he posts his other stuff 5min later (which means he was never going to reread in the first place).

How do you come up with this "mental wall" given the facts?

Three possibilities: He re-read and couldn't get anywhere, so he moved on.
He re-read and noticed something else that drew his attention.
He noticed something when he posted initially that drew his attention.

1 and 2 are impossible.
three is highly unlike.
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#592
On August 07 2015 01:23 Damdred wrote:
Rayn shining is town leave him alone.

Anyway I don't get the cake town read oj rayn I doubt if lynch her today though.

id lynch Edgar or Yamato currently. I'm actually curious Scotts thought process though on what he's doing

no.

fair enough. i don't assume anyone gets it.

then put your vote on Edgar. We can lynch yamato if he is not doing shit until EoD.
the thing is i have townreads on maostly everyone who is not edgar, shining and ruxxar.
I think you are wrong on two of those people. It does not matter, you can just put your vote on edgar, he is mafia anyways.
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#593
On August 07 2015 01:23 ruXxar wrote:
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On August 07 2015 01:19 CopCake wrote:
Hey rsoultin, you keep saying I am mafia and shit.

Why?

As in, elaborate, why am I mafia?

It seems I'm going to fight you.


Are you cakeleesi?

yes she is.
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#595
On August 07 2015 01:26 ruXxar wrote:
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On August 07 2015 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 01:23 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 01:19 CopCake wrote:
Hey rsoultin, you keep saying I am mafia and shit.

Why?

As in, elaborate, why am I mafia?

It seems I'm going to fight you.


Are you cakeleesi?

yes she is.


Oki, cake is town.

and why would that be?
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#598
On August 07 2015 01:27 ruXxar wrote:
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On August 07 2015 01:19 CopCake wrote:
Hey rsoultin, you keep saying I am mafia and shit.

Why?

As in, elaborate, why am I mafia?

It seems I'm going to fight you.


I like this post,

town cake is fiesty, she likes to fight.

ans scum!cake does what?
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#601
On August 07 2015 01:27 Damdred wrote:
Rayn I've correctly read shining eight in our past 50 games besides one where I sorts read him scum but spite lynched rsoultin instead for lolz. You should trust me on shining you will get s lot more from him just letting him do what he wants then forcing him down your path of answering and making him tilt

then you have a pretty good meta-read on him.
now convince me. if you think i am town it's your job because i will not go look at old games unless i want to prove something.

why is his posting different from his scum games and comparable to his town games?
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August 06 2015 16:31 GMT
#602
On August 07 2015 01:28 ruXxar wrote:
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On August 07 2015 01:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 01:27 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 01:19 CopCake wrote:
Hey rsoultin, you keep saying I am mafia and shit.

Why?

As in, elaborate, why am I mafia?

It seems I'm going to fight you.


I like this post,

town cake is fiesty, she likes to fight.

ans scum!cake does what?


very quiet

very wrong.
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August 06 2015 16:33 GMT
#605
[image loading]

Cake is Little Lamb.
Do you want to guess her alignment?
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#608
On August 07 2015 01:35 ruXxar wrote:
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On August 07 2015 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[image loading]

Cake is Little Lamb.
Do you want to guess her alignment?


what does post count have to do with anything?

...............
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#611
On August 07 2015 01:37 CopCake wrote:
Yeah, what does that has to do with my alignment here?

it has not.
the ruxxar dude you said you are town because you are "silent as mafia and talkative as town".
i just posted a post-count from the game where you were mafia and the guy asks "how is that relevant".

rofl
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#615
On August 07 2015 01:40 ruXxar wrote:
mb she plays different voice mafia and forum mafia dno.

oh rly?

if people played the same in voice and forum rsoultin would be every single time town in forum games for example.

how can you even try to compare these things?!?!?
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#616
ruxxar who do you want to lynch and why?
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#620
On August 07 2015 01:43 Damdred wrote:
So hrm how sure are you that Scott is town tayn

dick move analysis. please just do not lynch him on D1.
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#623
On August 07 2015 01:46 ruXxar wrote:
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On August 07 2015 01:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ruxxar who do you want to lynch and why?


i put up a list of ppl i'd want to lynch lemme read em more carefully and i'll give you an updated list later when i get home

one person. we can't lynch more than one person.
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#624
and now please.
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#633
On August 07 2015 01:51 CopCake wrote:
Also I want to know something

