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On May 10 2015 11:15 GlowingBear wrote: O, hai! I'm John Travolta! Yamato and HTS are Mafia. This is almost as bad a read as me saying GB is town just saying. However at this point I have a couple of preliminary town reads I believe just by tone and posting style and somewhat on content. Rsoultin seems to be genuinely using the posts to press good ideas while pressing issues that are important in the thread. HTS and Trfel both seem to have a good tone about them and it seems it is easy to follow what they mean while it somewhat mirrors what RS says I think it is a good sign of things to come and both are good leans. KSC... is a bit harder for me to get a handle on at this point, I have a slight town lean on him. His tone and general demeanor remind me of Void Mafia at this point. However his style is also reminiscent of mini mafia to an extent, but the content is different. I'm pretty ok with him at this point. LS is interesting, he always wastes posts but we'll see what his other posts do. [/QUOTE] So far HTS had post just his first post which I like others have found pretty underwhelming and somewhat suspicious due to tone. Maybe it's possible damdred doesn't agree with this, but to find it "to have a good tone about them and it seems it is easy to follow what they mean while it somewhat mirrors what RS says" is pretty much impossible imo. This feels very very fake to me. Also the KSC read that follows is very ircky. It's a pretty weak read but very detailed in some convoluted way to end up arriving in a random conclusion. It does not sit well with me and I believe a towny would wait a bit for his read to mature before giving out this read, since it seems it's just there to fill up space, it's not a strong read and shouldn't be explained so much if no strong conclusion was drawn. | ||
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On May 10 2015 15:24 TalkingDead wrote: GlowingBear's reads are definitely odd. For example, how he says the read is magic then tries to give a short crappy explanation for why he's scum. I get the sense that Damdred-GlowingBear is either town-town or mafia-mafia. It's odd because Damdred looks reasonably towny and GlowingBear looks like mafia. Damdred despite apparently being a strong player uses pretty weak arguments against him. It just feels like both want to throw shit at each other and neither are interested in actually starting a train on them. Onegu looks quite odd. Yamato looks really towny though; he can do this as mafia but I'd peg him as town. So far, I'd lynch BillMurray. I've seen him as town and as town he rarely does absolutely nothing and be useless. I would prefer him as a lynch. BlazingHand should be policy lynches/shot ASAP. Rsoultin is being townread for very bad reasons; she's might be town, but nothing he's posted is something she couldn't have or wouldn't have posted as mafia. Otherwise, meh. Another post that really bothered me was this one. I don't know how he got this idea that it must be town-town or mafia-mafia interaction but he is seems to be adamant about pushing it, but not about explaning why it must be. "It's odd because Damdred looks reasonably towny and GlowingBear looks like mafia." if this was his first impression why come to the conclusion they share the same alignment? Again it looks like and idea he is trying to push and not something that has logic or reasoning behind which feels like mafia agenda. This is further enforced by his next post which he saves himself the trouble of talking about damdred at all but now pushes the idea that it must be a town-town interaction with GB. | ||
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Quote: "GlowingBear In looking through things there are a few things I find interesting. On May 10 2015 12:36 GlowingBear wrote: 4)Kelsen Null opening. Commenting on something already dropped in the thread it's an easy out for Mafia but the joke made me have a townish gut read on him. A negative read + a positive read = null FUCK YEAH MATHMATEKS. Then he calls LS out for legit reasons. Townread. I already know he is mafia because SICK READS (TM) Saying Rasputin is town for her opening is odd, there is nothing alignment indicative in there, so bad opening. 