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On July 28 2015 12:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 09:03 Tictock wrote:
Quick post while on my meal break.
Sulf is actually looking less and less likely to be mafi here... His posting looks pretty similar to his town game in NSM X.
While I still think it is likely that at least one mafia bussed Bara, I do agree with Damdred and rayn here that it is a smart to focus on the people not on the Bara wagon.
I think ruxx is town, and I've already stated my opinions on Moosy.
As for scott... Idk seems odd how he is just sheeping cases before he is done catching up with the game. I also would expect him to take more time trying to get a read on me. Scott has played with me more than anyone here and like Damdred he was in Holy Guardians where I managed to get Scott lynched in LyLo. I'd expect Scott to be able to read me better, or at least put some effort into trying to...
Breshke is also lurking really hardcore this game, really making me think he is scum. I was masons with Bre and so I know he doesn't feel confident as scum (we talked about alot of stuff). Now this is interesting. As I've explained, my reads on Breshke have been evolving due to his absence from a town lean to a null read. This might come in handy later on. As for scott, I'm honestly not surprised by his play because he hasn't really posted in any of the games that I've been in with him. So he's a null for me. It's interesting to see how people are reading Sulfurus but I'm a bit confused on this point. Why is it such a bad idea to lynch people that were on the Barakos wagon? If we look at the people who didn't, there's Tictock, ruXxar, me, and Flexes. I'm town, ruXxar's town, I think Tictock's town. This basically leaves us just scott. But as someone pointed out, rayn's claim as Veteran leaves us with a Vigi. Which means we either have a dumb Vigi who didn't shoot N1 or scott as Vigi which makes me reluctant to lynch him because of this fact. I just don't think that not lynching people on the Barakos wagon is a good idea.
2 Things
First, we could have Vig or a Cop with a Vet claim.
Second, who do you think we should lynch today Moosy?
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Oh, I missed your vote on Sulf.
Care to expand on this a little then instead
It's interesting to see how people are reading Sulfurus but I'm a bit confused on this point.
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Crap, I just realized EoD is in 16 hours. Don't know why I thought we had another day...
Votes are fairly scattered which doesn't look so good.
Moosy and Sulf are not looking great, but both are active and posting... also both look to be playing their town meta.
Starting to think we should be lynching Scott or Breshke today. Want to look at some things first though.
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On July 28 2015 12:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 09:03 Tictock wrote:
Quick post while on my meal break.
Sulf is actually looking less and less likely to be mafi here... His posting looks pretty similar to his town game in NSM X.
While I still think it is likely that at least one mafia bussed Bara, I do agree with Damdred and rayn here that it is a smart to focus on the people not on the Bara wagon.
I think ruxx is town, and I've already stated my opinions on Moosy.
As for scott... Idk seems odd how he is just sheeping cases before he is done catching up with the game. I also would expect him to take more time trying to get a read on me. Scott has played with me more than anyone here and like Damdred he was in Holy Guardians where I managed to get Scott lynched in LyLo. I'd expect Scott to be able to read me better, or at least put some effort into trying to...
Breshke is also lurking really hardcore this game, really making me think he is scum. I was masons with Bre and so I know he doesn't feel confident as scum (we talked about alot of stuff). Now this is interesting. As I've explained, my reads on Breshke have been evolving due to his absence from a town lean to a null read. This might come in handy later on. As for scott, I'm honestly not surprised by his play because he hasn't really posted in any of the games that I've been in with him. So he's a null for me. It's interesting to see how people are reading Sulfurus but I'm a bit confused on this point. Why is it such a bad idea to lynch people that were on the Barakos wagon? If we look at the people who didn't, there's Tictock, ruXxar, me, and Flexes. I'm town, ruXxar's town, I think Tictock's town. This basically leaves us just scott. But as someone pointed out, rayn's claim as Veteran leaves us with a Vigi. Which means we either have a dumb Vigi who didn't shoot N1 or scott as Vigi which makes me reluctant to lynch him because of this fact. I just don't think that not lynching people on the Barakos wagon is a good idea.
Wrong. N00bking was not on the Barakos train and gets 0 credit for voting on him.
His vote on barakos has 0 value.
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To all the people voting on sulfurous: you better move your vote somewhere else if you are town because you're going to look like shit when sulfurus flips town.
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Ok, pretty sure the scum team is Breshke and Scott.
I'm pretty sure on Scott, but I'm positive on Breshke now.
##Unvote
##Vote: Breshke
Will post cases on both as I get em done, with their filters it shouldn't take very long.
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On July 28 2015 06:57 scott31337 wrote:So re-reading the thread and going over the Barakos lynch - Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 13:51 Tictock wrote:I was a bit worried about n00b earlier in the game here which is why I gave him a card. He just didn't seem very interested, and opening with a vote against Ruxx didn't boad well. However his posting has gotten much better and has been seeming more like his usual self. This post especially sold me: On July 25 2015 10:09 n00bKing wrote:On July 25 2015 09:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 25 2015 04:43 n00bKing wrote:On July 24 2015 23:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 23:05 ruXxar wrote:
n00bking in his natural incarnation is a shiny dodacahedron.
Warmth, amicable talk and jesterly gestures is not his pure town suit.
