Newbie Student Mafia XIII

On July 22 2015 07:22 Damdred wrote:
/In newb slot

On July 23 2015 03:19 scott31337 wrote:
That's untrue - last four games of mine I have been VT.

On July 23 2015 06:43 n00bKing wrote:

Co-hosting probably requires more attention than playing Cannons. I think Cannons could be fun, but thinking in that game is somewhere between "optional" and "pointless."

On July 25 2015 02:49 disformation wrote:


Hmmm... I know these cards have meanings. Do you have any interpretation of these? Can you link these interpretations to their posts so far?
Can I has a card, too?
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 25 2015 01:13 ruXxar wrote:


*Ruxx sits a while in silence and regards the cards each in turn slowly, studying the intricate decorations and inscriptions, the art whisked out by the tides of time.He looks back up and makes eye eye contact with Ticktock. A silence descends upon the world and all outside noise fades away. Keeping the gaze fixated Ruxx rummages his pockets and drags out a curled 5$ note. He straightens it carefully before laying it down on the table in plain sight.
- I don't speak tarot, give me the human readable explanation*

On July 24 2015 19:41 Tictock wrote:
Drew a few cards for some of ya. I would appreciate it if you could take a look at your card and give me your impression of it.

People chosen by some means.

n00b - 4 of Wands - Completion
+ Show Spoiler +

rayn - 4 of Cups - Luxury
+ Show Spoiler +

Moosy - Knight of Swords
+ Show Spoiler +

ruXx - Ace of Disks
+ Show Spoiler +

Noc -7 of Wands - Valor
+ Show Spoiler +

Flex - Kight of Cups
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 25 2015 03:55 ruXxar wrote:


zzzz, cut the crapperonies.
GIve us some reads in plain text.

On July 24 2015 17:53 Rels wrote:
Alright here I go.


This first post from NocturneMage seems very prepared to me. And prepared post = scumlean. Why is it prepared ? Let me show you.

RNG gave me town, thank God. I'm having a beer or two. Might be three. Not sure yet. <= VT claim + fluff about beer.

ruXxar sounds like he's sick of playing scum though. <= Discussion about something in game.

Although if the moderator is going to make this a Pokemon themed game, I really don't know what to say. <= Funny remark about host.

So three different subjects in first post = prepared post. And prepared post means he may be afraid to post, hence why he prepared it so much.

Plus in his later posts there are lots of questions + "i'm a noob" statement. See spoiler for source. It could mean he is mafia doesn't know what to talk about; could also just mean he's newbie and doesn't know what to talk about. So NAI.

+ Show Spoiler +

So, ##Vote NocturneMage

@NocturneMage: if you're town, I want you to read Flexes' filter, who is also playing his first game. Only two posts, but he already discussed something relevant to the game. If you don't know: in the OP, if you click Flexes' name, you have access to all the posts he did in this thread.

Plus in his later posts there are lots of questions + "i'm a noob" statement. See spoiler for source. It could mean he is mafia doesn't know what to talk about; could also just mean he's newbie and doesn't know what to talk about. So NAI.

On July 25 2015 04:04 ruXxar wrote:


Aww, I did not want to ruin your RP, however tarot cards don't mean anything anyway if you just draw the cards at random.
If you actually picked the cards on your own and gave an explanation for what they meant I would be fine with it.

On July 25 2015 04:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is absolutely no reason to withhold basic information like reads here Tictock.
You want to be (1) read as town so you have the credibility to (2) convince people into lynching mafia if you are town.

What you are doing is counter-productive at best.

On July 25 2015 04:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:

so is NocturneMage scummy or not?

On July 25 2015 10:09 n00bKing wrote:

Well then, sorry to burst your bubble (hey, at least you'll know I'm not trying to pocket you!) but I think there is a reason why you were the only one in that game giving yourself any credit for "trapping" Sulfurus.

I don't think the fact that you nearly got yourself lynched should be a point of pride.
I think the behavior from Sulfurus was scummy independent of anything that you were doing.
I don't think Sulfurus himself would say that you were a significant part of why he was killed.

