Case on Scott (Flexes)
0) Slot Suspicion (Flex)
It's a bit weird when dealing with replacements because it's a whole new person to try and read, and yet who played the slot before replacing out was still representing the alignment of the slot.
Flex was at best a null read and at worst highly suspect of being mafia
So before even reading into scott, his slot has a decent chance of being mafia.
1) Sheeping cases before getting caught up
If Scott replaced in near EoD or halfway through... maybe this is ok since it's pretty un-realistic to be able to read and catch-up in such a short time. But in this case Scott claims to be reading and catching up but ends up jumping on the first couple of decent cases he finds.
My biggest issue here is that this reeks of someone who just wants to look good by doing stuff rather than someone who is interested in solving the game.
2) Terrible analysis of Votes
Talking about this post.
Honestly this is just a terrible post all around the more I've looked at it. There is a ton packed into it and a lot of things look out of place.
The overall idea SEEMS to be that Scott is looking at how people voted D1 to show that most people are town on the Bara wagon. But there is a lot of fluff in there as well and he fails to consider a ton of stuff.
Breaking this monster out, but keeping it spoiler-ed so this post isn't huge.
+ Show Spoiler +So re-reading the thread and going over the Barakos lynch - Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 13:51 Tictock wrote:I was a bit worried about n00b earlier in the game here which is why I gave him a card. He just didn't seem very interested, and opening with a vote against Ruxx didn't boad well. However his posting has gotten much better and has been seeming more like his usual self. This post especially sold me: On July 25 2015 10:09 n00bKing wrote:On July 25 2015 09:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 25 2015 04:43 n00bKing wrote:On July 24 2015 23:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 23:05 ruXxar wrote:
n00bking in his natural incarnation is a shiny dodacahedron.
Warmth, amicable talk and jesterly gestures is not his pure town suit.
What exactly has changed is yet unbeknownst to me. Bro, what the fuck is the point of all this spam when all you're going to say is "i don't know" from your reads of the reactions to your spam? You got the reactions you wanted. Multiple conversations have started from those reactions. It's time for you to get down to business, drop the act, start posting reads, and start to help town. Don't you realize? No one is taking your poetry spam seriously anymore and it's already lost its desired effect. So hurry up and do something productive. This post from me will probably not be productive. But I don't think I can keep myself from making it. First off, ruXxar comparing me to a "shiny dodacahedron" almost makes everything else he said in his annoying posting style WORTH it. Almost. Second, I have to wonder if your post to him is just copied and pasted from things I said to you in Newbie XII, when you were being equally useful. My efforts to make you wake up and start participating in the game took quite a while to have any effect. Eh. The difference between what we did is that it was clearly obvious that ruXxar was trying to force a reaction which made the Mafia just more cautious. On the other hand I went all-out with my trap so that Sulfurus was snagged hard. You can see this on the vote count. I was almost lynched and it went down to a one vote difference between me and Sulfurus. On the other hand, ruXxar was too lazy with his trap and no one took him seriously anyway. Well then, sorry to burst your bubble (hey, at least you'll know I'm not trying to pocket you!) but I think there is a reason why you were the only one in that game giving yourself any credit for "trapping" Sulfurus. I don't think the fact that you nearly got yourself lynched should be a point of pride. I think the behavior from Sulfurus was scummy independent of anything that you were doing. I don't think Sulfurus himself would say that you were a significant part of why he was killed. I didn't see anything productive about your Day 1 "strategy" in that game, which is why I was disappointed to see ruXxar doing something similar in this game. And Ticktock is no better, by the way. But if there's any silver lining to it, I guess it would be that although I don't feel like ruXxar or Ticktock have contributed much to helping me solve the game, they have at least helped me determine their own alignments. ruXxar playing the same way you did likely makes him Town just like you were. And I don't know how a scum player would decide that his best course of action is to show up to the thread late and then start posting tarot cards. And if the answer is "cuz WIFOM" then I continue to think that the Newbie games are not the best place to be trying that kind of thing, and that TickTock would understand that. So I didn't really get Breshke scumreading ruXxar (though I see he's backing off of that now) and I didn't really get Damdred and rayn scumreading TickTock (though all 3 of them are on the vets list, so maybe Damdred and rayn are using some kind of l33t meta reads to catch TickTock). I'll also mention that there was a silver lining to all of rayn's nonsense about his throwaway entry post. That, too, made me more confident in ruXxar's towniness, since Rux's reaction to all of it was basically "go fuck yourself with this crap, rayn" which is a mindset that is...umm...relatable, shall we say. So n00b stands a solid green for me now, pretty much never lynching the guy. Tictock drops this townread on n00b and spends quite a bit of time on it, although has not mentioned much of any body else yet. Very weird thing to lead off this post with, as it has nothing to do with Bara. It also goes nowhere, no conclusions, so I don't get why scott included it. Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 14:02 Sulfurus wrote:I'll start with my read on Barakos since it was the easiest to figure out, just look at this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote:
I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game.