Do people here actually like, don't play when they rol mafia?


yamato does that.
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#642
On August 07 2015 01:53 ruXxar wrote:
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On August 07 2015 01:51 CopCake wrote:
Also I want to know something

Do people here actually like, don't play when they rol mafia?



i hate mafia, i get super inactive becuz im afraid to look bad

no you don't.
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#644
##unvote
##vote Edgar
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#650
On August 07 2015 02:00 The Shining wrote:
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On August 06 2015 18:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay i actually think Shining is the best lynch today:
On August 06 2015 09:01 The Shining wrote:
I hate d1. Hate it hate it hate it. And where the hell is the filter button? I'm gonna take another break from TL and they'll get rid of preview next.

Dafuq man. How do you dive without filters? How do you guys even play without filters?!

Also this is my first all vanilla game so I was thinking of ways mechanically to hunt scum. I've got iGrok at a light town lean for wanting to go at lurkers from the start, which was one of the first things I considered. I'm not sure I agree with his RSo read, but I'm trash at treading her, and most ppl, D1. But as someone mentioned, she's threatened to go full lazy lurk mode and still hasn't. Not D1 Lynch.

I'm going to have to reread since no filters and I'm on mobile(I always play mobile, sry) but I remember being ehh on FF. It's too early for an associative read but his reaction to ruxxar felt a bit forced. "Idk I don't like ruxxar" its too noncommittal. Great, I'm not sure I like him either but I'm going to reread and figure out why I do/don't. He seems too bouncy to read clearly.


On August 06 2015 09:06 The Shining wrote:
Damdred town. Clear clear thought processes and a willingness to revisit a question/topic he already discussed because Cake asked again makes it look like he has nothing to hide.

I don't like Cop feeling it necessary to point out that he's a gem, as well as giving us his own chosen example of his scum meta. It shows he's very weary of his play, and how he looks at himself as scum, and trying to influence us in that direction instead of giving us the opportunity to do so on our own. Unless that is literally his only scumgame on this site.

He literally says he does not know that to think of FF and ruxxar.
Then he says he has to re-read and instead of doing that he goes to post about something completely different.

Like i get that his posts are 5 minutes apart, but it still doesn't make any sense he feels it's more important to to make another post onto townreads (damdred) and finding out other suspects (cake) when you already have people you suspect. He just leaves his read on FF & ruxxar onto "idk" state when the most logical thing to do is to go and figure out the reads on them.

I believe he just got timid about the fact his post was called out bad and had to post something that would be considered "good".

##unvote
##vote The Shining


ruxxar and edgar still mafia but this is my strongest scumread.


Cool. Lynch town. I don't really want to play without filters, anyway. Thanks for noticing my posts were 5 mins apart, though. I just had the other reads fresh on my mind as well and wanted to post them so that if I brought them up later, my reads wouldn't be "contrived." I always put whatever is on my mind in thread when it's on my mind.

shut up and play.
no need to bitch about anything at this point.
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#653
Shining i suggest you read the thread and post when you are done with it.
Please do that if you are town.
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#655
On August 07 2015 02:07 rsoultin wrote:
##vote edgar

hey rayn...do you really think igrok is going about his scumread correctly?

i can't read him this way -_-

i don't know what iGrok is.
In case it has not been clear i have been giving him space to do what he wants to do.
Some people do not work well with them being asked millions of questions about their playstyle because it ends up in "no you" sort of an argument which leads noone anywhere. If he does not contribute reasonably enough by the EoD he can be lynched. Right now, based on what has been going on in the thread (and sorry - but imo for how you have acted mainly towards him) i think he has been reasonable.

let him do his shit, call it out later. We are not even 24h into D1.
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#656
Like rsoultin in this case i think you are enabling him if he is mafia, and you are giving him wrong signals if he is town.
Back off for a while, and we'll see what he says.
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#659
The Shining would maybe be the third person who i let do this catch up thing besides marv and Ange.
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#662
On August 07 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like rsoultin in this case i think you are enabling him if he is mafia, and you are giving him wrong signals if he is town.
Back off for a while, and we'll see what he says.


lol >< he's just not even working with me when i've been trying to get him to since last night but okay

if you really think that my behavior (which has been fairly reasonable imo all things considered) is enough to justify his lack of play, then i can let it go for a little bit

he thinks you are mafia. why should he work with you?
i never work with people i am sure are mafia.