What exactly has changed is yet unbeknownst to me. Bro, what the fuck is the point of all this spam when all you're going to say is "i don't know" from your reads of the reactions to your spam? You got the reactions you wanted. Multiple conversations have started from those reactions. It's time for you to get down to business, drop the act, start posting reads, and start to help town. Don't you realize? No one is taking your poetry spam seriously anymore and it's already lost its desired effect. So hurry up and do something productive. This post from me will probably not be productive. But I don't think I can keep myself from making it. First off, ruXxar comparing me to a "shiny dodacahedron" almost makes everything else he said in his annoying posting style WORTH it. Almost. Second, I have to wonder if your post to him is just copied and pasted from things I said to you in Newbie XII, when you were being equally useful. My efforts to make you wake up and start participating in the game took quite a while to have any effect. Eh. The difference between what we did is that it was clearly obvious that ruXxar was trying to force a reaction which made the Mafia just more cautious. On the other hand I went all-out with my trap so that Sulfurus was snagged hard. You can see this on the vote count. I was almost lynched and it went down to a one vote difference between me and Sulfurus. On the other hand, ruXxar was too lazy with his trap and no one took him seriously anyway. Well then, sorry to burst your bubble (hey, at least you'll know I'm not trying to pocket you!) but I think there is a reason why you were the only one in that game giving yourself any credit for "trapping" Sulfurus. I don't think the fact that you nearly got yourself lynched should be a point of pride. I think the behavior from Sulfurus was scummy independent of anything that you were doing. I don't think Sulfurus himself would say that you were a significant part of why he was killed. I didn't see anything productive about your Day 1 "strategy" in that game, which is why I was disappointed to see ruXxar doing something similar in this game. And Ticktock is no better, by the way. But if there's any silver lining to it, I guess it would be that although I don't feel like ruXxar or Ticktock have contributed much to helping me solve the game, they have at least helped me determine their own alignments. ruXxar playing the same way you did likely makes him Town just like you were. And I don't know how a scum player would decide that his best course of action is to show up to the thread late and then start posting tarot cards. And if the answer is "cuz WIFOM" then I continue to think that the Newbie games are not the best place to be trying that kind of thing, and that TickTock would understand that. So I didn't really get Breshke scumreading ruXxar (though I see he's backing off of that now) and I didn't really get Damdred and rayn scumreading TickTock (though all 3 of them are on the vets list, so maybe Damdred and rayn are using some kind of l33t meta reads to catch TickTock). I'll also mention that there was a silver lining to all of rayn's nonsense about his throwaway entry post. That, too, made me more confident in ruXxar's towniness, since Rux's reaction to all of it was basically "go fuck yourself with this crap, rayn" which is a mindset that is...umm...relatable, shall we say. So n00b stands a solid green for me now, pretty much never lynching the guy. Tictock drops this townread on n00b and spends quite a bit of time on it, although has not mentioned much of any body else yet. Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 14:02 Sulfurus wrote:I'll start with my read on Barakos since it was the easiest to figure out, just look at this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote:
I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game.
The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards.
Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach.
Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it.
I need to engage in my own way.
Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun.
In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless.
Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough.  Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! At first I was very excited to see this since it has the same 'shape' as his posts from NSMX where he had nothing but good logic. However the actual content of the post has none of the strong conclusions that I associate with Barakos. It looks like it was written so people couldn't say he hasn't given reads instead of trying to catch mafia. Also please don't listen to his excuse about how that post was a 'trap' for NSMX people. He knows he messed up and he's trying to cover up. So Sulf places the fourth vote on Barakos just before this post. This would be a pretty sick bus when this seems like a pretty good post (one of his best so far) - I just don't see the bus yet. Rayn's the UNCC'ed Vet and I'm town. I'm pretty confident that dis is town as well. Moosy looks townie to me as well. Damdred gets a townlean for now, we will color him as well - his instincts and questioning seem townie. So I'm at - Final Day 1 Votecountbarakos (8): raynpelikoneet, disformation, Breshke, Sulfurus, Rels, damdred, n00bKing, NocturneMage moosydoosy (2): ruXxar, Rels, Tictock, ruXxar nocturnemage (0): Relsruxxar (0): n00bKingbarakas (0): damdredrels (0): n00bKingrayn (0): ruXxarNot voting (3): moosydoosy, barakos, Flexesbarakos is set to be lynched!We have Rels voting for Bara - and then N00bking goes after Sulfurus on Barakos - Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 17:26 n00bKing wrote:On July 25 2015 16:41 Sulfurus wrote:On July 25 2015 14:24 Tictock wrote:On July 25 2015 14:02 Sulfurus wrote:I'll start with my read on Barakos since it was the easiest to figure out, just look at this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote:
I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game.
The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards.
Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach.
Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it.
I need to engage in my own way.
Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun.
In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless.
Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough. Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! [indent ]At first I was very excited to see this since it has the same 'shape' as his posts from NSMX where he had nothing but good logic. However the actual content of the post has none of the strong conclusions that I associate with Barakos. It looks like it was written so people couldn't say he hasn't given reads instead of trying to catch mafia. Also please don't listen to his excuse about how that post was a 'trap' for NSMX people. He knows he messed up and he's trying to cover up. Besides the bolded line, you are saying nothing new here. Was commenting about the "shape" of his posts in comparison to another game really something you wanted to share with us? Or are you trying to add more padding to your filter? Ya there are certain people who have a unique visual style to their posts such as trfel and n00bKing because of the why they format it. For Barakos in particular every single one of his posts in NSMX was very block-y and rectangular but in this game only the post I quoted looked like that while the rest had the standard shape everyone else uses. Like, everything you say here is pointless, false, or BOTH. Would it help if I quoted FIFTY posts from Barakos in Newbie X that are neither block-y nor rectangular? Because they are there. And it also isn't true that in this game, the only post from him that is block-y and rectangular is the one you quoted. Posts 12 and 13 in his filter from this game use the formatting you're talking about, even though they were both after the post that you quoted. He ends a sentence, starts a new line, but does not put in a line break to start a new paragraph. Just as was often (but not always) seen in his posts in Newbie X, and that's what gives some of his posts that distinctive layout. So again, even if what you were saying was true, I don't think it would matter. But it's not true. There are some good reasons to be suspicious of Barakos. This crap about the shape of his posts AIN'T those good reasons. So I understand why people are saying that it looks like you might be reaching for new reasons to sheep thread sentiment, instead of just sheeping the reasons that were already given. This seems like an attempt at a defense but not. N00b goes to bed and does not vote. TT votes moosy Ruxx votes Rayn on a "TMI scumslip" lol Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 22:06 ruXxar wrote:On July 25 2015 22:03 ruXxar wrote:On July 25 2015 21:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ruxxar I think you and moosy both need to stop tunneling each other for stupid as fuck reasons.
