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Kel is a town lean. I'm town, this is a good start | ||
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On June 17 2015 08:15 KelsierSC wrote: seriously can you shut the fuck up already with this shit you have just taken a shit in your hand and thrown whatever came out into the thread. I don't think your town and bringing up all this meta crap so early on is fucking irritating Even if I'm right and your town keep the bm out of thread. Its not needed even if you are annoyed at this point. I'll substantiate later, but I don't believe nhm or ls are capable of posting such as these as scum. Both are somewhat meta based reads. Kel is just a maybe town. I know I'm town obviously I also think gb is a decent shot as town but don't tell him I said that | ||
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On June 17 2015 08:25 KelsierSC wrote: you can explain ls right now actually...what has he posted that makes him town? There's a lot of shit but nothing of real value. There are two types of people that play mafia 1. Players who are capable of changing meta and care 2. Players who only play for one alignment and either refuse or can't change meta LS belongs in group 2, he's already done several of his town tells at this point. Digging up old,meta cases on him to show how people know him. He's sort of jokey, and he's willing to get into,confrontations to a degree. As scum he's lazy, he is serious and skittish. He's town to me at this juncture. | ||
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Option 3 players who I never real my meta read to because it's to accurate | ||
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Ls Nhm Rsoul Damdred Ritoky Town leans Kel Gb Breske This is a good start. Keep it coming boys and girls | ||
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On June 17 2015 08:52 wherebugsgo wrote: umm what why would your reasoning for calling Damdred town only matter to you? You need to qualify the read, otherwise it's pretty much a useless read. It is useful for me, for example, to be able to understand your reasoning so I can determine your alignment This is somewhat untrue because I'm a difficult person overall to read and rs uses a somewhat obtuse way to get to the place. Usually has a 95% starting accuracy though | ||
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But people are generally being more vocal and somewhat easier to read. Besides that debating ish would just trust ls read on bugs. | ||
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However I,hate that list post going into the scum,bucket. | ||
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So I think,scum bad but not 100% sure. I don't see any real conclusions or reasons for town etc. Though it's a hit hypocritical for me to say that. It just doesn't jibe because he tries to half ass the post | ||
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On June 17 2015 09:24 GlowingBear wrote: Taking Nydus out of the town list for this post Why? | ||
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On June 17 2015 09:24 NydusHerMain wrote: Damdred have you gave any reasoning for any of your reads yet other than meta? You did a hell of a lot of it last game. Actually meta is a huge part of my game in the early goings as well as tone etc., Rsoultin is because she's my waifu that's acting like a pita. I've answered about ls I believe Kel is his attitude and his wanting to dig into people. Gb because of the wanting to give reads and get people involved. Rit is pure meta and I'd rather never explain You are meta+content at this point compared to last game. | ||
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Everything I right has some value. | ||
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On June 17 2015 09:33 Fidei86 wrote: @shock in the last game a lot of people (including me) called Damdred out for not making too many reads or being too 'wishy-washy'. He was town. I'd say his play so far is pretty much the same as last time, albeit that as I said he seems a tad more polished. That could def be more of a reaction to getting so much flak last time. This post made me laugh You guys still don't understand what wishy washy or middle,of,the road is hehe | ||
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Getting conversation stimulated is important | ||
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On June 17 2015 09:38 Fidei86 wrote: @damdred well since you nearly carried town to victory in HG maybe I should start respecting the 'wishy-washy' style :-) Lol that's the last thing this forum needs more me style players. | ||
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All a sudden my gut says shockey is town...it's for bassist reasons though, so I might ! have to hedge my bets like palmar | ||
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Maw, one of his responses to Rsoultin where he went sorta ticklish to her stinks of town. Just doesn't feel like suck trying to survive | ||
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On June 17 2015 10:32 KelsierSC wrote: going to sleep if hf does something assume i did the same This hints at it pretty heavily and of true makes the game much easier | ||
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BM might be an ok lynch | ||
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I just don't care if ik wrong on you till later or better players catch you lol. But besides that I don't think its alignment indicative that RS pushed on you for doing nothing, I wanted to push on you to to engage. It happens you are engaged I think you are town. Which I'm glad of currently. Rs is always stubborn and bangs her head against the brick wall when people come against her like this, especially as town not usually as scum as she's generally a bit more accompdating. In fact she somewhat did the same thing in ippo mafia when people called her out for a few reasons like attitude etc., shit fights galore. I think it is alignment indicative that RS is acting like this and she's town. besides that her reads come from a pretty safe place where her scum reads would be a bit more... Strange if that makes sense, its hard for me to quantify like this, but for instance when I gave a read on people instead of being like. Damdred could be scum but this person is town for his read. She's seperatly evaluating people to their own merit. Sadly I won't be able to use this point again but it is what it is. | ||
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On June 17 2015 13:20 Holyflare wrote: and damdred i literally just showed that not to be the case (that i actually don't do stuff - especially as she was pushing me after 1 post ^^) but yeh the rest of it i have no problems with I remember a few slower games where you break out early to stir discussion as both alignments which is why I would have it as more null than anything. But yeah its really a non point | ||
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However, i'm not sure if I would lynch Fidei86 or not, he buddied up to me pretty good.... But yea that list doesn't look bad to me Oneg is still null for me I guess. | ||
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GB, I currently don't have a scum lean/read its just a straight POE lynch list at this juncture. Most of everyone who posted anything considerable has looked pretty towny at this juncture. Not sure if its horrible or not that i'm not super paranoid at this moment | ||
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On June 17 2015 14:17 NydusHerMain wrote: Well you're not really fighting anyone who has a scum read on you... didn't you fight back and try to disprove people in holy guardians when you were town? What's there to fight exactly? People throw my name out without much explanation. You say I'm different because I'm not as analytical which not sure exactly there is to fight against there. last game there were a lot of untrue things being said ie I'm middle of the road no reads etc. | ||
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Being as this is a Hts game I'm trying not to be abbrassive XD | ||
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That's frustrating | ||
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But seriously LS I got you bud, don't worry partner. | ||
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If you look at his filter and compare it to HG which just finished a lot of the things he talks about in that game are really fluid and confrontational at parts trying to figure out the truth on players or get his view points into the thread. Also when he doesn't like what players are doing he is going to get into their face. Look at what hes doing here, hes really not trying to rock the boat overall. He is trying to pocket/buddy up to people and is being noncommittal and not really following much up at this point or talking about anything worth while. I'm pretty sure this guy is mafia. | ||