I didn't see anything productive about your Day 1 "strategy" in that game, which is why I was disappointed to see ruXxar doing something similar in this game. And Ticktock is no better, by the way.

But if there's any silver lining to it, I guess it would be that although I don't feel like ruXxar or Ticktock have contributed much to helping me solve the game, they have at least helped me determine their own alignments. ruXxar playing the same way you did likely makes him Town just like you were. And I don't know how a scum player would decide that his best course of action is to show up to the thread late and then start posting tarot cards. And if the answer is "cuz WIFOM" then I continue to think that the Newbie games are not the best place to be trying that kind of thing, and that TickTock would understand that. So I didn't really get Breshke scumreading ruXxar (though I see he's backing off of that now) and I didn't really get Damdred and rayn scumreading TickTock (though all 3 of them are on the vets list, so maybe Damdred and rayn are using some kind of l33t meta reads to catch TickTock).

I'll also mention that there was a silver lining to all of rayn's nonsense about his throwaway entry post. That, too, made me more confident in ruXxar's towniness, since Rux's reaction to all of it was basically "go fuck yourself with this crap, rayn" which is a mindset that is...umm...relatable, shall we say.

On July 25 2015 14:02 Sulfurus wrote:
I'll start with my read on Barakos since it was the easiest to figure out, just look at this post.



[indent]At first I was very excited to see this since it has the same 'shape' as his posts from NSMX where he had nothing but good logic. However the actual content of the post has none of the strong conclusions that I associate with Barakos. It looks like it was written so people couldn't say he hasn't given reads instead of trying to catch mafia.

      Also please don't listen to his excuse about how that post was a 'trap' for NSMX people. He knows he messed up and he's trying to cover up.

On July 25 2015 14:55 Tictock wrote:
Also I have at least 2 maybe 3 solid town reads in his PoE list so that makes me nervous as well...

On July 24 2015 22:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:

I still hate you. Spot spouting poetry shit and get to business you fool. Traps D1 like this are so bad it's ridiculous. It's completely dependent on the Mafia making a slip while people jump on your wagon. In either case, no one is taking you seriously at this point because of your poetry nonsense so you might as well just stop at this point. It's the last few hours we have. Get down to business.

On July 24 2015 18:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So Barakos claims he is scummy.
Barakos why would you make intentionally scummy posts as town?

On July 24 2015 22:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Barakos i would like you to elaborate onto your read on Barakos.
Why is the post you have been called out for scummy?

On July 26 2015 01:59 Damdred wrote:
Cleaning day has kept me busy so far but I'm here.

Tge lynch makes me happy today I think, nothing he has done has screamed town to me and him not being back defending himself+leaving information behind is telling I think for a d1 lynch.

I know someone asked me about my meta read on rayn, its kinda hard to explain and its about how he approaches the game and interacts with people. And he's not being an asshole a lovable asshole but still. Either way he's probably the towniest person in the game.

On July 24 2015 11:12 Damdred wrote:
I'm not sure how I am not taking stances, most early reads be they gut/tone are extremely vague and frustrating for people at times.

I think the general thought that I haven't taken a stance is incorrect. At least three stances have been taken.

1) Ruxxor is toen
2) Disinformation is town
3) barakas is a scum lean because of his post that says almost nothing definite.

4) vague feelings about breshke that I'll wait to expand on.

Besides that ruxxor is a tone read in his postings I can just believe. He usually gives his rsoultin/oprah impersonation when he's scum he hasn't caught on to that yet though.

On July 25 2015 06:20 Damdred wrote:
Barakas is ny #1 lynch.

TT, Breske are on the next level also here is sulfur

Rels is also someone I'm really curious scum leaning on.

Really it's really to many people and I need to refine my list a bit.

On July 26 2015 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You obviously aren't thinking much are you?
Also I have posted more content and anyone else in this game so you are just straight out lying.

On July 25 2015 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
no sorry, he is calling someone mafia for the things someone he is sorta defending did.

There is danger of in-fighting of loosing focus on the actual matters at hand.

Be wary of those showing little focus, causing disruption, or trying to start arguments.