just ignore each other for a while and focus on something else. you are both town anyways. TMI scum slip? ##Unvote
##Vote rayn
Sorry buddy, it happens to everyone. Noob finally jumps on Barakos the next day at 13:04, when the lynch is about set (Bara has six votes) Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 05:04 n00bKing wrote:n00bKing wrote: I would expect Town Barakos to be able to give us better analysis on a preferred lynch target, and to do a better job of defending himself, based on prior examples of his Town play. If that doesn't happen, then he'll stay in the group of players (that also includes Sulfurus and Rels) that I would be perfectly happy to punt out of the game on Day 1. So yeah. All that stuff about him giving analysis on a better lynch target, and doing a better job of defending himself, obviously did not happen. One of the other things I was scumleaning him for (which I don't remember reading from anyone else, though I might have skimmed some of the longer cases on him, since I was already scumleaning him myself, and was waiting to see if he would come back and perform better to change my mind) was the appeal to emotion in that same post (the post that everyone hates). Appeal to emotion is a mafia tactic. He complains about the poor weather and feeling bad, and the headaches. So that he'll be a sympathetic figure in our subconscious, and not someone we want to kick out of the game right away before he can have any fun. I've seen scum players do this kind of thing in a few of the games I've been in (outside TL) and we also JUST saw JonnyLaw do it as scum in the Lost But Not Forgotten game. Any true-to-life excuse that they can use to get sympathy (without needing to lie about it) is a tough opportunity to pass up. My other arguments against Barakos feel like a re-hash, so I'll stop after just adding that one point. Since no one seems to want to help me pressure Rels... ##Unvote
##Vote: Barakos So the n00b vote or NM vote could be a bus - beyond that - I think everyone on that wagon is town.
Why is moosy town exactly?
What's your opinion of rels: scum or town?
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On July 28 2015 10:17 n00bKing wrote:
Disappointed in you, ruXxar.
If anyone needs me to rip his post to shreds, let me know. But I can just ignore it if that works better for everyone.
That's fine, I don't need your approval.
But go ahead and tear it to shreds.
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Hi I havn't forgotten about this game.
Anyone saying I am mafia because of inactivity is making a logical assumption even though the assumption is wrong.
I will be here in a couple hours. Soz m8's
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OK rayn. As you're confirmed town, I'll listen to you today and I'll vote on someone not on Barakos' wagon.
On the other hand, you've been mostly AFK this phase; hope your activity gets better, 'cause you're probably shot tonight. And don't forget you promised this:
On July 27 2015 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I promise i will look more closely onto Sulfurus in case i am alive on D2.
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I have two problems with the posts Tictock made after I left yesterday.
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Tictock made two posts back to back. In the first he confirmed his scum read on moosy:
+ Show Spoiler +On July 28 2015 04:11 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 21:13 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 21:05 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 20:58 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 20:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 19:56 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 18:09 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 18:03 n00bKing wrote:On July 27 2015 17:59 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 17:57 n00bKing wrote:
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lol, NONSENSE. What didn't you understand about "If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town)."?
I don't understand. You are saying: - I'm probably not the cop - On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you I don't understand why you are saying that. Especially the second part. HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT?? I still don't get why you are saying this: - On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you This is going nowhere. Let's stop here. Let's not stop here, I want an answer to this. Why would rels not check n00nking if rels is cop. Explain like I'm 5. You already called me dumb so I need extra spoon feeding. Really want an answer on this from n00b. I can not comment objectively, but I think Tiktock spoke the truth. We should concentrate on other people that noobking or myself. We're both pretty angry, so nothing productive will happen if we're pushed. Any thought on Sulfurus ruxxar ? ?? Why do you not want an answer to this question? I don't think his "answer" made ANY sense at all. Yesterday I was in his shoes. I wrote a big post saying how he was mafia for a tons of reasons, and when I reread it before posting I realize most of it was nonsense. I'm pretty happy I did not post it. I mean, read his last posts. He got progressively angry and started using majs. Mafia are usually calmer than that. I too don't understand this sentence, but I decided to ignore him for the day and let him and I get more calm. We'll continue this tomorrow. IMO you should do the same. Maybe I won't be like that if we didn't have other solid leads. But I feel Sulfurus and Flexes are very suspicious, and TT and MD are worth talking about. I'm always worth talking about... Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 23:43 NocturneMage wrote:On July 25 2015 18:31 Tictock wrote:Ok, so I'm reading Moosy's filter and this post just jumps out to me . On July 24 2015 22:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 22:35 ruXxar wrote:
Moosy..
What is this soul-read you have on me?
