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plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
June 01 2015 20:57 GMT
#2321
I can't tell you. I'm not in a position to do so, I think it hurts town more. Pretend I was not there you guys have to figure it out. If I post what I think, mafia will probably use it to adapt their play.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
June 01 2015 21:27 GMT
#2330
On June 02 2015 06:20 27ninjabunnies wrote:

##Unvote:
## Vote: Sickluker


One day ill actually remember to bold so i dont look dumb.


Why do you vote for SL if both boxerfred and SL are going afk, when before you voted for boxerfred?
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
June 01 2015 21:39 GMT
#2335
On June 02 2015 03:59 KelsierSC wrote:
~ Vote Count ~

boxerfred (3) : sicklucker, disformation, 27ninjabunnies
27ninjabunnies (2) : boxerfred, Barakos
Barakos (1) : Tictock
disformation (0) : Barakos (X), boxerfred (X)
plotspot (0) : Tictock (X)

Not voting (1) : plotspot

Currently, boxerfred is set to be lynched!
The day phase will end at Monday, Jun 01 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), about 3 hours from this post.
remain as you are reading this.

Remember, voting is mandatory! Place your votes in this thread.

If you see any vote out of place, kill yourself.


This vote count is pretty interesting:
if boxerfred is mafia, Barakos is his partner. Both trying to kill bunnies, because she has been vulnerable from Day3.
if boxerfred is town, 2 of dis, SL and bunnies are mafia.

Dis has always voted boxerfred. Nothing new. So I please ask bunnies and SL to go back on voting boxerfred if you're really town, otherwise I have to think you both try to scur away from being responsible for boxerfred's death if he flips town.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
June 01 2015 21:47 GMT
#2349
that seals it for me, if ninja bunnies is town than Boxerfred and Barakos are scum.
if she is Scum, well then.

##VOTE: 27ninjabunnies

all hopping away from the boxerfred train are extremely suspicious, if all of you were town.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
June 01 2015 21:56 GMT
#2363
On June 02 2015 06:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Town deserves to lose after this day.

Like how in any way have i been mafia?!

IN ANY WAY!

What was the fucking point of having a cop if you are going to vote the cop's green?!


why you panic? if you are town and are myslynched, boxerfred and barakos are scum. Town wins. Calm down it's sure win-win.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
June 01 2015 22:00 GMT
#2374
doesn't matter, if only one mafia left I can confirm other townies with my block.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
June 01 2015 22:33 GMT
#2388
whoo we have luck, but it was really strange how they scurred away from boxer, just wtf, if you are town you just stay there because you're sure you're town and can save your own skin even if you didn't know whether boxer is town or not...
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
June 01 2015 22:35 GMT
#2390
YES I fuckin' hammered it with my vote.^^ I'm more relieved than anything else though... could have gone wrong.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
June 01 2015 22:52 GMT
#2398
Also what's with you guvys inventing shit about playing DOTA and HEROES and then still be here?
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
June 01 2015 23:42 GMT
#2406
On June 02 2015 07:37 Barakos wrote:
Also plots finally and undeniably confirmed town rb, like some cool dude named barakos told you from the start.


You know, there was a time when I thought you were scum. Because if you are town and was REALLY interested in saving my skin, you just say you lied (although you really were blocked) just so people lynch you and then see early that I'm Town RB. If you have done that, I'd read you 100% town immediately, because if I am Town RB I'd think "why the guy lied? I RBed him 100%). Mafia and Town might be able to perform lvl 1 WIFOM, but this lvl 2 WIFOM I don't think any scum would try, it's way too risky for mafia, as mafia you'd have to rely on me explaining this logic to town and they'd have to understand it to save your skin, while they are confused as hell as to what is what. More likely town will just ignore me and go for lynching you anyway. But if you survived with this ploy as mafia, you're even more established as a town because you're putting on a great risk when you're not only thinking 50% I save plot, 50% I save myself, but 100% I save plots for longterm town benefit.

So have you considered this option and still went for the 50-50 version? I guess there are some benefits to it, especially if we can just play the normal way of lynching scum, then just forfeit your life for a confirm, which could be done in other ways, like today.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
June 01 2015 23:45 GMT
#2407
EBWOP... normal way of lynching scum, THAN just forfeit your life for a confirm, which could be done in other ways, like today.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
June 02 2015 00:12 GMT
#2408
Guys I think it doesn't matter anymore.

1. I RB dis, if he is mafia. No kills tonight. If he was town, I die. Dis, Barakos and Tictock just lynch SL or boxerfred. Mislynch on D5? One of you three will get killed on N5. Day 6 you lynch the other guy. Town wins.

2. I RB dis, dis is town. No NK happening, because Mafia holds their shot to mislynch dis or dis holds his own shot to WIFOM me? No problem, we just lynch Dis anyway on Day 5. N5 I RB Boxerfred or SL. Depending on what happens you apply 1 or 2 or 3 to the problem. Town wins.

3. I RB dis, they kill him. We lynch SL or boxerfred D5. Mislynch? I RB the other guy. We lynch the other guy on D6. Town wins.

Anything I overlooked? Please point it out to me, it might be crucial.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
June 02 2015 01:13 GMT
#2411
Maybe you guys haven't understood what I mean yet.
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plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
June 02 2015 11:00 GMT
#2437
On June 02 2015 19:53 Tictock wrote:
@ Bara

I'm trying to understand how to use that site.