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On June 18 2015 07:09 Mig wrote: Damdred I have seen you post defending/calling a ton of people town so far. Who do you actually think is scum? I town hunt and go from their after I read filters or what not. Its accurate to a point, it bothers people but I gave one scum read while you wrote this *shrug* | ||
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On June 18 2015 07:09 Damdred wrote: I actually think Fiede is mafia here guys and is a really good vote today. If you look at his filter and compare it to HG which just finished a lot of the things he talks about in that game are really fluid and confrontational at parts trying to figure out the truth on players or get his view points into the thread. Also when he doesn't like what players are doing he is going to get into their face. Look at what hes doing here, hes really not trying to rock the boat overall. He is trying to pocket/buddy up to people and is being noncommittal and not really following much up at this point or talking about anything worth while. I'm pretty sure this guy is mafia. I really want responses here. Because its a good point, especially with how he thought purged last game and been so side line here. | ||
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On June 18 2015 07:12 Holyflare wrote: forgot he was in the game, lots of policy talk not bad vote either way, why not talk about bf at all ever? Because I don't really have anything smart to say about him at this point, I know you wrote several things that I liked about him. And hes on my probably would lynch but just my own feeling at this point. | ||
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However LS is still town, and i'd rather stop talking about that and get back to talking about Fied or even box. | ||
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On June 18 2015 07:21 rsoultin wrote: Not lynching fidei Not lynching ls by a slightly lesser degree Next, damdy? Why not fidei? | ||
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That's not good enough for me RS and you know it | ||
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Threads not fun to read at all and I was really looking forward to this game. I'll probably just sheep Ritoky or HF when the time comes. Any questions for me just ask | ||
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He never even followed up on anything that I said or did, or tried to get me to answer any of his other questions in his filter which is interesting. Instead just defending himself. Breshke was a town read, falling off a bit wouldn't lynch today however. GB i'm still town reading. | ||
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On June 18 2015 07:43 Lohengramm wrote: well this game is boring, no one will talk to me I'm going to make dinner You actually need to talk to us you know... theres almost 70 pages worth of content XD | ||
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On June 18 2015 07:42 Damdred wrote: Well one thing that's interesting is that when Shockey posted his notes he spent the most time in the entire thing talking about me, or quoting my posts. However I provided a good bit of content at that point forward. He never even followed up on anything that I said or did, or tried to get me to answer any of his other questions in his filter which is interesting. Instead just defending himself. Breshke was a town read, falling off a bit wouldn't lynch today however. GB i'm still town reading. Please don't ignore me, I need attention before I go to my corner. | ||
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I wish I could of been here though that sucks like 30 pages behind I'll catch up ahortly | ||
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can I have recap | ||
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...anything else or who's filter I should focus on specifically while I attempt to make a dent | ||
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So going to read mugs filter etc | ||
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GB do you think the amount of effort bugs has given is congruent with his normal town game? I've only glanced at his scum games but this does seem a bit extreme from what I read so far level of effort etc. If he's scim | ||
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Driving now ten reading that | ||
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And Ritoky I have had no internet and behind like 60 pages I'll do stuff but I'd rather interact while I can as well | ||
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YOU NEVER KILL GB HERE, 21 pages of filter? Day 2? Damdred is over here with like 6 pages maybe (I haven't checked) and 0 votes. GB activity is alignment indicative whether you agree or disagree with what he is saying. You never lynching GB here | ||
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GB is more than likely never scum in this scenario. If he is totally changed his meta and deserves a big pat on the back. However Mig, asks questions that lead no where. Writes a good bit about certain things but doesn't really go along with it, wastes vote without pushing anything today. Is pretty inactive (pot meet kettle) is totally on the side line not getting involved. Conclussions are rather lacking and following some of thread sentiment. | ||
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I wouldn't fight super hard against his lynch, but I think i'd rather a mig lynch. | ||
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IDK what to think about that, I just have to chuckle. | ||
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And yes actually your filter is very blendy without really pushing anything, you are in the side lines not really sticking your neck out going against thread sentiment. Even here when you complain about me being at eod you make it into some form of scathing defense instead of trying to draw some form of conclusion from. Obviously if I could of been here I would have as its not alignment indicative. | ||
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On June 22 2015 05:48 GlowingBear wrote: Damdred, vote Yamato with me I think Shockey is town and that Mig could be town I honestly might vote Yamato to save you but look at migs replies to me and at least tell me if i'm reading to much into the defensiveness. | ||
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I take all the critism that I haven't been active because of X or Y reasons. Its a valid complaint and its made my game play look like shit the past 70 hours more than likely. Some things in your filter are really scummy. And I would vote Yamato or mig. I think mig could also be bussing here not thinking that Yamato could get the votes needed to be lynched | ||
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I'd be happy with a mig or yam lynch | ||
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Get on yamato. | ||
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This post... this pst... | ||
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Anyway, I think we should switch to yamato in this situation. | ||
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On June 22 2015 06:26 Breshke wrote: Why should he flip his read because of a green check when there could be a framer or a GF in the game. If the flip was weird because it wasn't backed up by reasons then it should still be weird. A green heavy doesn't mean much at this stage It means enough not to look there the day after and look elsewhere unless all you have left is the gf or framer. | ||
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If i'm lynched i'm ok with it I sort of deserve it for unfortunate things happening | ||
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On June 22 2015 06:32 Holyflare wrote: Because you were afk the entire day and just as it gets to deadline you hardcore defend gb and haven't said a word about anything we've said about gb all day. I've only just got my wires back to working 100% after the 2nd repair. I've read GB filter and I believe my read idk what else to say about that. | ||
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HF why did you switch to yam when you are so sure of gb and wanted to fight it the whole way? Rsoultin how sure are you on Fidei at this point still? | ||
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On June 22 2015 06:41 Holyflare wrote: Are you actually kidding me? He's an un cc'd blue and things that made him fucking dumb today like defending mig's switch and calling me bad make more sense with a green check. Even if he's stupid. I was messing with you a little bit, but its only cause I love you. | ||