WIth perfect information comes the ease of covering your lies in pretty words. I still hate you. Spot spouting poetry shit and get to business you fool. Traps D1 like this are so bad it's ridiculous. It's completely dependent on the Mafia making a slip while people jump on your wagon. In either case, no one is taking you seriously at this point because of your poetry nonsense so you might as well just stop at this point. It's the last few hours we have. Get down to business. This post is rather Ironic due to the way Moosy himself played D1 as town in the last NSM, interesting as well since Moosy's ploy worked in that game. I also find it very interesting that MD is focusing so heavily on RuXx both in this post and in most of his filter. At the time of this post I had begun posting my tarot stuff which was clearly more nonsensical than ruxx's poetry, yet MD ignores my nonsense and focuses entirely on ruxx. In fact most of MD's filter is just arguments with ruxx over silly points, and none of it ever really goes anywhere. This leads me to believe that MD is not really interested in people focusing on the game (as he would have mentioned my Tarot stuff) and is actually just trying to create some filter by fighting and calling a few minor points out. There was also the overly long and drawn out stuff between MD and Breshke where MD kept dodging some questions. To me it looked like MD was trying to stir up something but when he got called out had to scramble to justify it. I actually think MD is a pretty good lynch here today. So gunna leave my vote on him and take another look at things nearer EoD. ##Vote: MoosyDoosy Looking at the Tictock/Moosy relationship and Tictock's filter from this standpoint. Is the Moosy scumread a meta read? The way Moosy is going about it is he's saying "I'm mafia" etc, and just seemingly (outside the townreads) making himself look dumb at points, which I assume is trolling, I read part of the last newbie and Moosy also seemed self destructive purposely in that game. Tictock, if Moosy is dodging questions like you are saying, how do you know it's not the same self-destructive stuff he did last game? How are you sure he's not doing it out of spite (which to me would be in line with the overall way he's acting)? I don't and that's the problem. I know he is capable of playing this way as town, but whats to prevent MD from using the same tactic as mafia to dodge questions and stuff? Posts like this are a perfect example of why MD looks so scummy to me. Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 19:29 disformation wrote:Oh just noticed. n00bKing already is voting for Sulfurus with his explanation of: On July 27 2015 05:13 n00bKing wrote:
#12: Sulfurus - Activity level is basically a perfect match for prior Scum games. First post was strange, and his posts have never improved. In his last scum game, his first post was strange, and his posts never improved. The only post of his that doesn't match his Scum games looks like a lazy mimic from his Town game in Newbie X, when he decided he couldn't figure out how to play Townie without being Townie, so he just does some copy & paste work from a game where he was Town. Reads are bad. Volunteers to offer more information about his reads, if anyone asks for it. People ask for information about his more controversial reads, and he fails to offer more information about some of them, while posting additional info about his read that already matched thread sentiment. Every time the dude posts, I do my best to read with an open mind, and then it just ends up being another strike against him. Since he has a similar view of Sulfurus meta as Rels I am getting more confident in Sulfurus being scum. Let's not forget I was the first one to mention Sulfurus ever once the game started. But then again, that was just me hard busing because i'm Mafia. So never mind. Carry on. -The bolded is true, but but it doesn't mean jack all. Never even bothered to push Sulf at all D1, then randomly votes N1. So he only really gets credit for mentioning that Sulf was in the game and that he's rolled mafia before. Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
/facepalm. I just realized that Sulfurus was in this game and that his first and only post was /in. I'm tempted to lynch him because it's my third game with him as well and he's rolled Mafia Godfather the last two times. Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 22:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
##Vote Sulfurus
He's probably Mafia Godfather tbh. - Then we get back to more "I'm mafia" talk. True he did this as town before, but he's only using it this game to dodge questions. Last game he was much more clearly using this tactic to try and be lynchbait but here it's only coming up when questions are asked of him or people push on him. I see no reason to believe this is not scum!MD trying to abuse something he did as town last game. So I feel just fine keeping my vote on him. Also do note, he didn't bother to share those reads until Night phase, during Day phase he did basically nothing and never even bothered to vote. Like nothing I read from MD D1 suggested to me he was at all interested in solving the game.
In the second he explained how Sulfurus is a good lynch today, even though Sulfurus is voting for Moosy! See spoiler.
+ Show Spoiler +On July 28 2015 04:16 Tictock wrote:
In regards to Sulf.
I'm totally for him being a lynch target today. I've been saying pretty much all the same stuff as everyone making a case on him.
For now I dont mind leaving my vote on MD (for reasons I stated in last post) even though Sulf is voting for him as well. Based on his Auto list MD was clearly Sulf's next target so him placing a vote on him is just following through what he said in that post and NAI.
Having said that.
@Sul
Why don't you explain to us your reads in detail. Starting with why you think Moosy is the best lynch today.
Also, at what point do you rethink your list? A D1 PoE list is very unlikely to be accurate.
In particular this paragraph:
On July 28 2015 04:16 Tictock wrote:
For now I dont mind leaving my vote on MD (for reasons I stated in last post) even though Sulf is voting for him as well. Based on his Auto list MD was clearly Sulf's next target so him placing a vote on him is just following through what he said in that post and NAI.
makes exactly 0 sense to me.
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Tictock makes a post saying we should focus on people not on Barakos' wagon
On July 28 2015 09:03 Tictock wrote:
While I still think it is likely that at least one mafia bussed Bara, I do agree with Damdred and rayn here that it is a smart to focus on the people not on the Bara wagon.
But in the SAME POST the person he attacks the most is Breshke, who voted on Barakos.
On July 28 2015 09:03 Tictock wrote:
Breshke is also lurking really hardcore this game, really making me think he is scum. I was masons with Bre and so I know he doesn't feel confident as scum (we talked about alot of stuff).
Then he goes on to vote for him.
On July 28 2015 15:49 Tictock wrote:
Ok, pretty sure the scum team is Breshke and Scott.
I'm pretty sure on Scott, but I'm positive on Breshke now.
##Unvote
##Vote: Breshke
Will post cases on both as I get em done, with their filters it shouldn't take very long.
So I think TT has a good shot at being mafia.
##Unvote
##Vote Tictock
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Case on Breshke
1) Super lurker
Has almost the same filter as Sulf.
About 1/3 of his posts were also direct interactions/responses with certain people (most notably Moosy and I)
Completely absent D2 (thus far).
2) Not very active when active...
Basically, he's pretty much done nothing this game. Hardly any reads, hardly any thoughts posted, no pushes.
Gives up his own reads to sheep.
Vote on Barakos, when Moosy and Ruxx were his top scum before. Dropped his scum read on Ruxx with no explanation.