The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards.
Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach.
Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it.
I need to engage in my own way.
Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun.
In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless.
Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough.  Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! At first I was very excited to see this since it has the same 'shape' as his posts from NSMX where he had nothing but good logic. However the actual content of the post has none of the strong conclusions that I associate with Barakos. It looks like it was written so people couldn't say he hasn't given reads instead of trying to catch mafia. Also please don't listen to his excuse about how that post was a 'trap' for NSMX people. He knows he messed up and he's trying to cover up. So Sulf places the fourth vote on Barakos just before this post. This would be a pretty sick bus when this seems like a pretty good post (one of his best so far) - I just don't see the bus yet. Only person to call that post by Sulf good. I'd love to hear Scott's reasoning here and why it makes him think it's LESS likely that Sulf was busing because of this post. Also weird that he starts off talking about the 4th vote on Bara in this post. Rayn's the UNCC'ed Vet and I'm town.
I'm pretty confident that dis is town as well.
Moosy looks townie to me as well.
Damdred gets a townlean for now, we will color him as well - his instincts and questioning seem townie. Bleh, unexplained reads. Cute how he puts himself with rayn. We have Rels voting for Bara - and then N00bking goes after Sulfurus on Barakos - Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 17:26 n00bKing wrote:On July 25 2015 16:41 Sulfurus wrote:On July 25 2015 14:24 Tictock wrote:On July 25 2015 14:02 Sulfurus wrote:I'll start with my read on Barakos since it was the easiest to figure out, just look at this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote:
I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game.
The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards.
Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach.
Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it.
I need to engage in my own way.
Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun.
In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless.
Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough. Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! [indent ]At first I was very excited to see this since it has the same 'shape' as his posts from NSMX where he had nothing but good logic. However the actual content of the post has none of the strong conclusions that I associate with Barakos. It looks like it was written so people couldn't say he hasn't given reads instead of trying to catch mafia. Also please don't listen to his excuse about how that post was a 'trap' for NSMX people. He knows he messed up and he's trying to cover up. Besides the bolded line, you are saying nothing new here. Was commenting about the "shape" of his posts in comparison to another game really something you wanted to share with us? Or are you trying to add more padding to your filter? Ya there are certain people who have a unique visual style to their posts such as trfel and n00bKing because of the why they format it. For Barakos in particular every single one of his posts in NSMX was very block-y and rectangular but in this game only the post I quoted looked like that while the rest had the standard shape everyone else uses. Like, everything you say here is pointless, false, or BOTH. Would it help if I quoted FIFTY posts from Barakos in Newbie X that are neither block-y nor rectangular? Because they are there. And it also isn't true that in this game, the only post from him that is block-y and rectangular is the one you quoted. Posts 12 and 13 in his filter from this game use the formatting you're talking about, even though they were both after the post that you quoted. He ends a sentence, starts a new line, but does not put in a line break to start a new paragraph. Just as was often (but not always) seen in his posts in Newbie X, and that's what gives some of his posts that distinctive layout. So again, even if what you were saying was true, I don't think it would matter. But it's not true. There are some good reasons to be suspicious of Barakos. This crap about the shape of his posts AIN'T those good reasons. So I understand why people are saying that it looks like you might be reaching for new reasons to sheep thread sentiment, instead of just sheeping the reasons that were already given. This seems like an attempt at a defense but not. N00b goes to bed and does not vote. TT votes moosy Ruxx votes Rayn on a "TMI scumslip" lol Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 22:06 ruXxar wrote:On July 25 2015 22:03 ruXxar wrote:On July 25 2015 21:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ruxxar I think you and moosy both need to stop tunneling each other for stupid as fuck reasons.