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On June 22 2015 06:40 rsoultin wrote: fidei is my mason buddy since you already outed it and i'd be pissed if you guys shennanied onto him i figured once i was inevitably nk'd it would be too obvious for the most braindead of all players to mistake he was my partner lol I'm actually surprised you made it past n1 with how you softed. I feel bad for outing it but maybe we kill the rb and they have to choose between two confirmed town and gb getting a check lol | ||
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But we have 3 blue claims, a green check on the wagon. The shockeyy vote is a little strange to me but not as bad as I thought as he had yamato casually as scum but last second band wagon deserves a bit more attention either way. Ritoky is bothering me for some reason i'm not sure why.... | ||
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I'd probably be ok with Shockey maybe oneg I need to read rux | ||
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I don't want to give excuses where I've been if anyone cares enough they can message me. Otherwise we can lynch me tomorrow or I can be useful in the meantime. I'd rather be useful and catch up extensively on what I've missed. I'll start reading now. | ||
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On June 25 2015 07:43 Fidei86 wrote: @Mig also also, rsoult starting breadcrumbing me literally day 1, and has had to work a lot harder to make up for my generally shoddy level of play. And, in fact, we weren't even the ones who outed ourselves - that was Damdred. This is true, if they are scum I engineered there blue claim and its my fault lol. | ||
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There are a few things to consider, there is 100% information and then there is non perfect information. You have perfect information on yourself, in the world you want us to believe the one where you are a tracker. In this world you tracked Vayne to Bugs n1, You don't know what this means. It could mean that Vayne hit Bugs with a kp and bugs was a vet at that point (during d2). But you never really seem to be pressing on vayne at all in your filter to figure out this information. You do harp on yamato and want to get him lynched. However when Gb claims if you are actually tracker you KNOW that there probably will not be more than one cop type role in this game or very very seldom will it be that way in a non themed game. But instead of going OK GUYS WE LYNCH 100% MAFIA IN GB TODAY. You go NO, DONT LYNCH GB LYNCH YAMATO. You don't act like someone who basically has a CC and act completely differently the next day towards gb than you did around the time of the claim, in fact why did you even track GB? You are sure that hes not the cop, but you claim he didn't move. He claims he has a red check on HF. You are full of lies it looks like to me. | ||
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I apologize for that and i'll take the flack after the game, but don't call me scum because of that obviously. | ||
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On June 25 2015 07:58 Holyflare wrote: well done you just outlined what we've already said lol I've had a really really really really bad week and a half hf and i'm trying to be just a little bit productive when I can. So even if you are frustrated at me please know i'm more frustrated at a lot of things so even things in jest are really frustrating to me at this juncture. | ||
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On June 25 2015 08:01 Mig wrote: Guys guys guy, just take a minute and look at it from my viewpoint. You just fake claimed to get a cop killed? A cop who had a green check on you? What viewpoint is that? | ||
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On June 25 2015 08:04 Holyflare wrote: well dude, I'm sorry :/ to me it looks like you are mafia though so it seems a bit fake when you make elaborate posts saying what's obvious mig is 100% dying tomorrow though and I suggest you read the game to see what happened and make an informed decision I hope everything's ok though man Well in my defense I was trying to get mig lynched yesterday before GB green checked him in the thread which is really frustrating at this point lol. I"ll try to read the game though and give thoughts but if I double up on whats already been said its just what it is. And it should be at some point. | ||
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Or you did a stupid play. I'd like to believe #1 over #2. It doesn't matter if I have totally read the thread at this point or not, the simple truth is that you did a very mafiaish play. IE its very clear what type of mafia VA thinks we are dealing with here, a group of players who are dodging medic protection. GB is an obviously hit so he protects someone else, its pretty simple. And a legitimate reason why GB is alive, wifom is alive during the nights as well. Its just really simple to me, I mean Could not have a rb. I mean theres loads of possibilities besides this makes GB 100% scum | ||
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On me for being way behind. And on HF, though red check on him makes that a bit wifom either way. | ||
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On June 25 2015 08:13 rsoultin wrote: it's like you're channeling me after the fact would much rather you have been here to help me stop the lynch and actually kill mig i am not happy with you damdy -_- PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: IN CASE IT WASN'T OBVIOUS IF YOU'RE THE REAL JK THINKING OF CCING DO NOT DO SO PLEASE AND THANK YOU  ^ not gonna bother with va at the moment but yeah too much stupid this game not to have to post that yes fidei i breadcrumbed you like a mofo d1...it was blindingly obvious to anyone bothering to pay attention I'm sorry | ||
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Give us some reads and reasoning behind them. Take a step back and give us the scum team reasoning etc. | ||
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On June 25 2015 08:37 Damdred wrote: Which btw mig, if you lied about being a tracker. Why did you successfully guess that VA visited bugs? Or someone did rather | ||
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On June 25 2015 08:39 NydusHerMain wrote: LOL or MiG could be donkey town, and VA could have fake claimed jailer rofl but I doubt that... No, let mig answer. He successfully said that he tracked someone to bugs and that person either blocked a kp or saved them. How would he know this information if he isn't tracker? | ||
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On June 25 2015 08:41 Holyflare wrote: the word rhymes with bafia Why can't you let me have my fun hf? | ||
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If theres another reason we can talk about then yeah, but otherwise idk what the point is me getting mig into a corner that could convince fringe people for sure I suppose. | ||
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1) I either flip VT in which case GB MUST be killed. No if's or buts. I very very very much doubt that mafia were like "hey, GB is cop and he's obviously going to check the guy he was fighting with all day let's frame HF" and GB got unlucky. I won't ever buy that situation. We are talking about the mafia team who totally decided not to kill either rsoultin or fid n1 even though they basically hard claimed mason d1. And RS isn't that bad a player, instead they went after bugs (or hes scum) and kel who isn't a bad kill but is a really safe kill. That speaks to me of a not so good scum team personally, or a sub optima not paying attention one who could of really framed you instead of going for someone else. Besides that you could be a miller. And on another point activity for you is not alignment indicative to an extent, for example Christmas carol around your lynch you wer super active and went ball to the wall to try to not get lynched as scum. But once again i'm not sure that you would of chosen the kills like that d1 either. But as of now i'm pretty much thinking you are more of a miller or framed than mafia potentially, as I read the post it read a bit more like town hf than scum at this point. 1) Activity isn't really alignment indicative of me and its never been, generally I am much more active. But its never been an he does this as X alignment, as seen in the newbie game where you are scum and I just didn't do jack all and was really busy. Or in my last scum game iw as seriously afk early on. I do it as both alignemnts depending on whats going on so I don't think that's really alignment indicative. 2) I can read people pretty good early based on meta, and the people I had in those 8 posts I have a decently strong reasons at that point to call them town. And funny enough so far I've been pretty dead on so that's a pretty nice boost to myself. 3) I'd rather not defend myself to to much about my internet issue, but when my internet went out...a lot of my other electrical devices weren't in the best of shape afterwards lets just put it in that category. 4) You have more than three games to your name in fact i'm pretty sure we have played at least 10 games together, so no that post really doesn't mean anything. And besides that YOU ASKED ME TO TALK ABOUT RSOULTIN, and even said besides that point you agreed with me. What are you even doing here? 5) I did sheep hf onto boxfred when I voted. boxerfred (6): Holyflare, GlowingBear, Breshke, rsoultin, Fidei86, Damdred I voted not to get mod killed/warned. Which I got warned today so really doesn't matter I suppose. Overall it just seems like you are throwing crap to an extent and avoiding context on a few things to make me worse. So idk how I feel about you now honestly I wouldn't lynch you tomorrow but... | ||
