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Thanks! Now that I've got my life somewhat sorted out, I figured I could start driving myself crazy with mafia again ^^ | ||
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I've just recently woken up and have caught up with the thread. Kinda have to read some filters to get some actual opinions though. Lemme know if there's anything you'd like me to look at specifically ^^ A few questions: 1) Is geript prone to faking those kind of angry posts as scum? I don't know if I agree with his outcome yet, but the post itself definitely makes me read him as town. 2) Has Yamato rolled scum a lot lately? I don't remember much of his townplay (my memory is sketchy at best -_- ), but if I correctly remember the general tone of his scumplay after he's rolled scum a few games in a row, it felt like his play this game - simply throwing out assorted thoughts without taking a more active part in the game. | ||
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I could lynch geript. I'm having a lot of trouble sorting out my thoughts, probably because of my time crunch. I think most of HF's points in general have merit, though I think he's throwing around the word "lying" a bit too much. I agree with ritoky and sandroba regarding geript's "double dipping" on his 27nb read. Seems strange to both call a read/vote trolling and then turn around and say that you still agree with the read/vote. As thought he's having trouble remembering his own motivations for posting it. I'm not sure what to make of the fact that he seems to be calmly accepting that he's getting lynched. I mean, I kinda expect him to be angrier if he's a town mislynch, though based on what he and others have said, I would also expect him to be kinda angry to be lynched as scum. He seems to just be resigned to be lynched, so I don't really know what to make of it. He's offering his reads, as I'd expect a townie to do, but doesn't seem to be really fighting too hard to avoid a mislynch. I'm mostly trusting in HF, if I'm completely honest, to know what he's talking about. ##Vote geript Not sure if I wish I had more time to think, or simply less to consider XD Time for work, but I should be on break in 3 hours or so. | ||
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On May 24 2015 01:38 rsoultin wrote: -squints at hf- and now we're arguing the same points yet again blah -_- i want to lynch yamato; am i still the only one? Reading what I missed while typing really quick, and I'd probably be fine with a yama lynch as well. It bothers me that he felt the need to explain why he's voting geript even though from what I recall most of his posts are about geript being mafia. It seems defensive. Of course, this still feels flimsy to me, but that should tell you how unsure I really am about my current vote XD | ||
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On May 24 2015 05:05 Damdred wrote: I think it's legit it's based around small things though that are hard to quantify. Like oneg just isn't playing carefree has none of his usual town traits hasn't true to make any plays. Hos only read on 27nb followed thread sentiment to an extent and then basically for no reason he said he didn't have it anymore but continues voting for 27nb anyway. Nb hadn't done anything more than she had previously imo and didn't deserve the flip of you are hard Scum reading someone. Fuba had two really bad posts if,an remember. He super over explained his vote on Geript and doesn't even believe that Geript is Scum but is just a keeping to sheep. His next post h puts Scum on Yamato for over explaining his vote on geript? It's extremely hypocritical to an extent and he's not really Scum hunting being actively involved and jus hopping on a lynch and leaving If it makes you feel any better, I don't really like my posting so far either. I'm also incredibly unsure of my reads. It's almost as though I'm working from a lack of information or something. However, I'm not being at all hypocritical. Given that I have a total of one post that actually says anything, I summarized my thoughts on geript (who if I'm being honest, I really don't want to lynch anymore, but don't really have an alternative). Yamato, on the other hand, has at least a full page of posts, about half of them revolving around geript. I said I found it odd that given how much he's already talked about geript, it's strange that he feels the need to elaborate on why he's going along with HF's wagon. Like, he's been on it for a significant portion of the game. It rubbed me the wrong way, and I mentioned it. Now that I've had more than 20 minutes to think about it, it probably means nothing at all. | ||
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(those not on the list aren't necessarily scummy to me, just really unsure... not that I'm not unsure of the ones on the list either XD) | ||
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On May 24 2015 05:45 fuba wrote: HF, rso, you, kinda VA (those not on the list aren't necessarily scummy to me, just really unsure... not that I'm not unsure of the ones on the list either XD) Oh, and I think I have a town read on prplhz as well. | ||