6)LS Posts two posts to say he will resort on consolidated posts. Lol I'm tempted to call him Mafia for that but I can see it coming from both alignments... Argh. I found this post quite odd. Initially so because he reaffirms his Damdred scumread but then bothers to comment on something that's supposed to be viewed as scummy but is just null. The townread on KelsierSC I find interesting because Kelsier also ended up with an odd townread on GlowingBear. But also because GlowingBear doesn't mention Trfel at all while Trfel had an interesting point on how LightningStrike was posting. But in looking further at it, he doesn't seem to place heavy weight on LS being mafia based on talking about how he's going to make consolidated posts. He gives Kelsier a townread for mostly calling out LS for "legit reasons" which GlowingBear doesn't want to follow up on. It's just exceptionally odd. GlowingBear's reads in general are just exceptionally odd on top of that. Initially, I felt like GlowingBear was trying to bus Damdred and Damdred was (at least initially) trying to back him out of that read in a semi-natural way and get GlowingBear to chill out. But in looking more specifically at the connections, the KelsierSC-GlowingBear connection is a bit more odd. I think there are better lynches on day 1 because often enough the person with really weird fucked up reads is just a bad towny which wouldn't be out of place for GlowingBear. But I also wouldn't balk at his lynch since something's definitely wrong here. 5)Damdred This post is too long already and I need to get some food. I'll comment on him later. tl;dr I think GlowingBear vs Damdred is more likely to be town-town right now. " If I'm reading correctly you say there is plenty of reasons to suspect GB, wouldn't be against his lynch because there is definitely something wrong, but somehow you STILL think damdred and GB are the same alignment for some obscure reason that you never revealed AND now you think it's likely the are town-town??? WTF is this shit. I can't buy into a single thing you are saying, this feels like a huge pile of horse shit. | ||
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On May 11 2015 05:27 sandroba wrote: So far I'm most suspicious of damdred whose first post particularly bothered me by the sheer amount of BS concentrated in such few words: So far HTS had post just his first post which I like others have found pretty underwhelming and somewhat suspicious due to tone. Maybe it's possible damdred doesn't agree with this, but to find it "to have a good tone about them and it seems it is easy to follow what they mean while it somewhat mirrors what RS says" is pretty much impossible imo. This feels very very fake to me. Also the KSC read that follows is very ircky. It's a pretty weak read but very detailed in some convoluted way to end up arriving in a random conclusion. It does not sit well with me and I believe a towny would wait a bit for his read to mature before giving out this read, since it seems it's just there to fill up space, it's not a strong read and shouldn't be explained so much if no strong conclusion was drawn. Fixing first post quote. | ||
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The person I feel most strongly about is TD and I would like you to share your thoughts on him/ what I've said about him. | ||
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On May 11 2015 08:37 Blazinghand wrote: So it seems like things should be prety straightforward in terms of hunting scum. I didn't mention this earlier because I needed people to be posting without knowing about this. Basically, right now people only have PMs revealing alignment, right? What this means is scum do not know who their scumbuddies are. Since they don't want ot accidentally push scumbuddies, for the first 24 hours of the game you can expect scum to not want to give scumreads. They don't want to be forced to backtrack later. So who's giving scumreads and who isn't? People who haven't given solid scumreads, or have given only joke scumreads: Marv Onegu Trfel Sandroba Xat bats rso oastmaster LS (I assume, it's kinda hard to read this dude's post) RoL Bill Murray Palm VE JAT Vivax Stutters People who have made scumreads, or said they want to lynch someone, which would be risky for scum to do: GB HtS (some) Yamato OWS Damdred KSC TD so GB HtS Yam OWS Damd KSC TD are town, the rest of you are scum ez First off if you got the same town pm as me I don't know how you can you can derive anything about scum not receiving what their team is along with alignment? That seems to be a pretty outlandish conclusion to be jumping on without extra information. Second saying that haven't given a solid scum read means you haven't read the thread at all, as I've discussed my scum reads quite a bit. On May 11 2015 08:46 Oatsmaster wrote: Sandros shit seems really planned out and fake. Like this post right, marv doesnt do that. And a scumread for not posting is pretty bad considering the general lack of content. And i really fucking hate lists posts man, seriously dont post a huge list of nonsense. Talkingdead especially. Is that rayn? What exactly marv doesnt do that I said he does? And what exactly sounds fake about my post? Do you find marv's entrance amazing and exactly what he does as town? And both reads he gives (damd town gb scum/weird) I do dissagree with so I don't know what exactly you are trying to get at. And your comment about TD, you hate list posts or do you find them scummy? Other people have done it as well (GB and maybe others) I don't get why TD needs a special "pls don't do that anymore"with no read assossiated. Also you say my shit is planned out and fake but you focus on my least important post and ignore all the shit I've said about damdred and TD. If you wanna say my shit is fake pls adress my main points and show me where you find fake and planned out shit. | ||
