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Tictock
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Tictock
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I feel bad for scott, I had gathered he's roled scum most of his newbie games and hasn't had a good go of it. Better luck next time Scott! I'm going to take a nap as a reward for us lynching scum D1, and the freaking RB no less. | ||
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Tictock
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On May 24 2015 07:14 sicklucker wrote: If your a town veg and dont know who to shoot you can just hardclaim now and discuss it without a roleblocker. Confirmed not veg dont shoot me mafia. Out for the night in a few For the loveof god do not listen to SL. There is 0 reason for any roles to claim right now. Everyone should be discussing potential vig shots, cop checks, etc but this does not require a claim. | ||
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Tictock
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Tictock
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Also everything SL is saying here is misinformation. There are no guaranteed roles, if there is a vig there is no guarantee that there is a doc to save him. For all Town knows about the setup we could have any combination of Doc, Cop, Vig, Veterns, Masons, and w/e other roles I'm forgetting about. Claiming during night phase is like the stupidest thing a role could do, it just paints a target on their face for the mafia NK. Something SL seems to want to have happen here, though I'm sure he has some bull "I didn't see the setup" or "in the other 100 games I play...". I don't even care if you don't agree with me just think about it for yourself. I just don't want to see a newbie with a blue role get suckered in by this play. | ||
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Tictock
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Vig has only one shot so it should be a good one. With scum RB gone Vig can for sure get the shot off. I'm still not seeing what possible benefit comes from them claiming though. Besides this is all so reliant on the notion that there IS a vig this game. | ||
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Tictock
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On May 24 2015 11:02 27ninjabunnies wrote: Good cop checks/vig shots Dis BF Sulf(rather cop check) And Breshke (Cop check) What do we think of BM as a vig shot? BF? Wth you were reading him town EoD. Why are you suddenly suspecting him again? I'm having the hardest time following your thinking the past ~30 hours. Also regarding SL's notion. I was overreacting at the time, but literally moments after the flip suggesting a Blue claim was so WTF I had to jump on it. Also I don't like the tone of it, but I suppose it's what to expect from SL. On May 24 2015 07:14 sicklucker wrote: If your a town veg and dont know who to shoot you can just hardclaim now and discuss it without a roleblocker. Confirmed not veg dont shoot me mafia. Out for the night in a few Yea the tone of , "Vig claim so we can figure out your shot and you'll die for town, tnx bye" Is pretty bad. Still credit where credit is due, it's not a bad suggestion. Vig only has one shot so their role is fulfilled just by using it, and since RB is gone they can for sure use it. Vig sacrificing themselves to ensure no other blue roles get picked off tonight is also a decent plan of action. Roles like Doc and Cop are very valuable to keep alive, whereas Vig and Vet are more for gathering information for town. Just continuing my line of though regarding roles, Masons should almost never claim asfaik as they are VT with slightly more info than normal VT. No idea how to regard a potential SK. If we have 2 kills tonight and no Vig claim tonight/D2 then SK is real possibility... at the same time I could see that opening a window for Scum to claim Vig in that case and SK is happy with that since it keeps their role hidden from town... Ok no more on that since I'm pretty sure I'm almost lost in WIFOM. | ||
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Tictock
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Dude you are more than happy to remind us you have so much more experience than the rest of us and play 100s of games. Can you please keep in mind you signed up for a NEWBIE game here? Like just take the extra second to walk us through your thoughts. I get that you have this quick to the point style and you have lots of ideas about theory/mechanical plays but you need to get it through your head we cant see what your thinking so easily being that most people here are new. | ||
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Tictock
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I just realized the possibility of SK complicates this idea quite a lot doesn't it? Anyone who has more experience with games with a 3rd party especially an SK type party want to weigh in on that? | ||
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Tictock
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Idk I'll revist this later on but for now I'd personally use a shot on: BM SL 27nb Cop checks against these people would be nice: 27nb BF plots Dis BS Dis and BS I'm still reading town, but there is definitely confusion about them from several people. | ||
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Tictock
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On May 24 2015 14:06 Bill Murray wrote: wow scott just kinda made me look good/townie just iso'ed him would mafia be "unsure of an early vote" from other mafia? he is also dismissive of it like he actually wants to push me and is at the same time admitting im town with the "he unvoted tho" so honestly this looks good on me he then goes on to talk about other facets of the game which is typical scum behavior IIoA Tries to push me more Says im on top of his lynch list obviously (to me/what i know) im not mafia and this should make any of you lean town on me BM I don't even... You got some balls coming back into the thread after more than a day of silence, and try to use scum posts to defend yourself as town... | ||
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Tictock
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On May 24 2015 14:46 Sulfurus wrote: I predict that if cop receives a town check on SL people will accuse him of being GF/SK and lynch him anyway, so cop should not check him. A vigi shot on him is fine since the only way town doesn't kill him is if he claims a role. This is a fantastic post... | ||
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Tictock
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So I'm more sold on your idea for Vig. Still think the Claim is not necessary but I get what your point was. However SL, given the potential of a SK, do you still make the same play? Especially given this game was open setup (I believe that's the term where no detail about role assignments, such as doc/vig setup are given) and we aren't even sure there IS a vig. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On May 24 2015 15:34 sicklucker wrote: yes its going to always be 3 mafia in 13 player format but if theirs a sk then 2? im not getting many mafia reads so thats possible. Putting this into my possible drunken SL slips folder. | ||
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Tictock
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Off to play games, bbl. | ||
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Tictock
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On May 24 2015 16:26 sicklucker wrote: how mad is banks tho No idea if this is mispost or just typo. SL can I take you ignoring my questions that you still feel your suggestion with Vig is the best move tonight, even factoring in potential SK complications? Or are you just failing to read atm? | ||
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Tictock
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Like I don't even want to make a read here, I just want more posts like that. | ||
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Tictock
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SL maybe wait to post till your not drunk man... | ||
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Tictock
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Sorry, just too funny. | ||
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Tictock
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SL is easily the top target to shoot tonight. If he doesn't die tonight he is easily the most lynchable person going into D2. Theres tons of cases made against him already so I'll just reiterate what I see as the scummiest stuff about him. This game SL has been all over the place with his scum "reads" and has never really stuck with any of them. He's made a ton of posts suggesting people he thinks could be scum but never does anything on his own. I don't know SL that well, but IMO Town!SL makes pretty quick and easy reads and will stick with them. + Show Spoiler + Last point about SL, in fact I'd like to make this point 8 on Rel's list. He posts this, telling a potential Vig to claim so we can discuss his shot. On May 24 2015 07:14 sicklucker wrote: If your a town veg and dont know who to shoot you can just hardclaim now and discuss it without a roleblocker. Confirmed not veg dont shoot me mafia. Out for the night in a few Then never makes any suggestions about who to shoot. Between that and this post: On May 24 2015 15:34 sicklucker wrote: yes its going to always be 3 mafia in 13 player format but if theirs a sk then 2? im not getting many mafia reads so thats possible. SL is pretty much for sure scum based on all this. I don't own a hat, but I will go out and buy one to eat if he flips green. So, to me the real discussion now is... who Dies after SL? | ||
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