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On May 24 2015 05:55 Damdred wrote: Fuba who would you lynch today. Rit how isn't he pushing things that are interesting to him forward? His case on me isn't that bad it's built around a meh event but it's applicable I don't know. There's something about geript's response to being the lynch that makes me uncomfortable about actually going through with it. Possibly 27nb? I don't like how within 15 minutes, she'd apparently forgotten whether or not her onegu read went from null->town or from town->null. Though that pay just be different phrasing than I would expect. I've spent nearly all of my time so far trying to come to a conclusion about geript, so my thoughts on most other players are little more than tone reads or "I thought that, they think that, so they're probably town"-reads. | ||
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Gotta get back to work. Might be able to check in around the deadline if I can get to a computer XD | ||
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On May 25 2015 03:35 Holyflare wrote: we just save nb till last if she's mafia and we can tell by the number of blue reveals possibly later anyway or they could just kill her and it clears it up for us nicely and if not we get to keep an unkillable blue no vig should shoot her they should shoot people like onegu etc I guess I can see the point of this, though I really wanted to get it resolved sooner :S | ||
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On May 25 2015 05:44 27ninjabunnies wrote: I mean I'm a high target for vigi shooting. So many people are reading me as scuml, trying to discredit me, I wouldn't be surprised if I got vigi shot So you think that both scum and town are going to shoot you? | ||
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On May 25 2015 05:26 Holyflare wrote: that's what a lot of people do as town to their mafia reads -> that's what a lot of people do to stop being lynch candidates -> confirms it's not bull shit afterwards -> vet claim with silly strategy that a mafia would have had to pre-plan the entire game to do which i don't think she would it's fucking dumb but i wouldn't say it's scummy This is the aspect that most convinces me. | ||
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Bleh... | ||
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On May 25 2015 06:13 fuba wrote: Or she could actually be mafia vigi, trying to hold out for that one more night so she can at least use her power before being lynched... Bleh... But then why would she claim veteran...? Maybe to avoid being roleblocked? This is where my head's been stuck this night phase XD | ||
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On May 25 2015 06:15 rsoultin wrote: if she's mafia vigi she shoots tonight? are you high? talk to me about anything else. literally. anything like you barely had any reads last time you were in thread. have you caught up and do you have a clue yet? Mmm, mostly been thinking about this. | ||
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And yes... if I were mafia vigi and I was close to being lynched D1 I would almost certainly use my shot N1. | ||
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On May 25 2015 06:23 prplhz wrote: then why do you think there's any chance you'll die tonight +1 | ||
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In an effort to contribute more, I'll try to get some legit reads into the thread by tomorrow. I don't work today, so I should have time to get it done. I wouldn't get your hopes up for definite town/scum reads, but at least I'll put some of my thoughts on "paper". I'm up for a nb lynch. It's true that as a vet, it made little sense to claim during the night. The entire situation seems silly as either alignment, but that remains true. The fact that she was supposedly afraid of dying last night despite being sure that mafia wouldn't also attack her would seem to indicate that her fear was feigned. And she still hasn't explained how she flipped from geript/sandroba scum to sandroba scum + geript absolutely town. Despite being asked multiple times. Many of us had this little feeling that geript was actually town, but she seemed sure of it. ##Vote 17ninjabunnies | ||
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On May 25 2015 08:36 Alakaslam wrote: Oh this is the game where 27NB claimed vet isn't it? Yup~ | ||
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On May 25 2015 08:39 Alakaslam wrote: Fuba due This No. Again I see more scummy here. No. Don't do this. Case in point. | ||
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On May 25 2015 08:42 Alakaslam wrote: NO. Just stop and say things when you observe what is good lol fuck off | ||
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On May 25 2015 09:20 Alakaslam wrote: Besides, I don't have to Fuba knows better. He is not a bad player. He was Mufasa once If I know better, does it make more sense for me to say it as scum or as town? | ||