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And I did come out with a scum read on mig and pushed him around lynch the next day until the fake green check which totally sucked ass in retrospect -_-. Overlal I've scuekd i'll admit it but it doesn't make me scum | ||
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HF did you ever respond to,my response to you? | ||
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On June 27 2015 23:05 ruXxar wrote: Damdred I want to ask you: What specifically about Shockey don't you like? Could you give me a couple sentences to understand a bit how you're thinking? I want your own take on it. Besides shockey, who are you suspicious off? General lack of care is the first thing that bugs me,about him. Besides that point during the tomato lynch he was basically completely ark just had vague suspicions of him in his filter. Jumps on to make sure nothing shenanigans happens. Without helping the thread out. To go back a bit when he was also starting to get scum read instead of trying to not be he kept giving excuses instead of reads like people were asking. No real scum reads anymore it feels like | ||
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On June 27 2015 23:05 ruXxar wrote: Damdred I want to ask you: What specifically about Shockey don't you like? Could you give me a couple sentences to understand a bit how you're thinking? I want your own take on it. Besides shockey, who are you suspicious off? Missed the last question Would have to be a mix of va, you, hf, oneg. Its not that I don't totally disbelieve va claim, I don't want to th I non k about balance yet though, but it's possible,he's fake claiming with mig but Idk yet. Hf is sorta a dick this game coups be scum...but red check meh Idk. Oneg is oneg | ||
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I'll try to,be,more concrete after work. | ||
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I don't give a duck what you do or say. How,the Fuck do,I know when people made town based on,meta because I'm Fucking good at doing it. So Fuck you all. And excuse day three Fuck you shockey I'm not going to prattle on about why I was ark the people who,Fucking cared messaged me and know those who didn't Fuck them. You all can dog pile on,me all you Fucking,g want, your probably scum and I don't give a rat's ass | ||
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Idc if hf is town or scum he should Fucking,know me better than that and not use these Fucking lame ads excuses with,me,weirdly defending people which I do every game. So,whatever. | ||
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But if we go with just recent history on games and ignore the other games yes rs was wrong. If you ignore my past and just look at recent stuff I town hunt a lot. I mean d1 I'd mostly that. With odd defenses at the same time to. | ||
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Had scum read d1 on shockey and fid. Rs hard claims mason with fid I back off, shock was enough of a dick,for me to,turn that around. D2 scum read on mig push mig. Gb claims green I back off. Not here d3 Shows some scum reads today | ||
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Though obviously the post implies it changed slightly shrug | ||
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And that's frustrating. And your right I'm not taking into account that bugs could,of,been carrying to you etc. Lots of possibilities in that. And besides that, I,had a decent tone read and,content read on nhm early but he's kinda fallen off of,a cliff which is disappointing. So have to look back at that. Va is claimed jk. I don't think off the top my head that jk mason and cop is to strong at this,juncture. Rux still,could be scum,but he is pressuring and trying to,figure out the game at this,juncture which is a plus. Shockey to an extent is trying to,throw whatever mud he can on anyone. Ie his response to, ls. Ls I still think is town. Mig is scum. Got lot more people though to read. Hf is interesting, Idk | ||
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On June 28 2015 04:25 NydusHerMain wrote: At least we know mig is mafia. If game was going to be over with the mig lynch, I don't think mafia would even bother posting. Why you have to drop off | ||
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On June 28 2015 04:40 NydusHerMain wrote: Are you trying to say activity is alignment indicative? I've given my stance on this game For son people activity is indicative, I still,think your activity and ideas day one were pretty good so I still think you have a good shot at town. However dropped off pretty hard and on an afk day when we probably have mafia up you have been,pretty mia instead of helping a bot more. Which granted is a little,hypocritical of me | ||
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For instance you talked about looking at how people voting in regards that meg flips scum. Let's pretend he ! already has. So where does that take you. | ||
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But talk me through what you are thinking rux and why was who is strongest important? | ||
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Not in lylo- _- | ||
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If you lynch hf do it for a real reason not just a red check as in a totally closed setup doesn't mean quite as much. For example why would scum team totally sacrifice mig for hf there? Idk what the point is except we go gb, mig then hf in that scenario. It looks much more likely atm that role cop gb drew Out vayne and we have a mislynch in hf incoming. | ||
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I have to look through hf filter a bit to see if I see anything. But right now time is better spent getting thoughts out or questioning any inconsistencies you find | ||
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For example we really don't know what the scum team has, its possible that they don't have a rb or a godfather etc. Have a framer or we have a Miller. Sometimes a red check just doesn't mean as much in a closed setup then it does in an open setup. Does that mean hf is lock town? No he is the best scum player on site after all. Rs and gb are probably unobtrusive fists at me currently but yeah I just want to find the other two scum before we decide on hf | ||
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On June 28 2015 08:22 ruXxar wrote: What makes you sure HF will be around for so long? Why wouldn't scum,keep a red check around to mislynch one day? | ||
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Ls thinks he's towny but would lynch him. So it's not like it's hard to get him lynched. Unless you think the team is me hf and oneg. Which is I,sulting | ||
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On June 28 2015 08:36 VayneAuthority wrote: heres what it comes down to for me 2 out of damdred, onegu, and shockeyy are scum imo, have to figure out who is town of those. Could you at least explain why you think,I'm scum if it's just Poe so,be it but a quick explanation | ||
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Having his team mate sacrifice himself,for a cop during the game,and getting himself lynched next. Super weird kills? It just doesn't look right for a hf scuk | ||
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One thing to consider when looking at the night kills is was this person trying to solve the game. Ij some regards it points to an experienced scum maybe hf maybe not. The team took out some people who were legitimately trying to solve the game. So I mean there are some things going for hf being scum, buy I also think that the weird mig claim. The masons surviving unscathed for so long, especially when RS is a good player and the d1 lynch is towards hf being town. | ||
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However we are still in a world where you could of had your shot blocked so I have to consider you. | ||
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oneg why did you vote for GB in the situation? LS why did you vote for GB yesterday? Especially when rmconfirmed town RS pushed against it? | ||