he is saying you are not doing shit. It was imo reasonable earlier. Now you two are in a "no you" contest.
I suggest you both let it go, if either of you think the other one is mafia by the eod then it is a different story.
Right now discussing it goes nowhere.

for the record your vote on Edgar was really townie. Thank you.
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#667
hrttuspatc,aroot.

he
read
the
thread
until
some
point
and
then
continued,
and
ran
out
of
time.

yo Shining is town.
dat shit is good.
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#669
On August 07 2015 02:24 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like rsoultin in this case i think you are enabling him if he is mafia, and you are giving him wrong signals if he is town.
Back off for a while, and we'll see what he says.


lol >< he's just not even working with me when i've been trying to get him to since last night but okay

if you really think that my behavior (which has been fairly reasonable imo all things considered) is enough to justify his lack of play, then i can let it go for a little bit

he thinks you are mafia. why should he work with you?
i never work with people i am sure are mafia.

he is saying you are not doing shit. It was imo reasonable earlier. Now you two are in a "no you" contest.
I suggest you both let it go, if either of you think the other one is mafia by the eod then it is a different story.
Right now discussing it goes nowhere.

for the record your vote on Edgar was really townie. Thank you.


edgar is my top scumread you goof lol >< don't thank me. it's called playing the game

i'm just discussing other reads now, but i don't have to discuss grok for awhile

hrum

i suggest you take another look at ruxxar.
if you need me to explain more i can do it.
i think yamato is likely to be the third mafia.
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August 06 2015 17:27 GMT
#670
or rsoultin, if you do not think ruxxar is mafia then who is?
i do not accept scott as an answer.
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#672
On August 07 2015 02:26 ruXxar wrote:
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On August 07 2015 02:22 The Shining wrote:
Not going too indepth in it but I think rsoultin is town, rayn as well. The interaction with them, although tense, seems genuine on both sides and I like that RSo tries to de-escalate while also still explaining her reads and everything rayn is attacking her for. But I don't agree with the ruxxar read...it's mostly based on meta. It's better than nothing but going off of this game, I'm not seeing town motivation in his posts.


You should trust rsouls read in me
She reads me like a book when I'm mafia, I have nowhere to hide.

can you give an example game for this?
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#675
On August 07 2015 02:29 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:26 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:22 The Shining wrote:
Not going too indepth in it but I think rsoultin is town, rayn as well. The interaction with them, although tense, seems genuine on both sides and I like that RSo tries to de-escalate while also still explaining her reads and everything rayn is attacking her for. But I don't agree with the ruxxar read...it's mostly based on meta. It's better than nothing but going off of this game, I'm not seeing town motivation in his posts.


You should trust rsouls read in me
She reads me like a book when I'm mafia, I have nowhere to hide.

can you give an example game for this?


Himalayas.

no in fact she caught bugs, not you.
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#677
rsoultin i can explain to you what the problem with ruxxar is if you really want to.
If i am wrong then i am wrong but i think he is playing you and Damdred, and you are just incapable of seeing it.
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#682
On August 07 2015 02:34 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:29 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:26 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:22 The Shining wrote:
Not going too indepth in it but I think rsoultin is town, rayn as well. The interaction with them, although tense, seems genuine on both sides and I like that RSo tries to de-escalate while also still explaining her reads and everything rayn is attacking her for. But I don't agree with the ruxxar read...it's mostly based on meta. It's better than nothing but going off of this game, I'm not seeing town motivation in his posts.


You should trust rsouls read in me
She reads me like a book when I'm mafia, I have nowhere to hide.

can you give an example game for this?


Himalayas.

no in fact she caught bugs, not you.


i in fact caught him, rayn

please don't undermine me

it was his first scumgame, and don't even try to tell me that bugs read noone else had was not influencial to that.
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#684
On August 07 2015 02:36 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin i can explain to you what the problem with ruxxar is if you really want to.
If i am wrong then i am wrong but i think he is playing you and Damdred, and you are just incapable of seeing it.


i'm fine with you explaining it? he could be playing us...he's actually a good player from what i've seen lol

but i don't think he is? what makes you think he is? just because he townread us quick?

no, because he is not "being stupid or irrational or whatever". he is ACTING like he is.
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#687
On August 07 2015 02:40 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:36 rsoultin wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin i can explain to you what the problem with ruxxar is if you really want to.
If i am wrong then i am wrong but i think he is playing you and Damdred, and you are just incapable of seeing it.


i'm fine with you explaining it? he could be playing us...he's actually a good player from what i've seen lol

but i don't think he is? what makes you think he is? just because he townread us quick?

no, because he is not "being stupid or irrational or whatever". he is ACTING like he is.