On July 26 2015 04:19 Damdred wrote:
Its just a few hours till lynch though and instead of pushing your prefered lynch you say you don't like the lynch and you are instead putting attention on myself and rayn. It is counter productive at best with the time left if you are so against the lynch

On July 26 2015 04:28 Damdred wrote:


Come on, you don't do everything your scum read asks you to do. You can't prove to them that they are scum. If you are on the fence about someone and have concerns that's one thing but his scum read looks more like an actual case than trying to figure out if someone is scum

On July 26 2015 04:37 NocturneMage wrote:


Can you explain what makes moosy worse than barakos? Just finished reading through the two I think the latter is worse as it stands.

On July 24 2015 23:06 Barakos wrote:


I'll basically repeat, what Damdred and Rels already said, but since it will also answer Damdreds question:

There are basically 3 things, that are suspicious about that post:

1) Fluff in the beginning
2) Writing a lot of stuff that doesn't lead to substandial accusations or graspable reads. You can read some scum-leans into some points, but I never really point the finger at someone.
3) It's totally out of line with my townplay from NSM X. I didn't do fluff there and my first post was basically a case on disformation.

Rels pointed out all 3 and even found a 4th, where I contradict myself by saying I don't like you making your first post, which could be read as "this is my post for the day, cya" (which it obviously didn't mean, since you are here) and me saying I'll be lurking for a few hours. (A contradiction I honestly don't see, but I can see, how someone could find it ironic).

Damdred pointed out 1, so there you go, Damdred... stronger townread for rels.

Hope this answers both of your questions.

On July 25 2015 18:31 Tictock wrote:
Ok, so I'm reading Moosy's filter and this post just jumps out to me .



This post is rather Ironic due to the way Moosy himself played D1 as town in the last NSM, interesting as well since Moosy's ploy worked in that game.

I also find it very interesting that MD is focusing so heavily on RuXx both in this post and in most of his filter. At the time of this post I had begun posting my tarot stuff which was clearly more nonsensical than ruxx's poetry, yet MD ignores my nonsense and focuses entirely on ruxx.

In fact most of MD's filter is just arguments with ruxx over silly points, and none of it ever really goes anywhere.

This leads me to believe that MD is not really interested in people focusing on the game (as he would have mentioned my Tarot stuff) and is actually just trying to create some filter by fighting and calling a few minor points out.

There was also the overly long and drawn out stuff between MD and Breshke where MD kept dodging some questions. To me it looked like MD was trying to stir up something but when he got called out had to scramble to justify it.

I actually think MD is a pretty good lynch here today. So gunna leave my vote on him and take another look at things nearer EoD.

##Vote: MoosyDoosy

On July 26 2015 05:07 Damdred wrote:
Ok so lets say for a minute that the post is towny by logic (which I'm not saying) the next logical step is to have reads at some point in the day with substantiated reasoning behind it.

One problem I had with this post was that the reads still aren't substantiated beyond a copy paste of the allegations against him. With a slight twist on why those people are town who point out the problems.

The second is he automatically accepts both of us as town for thinking he looks scummy which doesn't make a ton of sense to me. If someone starts a wagon/joims a wagon one of my first thoughts is is scum looking for an easy mislynch which he doesn't do.
if bara flips scum rels is town no matter what to me obviously

On July 26 2015 09:26 Tictock wrote:
As for potential scum bussing their partner. Bre, sulf, and Rels look to be the most likely bussers.

Oh, I should add n00b to that list, Sul's little mini case on him isn't half bad.

On July 26 2015 14:20 ruXxar wrote:


You take a wifom premise of "we don't know how Barakis exited the game" ( and who says he even exited the game?) and you turn it into "it's highly likely he got bussed early by his team mates."

I think this is a straw man argument at best tbh.

On July 26 2015 16:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you are a cop i suggest you check Tictock or n00bKing.
If you are a vigilante 100% shoot Flexes. He is mafia.

On July 26 2015 18:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You can also ask TicTock why he does nothing to push his scumread who is pushing Barakos. Like the latter part of the day he talks way more about me than he talks about Moosy, who is his preferred lynch. He has me as scumread so again (as he did with Rels/NocturneMage early on in the game), he is indirectly defending Barakos - as i said - by not attacking my argument on him (which apparently was even a good one as he said to Damdred on D1) but instead attacking me.