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On May 25 2015 09:35 Alakaslam wrote: As scum! As town you don't have to answer for shit, you do what you damn well please So... because I did as I damn well please and posted what you claim I knew was a scummy post... | ||
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"You've also been through the tough times, tough enough to protect yourself from one KP in a given night if attacked by one of the Salgueiro." Does it really work that way? | ||
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Now I don't know who I'd vote for. I agree that yamato seemed scum, but slam so far is looking townie. Could have just let me keep being shitty, or just call me definite scum, but he told me to step it up. Dunno if that makes sense the way I explained it, but it's enough for me at the moment. ##Unvote | ||
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On May 26 2015 03:46 Fecalfeast wrote: You did more than that. Why do you think slam's play has been towny now? You were prepared to mute him earlier, had you the power. I was really, really angry for reasons that I'm thinking of a way to explain, but would probably take a team of psychologists years to determine. In any case, I gave it some time, saw where he was coming from, and decided that he was justified. I feel like he could have handled the situation differently as scum, in a way that would more surely get me lynched. Instead he just said to play like myself and stop making excuses. Makes me see him as townie. | ||
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On May 24 2015 06:31 Damdred wrote: We have 30 minutes to decide and I would much rather not lynch Geript here. However we need rs and everyone to move together or go onto nb. Kinda Bothers me hf isn't here pushing Looking through Damdred's filter, it's strange that in the same post he says he doesn't want to lynch geript, he also expresses irritation that hf isn't there pushing for the lynch. Why should HF have been there pushing? At the time, geript has 5 votes to everyone else's 2. I'm trying to figure out if it's scummy or just odd. Like, why would that be a concern for a townie? It looks like rsoultin was also bothered by HF's apparent absence, so maybe I just don't see what's suspicious about someone not continuing to push for a lynch that to all appearances is definitely going to happen. Could someone explain? | ||
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On May 26 2015 04:52 rsoultin wrote: i just love being ignored -_- be back later if i'm not here when bunnies returns, someone get her to actually explain her thought process thank you >< Sorry, decided to take a shower XD Reading your response now~ | ||
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On May 26 2015 08:21 rsoultin wrote: eh, fuck it do what y'all want ^^ nothing i can do about it anyway feel free to continue ignoring me, bunnies lol >< i don't understand what damdy is doing, but frankly it makes no sense unless he's scum protecting a scum mate and i don't know who that scum mate would even be if it's not bunnies, so if y'all are convinced that bunnies is town for her claim, this shift to him is stupid fuba continues just floating around sheeping whatever the rest of the thread is doing and no one cares? If by "sheeping whatever the rest of the thread is doing" you mean "having similar reactions to given information around the same time as the rest of the thread", then you're right. I'm not sure I want to vote for Damdred. His recent posts confuse me more than anything. Seems like he's kinda given up. Scummiest thing I see from his filter is promising more activity then not coming through. I have trouble seeing that as a definite scum read because I've been busy/out-of-it before and it's affected my game. The main difference between us in that respect is that he's promised more. I want to see if he comes back with anything this time before voting him. I actually want to hear more from alakaslam regarding VA. From what I can tell yamato's vote on him was pretty much pure policy. Is there anything else you have to add, slam? | ||
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On May 26 2015 09:55 rsoultin wrote: if i meant that i'd say it ^^ that damdred read is mine reworded ^^ just as the yamato read was. you keep promising coming back with something and instead just echo whatever is being said in the thread at the time If that's true, looks like we have similar reads. Must both be scum. | ||