If I'm reading it right, if our game got rolled into having 2 RBs, either 2 for Mafia or 1 for each side, then that means one of those RB's has to be weak right?

It also seems to suggest that a single mason setup is considered the same as an Innocent Child role. That would suggest Bre has to have a partner mason.

So following what we know, there are 2 RBs this game, a GF, a Cop, and 2 Masons.

That would mean that the likely setup for Scum is (according to that link)
T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)

Am I using that right?


You're on the right track TT. There are no setups with 2 Mafia RB.
But what we know you are Masons with Breshke, and there was a Cop. So the setup is rolled:

CC = 1 Cop
MM = 2 Masons
B = RB
TT = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather

so it is totally possible for 1 Cop, 2 Masons, 1 RB and Goon, Mafia RB and 1 GF.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
June 02 2015 11:16 GMT
#2446
I have no idea about this one shot cop or one shot RB thingy, because we don't even have that here. But if CCMMBTT is considered a fair option, than it's exactly what we have so far.

On June 02 2015 20:05 Tictock wrote:
No I stopped thinking about SK seriously when you guys pointed out that it doesn't make sense that SK would hold his/her KP.

Thanks for the info though. That helps me out a bit not feeling so lost with setup stuff.

@plots
Isn't there 2 B's though?

So a single T setup.


No, the B thing is just for Town RB. Mafia setup (+SK) entirely depends on the number of Ts.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
June 02 2015 17:09 GMT
#2452
I'm going to block BF tonight then, since Barakos and Tictock both read him scum, I can clear him if he is not. If anything goes wrong just refer to my flow chart and replace Dis with BF.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
June 02 2015 21:58 GMT
#2494
Surprise! I told the host to randomize between you three, because it doesn't matter. I have no clue who’s it going to be. HAHAHAHA. The one who’d been RBed should just say it, he can only be CCed by the mafia. The third is town obviously.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
June 02 2015 22:09 GMT
#2502
Guys, that was fun, you can do it. GG.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
June 03 2015 11:39 GMT
#2607
wow, I wake up to find the game ends? WTF? LOL I wanted to watch how Tictock tunnels on someone else. XD
As soon as I saw I'm dead, I immediately knew this was gonna be interesting between SL and BF. BF should have not CC but push for a lynch between him and dis. With dis dieing he could have hold hit shot on N5 and then mylo it, to maybe push a lynch on SL. But yeah too dangerous, dis is basically town the whole game, SL was believed to be town by both Barakos and Tictock.
I was also interested in seeing what SL would do against the odds. Of course you don't trust me, I was very random in my choices, time and time again I didn't block the person I specified. You have to trust your instincts. Of course I didn't randomize anything, nor via the host nor via anything.
The thing was if I announced blocking SL, BF the way he is could really just kill him, and till the end Tictock still didn't believe me to be Town RB. I didn't want to deal with this any longer on D5, but invented shit about randomizing so mafia would kill me 100%. I trusted we still have Barakos left, my lifeline the whole game, to carry it out to the end. The BF CCed was our victory 100%. I also said in my very last sentence: guy who is blocked should announce, then he gets CC by mafia and the third is town. If BF was really blocked he would have never waited so long, only as mafia you're not sure whether I blocked Dis or SL and then come out and CC.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
June 03 2015 11:54 GMT
#2610
On June 03 2015 20:42 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 20:39 plotspot wrote:
wow, I wake up to find the game ends? WTF? LOL I wanted to watch how Tictock tunnels on someone else. XD
As soon as I saw I'm dead, I immediately knew this was gonna be interesting between SL and BF. BF should have not CC but push for a lynch between him and dis. With dis dieing he could have hold hit shot on N5 and then mylo it, to maybe push a lynch on SL. But yeah too dangerous, dis is basically town the whole game, SL was believed to be town by both Barakos and Tictock.
I was also interested in seeing what SL would do against the odds. Of course you don't trust me, I was very random in my choices, time and time again I didn't block the person I specified. You have to trust your instincts. Of course I didn't randomize anything, nor via the host nor via anything.
The thing was if I announced blocking SL, BF the way he is could really just kill him, and till the end Tictock still didn't believe me to be Town RB. I didn't want to deal with this any longer on D5, but invented shit about randomizing so mafia would kill me 100%. I trusted we still have Barakos left, my lifeline the whole game, to carry it out to the end. The BF CCed was our victory 100%. I also said in my very last sentence: guy who is blocked should announce, then he gets CC by mafia and the third is town. If BF was really blocked he would have never waited so long, only as mafia you're not sure whether I blocked Dis or SL and then come out and CC.


How does BF push the lynch onto SL if SL claims blocked the night someone dies? Would that not mean he can't be mafia?


It's a bit WIFOM but: just imagine BF being town and SL being mafia here. BF because he is town he just knows that Dis or SL are mafia, it doesn't matter who dies. After dis dies. He could always come out of the shadows and say he was RB. Like you still have the situation of whether you believe SL or BF, dis dieing doesn't change the situation. Then maybe maybe it could be possible.
You either choose a way for town to win 100%, or with some extreme risk can still win it if you push the kill on Dis first. Sure people will come out and say why'd you reveal yourself now, then it's up to your reasoning. But as I said extremely risky stuff.
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