This post:
On July 26 2015 19:49 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 18:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I still think Flexes is mafia.
There is no reason a townie would say "i am writing a reads post right now" if they are not doing so.
I find that impossible.
Like this game is pretty straightforward. People who do scummy things are usually scum. If someone thinks they themselves did a scummy thing they are scum. rofl. Saying you are doing something you actually aren't is a scummy thing.
Flexes is lying, as proven by the thread. It doesn't matter if it "makes sense for him to do that as mafia". It matters that no townie ever says they are DOING something they actually aren't.
Simple things are simple. I want to lynch flexes more than moosey now. Also i don't see why people assume that barakos scum mates would have known he was going to stop playing. If he was around to tell them he wouldnt be posting it is very likely he would have just posted in the thread instead. I also like noobking even more now for his post on we should be looking for the most scummy people not the people most likely to bus because the later is stupid.
3) Meta
I feel like I know decently given how much we chatted in NSM X, but to be sure I went to look at some of his older games.
+ Show Spoiler [Breshke] +
Now I didn't read ALL those filters, but there is a clear difference in how active Bre is when he is Scum vs Town.
Scum!Bre doesn't post nearly as much as when he is town and tends to focus much more on certain players. As town he tends to post a lot more questions and conclusions about the majority of the players.
This game Bre interacts (talks directly to them or responds to a post by them) with the following players:
ruxx
Bara
Moosy
n00b
rayn (sorta, mostly sheeping)
Sul
Me
So that's about half the game he's been ignoring, and I'm not exactly counting rayn on that list because the only times he references something rayn says he's also sheeping rayn. Also seems a bit odd that Bre never mentions me until I try and strike up a conversation with him, though he did mention that he wanted to see where my tarot stuff went.
It's not super solid (only 2 scum games to look at), but it seems like scum!Bre tends to avoid interacting with players who he fears might be able to read him well. That would make sense why how he's mostly sheeping rayn and waited till I tried to talk to him to say anything about me. The other players he's ignored?
Rels and Dis (both played in NSM X), Damdred ( a veteran player like rayn), and then NM and Flex/Scott obly these 2 don't fit this pattern.
???) Minor/Limited interaction with Barakos
So this is a much weaker point, but it still looks like something to me. Breshke told me himself when we were masons that he has a hard time interacting with people in game when he has a QT to chat with them. So it stands to reason that if Bre and Bara are on a team, they'd want to interact a little.
So look at Bre's only post regarding Barakos. Well before he sheeps his vote onto him nearing the EoD.
On July 24 2015 09:19 Breshke wrote:
Barakos when you say you dislike rayn for the alibi post do you mean you just dislike it in general or you think it is scummy?
Bara answers almost right away and Bre explains this question later on to Rels. It might be nothing (Shameful secret - + Show Spoiler +I actually started this point as my strongest, but hadn't seen Bara's response, so I thought Bre dropped the point entirely which was so off compared to how he dealt with Moosy later
Bre explained why he asked that later to Rels saying he wanted to make sure Bara didn't think it was scummy. Now, to me this looks like a low-ball question. Something easy that makes the person your asking look better and with the added bonus that it's an interaction with Bara.
I say the question is a low-ball question because when you look at it, there's pretty much one answer. Also the fact that Bara responded almost instantly is interesting, but doesn't really prove anything.
Bonus Point
I pointed this out Earlier but if there was anyone bussing Bara, Bre was one of the most likely given his lack of read on Bara and the timing of his vote.
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ticktok point 2 is flawed. What is wrong with sheeping? Especially when im sheeping the person who i basically sheeped last phase and we lynched scum.
Your meta on me i think is probably incorrect aswell.
But yeah im still not here so ignore this post
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Why are you attacking Breshke when you admitted it is a good idea to focus on people not on Barakos' train ?
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On July 28 2015 17:01 Rels wrote:I have two problems with the posts Tictock made after I left yesterday. 1Tictock made two posts back to back. In the first he confirmed his scum read on moosy: + Show Spoiler +On July 28 2015 04:11 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 21:13 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 21:05 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 20:58 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 20:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 19:56 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 18:09 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 18:03 n00bKing wrote:On July 27 2015 17:59 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 17:57 n00bKing wrote:
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lol, NONSENSE. What didn't you understand about "If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town)."?
I don't understand. You are saying: - I'm probably not the cop - On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you I don't understand why you are saying that. Especially the second part. HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT?? I still don't get why you are saying this: - On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you This is going nowhere. Let's stop here. Let's not stop here, I want an answer to this. Why would rels not check n00nking if rels is cop. Explain like I'm 5. You already called me dumb so I need extra spoon feeding. Really want an answer on this from n00b. I can not comment objectively, but I think Tiktock spoke the truth. We should concentrate on other people that noobking or myself. We're both pretty angry, so nothing productive will happen if we're pushed. Any thought on Sulfurus ruxxar ? ?? Why do you not want an answer to this question? I don't think his "answer" made ANY sense at all. Yesterday I was in his shoes. I wrote a big post saying how he was mafia for a tons of reasons, and when I reread it before posting I realize most of it was nonsense. I'm pretty happy I did not post it. I mean, read his last posts. He got progressively angry and started using majs. Mafia are usually calmer than that. I too don't understand this sentence, but I decided to ignore him for the day and let him and I get more calm. We'll continue this tomorrow. IMO you should do the same. Maybe I won't be like that if we didn't have other solid leads. But I feel Sulfurus and Flexes are very suspicious, and TT and MD are worth talking about. I'm always worth talking about... Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 23:43 NocturneMage wrote:On July 25 2015 18:31 Tictock wrote:Ok, so I'm reading Moosy's filter and this post just jumps out to me . On July 24 2015 22:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 22:35 ruXxar wrote:
Moosy..
What is this soul-read you have on me?