just ignore each other for a while and focus on something else. you are both town anyways. TMI scum slip? ##Unvote
##Vote rayn
Sorry buddy, it happens to everyone. Noob finally jumps on Barakos the next day at 13:04, when the lynch is about set (Bara has six votes) Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 05:04 n00bKing wrote:n00bKing wrote: I would expect Town Barakos to be able to give us better analysis on a preferred lynch target, and to do a better job of defending himself, based on prior examples of his Town play. If that doesn't happen, then he'll stay in the group of players (that also includes Sulfurus and Rels) that I would be perfectly happy to punt out of the game on Day 1. So yeah. All that stuff about him giving analysis on a better lynch target, and doing a better job of defending himself, obviously did not happen. One of the other things I was scumleaning him for (which I don't remember reading from anyone else, though I might have skimmed some of the longer cases on him, since I was already scumleaning him myself, and was waiting to see if he would come back and perform better to change my mind) was the appeal to emotion in that same post (the post that everyone hates). Appeal to emotion is a mafia tactic. He complains about the poor weather and feeling bad, and the headaches. So that he'll be a sympathetic figure in our subconscious, and not someone we want to kick out of the game right away before he can have any fun. I've seen scum players do this kind of thing in a few of the games I've been in (outside TL) and we also JUST saw JonnyLaw do it as scum in the Lost But Not Forgotten game. Any true-to-life excuse that they can use to get sympathy (without needing to lie about it) is a tough opportunity to pass up. My other arguments against Barakos feel like a re-hash, so I'll stop after just adding that one point. Since no one seems to want to help me pressure Rels... ##Unvote
##Vote: Barakos So the n00b vote or NM vote could be a bus - beyond that - I think everyone on that wagon is town. Finishes this post with a sorta play-by-play of how EoD votes played out. Doesn't really explain or talk about anything and gives unsubstantiated conclusions about who was likely bussing. I also find it VERY interesting that Breshke is not once mentioned in this post. I'd maybe be willing to think he just forgot, but he mentions Bre's vote twice in posts earlier. On July 27 2015 08:09 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I gotta go to bed.
shoot Fexexs.
check tictactoe.
i think they are the last mafia.
i think moosy is not mafia.
be aware of sulf and breshke, mayyyybe NM.
i don't think anyone else has a chance of flipping mafia. Tictock seems really weird from what I've read of his filter - I just don't see Breshke being mafia with such an early vote and not moving it - was Barakos that scummy?It's a lot to read all the pages again. Can anyone point to any big points I may have missed? On July 28 2015 03:34 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 00:06 Rels wrote:Questions for scott: + Show Spoiler +On July 27 2015 22:16 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 08:09 scott31337 wrote:On July 27 2015 05:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I gotta go to bed.
shoot Fexexs.
check tictactoe.
i think they are the last mafia.
i think moosy is not mafia.
be aware of sulf and breshke, mayyyybe NM.
i don't think anyone else has a chance of flipping mafia. Tictock seems really weird from what I've read of his filter - I just don't see Breshke being mafia with such an early vote and not moving it - was Barakos that scummy? It's a lot to read all the pages again. Can anyone point to any big points I may have missed? Two questions. Why is TT really weird ? rayn said "be aware of sulf and breshke" You answer "I just don't see Breshke being mafia with such an early vote and not moving it" But Sulfurus voted 8 minutes after Breshke and didn't move it. Why do you mention Breshke and not Sulfurus ? The tarot thing to being quite off on everything and not on the Bark wagon - he looks better than the other three though
I did not know Sulf voted for him eight minutes later and did the same, just that Breshke was the second vote. There's a lot of D1 I have not read yet since joining in. All of the above has me fairly convinced that there is a solid association here and is why I claimed that they are the scum team.
3) His "read" on me
I mentioned this earlier, but scott has a ton of experience playing with me as both town and scum. So you would expect him to be able to make some points about me one way or the other, yet here he just makes vague statements and based off a post from rayn nearing the end of D1 decides that I'm the best lynch today.
Here is how scott talks about me:
On July 27 2015 08:09 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I gotta go to bed.
shoot Fexexs.
check tictactoe.
i think they are the last mafia.
i think moosy is not mafia.
be aware of sulf and breshke, mayyyybe NM.
i don't think anyone else has a chance of flipping mafia. Tictock seems really weird from what I've read of his filter - I just don't see Breshke being mafia with such an early vote and not moving it - was Barakos that scummy? It's a lot to read all the pages again. Can anyone point to any big points I may have missed?
