EPTpalmar switched last minute to ft, and ksc attempted to switch last minute to scott and failed
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palmar switched last minute to ft, and ksc attempted to switch last minute to scott and failed | ||
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what is your argument, even? | ||
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On July 25 2015 16:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Last thought before bed: I want to know why scott gave ksc posts + what his read on ksc is now. He had this whole bit on not liking ksc's entrance, ksc came back with "you can't find me scummy if you don't find anyone else scummy" (which makes no sense at all) and then scott immediately left him alone and gave him posts. Made no sense at all. On July 25 2015 22:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I don't really think I've misrep'd kelsier at all? That's how it read to me. /shrug I'm not even trying to say I have an issue with kelsier. I've liked a lot of his questioning thus far. It's scott I didn't like, because I didn't understand how his read evolved. On July 26 2015 13:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Iuno. Like. I know what you're saying and I also want to lynch scott. I was kind of aware of the idea behind what you were saying but I felt like there was something I was missing from your post. Like in hindsight it was kind of obvious but still. On July 27 2015 00:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote: On phone. Current lynch list: scott. Probably ft. Also hi. On July 27 2015 02:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Anyways I'm going to vote FT. My biggest issue with him was that he came up with all of these reasons to vote Palmar, but disappeared after throwing his vote down. Not only did it feel very token, but he did so at a time where the VC looked really terrible in terms of vote spread. I'm also willing to switch to scott but I don't know how much more I can say about him that hasn't already been done to death. On July 27 2015 04:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote: /shrug I don't actually have much of a preference between the two. Also I just looked into clarity's filter and, yeah, it's kinda garbage. On July 27 2015 06:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm not arguing against a Clarity lynch. I just feel very confident in my FT read. On July 27 2015 06:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Scott, you had clarity as mafia like all game. How did he become town and then mafia again? On July 27 2015 06:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Yeah we don't have the people to switch to scott. Even then I still want to lynch FT. Let's go with that. okay, these are all the mentions of scott d1 in ows' filter, and this is what had me going i might be wrong on obi last night (i think i included the relevant posts on tofu as well? but probably best just to reread the pages leading up to the lynch to get the full context in case i missed anything) here it's clear that he's more than willing to lynch scott, ye? if you look at the voting from d1, there was a strong train on ft some key points: - clarity was afk; there was going to be no help from that quarter, and there's a distinct possibility that they didn't know he'd be afk all day like that - palmar was never voting scott - i'd already said i'd vote ft over scott - snickers was afk most of the other players showed no interest in voting scott over ft, either, unless they were already on the scott wagon i'm not saying this makes ows scum, but i am saying that by EoD he couldn't switch to scott even if he wanted to, and the fact that he kept bringing scott up makes it likely that he would have if he were scum...if it was actually an option to save ft but given the votes and the opinions of those voting, it wasn't | ||
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On August 10 2015 00:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Haven't we been arguing that onegu is also town because he didn't switch? Why doesn't that mean anything for him? i haven't been arguing about his d1 vote at all, that i recall. it's certainly not the main reason(s) i'm townreading him | ||
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On August 09 2015 02:43 rsoultin wrote: ya know what? i'm not gonna do the silent thing scum is ows gb toneread is too good plus i stand by my initial read. it's too similar to the palmar read on snickers that palmar somehow never realized i made long before he did lol >< some reactions simply aren't natural onegu is town because balance, because blue role, because this is his town meta, because he's bold enough to switch wagons over if he wants to, and because he's not trying and no matter how often he says that he'll try to break his meta as scum, i no more believe he's capable of ignoring the game as his favorite role than the rest of us are capable of doing it as town i apologize to everyone for letting obi pocket me. he's been blatantly sheeping me all game and i've been one of his only advocates. i don't know why it's taken me this long to become bothered by him constantly sticking up for me ever time someone scumreads me, except i guess because...well..i feel like i should be unquestionably townread lynch obi if i'm not around i suspect the nk ends up being gb, however, cause oneg lol >< ye, obi...have fun with this one  i could have waited but blahthat's the main reason i'm townreading him his play at the start of the day phase was excited, like he thought he'd caught you out and tricked you lol >< that he then reconsidered after rereading d1...it's just the way he's been approaching this phase in general doesn't seem very scumlike to me. he's interested, probing, changing his mind based on new information, and yes he doesn't seem to be playing to survive all you did was get mad as if my reads are ever based on just one thing -snorts- | ||
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i just clearly demonstrated going through your filter that you would have voted for scott. that means that onegu actually could have saved ft if he was scum and you were town by shifting his vote there. he wasn't backed into the same corner | ||
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On August 10 2015 00:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Except I wouldn't have: :/ I have no idea where this "you would totally switch" narrative is coming from. as scum you would have already determined that you couldn't save scott by the time you wrote that post. it was already in the post! this is "evidence"? in your posts preceding that you clearly were fine with either lynch -shrugs- and yes of course oneg, in lylo, as the last scum, plays to survive because that's how he wins. you're not this daft lol so when are you going to find a way to try to say i'm scum and vote for me, ows? i've been waaaaaaiting ^^ | ||
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i'm not going to argue in circles with you i'm saying this weakens your voting on ft d1. no more. no less. i think oneg looks more townie than you. in part because of that lynch. in part because of how he approached this day phase and what i know of his play you can pretend to be dull and not realize that being the last scum in lylo is different than fake-claiming vig and openly shooting the towniest player when he still had scummates and it wasn't lylo prove to me oneg is scummier than you are. that's the only way i change my vote or find a way to say i'm scum and vote me -shrugs- those are your only options | ||