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Like LS why would you believe mig over GB int hat situation? | ||
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I mean that's not like you in that situation ls -_-. Other than that where else is your head at ls | ||
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GlowingBear (5): VayneAuthority, Mig, Holyflare, LightningStrike, Onegu Mig (3): ruXxar, rsoultin, Fidei86 This vote isn't as telling as I thought it could potentially be. GB is AFK on his red check of HF here, myself and shockey are both non voters. So the votes not going to be as useful as I hoped. And I keep coming back to HF, his vote here is just self preservation at its finest and one side of the coin is that he can talk himself out of a lynch as scum and mig can't. So theres that to hrmmmm. This is a difficult game, Oneg and LS votes bug me a lot It looks really good for ruxxar a little bit voting on now confirmed scum mig | ||
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I had a decent town read on him earlier, and his activity really seems like town LS even when he screws himself over by saying whatever is in his head which he is apt to do as town. His ignoring Rsoultin is difficult for me to cope with in that situation, but his vote isn't as bad as Onegs is in that situation I think. Him voting with LS and just calling it consolidation when red check hf or fake claiming mig could of died just rubs me the wrong way I guess?... LS crazy theory about being green checked but he was framed.... idk, it just read sso bad and scummy that it might just come from town LS which is one of the strangest things about him. Its difficult so difficult. LS give me some reads? | ||
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You always think i'm scum though Vayne which is sad overall I think | ||
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On June 29 2015 10:20 NydusHerMain wrote: Oh and don't forget that VA jailed me the night that RS died. If I'm on a scum team, I'm probably the lowest on everyone's radar. I carry the kp 100% This logic is bad, VA was more than likely RB if they have one, its impossible for us to know though. But likely to a degree On June 29 2015 10:39 Holyflare wrote: and I find it odd you randomly want to sheep rsoultin because of what logic exactly? That she was pushing me? She also lynched boxerfred, yamato and was going to lynch glowingbear before he claimed cop. So why exactly do you think she's correct and sheepable now? You know that this is wrong HF idk why you would say something like this exactly. On June 29 2015 11:28 Holyflare wrote: No, actually. Town sentiment was overwhelmingly that I was town. I was the only one pushing that I should die purely for the information. So, knowing that I was town read and since you say that the sentiment was going to a Mig lynch. You are saying he claimed tracker on the spur of the moment to reveal the jk and lynch gb. If this was the case then he automatically undoes everything that I was doing the entire day and getting town read just to associate him with me? That was his plan? "hey my buddy hf is doing pretty well at getting town read, let's fuck him over!" I don't think that's a thing that happens. You're also forgoing my d2 play where the entire day was me getting into a shit fight with GB because me and rsoultin were calling Mig mafia the entire day and Glowingbear was defending him the entire day: + Show Spoiler + very likely Mig for doing his shitty switch. BF's post wasn't even bad and I'm pretty sure multiple people had the same reaction as me that it seemed pretty open and honest and Mig had a massive scum read on you (his second post was a case on you) but was very easily switched off of you onto BF No, it's actually nothing to do with association. If you are town then Mig switched his vote onto a boxerfred whom was not awful looking while having a massive scum read on you all of the game for a really tedious reason. If you flip town it's still scummy because it causes the great confusion we are in today. On June 21 2015 05:24 Holyflare wrote: Shockey has been posting his entire thought process. I've been quizzing him endlessly, I'm still not even sure on him. Mig is nowhere in site, he had no reason to switch at all. Absolutely nowhere did he site the reasons "gb is playing and bf isn't even though bf said he couldn't play" Like I said previously, he said everything that you were doing was mafia orientated. My point still stands. You are still intentionally prolonging this exchange because you know it's what you need to survive. bla bla there's an endless list of me attacking mig and gb doing shit defences of him Regardless, on another note you keep saying how you've "pushed" shockey and Onegu but outline how some of those people are easy mislynches if you're mafia. Why do you keep mentioning that like it's a point in your favour? Actually HF this kinda brings a question to mind. I know you did push MIG d2 which isn't really alignment indicative to a point is a slight plus for you I think. However why did you believe migs claim over GB? Was it just a survival type deal to save yourself that day or did you think GB was the scummier of the two at that point? Just take me through your thought process here. And also people, stop being lazy fucks and look at other people besides HF. There are 2 more mafia besides him, we won't lose the game if we lynch them before we decide if hf is mafia.... Like ignore the red check and look at other people for gods sake. | ||
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FId is confirmed town I know i'm town obviously. This leaves me in a world where all I have to do is find town in Onegu, Shockey, HF, NHM and Rux. There are two towns and three mafia in this group. Content wise HF could look ok, red check withstanding I still want some more of his thoughts around the GB lynch. Oneg has 0 real content voted with his mafia read in lynching GB which was headed by confirmed mafia mig. Shockey is sort of weird. Rux could of carried a shot and got blocked or been shot, he seem to be trying to solve the game though that is true, but isn't really evolving his reads in a way. Its a sort of a hard game at thi sjuncture though | ||
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On June 30 2015 03:26 LightningStrike wrote: On top of that Nydus also had a 4 page filter in 4 Days and he gotten 11 pages and was around like 9-10 area at End of Day 4 I don't think its exactly fair to compare filter lengths in the two gams, one is a bit longer than the other. So, in your world it would be Ruxxor, HF, Shockey and Oneg as the last scum candidates yea? Which one is town ls | ||
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There are only two answers at this point 1) Set up a mislynch on HF the next following day where a red check screwed up town and lost the game. 2) HF is the RB and is needed to block vayne so that the kill isn't blocked the next night. If we believe option 2 then rux is more than likely not mafia at all. Option one he still could be. | ||
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Let me be clear that I would much rather lynch Oneg today over HF, his lack of explanation regarding the vote on GB (his explanation as just consolidation) with his scum read LS makes me really want to lynch him, especially when scum mig could of been lynched instead in that situation I believe. I really don't want to get into the nk wifom yet, however it is a valid point that a lot of people who ere nk early WERE town reading you. While I don't think that this clears you from suspicion because these were the people who were actively trying to figure the game out rather than rely on other people, it is important there reads. | ||
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On June 30 2015 06:45 NydusHerMain wrote: If we're not voting unanimously and even one town votes on another town, mafia can swap all their votes at eod and we lose. That's why we need to pick one target if it was 4 v 3 that would be true. But its not As long as town has a majority on mafia one dumb town can exist. On June 30 2015 06:46 NydusHerMain wrote: At the end of the day, it's on Fidei to pick the final lynch because he's guaranteed town No, no its not. On June 30 2015 06:58 ruXxar wrote: I also agree with nydus point here. Right now the absolutely easiest mislynch is Onegu(imo). If I was mafia and onegu was town I would make her my #1 target right now and push her very hard. This is sort of a dilemma because he actually does appear really scummy and I don't agree with the way he plays or the logic he uses. However, since no one else seems to be shitting down onegu's throat, it makes me more inclined to believe he's actually mafia(why wouldn't mafia be all over a target that is such an easy mislynch?!) In my last game I got fooled by the "too obvious to be scum" idea in that I felt a certain person made such obviously scummy moves that no one would make it so obvious that they are scum. It burned me in the end when it turned out the person was scum all along and I hard defended him as town. I learned from this and at this point "too scummy to be scum" is not a valid excuse for me to not push someone. I think this is a weird way to phrase what you actually mean about onegu? It looks weird to me at least. And whats your conclusion on all of this? | ||