As i have pointed out this is really flimsy at best. Everyone knows that, (1) if there is a bad case you cut out the bullshit by telling why the case is bad as you do not want to lynch people based on bad cases as the lynch will most likely hit town, and (2) THEN you push your own case you think is better.

In this case, however, Tictock says nothing about the case being bad. If the case is not bad, then it is actually likely the person the case is on, is mafia, and the person making the case is town. It is basic logic.

He does not do that. Instead he attacks my credibility by calling me mafia (for reasons that never make anyone mafia). Whatever you say this actually is indirectly defending Barakos, because you cannot possibly think i am mafia for doing what i did on D1 in case Barakos is mafia. Therefore he must think Barakos is town, and then he logically should... well see the couple of paragraphs above. Furthermore he STILL thinks there is a chance i am mafia, which is fucking awful at it's best. Truth to be told based on D1 i am the towniest person in the game, period. PERIOD. If i am alive in LYLO please feel free to call me mafia because THEN it can make sense. Now it doesn't. Noone who is town can actually think i am mafia based on D1.

I am the person who has made the most contributive posts in this game. My thought process has been pretty clear all game long. Damdred, who knows me best in this game, thinks i am town. Somehow TicTock twists this into me being mafia. First of all if he cannot read and cannot understand why i say the stuff i do then it's his fault, because my filter is in fact VERY FUCKING CLEAR of what i am pushing and why i say the stuff i do. It never makes me mafia, claiming so is bullshit. I have posted the most in this game, it never makes me mafia, claiming so is bullshit. He claims i can be scum for "used a couple of questions with fordrawn conclusions while pushing Bara". Well yeah, i did that, specifically when i asked him why his scummy post is scummy. HE SAID HIS POST IS SCUMMY HIMSELF!!!! How am i NOT supposed to ask a question with "fordrawn conclusions"?!?!?!?! wow, such train of thought. And this; "2 scum reads (Noc & Bara) were largely parroting other peoples reads". I have NEVER parroted other people in this game regarding Barakos/NM. The conclusion is full-retared. Feel free to point out where my case on Barakos is parroting other people. Feel free to point out where me scumreading NM early on for "producing reads that always have an out" is parroting other people."

If you cannot do that, exactly 100% of your case on D1 is bullshit and you should be lynched for a bullshit case which you cannot think makes anyone mafia.

On July 26 2015 18:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I never said you are scum for your Tarot shit Tictock.

On July 26 2015 18:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
TicTock you still need to explain where i have parroted other's reads.
Shouldn't be hard for you as you called me mafia for it.

On July 26 2015 19:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also no, you attacked Rels based on his read on NocturneMage instead of commenting on the read itself.
The same thing you did with me and Barakos. Apparently you even thought, at that point, that NM is mafia, so it makes very little sense to me, and that was the original reason i think you are mafia. Not your Tarot thing. I said it was counter-productive at best.

On July 26 2015 19:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So are you scum by your own definition because you pushed Moosy only after ruxxar did so?

On July 26 2015 19:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh you didn't?

Then why did you say all the people you mentioned here is more or less scummy later on?

On July 26 2015 19:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like this is literally what you said.

On July 27 2015 10:38 ruXxar wrote:


Because n00bking is giving me all sorts of bad vibes and I'm trying to figure out why.
Something about n00bking is rubbing me in the wrong spot, like an ominous premonition that something is off.
I don't want to slander him without bringing evidence to the table so I'll put together my specific thoughts tomorrow.
Like I don't even want to say that it's directly scummy, it's just a really weird feeling I get from his play.

Also cop should out if he has a red check.

On July 27 2015 10:49 ruXxar wrote:


Tictock can you give an ordered list of your town reads from most towns and least towny.

Also who you think was the attempted NK / medic save.

This is very important to me.