WIth perfect information comes the ease of covering your lies in pretty words. I still hate you. Spot spouting poetry shit and get to business you fool. Traps D1 like this are so bad it's ridiculous. It's completely dependent on the Mafia making a slip while people jump on your wagon. In either case, no one is taking you seriously at this point because of your poetry nonsense so you might as well just stop at this point. It's the last few hours we have. Get down to business. This post is rather Ironic due to the way Moosy himself played D1 as town in the last NSM, interesting as well since Moosy's ploy worked in that game. I also find it very interesting that MD is focusing so heavily on RuXx both in this post and in most of his filter. At the time of this post I had begun posting my tarot stuff which was clearly more nonsensical than ruxx's poetry, yet MD ignores my nonsense and focuses entirely on ruxx. In fact most of MD's filter is just arguments with ruxx over silly points, and none of it ever really goes anywhere. This leads me to believe that MD is not really interested in people focusing on the game (as he would have mentioned my Tarot stuff) and is actually just trying to create some filter by fighting and calling a few minor points out. There was also the overly long and drawn out stuff between MD and Breshke where MD kept dodging some questions. To me it looked like MD was trying to stir up something but when he got called out had to scramble to justify it. I actually think MD is a pretty good lynch here today. So gunna leave my vote on him and take another look at things nearer EoD. ##Vote: MoosyDoosy Looking at the Tictock/Moosy relationship and Tictock's filter from this standpoint. Is the Moosy scumread a meta read? The way Moosy is going about it is he's saying "I'm mafia" etc, and just seemingly (outside the townreads) making himself look dumb at points, which I assume is trolling, I read part of the last newbie and Moosy also seemed self destructive purposely in that game. Tictock, if Moosy is dodging questions like you are saying, how do you know it's not the same self-destructive stuff he did last game? How are you sure he's not doing it out of spite (which to me would be in line with the overall way he's acting)? I don't and that's the problem. I know he is capable of playing this way as town, but whats to prevent MD from using the same tactic as mafia to dodge questions and stuff? Posts like this are a perfect example of why MD looks so scummy to me. Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 19:29 disformation wrote:Oh just noticed. n00bKing already is voting for Sulfurus with his explanation of: On July 27 2015 05:13 n00bKing wrote:
#12: Sulfurus - Activity level is basically a perfect match for prior Scum games. First post was strange, and his posts have never improved. In his last scum game, his first post was strange, and his posts never improved. The only post of his that doesn't match his Scum games looks like a lazy mimic from his Town game in Newbie X, when he decided he couldn't figure out how to play Townie without being Townie, so he just does some copy & paste work from a game where he was Town. Reads are bad. Volunteers to offer more information about his reads, if anyone asks for it. People ask for information about his more controversial reads, and he fails to offer more information about some of them, while posting additional info about his read that already matched thread sentiment. Every time the dude posts, I do my best to read with an open mind, and then it just ends up being another strike against him. Since he has a similar view of Sulfurus meta as Rels I am getting more confident in Sulfurus being scum. Let's not forget I was the first one to mention Sulfurus ever once the game started. But then again, that was just me hard busing because i'm Mafia. So never mind. Carry on. -The bolded is true, but but it doesn't mean jack all. Never even bothered to push Sulf at all D1, then randomly votes N1. So he only really gets credit for mentioning that Sulf was in the game and that he's rolled mafia before. Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
/facepalm. I just realized that Sulfurus was in this game and that his first and only post was /in. I'm tempted to lynch him because it's my third game with him as well and he's rolled Mafia Godfather the last two times. Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 22:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
##Vote Sulfurus
He's probably Mafia Godfather tbh. - Then we get back to more "I'm mafia" talk. True he did this as town before, but he's only using it this game to dodge questions. Last game he was much more clearly using this tactic to try and be lynchbait but here it's only coming up when questions are asked of him or people push on him. I see no reason to believe this is not scum!MD trying to abuse something he did as town last game. So I feel just fine keeping my vote on him. Also do note, he didn't bother to share those reads until Night phase, during Day phase he did basically nothing and never even bothered to vote. Like nothing I read from MD D1 suggested to me he was at all interested in solving the game. In the second he explained how Sulfurus is a good lynch today, even though Sulfurus is voting for Moosy! See spoiler. + Show Spoiler +On July 28 2015 04:16 Tictock wrote:
In regards to Sulf.
I'm totally for him being a lynch target today. I've been saying pretty much all the same stuff as everyone making a case on him.
For now I dont mind leaving my vote on MD (for reasons I stated in last post) even though Sulf is voting for him as well. Based on his Auto list MD was clearly Sulf's next target so him placing a vote on him is just following through what he said in that post and NAI.
Having said that.
@Sul
Why don't you explain to us your reads in detail. Starting with why you think Moosy is the best lynch today.
Also, at what point do you rethink your list? A D1 PoE list is very unlikely to be accurate. In particular this paragraph: Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 04:16 Tictock wrote:
For now I dont mind leaving my vote on MD (for reasons I stated in last post) even though Sulf is voting for him as well. Based on his Auto list MD was clearly Sulf's next target so him placing a vote on him is just following through what he said in that post and NAI. makes exactly 0 sense to me. 2Tictock makes a post saying we should focus on people not on Barakos' wagon Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 09:03 Tictock wrote:
While I still think it is likely that at least one mafia bussed Bara, I do agree with Damdred and rayn here that it is a smart to focus on the people not on the Bara wagon. But in the SAME POST the person he attacks the most is Breshke, who voted on Barakos. Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 09:03 Tictock wrote:
Breshke is also lurking really hardcore this game, really making me think he is scum. I was masons with Bre and so I know he doesn't feel confident as scum (we talked about alot of stuff). Then he goes on to vote for him. Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 15:49 Tictock wrote:
Ok, pretty sure the scum team is Breshke and Scott.