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HOWEVER, we still are working with a three scum team and nobody is even trying to figure out who the other members are, they are trying to convince HF THAT HF IS SCUM! This is possibly the most counter productive thing that we can do. Or pass off responsibility for a good lynch on confirmed town Fide. | ||
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On June 30 2015 07:43 ruXxar wrote: #1 I don't agree. There's no way mig could've known that VA would out himself. Without the claim by VA, I'm fairly certain it would've failed. Why not just let HF die and get +1 townkill before he died himself? Seems like a really dumb move to me. #2 is possibility but it's sort of out there... what made you think of this? Ummmm I don't think you understand how #1 works. It doesn't revolve Vayne outing himself at all, however Scum knows that someone interacted in some way with Bugs night one. That's an added bonus. And honestly, Mig was outed as mafia anyway in gbs world 100% anyway. Theres no way he should of lived through the night as the cop just pure disbelief of the claim and no reason to let him get another check anyway. And actually his claim was perfect to draw out the rb or jk (even though they knew it was a jk anyway). And #2 happens all the time. | ||
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Shockey isn't doing shit, oneg isn't doing shit. LS isn't doing shit either which bothers me. HF is doing the most, which granted isn't as alignment indicative but like I've been saying for the past 24 hours there are other mafia besides hf I you think hf is one. Ruxars last post just feels fake btw | ||
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On July 01 2015 01:01 Holyflare wrote: if you ever use statistics in a game of mafia with me again i will hunt you down till the ends of the earth and berate you for eternity even after that statistics have no place in a game of mafia, at all if you play based on statistics you will lose 50% of your games if you play based on statistics then you aren't playing the game of mafia if you play based on statistics you will never be good My statistics show we have a 3/8 chance to hit mafia by rnging | ||
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If he's scum and he gets lynched we have no real new information besides little blurbs so stop just attacking him make him talk about only other people and you do the same. For example shockey asked me if I felt like oneg had done more, the answer is no I made an arbitrary list of people not doing jack shit inlylo and obviously don't care. They don't care | ||
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Anyway id probably rather lynch shockey today, weird d1 votes. D2 ran in without contributing to vote Yamato. Isn't trying to solve game today just get upset when he's called out | ||
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and as long as 4 townies get majority on a mafia one town can do what they want, that's what you guys aren't getting. I getting lunch be back | ||
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Idk why hf is defending shockey like this when,shock really hasn't done much today? | ||
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On July 01 2015 06:52 ShoCkeyy wrote: And what have you done?...... Like you're seriously being ignorant. Actually contributed while I'm here instead of being defensive and angry all the time | ||
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On July 01 2015 06:54 Fidei86 wrote: Can we move onto Damdred? I'm giving it the old 360 no scope I'll switch to make sure I'm lynched to so rs can berate you post game | ||
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Was ls framed for a green check (very unlikely with how shockey pushed him). I think he's town Was hf framed. The night gb cop checked him. Its something to think about | ||
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Its wifom but as scum I would of just road whatever cred I could,manage at that point. | ||
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Also knowing hf, if he were scum I feel like he would,100% want the framer to flip over hard defending him. So he could use that in his defense. Kinda deep,hf is town here | ||
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However we most play the game,now. I think it's a hard spot the game. Is in there's at least one mafia bussing maybe two. Like let's say I'm town if oneg is town and hf is scum it's pretty likely a vote is parked on shock earlish. I kinda think the way the lynch happened hf could be town so why didn't scum,switch and just get oneg end the game? Obviously one of,hf and oneg is scum. The second one is someone in ls, rux and nhm. Kinda leaning towards rux on a gut feeling atm. Just kinda thought dumping though Like shock would of had to totally bus ls for dayyyyysss if they are scum together and I don't,think,I believe that. | ||
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On July 01 2015 07:40 Fidei86 wrote: Damdred and HF. Game over. Just another case of confirmed town being bad here. | ||
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I call out shockey multiple times. Fight against a red check to hunt other scum. | ||
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An explanation that we never play games the exact same way? Or the fact you were scum reading me,that game for playing that way lol. Its sorta frustrating when I tried to explain this phase why we should,hunt outside hf and tried to,get some,conversation going but it only happened when I was gone | ||
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On July 01 2015 08:42 Fidei86 wrote: How many more mislynches does one man have to lead before you all will see that? Idk if you know this but being wrong a lot doesn't equal scum.... being right to much usually does to an extent. | ||
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Also I generally hard bus a lot and town side giving up my partners and really don't deflect off them, I'm a credit whore | ||
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For example a framer flipped and you don't even take a step back really and try to figure out if hf is framed or not, hr could of been. You use a totally incomplete meta read on me in a game where I am 99% sure never looks like any game I've played before due to tl circumstances however. You can be assured that I would of bussed the fuck out of shockey in that situation or just lynched hf if he was town. basically if I'm scum I 1) killed off kel and rsoul who both had super strong town reads on me. 2) Totally did horrrrriiibbblleeee kills at points and left masons alive super late in the game for no reason 3) lost all cred potential falling off my partner I am not scum here and you are biased | ||
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Wrong=/=scum for future reference. hf could be scum I think how some of eod went down makes him a bit townier in one regard the possibility is there but there is another scum and you are wrong on me and your evidence/reasoning is bad. If you use meta to try to figure me out at least rely on your partner who has almost as good a read on me as ritoky. smh | ||
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You want to know why I discount so much of the red check? Because a freaking framer could of been in the game which just flipped hf and GB were fighting the check was pretty telegraphed. secondly even if he isn't framed there are millers. You put way to much weight on people being wrong. I hunt from town all the time its just how I play I think the case on me is really crappy as the only reason I didn't push mig d2 was the fake green check. And me pushing off hf if he's scum is actually town trait meh. | ||
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Uve been afk that's why I am so different, but you don't even bother to go look at my past scum games I have like 12 I think or something. | ||
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I pushed mig. Was afk for personal reasons, its idiotic as scum to deflect off partner in this siyuation statement I made isn't weird scum will never in a million years kill hf if he's town. and no you don't have a meta read on me at all that's the point | ||
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its stupid and so sub obtimal its not even funny. When there is a framer in a game red checks do mean less its just how it is. | ||