On July 27 2015 02:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Breshke is town lean. Although he doesn’t post his thought process which is frustrating at times, he does have a solid line of reasoning when he explains it, although it would be better if he posted it more often. My pressure on him only resulted in your standard townie squabble as well which was based off of a misunderstanding about his thought process.

On July 27 2015 04:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Breshke is a lot more quiet and afk than I would like although his interactions resemble those of a townie. Still a null read.

On July 27 2015 04:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I have never played a perfect game of Mafia before. And I’ve already given my thoughts. Mafia is definitely amongst Tictock/Breshke/NocturneMage/Flexes/Sulfurus unless I got fooled hard somewhere. I’m just waiting until night is over before re-reading filters from these people.

On July 27 2015 11:01 ruXxar wrote:


Can you do it anyway to the best of your ability?
I would really really appreciate it.

Ordered town list and who you think the NK attempt was on please.

On July 27 2015 11:37 ruXxar wrote:


Not surprised at all.
Figured you were either medic saved or the veteran.
To me you were the NK target 100%, which means you are on point..

Someone might say "but oh, mafia have a role blocker, why didn't they just role block rayn then shoot him?"
I don't think mafia thinks like that.
The chance that you hit the veteran the first night is so low that I think mafia takes that chance and just tries to block the cop instead.

I'm gonna look through your filter again to see who might be wanting to kill you.

On July 27 2015 11:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:

I'm Mafia

On July 27 2015 11:49 ruXxar wrote:


Really now? How should I know better?

On July 27 2015 11:57 ruXxar wrote:


Allow me to explain why mafia doesn't RB their NK:

1) mafia are in a shitty position.
2) the list of good cop checks is fairly small.
3) if mafia allow the cop free checks 2-3 nights in a row they're in a terrible spot.
4) mafia priority #1 is to avoid cop checks. They get 2 shots at this by splitting the NK and the RB.
5) if their NK or RB target is the cop then great! If their NK target is the veteran then too bad. But they have to take that risk to win at this point.

On July 27 2015 12:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ohhh... maybe we have a doctor and i live for another night.

This game uses a variable open setup. When the game begins, one of the following setups will be chosen:

A) 1 Town Cop, 1 Town Doctor, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
B) 1 Town Cop, 1 Town Veteran, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
C) 1 Town Vigilante, 1 Town Doctor, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
D) 1 Town Vigilante, 1 Town Veteran, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon

On July 27 2015 12:33 Sulfurus wrote:


      My reads are pretty much the same as I listed them here.

      Now that Barakos is dead Moosy is next up.

##Vote: MoosyDoosy

On July 27 2015 13:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vigilante was roleblocked or is Scott.
It's not a throwawqy claim BECAUSE MAFIA KNOWS THE SETUP. NOW TOWN ALSO KNOWS THE SETUP.

Tempted to lynch tictack because he is an idiot.

On July 27 2015 13:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote TickTack

He is either mafia or terrible.
His list is terrible.

On July 27 2015 13:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:
As an off question, why are you trusting Sulfurus so much Tictock? When I flip town what are you going to do? I doubt that you'll actually just roll over and die as described in Sulf's list.

On July 27 2015 13:22 n00bKing wrote:

Jesus, Ticktock. If rayn is our vet there can't BE a Doc. You JUST posted the setup roles, in the post before this one. lol

Upgrading Ticktock from Town to DumbTown (which is even bettter).

On July 27 2015 11:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am a veteran.

On July 27 2015 17:37 Rels wrote:

So your likely mafia team is Sulfu + Flexes or NM I think ?

On July 27 2015 17:42 Rels wrote:

You would be missing a textbook lesson on "how to make a ton a posts nobody reads and pretend to contribute" by the king himself.

On July 27 2015 21:13 Rels wrote:

Yesterday I was in his shoes. I wrote a big post saying how he was mafia for a tons of reasons, and when I reread it before posting I realize most of it was nonsense. I'm pretty happy I did not post it. I mean, read his last posts. He got progressively angry and started using majs. Mafia are usually calmer than that.

I too don't understand this sentence, but I decided to ignore him for the day and let him and I get more calm. We'll continue this tomorrow. IMO you should do the same.