???

okay, prove it?

i think i have already.
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August 06 2015 17:42 GMT
#688
rsoultin it is really easy to fake tone if you aren't doing anything worth anything.
you just troll... like he is doing.
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August 06 2015 17:45 GMT
#693
like when i told him in the last NSM game, "i think you are one of the people who is really fucking stupid as town and really sharp as mafia", he immediately stepped up his game. I gave him compliment about that in the game thread on D2, and in the OBS QT when i died. He was literally the best player after D2, not only because he was right, but because he was making 100% sense. So it proves he can play properly and REALLY well, and for a player who is new, this should be a kickstart to think "wow i am not that bad, i can be good".

In this game, he decides to act like braindead -- INTENTIONALLY!!

why? why would you do that?
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#694
On August 07 2015 02:44 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:43 iGrok wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:36 The Shining wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:26 Rels wrote:
@Shining when you come back:
I would like to have your read on iGrok.


Probably my least sure scumread out of Edgar, ruxxar, igrok. I'm not really seeing scum in anyone else, except maybe Scott, but I'm only suspicious because of activity. I'm on page 27 right now and still haven't caught anything but rayn defending igrok(with good logic, let him play since the pressuring could make him useless) and I still don't see any reads from iGrok outside of RSo. He even had a post regarding the split between LAL and the dissenters but hasn't made a post about any other scumreads. And with him having RSo at only 50% scum as top read, it seems he's very weary of committing to any one way of thinking outside of LAL

Its not me being wary of anything. We're in day 1 with 0 information. RS was a 50% scumread at the time. Thats a 100% guaranteed 50%. Easily the best chance we're going to get. I'm 100% behind lynching RS today.


This is the dumbest thing I ever read.

this is the smartest thing you have said.
please go on.
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#698
On August 07 2015 02:48 ruXxar wrote:
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On August 07 2015 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like when i told him in the last NSM game, "i think you are one of the people who is really fucking stupid as town and really sharp as mafia", he immediately stepped up his game. I gave him compliment about that in the game thread on D2, and in the OBS QT when i died. He was literally the best player after D2, not only because he was right, but because he was making 100% sense. So it proves he can play properly and REALLY well, and for a player who is new, this should be a kickstart to think "wow i am not that bad, i can be good".

In this game, he decides to act like braindead -- INTENTIONALLY!!

why? why would you do that?


I'm trying to have fun, this is how I have fun.
And then I put in some reads here and there.

how about you play mafia?
and how about you do not make these throwaway posts which makes me make a throwaway post every single fucking time.

PLAY. THE. GAME.
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#700
On August 07 2015 02:51 Damdred wrote:
He's actually right here ita a dumb statement and you ignore the entirity of the game when we actually have good information to a point so far.

who? what?
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#703
On August 07 2015 02:52 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:40 rsoultin wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:36 rsoultin wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin i can explain to you what the problem with ruxxar is if you really want to.
If i am wrong then i am wrong but i think he is playing you and Damdred, and you are just incapable of seeing it.


i'm fine with you explaining it? he could be playing us...he's actually a good player from what i've seen lol

but i don't think he is? what makes you think he is? just because he townread us quick?

no, because he is not "being stupid or irrational or whatever". he is ACTING like he is.


???

okay, prove it?

i think i have already.


eh ye

well i get your point of view...just think we're gonna have to agree to disagree at this point lol >< i understand you think the tone is easy to replicate, too, but i don't necessarily agree with that even if i can see why you'd think so

If i am right here you should never ever do tonereads anymore.
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August 06 2015 17:57 GMT
#708
On August 07 2015 02:55 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:52 rsoultin wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:40 rsoultin wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:36 rsoultin wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin i can explain to you what the problem with ruxxar is if you really want to.
If i am wrong then i am wrong but i think he is playing you and Damdred, and you are just incapable of seeing it.


i'm fine with you explaining it? he could be playing us...he's actually a good player from what i've seen lol

but i don't think he is? what makes you think he is? just because he townread us quick?

no, because he is not "being stupid or irrational or whatever". he is ACTING like he is.


