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plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 14 2015 20:43 GMT
#25
wow, Touhou in my mafia?^^

/in
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 19 2015 13:22 GMT
#80
##WatchWarmly
XD
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 22 2015 02:49 GMT
#222
oh lawl game has started, but I have to go to sleep now, see you tomorrow
*celebrate good times come on*
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 22 2015 13:02 GMT
#317
oh noes so much to read, i hope the page length has mercy on me, i try to see what I can come up with the next couple hours
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 22 2015 13:17 GMT
#318
btw cakepie, did you make up the story by yourself, that's some tremendous effort, really well done
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 22 2015 13:24 GMT
#323
On May 22 2015 22:20 Rels wrote:
So plotspot just posted another excuse to not do much. I don't have any reads on him, due to him not posting anything, but I would agree lynching him if he doesn't step up.

List of people I would agree to lynch atm, in order:
BM
plotspot
scott
SL
27nb
batsnacks

hahahaha, oh god, lol what excuse? I'm reading the thread right now
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 22 2015 13:26 GMT
#324
On May 22 2015 07:36 batsnacks wrote:
above is THE JOYOUS, LAKE
below is KEEPING STILL, MOUNTAIN

Influence. Success.


When a weak element is above (the lake) and a strong element is below (the mountain), their powers attract each other so that they unite. This brings about success, for all success depends on the effect of mutual attraction

Perseverance furthers.

By keeping still within while experiencing joy without, one can prevent the joy from going to excess and hold it within proper bounds. This is the meaning of, "Perseverance furthers."

To take a maiden to wife brings good fortune

Heaven and earth attract each other and thus all creatures come into being. From the attractions they exert we can learn the nature of all beings in heaven and on earth.

A lake on the mountain:
The image of influence.
Thus the superior man encourages people to approach him
By his readiness to receive them.


A mountain with a lake on its summit is stimulated by the moisture from the lake. It has this advantage because its summit does not jut out as a peak but is sunken. The image counsels that the mind should be kept humble and free, so that it may remain receptive to good advice. People soon give up counseling a man who thinks that he knows everything better than anyone else.

The influence shows itself in the calves of the legs.
Misfortune.
Tarrying brings good fortune.


In movement, the calf of the leg follows the foot; by itself it can neither go forward nor stand still. Since the movement is not self-governed, it bodes ill. One should wait quietly until one is impelled to action by a real influence. Then one remains uninjured.

wth is this thing? can you elaborate batsnacks?
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 22 2015 13:39 GMT
#330
On May 22 2015 08:36 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 07:45 Breshke wrote:
On May 22 2015 07:24 sicklucker wrote:
Im giving disinfo my classic cheap town read.

Reasons hes in the thread asap and not basking in the wonders of seeing a scum qt for the first time.


he would have had 24 to get over the wonders of a scum qt though.

Also Hi


ahhhh maybe your right. I dumbtelled!


sh*t, I won't get this conversation unless some friendly soul explains to me what "scum qt" means in this context or in general. qt as in cutie, right? but "scum qt"? also "wonders of scum qt"? wat?
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 22 2015 13:44 GMT
#334
wait, f*ck, scum qt is the coaching thread right? sorry I still have to get used to it being called "quick topic".
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 22 2015 14:03 GMT
#346
On May 22 2015 10:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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On May 22 2015 07:31 Bill Murray wrote:
##vote:27ninjabunnies the problem is it's barely too much ninja if it were 26 bunnies you'd be cool


Are we going to mislynch me again on day 1 BM?

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On May 22 2015 08:08 Breshke wrote:
Oh yeah and SL is mafia

##Vote Sicklucker


Glad we can agree on something. Though I am curious, why do you think he is mafia?
I saw something about dumbtelling, but I am unsure exactly what the dumbtell was on.

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On May 22 2015 08:38 sicklucker wrote:
Breske realizes scum qt was given out 24 hours ago. Would he be this blatantly obv as scum? bunnies are you the veg because you might need to shoot him again


I will neither confirm nor deny I am a role. I'll leave that up for mafia to decide.
However, I could possibly be down for a breshke lynch if we don't lynch you today.

I see a bus in the midst.


Also, I'm back. Work sucked ass. Worked a double today, only made 45$ the entire day. Server life man.

I expected more posting than this, and am highly disappointed.