Maybe I won't be like that if we didn't have other solid leads. But I feel Sulfurus and Flexes are very suspicious, and TT and MD are worth talking about.

On July 27 2015 23:43 NocturneMage wrote:


Looking at the Tictock/Moosy relationship and Tictock's filter from this standpoint.

Is the Moosy scumread a meta read? The way Moosy is going about it is he's saying "I'm mafia" etc, and just seemingly (outside the townreads) making himself look dumb at points, which I assume is trolling, I read part of the last newbie and Moosy also seemed self destructive purposely in that game.

Tictock, if Moosy is dodging questions like you are saying, how do you know it's not the same self-destructive stuff he did last game? How are you sure he's not doing it out of spite (which to me would be in line with the overall way he's acting)?

On July 27 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Let's not forget I was the first one to mention Sulfurus ever once the game started. But then again, that was just me hard busing because i'm Mafia. So never mind. Carry on.

On July 24 2015 10:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
/facepalm. I just realized that Sulfurus was in this game and that his first and only post was /in. I'm tempted to lynch him because it's my third game with him as well and he's rolled Mafia Godfather the last two times.

On July 26 2015 22:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
##Vote Sulfurus
He's probably Mafia Godfather tbh.

On July 28 2015 09:04 scott31337 wrote:
Who are the last two scum then, Tictock?

On July 28 2015 12:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Now this is interesting. As I've explained, my reads on Breshke have been evolving due to his absence from a town lean to a null read. This might come in handy later on.

As for scott, I'm honestly not surprised by his play because he hasn't really posted in any of the games that I've been in with him. So he's a null for me.

It's interesting to see how people are reading Sulfurus but I'm a bit confused on this point.

Why is it such a bad idea to lynch people that were on the Barakos wagon? If we look at the people who didn't, there's Tictock, ruXxar, me, and Flexes.

I'm town, ruXxar's town, I think Tictock's town. This basically leaves us just scott. But as someone pointed out, rayn's claim as Veteran leaves us with a Vigi. Which means we either have a dumb Vigi who didn't shoot N1 or scott as Vigi which makes me reluctant to lynch him because of this fact.

I just don't think that not lynching people on the Barakos wagon is a good idea.

It's interesting to see how people are reading Sulfurus but I'm a bit confused on this point.

On July 26 2015 19:49 Breshke wrote:


I want to lynch flexes more than moosey now.

Also i don't see why people assume that barakos scum mates would have known he was going to stop playing. If he was around to tell them he wouldnt be posting it is very likely he would have just posted in the thread instead.

I also like noobking even more now for his post on we should be looking for the most scummy people not the people most likely to bus because the later is stupid.

On July 24 2015 09:19 Breshke wrote:
Barakos when you say you dislike rayn for the alibi post do you mean you just dislike it in general or you think it is scummy?

On July 28 2015 17:01 Rels wrote:
I have two problems with the posts Tictock made after I left yesterday.

1
Tictock made two posts back to back. In the first he confirmed his scum read on moosy:
+ Show Spoiler +

In the second he explained how Sulfurus is a good lynch today, even though Sulfurus is voting for Moosy! See spoiler.
+ Show Spoiler +

In particular this paragraph:

makes exactly 0 sense to me.

2
Tictock makes a post saying we should focus on people not on Barakos' wagon

But in the SAME POST the person he attacks the most is Breshke, who voted on Barakos.

Then he goes on to vote for him.


So I think TT has a good shot at being mafia.
##Unvote
##Vote Tictock

On July 27 2015 08:09 scott31337 wrote:


Tictock seems really weird from what I've read of his filter - I just don't see Breshke being mafia with such an early vote and not moving it - was Barakos that scummy?

It's a lot to read all the pages again. Can anyone point to any big points I may have missed?

On July 28 2015 03:16 scott31337 wrote:


Pretty decent case, I could sheep this..

##Vote Sulfurus

I'm still not caring for TT or n00bking either, n00b is really defensive and doesn't look like his town game. Pretty sure two of the mafia are in these three.

I'm doing some research on Chronic kidney disease, lipids and apolipoproteins so
I'll be on and off today.