???

okay, prove it?

i think i have already.


eh ye

well i get your point of view...just think we're gonna have to agree to disagree at this point lol >< i understand you think the tone is easy to replicate, too, but i don't necessarily agree with that even if i can see why you'd think so

If i am right here you should never ever do tonereads anymore.


but then i wouldn't be able to godread damdy even when he can't play much! lol ><

no deal

that said, i'm probably right anyway and it doesn't even matter ^^

if you want to bet me something for lolz we can do that...maybe another drunk "piano man" session? you have to siiiiing for me if i'm right lol

i ma sorry i cant, i get thrown out of my apartment if i do that once more.
also my read on Damdred is also godlike.
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August 06 2015 18:01 GMT
#712
cake y u so silent?
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August 06 2015 18:04 GMT
#716
On August 07 2015 03:01 Damdred wrote:
I'm feeling its Edgar, Yamato and one of ff/scott just a gut feels

It's Edgar for sure.
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August 06 2015 18:05 GMT
#717
On August 07 2015 03:03 Damdred wrote:
And I'm so getting shot tonight it feels like w.q

and this is a bad post if you think Edgar is mafia AND unless you think either me or Rels is mafia.
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August 06 2015 18:08 GMT
#722
On August 07 2015 03:06 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 03:03 Damdred wrote:
And I'm so getting shot tonight it feels like w.q

and this is a bad post if you think Edgar is mafia AND unless you think either me or Rels is mafia.


why is it a bad post?

Because me and Rels are literally the most towniest people in the thread.
It only becomes stronger if Edgar is mafia.
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August 06 2015 18:08 GMT
#723
Kelsier why do you dislike Cake?
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August 06 2015 18:10 GMT
#725
On August 07 2015 03:10 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 03:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 03:06 CopCake wrote:
On August 07 2015 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 03:03 Damdred wrote:
And I'm so getting shot tonight it feels like w.q

and this is a bad post if you think Edgar is mafia AND unless you think either me or Rels is mafia.


why is it a bad post?

Because me and Rels are literally the most towniest people in the thread.
It only becomes stronger if Edgar is mafia.


Damnred also looks super super town, and what if you have as town a mafia person?

wouldn't that mean they would prefer to take down damnred?

no it wouldn't.
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August 06 2015 18:13 GMT
#729
On August 07 2015 03:12 CopCake wrote:
never close the choices rayn.

NEVER.


You can talk about that more when we lynch mafia and then i die.
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August 06 2015 18:15 GMT
#731
On August 07 2015 03:14 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 03:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Kelsier why do you dislike Cake?


I think the entry post was bad, The whole "tell me why you are town"

She incorrectly thought you had been pushing grok when you were actually ok with his opening post.

and then she just hasn't been as "in your my face" i guess or really digging for info which is apparently how she works.

this is odd i agree.
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August 06 2015 18:17 GMT
#736
On August 07 2015 03:16 KelsierSC wrote:
what is the town read on FF here? what was his good post?

the post on ruxxar.
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August 06 2015 18:17 GMT
#737
on page 17 or smth.
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August 06 2015 18:18 GMT
#739
On August 06 2015 10:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why don't you wow me for a change? the two afkers would be cool to hear from.

ruxxar, to me, seems like he's trying really hard to act silly while not forgetting to mention that as scum he is totally serious. Self meta is poop.

the shining is ok, saying he hates day 1 but still throwing out ideas, I just didn't like that first post at first glance.

someone get me some coffee I'm sleepy

on p18, sorry.
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August 06 2015 18:23 GMT
#741
Kelsier what was Cake's entry post?
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Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 18:25 GMT
#742
Would anyone believe me if i told you i am listening to Madonna atm?
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August 06 2015 18:29 GMT
#744
On August 07 2015 03:27 ruXxar wrote:
Mm.

Can we get a vote count?

I'll help lynch edgar since he's got a train on him.

##Unvote
##Vote edgar

I thought you think iGrok is mafia no?
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Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 18:30 GMT
#747
On August 07 2015 03:29 KelsierSC wrote:
hmm i posted in the wrong game

yeh so about FF it's a good observation , meh I sort of want him to put a bit more about.

entry post was


"Oh fuck I believed I had already posted when I went to look which page this game starts.