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On May 26 2015 10:37 Damdred wrote: [/spoiler]I think that Fuba is the most likely scum in the game at this point. There are several things that bring me to this. The first thing that caught my attention is one of the first posts in the game that he makes. + Show Spoiler + On May 23 2015 02:13 fuba wrote: Good morning~ I've just recently woken up and have caught up with the thread. Kinda have to read some filters to get some actual opinions though. Lemme know if there's anything you'd like me to look at specifically ^^ A few questions: 1) Is geript prone to faking those kind of angry posts as scum? I don't know if I agree with his outcome yet, but the post itself definitely makes me read him as town. 2) Has Yamato rolled scum a lot lately? I don't remember much of his townplay (my memory is sketchy at best -_- ), but if I correctly remember the general tone of his scumplay after he's rolled scum a few games in a row, it felt like his play this game - simply throwing out assorted thoughts without taking a more active part in the game. What is the point of this post and what do you gain from it exactly? To me this post looks a lot like someone who is trying to look like they are doing something without actually drawing any conclusions for the most part from it. For example he has a town read(?) on geript in this post from him getting angry but he phrases it in such a way that it does not seem to me at least that he believes in what he is saying at all. his questions about yamato are also a bit odd to me? Whats the point of this question? There is none once again it just looks like someone trying to fit in while doing nothing. This post has no follow up also in his filter, he gives the excuse tha the is busy at a birthday party at the time which is probably true no reason to think hes lying about that. However there is no mention of the information or what the questions mean at all or why he would even ask them and this leads to his next post. [spoiler[ What has HF done exactly to draw so much trust that he should sheep him on someone that at last mention he was town reading him for? A lot of things happened in the thread but this post just reads (still) extremely wishy washy with a lot of room to maneuver his way while still looking good and assigning hf the blame for the mislynch that he thinks is coming. Moving on an overview of his filter shows that he really doesn't have any scum reads currently. He had a scum lean on yamato for over explaining his vote on geript, but he thought about it and says he doesn't have it anymore. His questions lead no where with almost no follow up. hes merely existing within the thread without actually having much of an impact, he promises reads without pulling through. tldr: I think the lack of follow up, the lack of actual scum hunting. The hedging around lynch and pushing most of the responsibility off on hf and the lack of follow up on giving reads himself makes fuba scum. Don't really even know how to respond to all of this, and apparently he's no longer here to discuss it with me. The best I can do is explain my own method of scumhunting, and that never goes well. I'll say that I do a lot of thinking, and not everything I think ends up going in the thread. | ||
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On May 26 2015 11:51 ritoky wrote: [/spoiler]use your unique method to locate me a scum. at least 1 or 2 paragraphs on the top scum in the game. GO! It's not so much unique, as it is limited. I narrow someone's alignment down to a single incident that I feel determines whether they're town or scum. Like with 27nb, I tried to narrow it down to the vet claim (and I feel that's worked out pretty well). For geript I first tried his angry post, then it was his response to being the top lynch (which would have turned out well for geript if I had been here at deadline, but not so great for 27nb). For Slam it was the little "argument" we had. As such, it's not really something I can just "do". I'll give it another hour of looking tonight, though. | ||
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On May 26 2015 12:37 ritoky wrote: [/spoiler]so you're saying that regardless of everything else. the fact that bunnies knew information from the OP that multiple other players in the game didn't know makes her lock clear as Vet/town? I mean, a little bit. There's more to it, though. It was her fear of death by vigi that I found most convincing of her being scum. When it came clear that she was right, and a vigi would have killed her if they shot, that reason went away. But it goes beyond that. Not only would it have been an incredibly elaborate ploy if she was fakeclaiming, I feel like she would have explained the vet difference earlier. It would have been an integral part of her explanation. Ultimately, either she was lying pretty much 100% of the game, or she was telling the truth. I feel like she's telling the truth. | ||
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Not enough to townread him by comparison, but I think it's a mistake to scumread him because they're similar, because I don't think they are. | ||
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On May 26 2015 13:20 rsoultin wrote: okay, the onegu read is controversial i guess since i think i'm the only one who thinks he could be town here :/ Nah, I think he could be town. | ||