On July 28 2015 05:46 scott31337 wrote:


So reading thru the thread trying to catch up - Rayn has excellent points here. This fits better than Sulf being mafia - Rels case is decent, but Rayn's right - Damd, Ruxx, and himself are the only ones thinking he's town - and there is little counter so far to Sulf's lynch. A Tictock lynch makes more sense.

##Unvote
##Vote: Tictock

On July 27 2015 10:46 scott31337 wrote:


Who do you think are the last two mafia?

On July 28 2015 09:04 scott31337 wrote:
Who are the last two scum then, Tictock?

On July 28 2015 17:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:

"I am sure scott is mafia, breshke is scummy too."
Lets not vote for the guy i am SURE is mafia.

On July 28 2015 17:27 Rels wrote:
Another thing about your Breshke + scott team:


Breshke wants to lynch BOTH your old scum read (Moosy) and your new scum read (Flexes/scott).

Do you really think Breshke + scott is possible ?

On July 28 2015 17:40 Rels wrote:
@Tiktock

You said this D1 (see bolded):


Breshke asked you (see bolded):


In your response to his general post you didn't answer this question ?

Two things weird about that:

1. You were wishy washy about Sulfurus: "This "auto" list seems somewhat towny", but "it's timing is weird", and " if sulf had posted nothing else we policy lynch him... for sure." Looks like you wanted an excuse to vote Sulfurus without pushing him much.

2. What do you mean "his timing is weird" ?

Posting this auto-lynch concept and selling it could very well be a last ditch effort of doing "something".

On July 28 2015 18:08 Rels wrote:
Town usually defend very hard when pushed like that, and sometimes even attacks back. (see = noobking vs myself)
The fact that TT started defending against my accusation then left the thread before continuing is making me even more suspicious of him.
Actually it's the other way around: him defending hard would be a small sign of him being town. And he doesn't do that.

On July 28 2015 18:46 Rels wrote:

Really ? 'cause you quoted the post in question in your case. It was one of your main point about Breshke sheeping.

On July 29 2015 01:12 ruXxar wrote:


Has breshke been mafia before? With 15 games I would think so. He should know these things right?

On July 29 2015 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Please lynch TT he is scum.
Breshke is not mafia.
Neither is sulfurus.
Neither is moose.

On July 29 2015 03:48 ruXxar wrote:


You soft defend bara because you don't want him to get lynched, but don't want to be strongly associated by hard defending.
You push rayn to discredit him and make his push on barakos look illegitemate.
You start re-evaluating your scumreads because you realize the rayn push isn't getting traction and are looking for other opportunistic trains, like moosy.

Yea about that...

You soft defend bara because you don't want him to get lynched, but don't want to be strongly associated by hard defending.

You push rayn to discredit him and make his push on barakos look illegitemate.

You start re-evaluating your scumreads because you realize the rayn push isn't getting traction and are looking for other opportunistic trains, like moosy.

On July 27 2015 23:44 Rels wrote:
I read TikTock's filter and I will need a rock solid case to vote on him. Thinking Sulfurus + scott is way more likely.

On July 29 2015 04:02 n00bKing wrote:
day at work is getting busier. Can anyone put together a current vote count so I can see whether or not I need to post the Town Case on Ticktock?

On July 29 2015 04:15 Breshke wrote:
Can't sleep

Yeah would prefer if the confirmed were on this wagon aswell

On July 29 2015 04:46 disformation wrote:


Not too sure about the ton of info, but the landslide voting is worrying me a tad.

On July 29 2015 04:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Day 2 Votecount


scott31337 (7): Tictock, disformation, MoosyDoosy, NocturneMage, Damdred, Breshke, n00bKing
tictock (3): scott31337, Rels, raynpelikoneet, ruXxar
moosydoosy (2): Tictock, Sulfurus, ruXxar, Breshke, ruXxar
sulfurus (0): n00bKing, disformation, Rels, MoosyDoosy, MoosyDoosy, NocturneMage, scott31337
ticktack (0): raynpelikoneet
n00bking (0): ruXxar
breshke (0): Tictock

Not Voting (0):
Scott31337 is set to be lynched!