Sup everyone

Tell me why you are forever towns and I will tell you if I disagree or not."



in fact i am prettys ure this was not her entry post.
even if it is, why is it scummy?
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August 06 2015 18:37 GMT
#751
On August 06 2015 07:34 CopCake wrote:
Hello friends, I believed there was another thread for the game.

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Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 18:39 GMT
#753
Kelsier is this a scummy post?
On July 24 2015 07:03 someone wrote:
posting so i don't get modkilled.

why/why not?
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August 06 2015 18:43 GMT
#756
On August 07 2015 03:41 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 03:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Kelsier is this a scummy post?
On July 24 2015 07:03 someone wrote:
posting so i don't get modkilled.

why/why not?


sneaky rayn, I've seen this post before

sometimes you should keep your mouth shut.
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Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 18:45 GMT
#761
##unvote
##vote EdgarAllenPoE
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August 06 2015 18:50 GMT
#765
On August 07 2015 03:47 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 03:41 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 03:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Kelsier is this a scummy post?
On July 24 2015 07:03 someone wrote:
posting so i don't get modkilled.

why/why not?


sneaky rayn, I've seen this post before


I don't understand how that is relevant

I explained why I thought cake's post was scummy. if you agree great, if you think i'm wrong explain why.

because it is based on the difference on playstyles.
you have around ~50 posts from her, yet this is the one you call out.
is there really nothing else to call her scum for?

is there nothing else to call anyone scum for? why do you focus on this instead of other things?
i mean, if this is your only reason to call someone MOST LIKELY mafia, then you are either wrong or scum.
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Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 18:52 GMT
#766
*most likely
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Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 18:53 GMT
#770
rsoultin didn't we also sing losing my religion? .)
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August 06 2015 18:54 GMT
#771
On August 07 2015 03:52 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 03:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 03:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 07 2015 03:41 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 03:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Kelsier is this a scummy post?
On July 24 2015 07:03 someone wrote:
posting so i don't get modkilled.

why/why not?


sneaky rayn, I've seen this post before


I don't understand how that is relevant

I explained why I thought cake's post was scummy. if you agree great, if you think i'm wrong explain why.

because it is based on the difference on playstyles.
you have around ~50 posts from her, yet this is the one you call out.
is there really nothing else to call her scum for?

is there nothing else to call anyone scum for? why do you focus on this instead of other things?
i mean, if this is your only reason to call someone MOST LIKELY mafia, then you are either wrong or scum.


you know you asked me why i disliked her and i gave 3 reasons

then you asked me specifically why i didn't like her entry post.

yeh it's a total mystery why I might talk about these things.


well she is not mafia.
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August 06 2015 18:57 GMT
#773
i am going to be honest here.
i am gonna go to a rock festival tomorrow, which makes me most likely not gonna be around for the DL.
yay my "summer vacation". \o/

so, i want to put my thoughts up there as much as i can. if i seem abrasive just tell me to quit for a while.
I won't be here anyways after ~5-7 hours unless between the gigs.

I want to ltynch mafia, and i think the baest chance to do that is atm Edgar -> ruxxar -> yamato.
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August 06 2015 19:04 GMT
#779
On August 07 2015 04:02 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 04:00 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 03:57 iGrok wrote:
On August 07 2015 03:52 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 03:48 iGrok wrote:
On August 07 2015 03:33 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 03:32 iGrok wrote:
On August 07 2015 03:29 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 03:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 03:27 ruXxar wrote:
Mm.

Can we get a vote count?

I'll help lynch edgar since he's got a train on him.

##Unvote
##Vote edgar

I thought you think iGrok is mafia no?


He is

Why aren't you voting for me?


I was

No shit.

Why aren;t you anymore?


Because there are 3 scum.

Do you think I'm scum?