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On May 26 2015 13:26 rsoultin wrote: xP maybe it was unclear, but i just acknowledged that Yeah, I realized that after I posted XD I'm considering Damdred still. I'll admit that his case can make me look like scum, for sure. But I feel like so many of his points could have been used on him, as well. Seems odd to call someone scummy for something you yourself are doing. | ||
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On May 26 2015 13:31 rsoultin wrote: could've sworn you'd just said you thought he could be town -_- I said onegu might be town. Don't recall saying that about Damdred though. | ||
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Oh, that. I wanted to see what he said. I didn't particularly like what he said. Therefore thinking scum. | ||
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On May 26 2015 13:39 rsoultin wrote: eh i don't really think he/oats is scum and especially not for that post in particular -_- but i'll look back through it to see if it's really as hypocritical as you say any other scumreads or is that it? At the moment, he's all I'd vote for. The rest are either town reads, people who I haven't re-examined my earlier town reads on but want to, and people I'm pretty much null on. | ||
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On May 26 2015 13:55 Oatsmaster wrote: seriously wtf is this shit. Fuba has no scumreads and he doesnt give a damn. he doesnt want to engage with me and randomly throws out town reads for no reason. Hes scum. Both Oats and Damdred saying I'm refusing to engage with them when they've made no attempt to engage with me. (Though I've played enough with Oats to know that once he's at this point, there's no reasoning with him). | ||
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On May 26 2015 15:33 Oatsmaster wrote: DIE SCUM. . but seriously though, posting about you isnt enough to get you to respond? You dont even say anything like "your read is shit, get good". No, it isn't enough. I feel like you've played with me enough to know that this could easily be me being town. And that "your read is shit, get good" isn't something I'd say. And if people are actually townreading you, and not Damdred, I can't imagine why. All you've done is say "fuba is scum for reasons others have already pointed out, and sandro is town for posting". Which is, btw, essentially what you've accused me of doing (one scum read and throwing out town reads for no reason). Catching a bus. Will be on my phone. | ||
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On May 26 2015 23:44 fuba wrote: I dislike sandroba's lust post. He says scum are either not playing or are really good, and clearly defaults to not playing. He throws in that "or I'm terrible", which is inconsistent with his chat with oats regarding why he's still alive. He also doesn't actually place a vote on any of us. Also, I know I'm town, and I at least lean town on the other two. This post feels almost as wishy-washy as I imagine I look most of the time. Got to work an hour early so I could let everyone know when I'd be back during my break, but my boss has asked me to start now and leave an hour earlier. Should be back about two hours before deadline, if my break remains the same. And, because my thoughts haven't really changed since last night: ##Vote Oatsmaster | ||
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I'm jailer. Jailed ritoky N1. Wasn't sure of my HF town read after N1, he was confusing me. And tbh I hate it when people say "doc better save me tonight". And if HF was town I was expecting scum to try to dodge the medic (which in retrospect was stupid). I went with someone who I felt participated a lot but I didn't have a particularly strong read on either way. Felt I could block a shot if he's town, and stop a shot if he's scum. | ||
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On May 27 2015 05:32 sandroba wrote: The main thing about damdred slot is the way host replaced him and reset the vote count. I don't think it would be allowed for scum to be replaced in a spot like that. @fuba do you think it's plausible town has a vet + a jailer? Clearly I do, since I townread 27nb while knowing my own role -_- | ||
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On May 27 2015 05:34 fuba wrote: Clearly I do, since I townread 27nb while knowing my own role -_- Though it would probably make more sense with a vigi on the scum team, now that I think about it. Maybe I did block a shot. *shrugs* | ||
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I was until rit and rso made it clear that they apparently saw some kind of soft claim from someone. | ||
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On May 27 2015 05:40 rsoultin wrote: :/ not from you, though Yeah, I know. I didn't intend to need to claim, but the game didn't really go to my favor in that regard XD | ||
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Since it looks like we're absolutely not lynching Damdred, and I need to get back to work in 5 minutes, I'm doing what I need to to live. ##Unvote ##Vote ritoky | ||
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