I'm pretty sure on Scott, but I'm positive on Breshke now.
##Unvote
##Vote: Breshke
Will post cases on both as I get em done, with their filters it shouldn't take very long.
So I think TT has a good shot at being mafia. ##Unvote##Vote Tictock
1 - I think Sulf would be voting Moosy today regarless of his alignment, so it didn't bug me. As I explained.
2 - Your mis-reading what I posted here.
I agreed it was SMART to lynch off the Bara wagon, never said we SHOUKDN'T. In fact Moosy made a post regarding that recently that I kinda agreed with so.. yea.
My statement about Breshke in that post was me talking about all my scumreads, so I wasn't even attacking him. Just stating my opinion there.
Yep I voted him, and now there's a case up against him.
Also, how does me changing my mind about things make me scum?
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Honestly I don't get how any of you think I'm playing with a scum mindset.
Should I just stop posting and go away?
That seems to work for people...
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Also if everyone really wants to raise a stink about voting for someone on the Bara wagon, I am willing to move my vote to Scott here as well.
As I said I'm working on cases for both.
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On July 28 2015 17:13 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 17:01 Rels wrote:I have two problems with the posts Tictock made after I left yesterday. 1Tictock made two posts back to back. In the first he confirmed his scum read on moosy: + Show Spoiler +On July 28 2015 04:11 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 21:13 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 21:05 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 20:58 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 20:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 19:56 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 18:09 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 18:03 n00bKing wrote:On July 27 2015 17:59 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 17:57 n00bKing wrote:
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lol, NONSENSE. What didn't you understand about "If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town)."?
I don't understand. You are saying: - I'm probably not the cop - On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you I don't understand why you are saying that. Especially the second part. HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT?? I still don't get why you are saying this: - On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you This is going nowhere. Let's stop here. Let's not stop here, I want an answer to this. Why would rels not check n00nking if rels is cop. Explain like I'm 5. You already called me dumb so I need extra spoon feeding. Really want an answer on this from n00b. I can not comment objectively, but I think Tiktock spoke the truth. We should concentrate on other people that noobking or myself. We're both pretty angry, so nothing productive will happen if we're pushed. Any thought on Sulfurus ruxxar ? ?? Why do you not want an answer to this question? I don't think his "answer" made ANY sense at all. Yesterday I was in his shoes. I wrote a big post saying how he was mafia for a tons of reasons, and when I reread it before posting I realize most of it was nonsense. I'm pretty happy I did not post it. I mean, read his last posts. He got progressively angry and started using majs. Mafia are usually calmer than that. I too don't understand this sentence, but I decided to ignore him for the day and let him and I get more calm. We'll continue this tomorrow. IMO you should do the same. Maybe I won't be like that if we didn't have other solid leads. But I feel Sulfurus and Flexes are very suspicious, and TT and MD are worth talking about. I'm always worth talking about... Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 23:43 NocturneMage wrote:On July 25 2015 18:31 Tictock wrote:Ok, so I'm reading Moosy's filter and this post just jumps out to me . On July 24 2015 22:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 22:35 ruXxar wrote:
Moosy..
What is this soul-read you have on me?
WIth perfect information comes the ease of covering your lies in pretty words. I still hate you. Spot spouting poetry shit and get to business you fool. Traps D1 like this are so bad it's ridiculous. It's completely dependent on the Mafia making a slip while people jump on your wagon. In either case, no one is taking you seriously at this point because of your poetry nonsense so you might as well just stop at this point. It's the last few hours we have. Get down to business. This post is rather Ironic due to the way Moosy himself played D1 as town in the last NSM, interesting as well since Moosy's ploy worked in that game. I also find it very interesting that MD is focusing so heavily on RuXx both in this post and in most of his filter. At the time of this post I had begun posting my tarot stuff which was clearly more nonsensical than ruxx's poetry, yet MD ignores my nonsense and focuses entirely on ruxx. In fact most of MD's filter is just arguments with ruxx over silly points, and none of it ever really goes anywhere. This leads me to believe that MD is not really interested in people focusing on the game (as he would have mentioned my Tarot stuff) and is actually just trying to create some filter by fighting and calling a few minor points out. There was also the overly long and drawn out stuff between MD and Breshke where MD kept dodging some questions. To me it looked like MD was trying to stir up something but when he got called out had to scramble to justify it. I actually think MD is a pretty good lynch here today. So gunna leave my vote on him and take another look at things nearer EoD. ##Vote: MoosyDoosy Looking at the Tictock/Moosy relationship and Tictock's filter from this standpoint. Is the Moosy scumread a meta read? The way Moosy is going about it is he's saying "I'm mafia" etc, and just seemingly (outside the townreads) making himself look dumb at points, which I assume is trolling, I read part of the last newbie and Moosy also seemed self destructive purposely in that game. Tictock, if Moosy is dodging questions like you are saying, how do you know it's not the same self-destructive stuff he did last game? How are you sure he's not doing it out of spite (which to me would be in line with the overall way he's acting)? I don't and that's the problem. I know he is capable of playing this way as town, but whats to prevent MD from using the same tactic as mafia to dodge questions and stuff? Posts like this are a perfect example of why MD looks so scummy to me. Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 19:29 disformation wrote:Oh just noticed. n00bKing already is voting for Sulfurus with his explanation of: On July 27 2015 05:13 n00bKing wrote:
#12: Sulfurus - Activity level is basically a perfect match for prior Scum games. First post was strange, and his posts have never improved. In his last scum game, his first post was strange, and his posts never improved. The only post of his that doesn't match his Scum games looks like a lazy mimic from his Town game in Newbie X, when he decided he couldn't figure out how to play Townie without being Townie, so he just does some copy & paste work from a game where he was Town. Reads are bad. Volunteers to offer more information about his reads, if anyone asks for it. People ask for information about his more controversial reads, and he fails to offer more information about some of them, while posting additional info about his read that already matched thread sentiment. Every time the dude posts, I do my best to read with an open mind, and then it just ends up being another strike against him. Since he has a similar view of Sulfurus meta as Rels I am getting more confident in Sulfurus being scum. Let's not forget I was the first one to mention Sulfurus ever once the game started. But then again, that was just me hard busing because i'm Mafia. So never mind. Carry on. -The bolded is true, but but it doesn't mean jack all. Never even bothered to push Sulf at all D1, then randomly votes N1. So he only really gets credit for mentioning that Sulf was in the game and that he's rolled mafia before. Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
/facepalm. I just realized that Sulfurus was in this game and that his first and only post was /in. I'm tempted to lynch him because it's my third game with him as well and he's rolled Mafia Godfather the last two times. Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 22:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
##Vote Sulfurus
He's probably Mafia Godfather tbh. - Then we get back to more "I'm mafia" talk. True he did this as town before, but he's only using it this game to dodge questions. Last game he was much more clearly using this tactic to try and be lynchbait but here it's only coming up when questions are asked of him or people push on him. I see no reason to believe this is not scum!MD trying to abuse something he did as town last game. So I feel just fine keeping my vote on him. Also do note, he didn't bother to share those reads until Night phase, during Day phase he did basically nothing and never even bothered to vote. Like nothing I read from MD D1 suggested to me he was at all interested in solving the game. In the second he explained how Sulfurus is a good lynch today, even though Sulfurus is voting for Moosy! See spoiler. + Show Spoiler +On July 28 2015 04:16 Tictock wrote:
In regards to Sulf.