Yes

Why would you take your vote off of me, when I was the leading vote, if you thought I was scum?

bcz scum but rsoultin and damdred dumb so no can lynch.
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Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 19:09 GMT
#783
On August 07 2015 04:08 Damdred wrote:
You know rayn idk why I even play games anymore when you insult me so much its not like I lynch scum on my own or anything

I have no idea why you have come to this conclusion but...
idk?!?!? w00t?
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Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 19:12 GMT
#786
damdred please tell me where do i insult you.
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August 06 2015 19:14 GMT
#790
On August 07 2015 04:13 rsoultin wrote:
you called us dumb. pretty obv rayn

yeah and he posts for like a fucking day normally and now gets all demotivated?
no it is not that.
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Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 19:16 GMT
#792
and yeah, i really want to know what i have done wrong if i have done something wrong.
so please, tell me damdred.
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August 06 2015 19:37 GMT
#801
On August 07 2015 04:32 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 04:30 iGrok wrote:
On August 07 2015 04:26 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 04:09 iGrok wrote:
Horrible because its false, not because its particularly illogical.


Im expecting an apology from you.
Calling me horrible because of your lies is no gucci.

I didn't call you horrible, I called your logic horrible. I try to refrain from personal attacks, but the amount of bullshit in this game is making it difficult to do that.


But you lied about the vote counts.
So my logic isn't horrible.

So you made me look like shit with a lie.

You should apologize for being wrong.

No.
You should call him mafia if he is misrepping you.
not "apologize plz".
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Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 19:42 GMT
#803
##unvote
##vote ruxxar

rsoultin i assure you he is mafia.
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August 06 2015 19:50 GMT
#810
On August 07 2015 04:49 CopCake wrote:
Rayn why ruxxar??

I would go for edgar, yamatto and kelsier.


edgar is okay, yamato is meh, kelsier is not mafia.
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August 06 2015 19:56 GMT
#816
On August 07 2015 04:53 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 04:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote ruxxar

rsoultin i assure you he is mafia.


i'm okay with being wrong d1? i'm sure if he's really mafia it'll become clear to me too before like...i die lol ><

edgar is prob mafia. let's kill him

it is the fact that when i die on N1 noone is gonna say "hey ruxxar is mafia".
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August 06 2015 19:57 GMT
#817
On August 07 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:
ksc is town

+1
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Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 06 2015 20:01 GMT
#819
On August 07 2015 04:58 Alakaslam wrote:
Hey has the vote counter been working or do I not understand that thing? I didn't see a single vote count but I was reading quick.

no there is not a single vote count.
You should probably talk with your co-host instead of players.....
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August 06 2015 20:03 GMT
#822
i generally do not trust people.
i do trust me in my reads.
i think you both are wrong.
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August 06 2015 20:09 GMT
#825
On August 07 2015 05:07 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 05:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i generally do not trust people.
i do trust me in my reads.
i think you both are wrong.


and i think you're wrong?

so um...yeah lol ><

did you read what i wrote about ruxxar?
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August 06 2015 20:40 GMT
#835
On August 07 2015 05:36 Damdred wrote:
Sorry rayn I didn't mean to react that way just been at the hospital all day with my dad while,he's in surgery and got upset that's on me I'm not really offended or dislike playing with you,

Now I will 're evaluate Ruxxor though. Yamato can you tell,me,what to think,about grok

np. hope your dad is okay,. :/
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August 07 2015 07:56 GMT
#979
hey!
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August 07 2015 07:58 GMT
#981
but i want to murder ruxxar.
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August 07 2015 08:02 GMT
#984
##unvote
##vote edgarallanpoe

fine fine. i just wanted to lynch the active scum instead.
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Finland43268 Posts
August 07 2015 08:12 GMT
#985
I am leaving in like three hours and will most likely not be back before the deadline.
well i might check the game via phone between the gigs unless i am too drunk.

happy summer vacation!
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Finland43268 Posts
August 07 2015 08:14 GMT
#986
but if we really want to lynch mafia 100% we should lynch yamato.
because he is mafia.
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August 07 2015 08:54 GMT
#989
not if you want it.
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August 07 2015 09:42 GMT
#996
yeah let's just murder Edgar.
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August 07 2015 09:42 GMT
#997
like the fact that he said he doesn't know what to think and then he votes for iGrok in the next sentence is pure mafia.
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August 07 2015 09:43 GMT
#998
rels you are overthinking stuff.
do not overthink.

it's an ez game ez lyfe.
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Finland43268 Posts
August 07 2015 10:31 GMT
#1002
but he is mafia because of this:
On August 07 2015 18:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like the fact that he said he doesn't know what to think and then he votes for iGrok in the next sentence is pure mafia.