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On August 10 2015 02:25 Onegu wrote: God not having filters is killing esports. So a few things confusing me here. Like why the Palmar NK over a town Rsoul? Like iirc he was pushing for Rsoul and my lynches. So if Obi is scum why the NK on him over Rsoul no offense to Palmar but when he is town he is good day 1 or like not at all. Second still the day 1 votes. Not attempting to save FT. Like rsoul said something about clairty not being there and possible that scum didnt know it but I thought he posted in thread that he was leaving. I dont know the timing of that though and I am really lazy to look. Bleh also losing to a scum rsoul would like make me drink myself into oblivion. So honestly I really want to lynch her just so I am 100% sure I dont lose to a scum rsoul... i'm town because i'm town and because i started the lynch on slam that otherwise would have been an uncontested mislynch between bf/gb, both now confirmed town this is irrefutable this i would never do as scum read the thread around the d1 vote onegu. if clarity is not there, how does obi get scott lynched with palmar and myself not voting scott, snickers gone and clarity gone? and most likely i'm still alive because i've been hard-defending obi since n2 when others wanted to lynch him -_- while leading mislynches on 3 town players. but that's just conjecture palmar also majorly picked up the day he got shot lol i was so happy he was actually playing and i wasn't dragging this town around by myself | ||
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On August 10 2015 00:13 rsoultin wrote: + Show Spoiler + On July 25 2015 16:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Last thought before bed: I want to know why scott gave ksc posts + what his read on ksc is now. He had this whole bit on not liking ksc's entrance, ksc came back with "you can't find me scummy if you don't find anyone else scummy" (which makes no sense at all) and then scott immediately left him alone and gave him posts. Made no sense at all. On July 25 2015 22:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I don't really think I've misrep'd kelsier at all? That's how it read to me. /shrug I'm not even trying to say I have an issue with kelsier. I've liked a lot of his questioning thus far. It's scott I didn't like, because I didn't understand how his read evolved. On July 26 2015 13:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Iuno. Like. I know what you're saying and I also want to lynch scott. I was kind of aware of the idea behind what you were saying but I felt like there was something I was missing from your post. Like in hindsight it was kind of obvious but still. On July 27 2015 00:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote: On phone. Current lynch list: scott. Probably ft. Also hi. On July 27 2015 02:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Anyways I'm going to vote FT. My biggest issue with him was that he came up with all of these reasons to vote Palmar, but disappeared after throwing his vote down. Not only did it feel very token, but he did so at a time where the VC looked really terrible in terms of vote spread. I'm also willing to switch to scott but I don't know how much more I can say about him that hasn't already been done to death. On July 27 2015 04:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote: /shrug I don't actually have much of a preference between the two. Also I just looked into clarity's filter and, yeah, it's kinda garbage. On July 27 2015 06:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm not arguing against a Clarity lynch. I just feel very confident in my FT read. On July 27 2015 06:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Scott, you had clarity as mafia like all game. How did he become town and then mafia again? On July 27 2015 06:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Yeah we don't have the people to switch to scott. Even then I still want to lynch FT. Let's go with that. okay, these are all the mentions of scott d1 in ows' filter, and this is what had me going i might be wrong on obi last night (i think i included the relevant posts on tofu as well? but probably best just to reread the pages leading up to the lynch to get the full context in case i missed anything) here it's clear that he's more than willing to lynch scott, ye? if you look at the voting from d1, there was a strong train on ft some key points: - clarity was afk; there was going to be no help from that quarter, and there's a distinct possibility that they didn't know he'd be afk all day like that - palmar was never voting scott - i'd already said i'd vote ft over scott - snickers was afk most of the other players showed no interest in voting scott over ft, either, unless they were already on the scott wagon i'm not saying this makes ows scum, but i am saying that by EoD he couldn't switch to scott even if he wanted to, and the fact that he kept bringing scott up makes it likely that he would have if he were scum...if it was actually an option to save ft but given the votes and the opinions of those voting, it wasn't call me scum ows ^^ the posts are in the spoiler, every time you mentioned scott d1 | ||
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On August 10 2015 03:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Onegu, talk to me. What did you think of what I said about rso saying you don't play recklessly as scum? All you commented on was the fact that I looked at a single scumgame of yours, which kind of wasn't the point of what I was saying. not even what i said ^^ | ||
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there are two players trying to lynch scum today lol >< i'm not sure what obi is doing. he tries to say that my reasoning is bad by me saying that your play is suicidal and you wouldn't do that as the last scum in lylo...but clearly you're bold as scum so that doesn't apply here! \o/ he's not calling me scum or voting for me but he wants you to comment on my reasoning? it's like he wants you to keep your vote where it is while supposedly he thinks you're scum and i'm not he's not making any genuine effort to convince me to lynch you, either obi, i'll listen to what you have to say, but you haven't posted anything as to why oneg is scum, just said that he could do these things as scum. i don't agree. what's scummy about oneg's play? | ||
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that's not what's happening this game, though explain to me what my scum motivation was in slam's lynch? or even in the d1 lynch? tell me straight how you can even begin to rationalize i'm scum here we can win this if you're willing to set aside your obstinance lol >< otherwise...eh, i kinda deserve getting mislynched in lylo for being so horrible and misleading town 3 lynches in a row. would rather win, though. shame to throw this game away after lynching scum d1 and d2 | ||
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