On July 28 2015 03:16 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 18:50 Rels wrote:Why Sulfurus has to be mafia: the easiest case in the world1. Did nothing for half of day 1Yes. In spoiler you will find the only post Sulfurus made D1. Not even good apparently. + Show Spoiler +On July 24 2015 15:23 Sulfurus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:34 n00bKing wrote:
I'll be interested to see what Sulfurus brings to the table in this game. I felt like it was pretty easy to distinguish his scum game from his Town game I could say the same about you. Sulfurus played three games prior to this one: newbie X, XI and XII. He was lynched in all three. In the first he was VT (see? I'm learning). In the other two he was GF. He had the same playstyle that is displayed is this game; very few posts, not much explanations, sudden attacks on people. I just can't believe he would keep this style if he was townie. 3. Voting on BarakosSulfurus voted on Barakos after half of D1, clearly sheeping the thread sentiment. While voting for a mafia is never scum indicative, the way he did it is not town indicative either because: - Barakos hadn't posted for 8 hours at the time. - He almost only talked about Barakos. In fact, he only made two meaningful post: one case on Barakos, and one case on noobking. We'll talk about the noobking's post later, no worries. 4. No explanation on his listSulfurus posted this: On July 25 2015 09:54 Sulfurus wrote:
And feel free to ask any questions you have about the list (somthing which ruXxar has already taken the initiative on). But he only explained a few of his reads, ignoring these posts: On July 25 2015 08:58 disformation wrote:
5) General lack of explanation for anything. On July 25 2015 10:32 disformation wrote:
I'd like to hear your reasons for your townread on Damdred and your reasons for your #1 scum read on barakos, who you are currently voting for. And the reasons for your #2 scum read of MoosyDoosy would also be nice. On July 25 2015 21:18 disformation wrote:
Didn't like how Sulfurus only gave 1/3 reads I asked him about. He even quoted this last post but never answered: On July 26 2015 03:22 Sulfurus wrote:On July 25 2015 21:18 disformation wrote:okay phone post time. lemme throw out some thoughts. Didn't like how Sulfurus only gave 1/3 reads I asked him about. Liked TT being suspicious of Sulfurus. Though I am not sure what I my conclusion on Sulfurus is. Def. want him to come back and post more. such Rayn. very town. much wow. Town lean on Damdred. Will reread him and post proper reasons when I am at home. Need to look st Rels filter. While I didn't mind NocturneMages questions in the beginning I think it is time for him to come back here and at least try to put out some reads. also: a lot of ppl haven't voted yet, right? should get to that.  Did you notice our reads are similar, or does that not change anything? Plus, in his Barakos post he said: On July 25 2015 14:02 Sulfurus wrote:
I'll start with my read on Barakos since it was the easiest to figure out, just look at this post. So he "started" and never continue. 5. He voted moosy with no explanationMoosy was number 2 on his list, and he never explained his read of him. Just voted him off. 6. His case on noobking is badnoobking's defense was good so I have nothing to add here. + Show Spoiler +On July 26 2015 11:28 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 10:35 Sulfurus wrote:n00bKing was the second to last player to vote on Barakos, he even admits in the same post that he would rather have lynched Rels today. Which I probably wouldn't say, if I were Scum, and knew that Barakos was about to flip Red. Like, you're defeating your own argument, without me needing to do anything. Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 10:35 Sulfurus wrote:And some particular posts that I think are quite damning Rels is not even trying to scumread me in that post. He's just defending himself. (As he should. I'm not saying it was scum indicative for him to be defending himself, or for him to ONLY be defending himself. I'm just saying he wasn't trying to indicate that anything I said made me Scum at that time.) Uhhh, you are misrepresenting my position. Read what the quote actually says. I did not ever try to say that rayn gave a scum read to Rels. I said that rayn refused to defend Rels. If you doubt that I'm right, ask rayn yourself, I expect he remembers. Keep grasping at those straws. I said he was unmemorable right before saying I was going to look at his filter from that game. After looking at the filter, he has at least 50 posts in that game that are not in the format you were talking about. The fact that I found him to be unmemorable before looking at his filter means nothing. I don't even know what you're trying to say. How is that post from ruXxar a "gem" and how is it supposed to make me look bad? Mafia. ##Vote Sulfurus Pretty decent case, I could sheep this.. ##Vote SulfurusI'm still not caring for TT or n00bking either, n00b is really defensive and doesn't look like his town game. Pretty sure two of the mafia are in these three. I'm doing some research on Chronic kidney disease, lipids and apolipoproteins so I'll be on and off today.