Everyone who is considered a newbie, answer this: What is the most important thing you think has happened in the game so far?


(p10,last post) concerning last question: I think a lot of smoke bombs have been thrown out. Mafia most likely has already poked in to test the waters. Some 5-corner logics about knowing or not knowing whether "scum quick topic" has been opened prior the 24 h of silent prelude.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 22 2015 14:20 GMT
#354
On May 22 2015 12:26 Tictock wrote:
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On May 22 2015 12:20 Bill Murray wrote:
##vote: plotspot.

I don't like when people try to slip into the night phase for free off excuses . There are like no posts in this slow game he could easily have caught up. Policy lynch here is better than anything we have to go on.


Something I can totally agree on.

I'm close to heading to bed. I'm going to do some rereading while considering some of the points made here but unless I find something better to go on I'll join this vote for now.


Breshke got it right though. I was playing some video game for too long and it was already 4:49, so I decided I just post some sort of notice of action/activity. Is it better than not post something at all? It depends on the people obviously, reading up to here (p13/first post) you and BM thought it suspicious. If I didn't do anything, then other people would find it suspicious for other reasons.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 22 2015 15:23 GMT
#360
@Tictock
no biggie voting for me, i consider it a success if I make it out alive in D1, there must be something about my posting style that rubs people off or makes me suspicious, I'm working on it. But SL and Breshke were dead right on their interpretation of my first post... Last game I played there was this guy called Bourneq who also interpret so much in every little thing I did, but he ended up interpreting it wrong, so what's the meaning? How do I have faith in people, although they are active like you are and investigating, but keep reading certain things wrong? Even if you're town, I may not be liable to trust your scum readings... Last games there I played there was this guy called Trfel, he was town, he was also very active and willing, but he ended up confusing the hell out of everyone by tunneling and sorts, so mafia had an easy game. For me this showed that activity isn't the key (sometimes it's even detrimental to town), but the ability of people to read correctly.

Does anyone want to ask me something?
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 22 2015 15:43 GMT
#364
On May 23 2015 00:15 disformation wrote:
Okay finished with work. Will be on my way home soon. Should back in around 1h.
First glance at the interaction between ticktoc and BM I got the feeling that BM was just trolling around trying to provoke a reaction from ticktoc, which he got. Otherwise a bit spamy, but I can see towny posts here and there. Will read more carefully when I am back at home. But I still want to see some more action from him today.

@plotspot: You stated that you think that mafia is/was already active in the thread trying to test the waters. Who would you pick out as Mafia?

@Sulfurus: Did your reads on Breshke change? Who would be your #2 lynch after Breshke, if he is still your top scum?


"@plotspot: You stated that you think that mafia is/was already active in the thread trying to test the waters. Who would you pick out as Mafia?"

To be honest I'm not quite sure.
About Breshke: Initially I thought Breshke was scummy for his quick jumping on SL. But then I figured it was just his way of applying pressure on him to see his (SL's) true color. Breshke appears very townish. Breshke is like the NB VII game I played with him, very collected and professional. Though I have to point out, it didn't help us in the end since town still lost, when he couldn't figured out the real cuprits.

About BM: he is always borderline provocative and scummy. But I think he is intelligent and a keen observer.

These are the two that have given me some scum vibe so far. Last game (NV VIII) I was replaced due to illness. This was a game where I observed that scums are usually REACTIONARY and CAREFUL of some sorts. After having a first impression of the thread by having read it all, I will filter-read everyone now in order to find patterns of reactionary and careful behaviour.
Yeah expect something in less than to 6 hours, I'm actually still at work and totally underestmiated to time it took for all this again. I'm lucky that my work load is rather flexible, but still, it's already out of plan here.

plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 23 2015 01:24 GMT
#463
Man, I don’t know how you guys play it. It’s so time consuming, maybe I’m just doing it wrong. But here is what I worked out the last 5 hours. I will post thing “graphics” first and then explain a couple of things.
This concerns the first 6:43 hours into the game.
[image loading]
Figure 1: Posts by people according to time
You don't need to understand every bit of connotation I made. "red" means the first post being done, which might confuse a few since it's the color used for scumming. If you have any questions, please ask, while I'm still here.