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Hiwever its not at all correct for me to hard align myself with anyone even if you use wifom to put doubts into it. Its idiotic and hurts me trying to win the game as scum. most the thread at some point would of wanted to lynch hf most didn't vote him which is strange | ||
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If there scum together and we switch gives hf and shockey a lot of town cred. its a little tin foil but a scenerio I could see happen in a oneg, hf, shockey, mig team. | ||
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its a bit of a distancing technique that could be used, its an interesting thought though and is a high reward play | ||
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fid is 100% confirmed ls was heavily town read by a majority of the game rux was never seriously discussed I was hinted at but never discussed and did a ton of work so what wad the town wagon again outside the three? | ||
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It makes sense for oneg to be scum since the scum team decided not to swap and kill him or to get you guys to flip to him if he's town though risky | ||
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Lets say I'm town just for arguments sake. I get really dumb and paranoid about scum being on shockey and switch to oneg with mafia shockey. If we argue that hf is town then its 2 town on him with one mafia 5-3 currently. If hf and oneg are both town scum 100% switch kill oneg and win the game in that situation. Its a bit debatable that it could of been done however as mh vote switch was really late but others were talking about switching. If hf is scum and shockey is scum then unless me and fid switch its inpossible for scum team to win, if one is scum to its all distancing and wifom. | ||
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4 v 2 The nightkill was really not surprising, however weird in a sense to. It might be an interesting idea to no lynch today and that night kill would give us a lot of information to a degree... but i'm not sure yet. | ||
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On July 02 2015 07:41 ruXxar wrote: How is a nolynch going to help? What do we gain if LS or Nydus dies? Why do you automatically jump to one of them dying instead of yourself? I would think I would die honestly over LS and probably nydus, its really really interesting you didn't think of yourself first | ||
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But what person is confirmed town now? LS isn't confirmed he could of been framed for a green check, oneg and hf have some form of triple bus theory on them. NHM has fallen off the face of the earth, you could of been carrying a kp. So the next nk would give us a lot of information more than likely. | ||
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On July 02 2015 08:11 ruXxar wrote: What you believe and how people perceive you are two completely separate things. And when was the last time someone raised suspicion on LS or NHM? Anyone who has played more than one game with me knows obviously which is why RS was upset with me but still thought I was town. LS was yesterday and NHM was yesterday as well. | ||
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Its just BM at best, at worst its scummy behavior and it gives us another 48-72 hours for discussion with more interesting information from more nk | ||
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Every person in the game has something against them to an extent, I was afk, wasn't on the scum lynch yesterday. LS has been super afk could of been framed green has some really negative aspects to his game Oneg and Shockey could of been bussing one another to a point, really lackluster gameplay up to that point. You could of carried a shot or been saved HF is red checked, but could of been framed or a miller. Could also of been doing an odd triple bus of sorts NHM had decent activity early but hasn't really done to much but has fallen off a cliff. There is something wrong with every person in this game. So where am I wrong | ||
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On July 02 2015 23:10 NydusHerMain wrote: Lol what Damdred? I've been active as fuck for the past couple of cycles if you e been reading at all and if I was sum and you were town, I'd avoid nking not because you're getting scum read (Which you are considerably compared to me and ls) but you've got a filter the size of my boyfriend's butt plug (and he hates anal) ? I think you either ignored or missed the context of my explaining everyone's flaws, ls did as well surprisingly. The context was that the next nk would be the most informative as every person in the game has had or has some major problems that could make them scum. As such you are right that your activity is greater the past cycle than the one before. However you did fall off a cliff at one point, as did I. It was talking about next nk if we could no lynch really wish you would of read it in context instead of getting offended. | ||
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On July 02 2015 23:50 ruXxar wrote: So right now I feel like I'm in a strange place. My preferred order of lynching looking at people in isolation would be : Onegu HF Damdred I feel like damdred has been acting a bit strange lately though. Not sure what's going on with him. Feels like he's a bit emotionally unstable? Calling us "fucking idiots" for thinking he's scum, and now lashing out in anger when I'm just having a regular conversation with him pointing out his flaws. Don't know if he's stressed out or overly defensive. Trying to bring suspicion onto LS and NHM when I frankly don't see why he would have any reason to do so. At least give us some reasons why you'd think they are suspicious instead of just saying "there's something wrong" with them, and not doing any work to back it up. Yes there's a framer in the game, and yes LS could've been framed. But you have been hard town reading him all game and now you want to bring suspicion onto him? And I frankly don't agree about NHM. I feel like his presence has been pretty solid overall the last cycles tbh. Do some work instead of just throwing out names like that. Actually this is a really weird post to me. 1) You make a list post that contains who you think is scummy. That is actually good somewhat however 2) Instead of talking about hf or oneg your top scum reads you decided to talk about scum read 3. 3) None of what you say leads into any form of conclusions or a stance it is just a lot of words that come out to nothing? 4) completely leave out context of our conversation on voting a no lynch to get the information from a nk. I actually kind of think rux could be scum. His post is really strange and at points it reads as straight discrediting and avoiding the context of our conversation to make me look scummy. And the do the work thing, would you tell your scum reads to do work? No you tell town to do wotk lunch then back | ||
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I know you haven't played much to this point but in lylo it is not my responsibility to dig through you filter to figure out your cases. It is my responsibility to dig through filters to figure out if you are sxum. For example if I want to lynch Y today it is my job to remind everyone why Y is acum rather than look busy doing things talking about Z. As such what I state still stands, you say a decent amount in that without saying anything really. For example my little idiots isn't really a big emotional outburst, if you continue playing on these forums you will come to find I'm really really mild. But on another note you keep talking about what town should do today however you don't really show a lot of work yourself just bashing me for most of the day tbh so far Back to lunch | ||
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You are using this logic that if oneg wasn't mafia scum team would of switched over and hammered his ass which implies two town were on oneg. However you have me in your scum team which meabs scum team decided not to pile up on you (if it's me and oneg) but instead both of us defend you and bus team mate shockey and in my case try to get team mate oneg lynched. That doesn't make sense. And once again context is important since I was talking about a no lynch gaining us information. | ||
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But different to, its a hard game atm | ||
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Also refusing to switch to me when the vote was like 5-3-1 fid could of switched to me and things could of happened. So doesn't make sense not going doe the win there either. He did push mig a bit to which is a little non indicative for him. Like it doesn't make sense for someone trying to win the game with a red check,around his neck.. | ||