On July 28 2015 05:46 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 18:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You can also ask TicTock why he does nothing to push his scumread who is pushing Barakos. Like the latter part of the day he talks way more about me than he talks about Moosy, who is his preferred lynch. He has me as scumread so again (as he did with Rels/NocturneMage early on in the game), he is indirectly defending Barakos - as i said - by not attacking my argument on him (which apparently was even a good one as he said to Damdred on D1) but instead attacking me.
As i have pointed out this is really flimsy at best. Everyone knows that, (1) if there is a bad case you cut out the bullshit by telling why the case is bad as you do not want to lynch people based on bad cases as the lynch will most likely hit town, and (2) THEN you push your own case you think is better.
In this case, however, Tictock says nothing about the case being bad. If the case is not bad, then it is actually likely the person the case is on, is mafia, and the person making the case is town. It is basic logic.
He does not do that. Instead he attacks my credibility by calling me mafia (for reasons that never make anyone mafia). Whatever you say this actually is indirectly defending Barakos, because you cannot possibly think i am mafia for doing what i did on D1 in case Barakos is mafia. Therefore he must think Barakos is town, and then he logically should... well see the couple of paragraphs above. Furthermore he STILL thinks there is a chance i am mafia, which is fucking awful at it's best. Truth to be told based on D1 i am the towniest person in the game, period. PERIOD. If i am alive in LYLO please feel free to call me mafia because THEN it can make sense. Now it doesn't. Noone who is town can actually think i am mafia based on D1.
I am the person who has made the most contributive posts in this game. My thought process has been pretty clear all game long. Damdred, who knows me best in this game, thinks i am town. Somehow TicTock twists this into me being mafia. First of all if he cannot read and cannot understand why i say the stuff i do then it's his fault, because my filter is in fact VERY FUCKING CLEAR of what i am pushing and why i say the stuff i do. It never makes me mafia, claiming so is bullshit. I have posted the most in this game, it never makes me mafia, claiming so is bullshit. He claims i can be scum for "used a couple of questions with fordrawn conclusions while pushing Bara". Well yeah, i did that, specifically when i asked him why his scummy post is scummy. HE SAID HIS POST IS SCUMMY HIMSELF!!!! How am i NOT supposed to ask a question with "fordrawn conclusions"?!?!?!?! wow, such train of thought. And this; "2 scum reads (Noc & Bara) were largely parroting other peoples reads". I have NEVER parroted other people in this game regarding Barakos/NM. The conclusion is full-retared. Feel free to point out where my case on Barakos is parroting other people. Feel free to point out where me scumreading NM early on for "producing reads that always have an out" is parroting other people."
If you cannot do that, exactly 100% of your case on D1 is bullshit and you should be lynched for a bullshit case which you cannot think makes anyone mafia. So reading thru the thread trying to catch up - Rayn has excellent points here. This fits better than Sulf being mafia - Rels case is decent, but Rayn's right - Damd, Ruxx, and himself are the only ones thinking he's town - and there is little counter so far to Sulf's lynch. A Tictock lynch makes more sense. ##Unvote##Vote: Tictock
In that last post I bolded Scotts reason for dropping his vote on Sul and switching to me. This literally makes no sense, has a lie (Dam, Ruxx, and Rayn were not the only people thinking Sul is town. Also pretty sure rayn never said that?) and saying there is little counter to Sul's lynch is just stupid that early into the day especially when it's only a handful of people voting on him at that time.
This just looks like an opportunistic sheep with very shitty reasoning to defend the vote switch.
Honestly that line alone pretty much proves to me that Scott is mafia here.
4) Weak questions
Possibly not a good point, but the only two times Scott talks directly to anyone it's this question.
On July 27 2015 10:46 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 10:37 Sulfurus wrote:
I did NOT get roleblocked last night.
And if you did I recommend claiming cause it's kinda like a green check. Who do you think are the last two mafia?
On July 28 2015 09:04 scott31337 wrote:
Who are the last two scum then, Tictock?
It's like the most obvious question to ask, super easy for scum to do, and is very unlikely to produce interesting answers that help determine alignment.
Idk, since he's replaced in it's kinda WIFOM but it just seems off to me.
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