I'm totally for him being a lynch target today. I've been saying pretty much all the same stuff as everyone making a case on him.
For now I dont mind leaving my vote on MD (for reasons I stated in last post) even though Sulf is voting for him as well. Based on his Auto list MD was clearly Sulf's next target so him placing a vote on him is just following through what he said in that post and NAI.
Having said that.
@Sul
Why don't you explain to us your reads in detail. Starting with why you think Moosy is the best lynch today.
Also, at what point do you rethink your list? A D1 PoE list is very unlikely to be accurate. In particular this paragraph: On July 28 2015 04:16 Tictock wrote:
For now I dont mind leaving my vote on MD (for reasons I stated in last post) even though Sulf is voting for him as well. Based on his Auto list MD was clearly Sulf's next target so him placing a vote on him is just following through what he said in that post and NAI. makes exactly 0 sense to me. 2Tictock makes a post saying we should focus on people not on Barakos' wagon On July 28 2015 09:03 Tictock wrote:
While I still think it is likely that at least one mafia bussed Bara, I do agree with Damdred and rayn here that it is a smart to focus on the people not on the Bara wagon. But in the SAME POST the person he attacks the most is Breshke, who voted on Barakos. On July 28 2015 09:03 Tictock wrote:
Breshke is also lurking really hardcore this game, really making me think he is scum. I was masons with Bre and so I know he doesn't feel confident as scum (we talked about alot of stuff). Then he goes on to vote for him. On July 28 2015 15:49 Tictock wrote:
Ok, pretty sure the scum team is Breshke and Scott.
I'm pretty sure on Scott, but I'm positive on Breshke now.
##Unvote
##Vote: Breshke
Will post cases on both as I get em done, with their filters it shouldn't take very long.
So I think TT has a good shot at being mafia. ##Unvote##Vote Tictock 1 - I think Sulf would be voting Moosy today regarless of his alignment, so it didn't bug me. As I explained.
I don't know how you can say mafia!Sulfurus would be voting mafia!Moosy today, especially after:
1 - Losing a teammate yesterday.
2 - Moosy being one of the most suspicious player in the game, so this push may be ending in Moosy getting lynched.
It looks like you wanted to comment on Sulfurus 'cause everyone else was doing so, but didn't know what to say so said something illogical.
On July 28 2015 17:13 Tictock wrote:
2 - Your mis-reading what I posted here.
I agreed it was SMART to lynch off the Bara wagon, never said we SHOUKDN'T. In fact Moosy made a post regarding that recently that I kinda agreed with so.. yea.
My statement about Breshke in that post was me talking about all my scumreads, so I wasn't even attacking him. Just stating my opinion there.
Yep I voted him, and now there's a case up against him.
Also, how does me changing my mind about things make me scum?
Cause it's not logical. You said it is smart to focus on off voting people, then you don't focus on them.
It looks like you wanted to buddy rayn and Damdred, the two town read vets of the game.
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Another thing about your Breshke + scott team:
On July 26 2015 19:49 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 18:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I still think Flexes is mafia.
There is no reason a townie would say "i am writing a reads post right now" if they are not doing so.
I find that impossible.
Like this game is pretty straightforward. People who do scummy things are usually scum. If someone thinks they themselves did a scummy thing they are scum. rofl. Saying you are doing something you actually aren't is a scummy thing.
Flexes is lying, as proven by the thread. It doesn't matter if it "makes sense for him to do that as mafia". It matters that no townie ever says they are DOING something they actually aren't.
Simple things are simple. I want to lynch flexes more than moosey now. Also i don't see why people assume that barakos scum mates would have known he was going to stop playing. If he was around to tell them he wouldnt be posting it is very likely he would have just posted in the thread instead. I also like noobking even more now for his post on we should be looking for the most scummy people not the people most likely to bus because the later is stupid.
Breshke wants to lynch BOTH your old scum read (Moosy) and your new scum read (Flexes/scott).
Do you really think Breshke + scott is possible ?
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On July 28 2015 17:11 Breshke wrote:
But yeah im still not here so ignore this post
No idea what it is supposed to mean. Don't get offended and defend yourself.
When you're done with TT's case, question time: what is your current read (with explanations) of Sulfurus ?
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