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D1 HF Pushes a lynch on box. This is alignment null in a void, he then changed his mind when he thinks,he sees a better lynch in gb. This is a plus I think for him and at this point makes me think that it's a bit towny. I don't see much,mafia motivation to be so active and push 2 town wagons. Meta wise I think as scum hf is a bit lazier when there's no cred to gain and it's two town up. This is partially bad meta and is mostly from experiences with him. D2 his switch off gb and into tomato after not,believing gbs claim is still a bit strange to me. And I think it's a pretty big red flag to,an extent. D3 is not alignment indicative as he was voting to save his own life. D5- makes me lean town this day, no idea why scum hf would do this. Is a bit wifom,but goes for 0 cred so unless we have a tripple bus going on which isn't out of,the question it makes me think,he's more town. Today has a been a bit lackluster. My gut to some of,these facts coupled with a framer flip and a few other things make,me want to lean town but he makes me scared as he'll. | ||
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Though ls what happens after hf for you? Who's the scum? | ||
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I feel much worse about rux a bit honestly, every post he makes just feels off to me and like he's trying to discredit a bit to an extent idk I need to think about if but if one of you and oneg aren't scum o kinda think it gas to be rux here | ||
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Now I will consider a switch to ruxor since I know I'm not scum the last one has to be ruxxor to me. It makes the most sense and all his posts read so angry. like it makes me feel a little better lynching you hf that you are still hedging a little and just going with ruxxor while still saying he's suspicious but never really talking about him just concluding that ok scum. | ||
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We won't have enough to switch to rux so it's probably on me to decide. Tux and hf are the team I think, oneg town game is pretty close to this,but so is his suck,game. Hf lack of really evaluating rux is the thing that's really swinging me to stay the course as I've been struggling with this. As hf has said before I was the only person really evaluating his play and there were a few town things and a couple,of scum scenarios. I suggested we switch to tux instead and instead of evaluating the attack was launched at me to,discredit me. I'm pretty secure in this atm | ||
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On July 04 2015 06:13 LightningStrike wrote: If he's town it ends the game too? Also we can shannie Damdred too if you want but we need a total of 4 votes on Damdred. I'd bI'd be in with this honestly Idk I'm town and you will be to blame end game shrug | ||
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I used work as an afk reason while I was gone, totally different from me saying you aren't looking at X when you are clearly not busy | ||
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On July 04 2015 06:26 Holyflare wrote: i have been busy the entire past few cycles and having to defend myself, it's no coincedence i can't look at everything You had two main scum reads going into the day. Tux and oneg. This changed to same red and oneg. You only focused on oneg and,never really explained what happened between point a and b when you would clearly have to look at one of us to,change. | ||
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On July 04 2015 06:49 Holyflare wrote: then you fucked up by still not responding to anything i said I honestly don't even know what I ignored or missed | ||
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On July 04 2015 06:49 Holyflare wrote: like i have plenty of reasons to not switch because i think you're mafia and have reasons and you just say "why don't you switch" repeatedly lol my suspicions of you are also outlined in my giant wall of text Honestly either you are town and just don't want to come to,grips with I've been really busy and missed things. And honestly don't want to work with me. Or your scum, I hope,the later at thisbpoint | ||
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On July 04 2015 06:52 Holyflare wrote: i want to work with you, you're just ignoring me and saying "aha never switching to onegu or off you unless it's this guy you know nothing about!" If you haven't looked at him at all how did you go from. Its probably rux/oneg to its dam and oneg. I'm literally not,ignoring you I'm asking what vBulletin I missed and you just keep,saying I'm,ignoring you | ||
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Oneg is . Oneg, outside meta he will always look like scum. Its just who he is to a point | ||
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On July 04 2015 06:57 LightningStrike wrote: Switch to Damdred guys please. Fucking nhm do it, just do it do it do it. | ||
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On July 04 2015 07:02 LightningStrike wrote: I will take the blame on this lose because HF actually was looking townie in my eyes towards the end. Not really you didn't even go for,the scummiest pets, bit the per so. You were town reading to hammer your other town read | ||
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I just don't get what the point was of voting me there honestly, if hf is scum,they auto win. If I'm scum and oneg isn't scum still wins. I just blah, ok not really upset at you ls, just the game,solved itself with . how People were acting towards each other meh | ||
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On July 04 2015 07:25 LightningStrike wrote: I seeing if I can get banned for how bad I played this game had pm'd the mods concerning thatI felt like Onegu and ritoky was playing against their win conditions before I blue claimed. Why would you do that rit wasn't over the line oneg was himself shrug. So you threw the game to get banned instead of winning? | ||
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Gratz to the scum team they played well for what they had to do | ||
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Xoxoxo | ||
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I'm telling you the truth here, either you can be salty and not have fun over a dumb mistake which a lot have done (mistakes that is). Or you can let it go and have fun next game and do the right thing. Like you were suck reading hf, rux and myself. The only people,who were active were me rux and hf. Obviously if I'm scum I,can't vote myself,anyway and if I'm town they won't,move anyway. You were sure oneg was town, but nhm wasn't here to give you a majority, next time just be patient and not hammer your town read shrug. | ||
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On July 04 2015 09:11 justanothertownie wrote: Damdred is just rightfully blaming you for towns defeat. QFT | ||
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GB could of played that so much better, he had a scum read on mig and a town read on me. I still don't get what the purpose of that play was. I could of really pushed mig home I think and we would of lynched scum and would of possibly cleared yamato and saved ourselves a mislynch, that probably was super frustrating at that point. LS could of played smart at the end and I hope he does from now on. However NHM is just as much to blame as anyone else deciding to vote with Rux who he had Poe'd as mafia basically even if he didn't put those pieces together at that point and knew that one of his potential scum reads was going to vote with him, so its a bit of a strange lylo either way. The game was perfectly winnable up until the last 15 minutes of the day basically, which is partially due to hf playing great. Some of the newer players will point to the activity level of the early game as a determining factor in that it helped disorganize town to a degree. I disagree, the town was disorganized early because of Bugs attacking certain people and getting them to tilt and HF doing some of the same things. This problem was made worse when people like Box (who I think is a good player) got busy irl, I got busy irl with issues and others did as well so it was hard to tell what was afking by town and afking by scum (shockey). Generally I thought the game was pretty well in control when I read it, it wasn't overly spammy even though we reached 260-270 pages that's not unthinkinable in this size game and you will find some true minis that have reached to bigger sizes. Overall I felt it was an enjoyable game that town possibly should of won but scum deserved to win also, so I think it was a good game. | ||
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On July 05 2015 02:29 Holyflare wrote: dude i was so ready to bus mig day 2 if i had to and gb kept stopping me XD that probably would of made you more mafia though | ||
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so I gave a quick post before reading