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On May 11 2015 05:43 sandroba wrote: @talkinghead If I'm reading correctly you say there is plenty of reasons to suspect GB, wouldn't be against his lynch because there is definitely something wrong, but somehow you STILL think damdred and GB are the same alignment for some obscure reason that you never revealed AND now you think it's likely the are town-town??? WTF is this shit. I can't buy into a single thing you are saying, this feels like a huge pile of horse shit. Reposting this for better formating and because it was mostly ignored. | ||
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On May 11 2015 10:31 Oatsmaster wrote: Rsoul, just cause you don't town read someone it doesn't mean they are scum. Give me one reason why marv is scum. Sandro just made a completely unnecessary post calling gb town when nobody is even talking about gb. Why did you make that post Sandro? Also your points involving td are that he has a weird read on gb and damdred? Why is that read scummy? iirc damdred was talking about GB, hts, and I'm pretty sure some other people are questioning him. I'm also quite sure you have made the same exact read just a page ago. My point on TD is not that his read is weird, but that he is clearly fabricating his "same alignment read" on damdred-gb. In the subsequent post (the huge list one) he ignores the main issue that people were questioning him about (damdred and KSC commented on that and maybe other people did as well that I don't recal) and skips his damdred read completely, makes a long post about very convoluted weak reads, shares some very convoluted suspicion on GB and somehow in the end concludes damdred and GB are town-town out of the blue. It does look like he has conclusions already and is trying to fabricate explanations to fit them, which is mafia behavior. His GB-damdred town-town read might very well be true, but the way he arrives at it is not a way that a townie does. | ||
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On May 11 2015 10:54 TalkingDead wrote: Considering that I haven't in any realistic way explained either the town-town or mafia-mafia read and that I haven't explained why I've ended up on town-town, you're making some major presumptions about how I arrive at that specific read. Honestly, I think you need to reread the game with a new set of eyes because I think you're really off base about numerous things. @TD you haven't explained it despite 3 or more people asking you to. Also in your long post you talk about how GB is very suspicious and somehow arrives at damdred and GB are town, which you haven't explained. If somehow you arived at damdred is town, then GB must be town too, then you didn't bother to explain your damdred read in your long post, despite it being the main point of contention of people adressing your post and explained your GB scum read which was already obsolete due to your same alignment logic which doesn't make any sense. I'm always open to read the game with a new set of eyes, but only when new information is presented, so you have to do your part here and provide reasonable explanations people are asking you to. On May 11 2015 10:55 rsoultin wrote: already gave a reason why marv is scum xP not going to give you more, bobo. read and be enlightened bueno willing to compromise on a SCUM and not a NULL because i'm not null-reading marv despite oats' implication to the contrary mmmm honestly sandro td is just eeeeeeehhhh to me right now...i'm not a big fan of huge list posts with giant explanations and little worth in general, and while the town-town, scum-scum thing is odd i'm not sure how that makes him scum? unless you're implying (as you seem to be) that damdy and td are scum together, and that his linking damdy to gb and townreading gb is his way of implicitly protecting damdy... i don't really agree with you on the damdred scumread. i've recently played with him as scum...it's not really settling in the same way for me. the best way to put it is fluidity i think but lol...i'm terrible at explaining these types of things  if you're basing td's alignment on damdy's i think you're on the wrong track ^^@rsoul I don't like to make assossiation reads this early into the game, especially with none of the parties involved flipped. They could be scum together, TD might be mafia alone and knows damdred is town and found it hard to justify his read, I could be dead wrong. I'm trying to figure out which, but I believe I'm definetely onto something regarding TD. | ||
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On May 11 2015 12:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I can understand the yamato read. Why Oats? Random read on me which is illogical and nitpicky. Random defense of marv. | ||
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