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August 07 2015 11:42 GMT
#1005
okay now i gtg.
see you guys on sunday and occasionally before

lynch edgar, or yamato.
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Finland43268 Posts
August 07 2015 22:54 GMT
#1382
I quit.
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August 07 2015 22:56 GMT
#1384
You all are worse i have ever been.
Edgar please never post to this for um agin or i will kick you in the head irl.
I will fucking huntnyou down and do it.

Peace.
Not gonna play this shit anymore.
I was town.
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August 07 2015 23:00 GMT
#1388
On August 08 2015 07:57 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You all are worse i have ever been.
Edgar please never post to this for um agin or i will kick you in the head irl.
I will fucking huntnyou down and do it.

Peace.
Not gonna play this shit anymore.
I was town.


seriously?

Yes
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August 07 2015 23:09 GMT
#1393
If some fucking braindead retard ruins the game so be it.
Yes edgar. You are a braindead retard. Go die irl.
I have lost my passion for this one.
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August 07 2015 23:10 GMT
#1394
Yo arseholes ruxxar is mafia.
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Finland43268 Posts
August 08 2015 09:18 GMT
#1421
wow Holyflare what the fuck?

##abort
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August 08 2015 09:44 GMT
#1426
I understand.
I will however always post like that if someone intentionally ruins the game.
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August 08 2015 10:02 GMT
#1429
Apparently nowadays there are people who think it is okay they run the game or make their own rules instead of hosts...

Idk what to say anymore.
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August 08 2015 10:44 GMT
#1442
On August 08 2015 19:40 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 19:30 scott31337 wrote:
I dislike the way people play this game now. It's all ad hom and useless posts and is actually just generally very poor.

Have you read the game now ? There were no ad hom or useless posts until eod.

Yeah. It was all cool.
And obviously holyflare's rule break had nothing to do with the ad hom later. Obviously. How could someone ever think it would.
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August 08 2015 10:58 GMT
#1447
There is a rule that says in bold blue text:
"This is a mod font. Please do not use it."

Like you can argue that if you continue posting after death people can just ignore your posts and play the game. But it is as stupid as this.

And yeah i do apologize for whqt i said to you. But the point still stands.
I cant fucking understand how people think they are somehow above the hosts and do this shit INTENTIONALLY?!?!

Even if you think you did nothing wrong can you at least see what it caused? And rethink. Even for a little bit?
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August 08 2015 10:59 GMT
#1449
On August 08 2015 19:55 Holyflare wrote:
Simply put it's a silly concept that a player can be warned and banned and a replacement list can be made for players who are inactive but as soon as a host is and someone decides to preserve the game state and deadline times while a host is afk it's unacceptable and people go crazy and wish for a person to die? Ok igrok.

Then you should bring their hosting up elsewhere.
At least i do that if i think someone's hosting is unacceptable.
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August 08 2015 11:10 GMT
#1452
Of course it would be okay because he is a host and you are not.
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August 08 2015 11:29 GMT
#1459
On August 08 2015 20:14 Holyflare wrote:
And how has what I posted altered any of your views of the game or given anything other than my alignment away? The rule for posting after death is clearly meant for circumstances which give game altering information away.


You can do or say whatever you want to be honest. In no way did I insult alakaslam or anyone, I simply wanted the game to continue. Alakaslam's post if you actually read it misconstrues every post to have an alterior motive behind it which it does not. My first post was simply a rhetorical I guess they forgot post. The other posts were so alakaslam could simply maintain that the integrity of the game was still intact and was not an attack on his intelligence in the slightest.

Grow up people, learn to not be fucking rule whores and adapt to circumstances. Cya never.

Well for starters these two things.

Yamato's alignment is a crapshoot for now on. I dont know if it is a mafia strategy to call things borderline cheating and get demotivated, or if he is being genuine as town.. what i do know is that he will get demotivated as either alignment and basically wont play the game any more because he thinks it's invalid. And i dont fault him for that.

Scott still thought you are mafia when you posted your flip. He thought you were lying. Well yeah it makes him town.

So yeah. There were two things that definitely affected the game purely based on your actions.
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August 08 2015 12:17 GMT
#1461
Well who was mafia?
rsoultin yamato kelsier?
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Finland43268 Posts
August 08 2015 17:30 GMT
#1480
Well played cake.
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