[image loading]
Figure 2: Interaction parameters
This should be read as "person on the left talking TO or ABOUT" person above. So for example a Tictock -> BillM = 8 means Tictock has talked to BM 8 times or it could mean he talked to him 6 times and 4 times he mentioned him in a conversation. Here is how I rate the interaction.
replying/taking stance in a general way:0,5
name mentioning: 0,5
casing: 1
asking question: 1
answering question: 1
voting: 2
unvoting: -1
saying unrelated stuff: 0
saying something about oneself or announcement for public: 1

---
OK with that done I will summarize my opinion about everyone up to 6:43 so far, before I go to bed. Tomorrow more.



plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 23 2015 01:46 GMT
#468
I'm writing up currently what this means for me, I will be done 20 min, I think.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 23 2015 02:20 GMT
#474
1. sicklucker (SL): from the graphics I see he has a very scheduley style. Drops in, reads everything, make posts and replies. He has conversed mostly with Breshke. At around 4 hours into the game he seemed to have an hour where he dominates the thread with conversation. I lean towards SL as town-null.

2. 27ninjabunnies (27): didn't have many posts and made an early showing (3 posts within the first 30 min) to disappear for almost 4 hours. Coming back with a round of question directed at especially the newbie players. Proceeds to townread Sulfurus. I need to see more for a decision. Null read.

3. disformation (DI): My scumread so far. He's fairly active in the first 3 hours, posting really in between the conversation of others with fine, careful, uncommiting. While others seem fairly focused on their conversation, he's kinda lurking and picking cherries. You have to go back, read and see what I mean. I'd vote for him.

4. Bill Murray (BM): I have trouble reading him. He seems like he's really enjoying the game and doesn't really give a fuck. From 3:00 to 4:00 he was in some sort of a posting streak, where I think he really tried to analyzes the situation. Null read so far.

5. Batsnacks (BS): he was the guy who opened with this Iching thing, then was active for 2 h and vanished (into the night maybe). For all I see he could be mafia trying to poke in, than seeing nothing really endangering him and backs off. I do notice though he has 3 interaction points towards SL, but SL seems to kinda ignore him.

6. Tictock (TT): the most active person in my opinion, he has interaction towards with BM, SL, BR, BS. All 7 points or above, but he hasn't gotten the same resonance from the others back, which means he talks to them in the same amount as he talks about them, in which case they don't feel the need to reply. I think many posts from TT are strange: like implying SL disappearing (when it's normal and his style is like this) as some sort of anomaly, or not noticing BM was posting ironically (when he said his vote on 27 was serious) when to me it's clear as day, or befriending Batsnacks all of a sudden. I don't know it sounds paradoxical but I can only townread and scumread him at the same time. There is no null here.

7. Breshke (BR): The only thing I found strange at the beginning is how he quickly zoned in on SL. But I think he is smart and later also gave a reason why he did that without really thinking SL is scum. I think they both reach a point where they think about each other: "hmm I cannot scumread you just yet". I'm leaning towards town with Breshke, for his activity and sense-making so far.

8. Sulfurus (SU): sure is a bold thing to vote with the first post. And he doesn't seem to have second thoughts about his read either. I kinda like this attitude, but I need to see more posts and make a decision on him

9. scott31337 (SC): appears rather late to just talke about BM and SL, not really trying to drive some conversation. I need to see more.

Ok that's it, I need to go to bed now. Tomorrow I hope to be able to catch up and make more reads about 27ninja, Sulfurus, scott and the three that had not yet posted at that time, Rels, boxerfred and Barakos.

##Vote: disformation

plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 23 2015 13:40 GMT
#544
Well, I'm at p15 now, hope to at least catch up to the post I made yesterday with my "analysis". I do realize that it might prove not to be helpful at the end (what if there are no particular patterns?). But I just thought I can be a complimentary part to town by looking at it in a more statistical, factual way. It's there. With enough effort, everyone can do it. We already have a lot of people here standing guard, being pro-active, keeping mafia on their toes with their thread presence. My statistics might prove helpful if you can use it to support your claims.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 23 2015 21:26 GMT
#575
yea what the hell is scott thinking, even yukari can't help him now, i've never seen something like this
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 23 2015 22:09 GMT
#604
are you kidding me?^^
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 23 2015 22:12 GMT
#606
btw, did you use a template for this, cakepie? No way you have just written this in 7 min
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