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one day I'll be good at mafia | ||
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2) You can roll,Scum with me and we will play in style | ||
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On May 10 2015 11:15 GlowingBear wrote: O, hai! I'm John Travolta! Yamato and HTS are Mafia. This is almost as bad a read as me saying GB is town just saying. However at this point I have a couple of preliminary town reads I believe just by tone and posting style and somewhat on content. Rsoultin seems to be genuinely using the posts to press good ideas while pressing issues that are important in the thread. HTS and Trfel both seem to have a good tone about them and it seems it is easy to follow what they mean while it somewhat mirrors what RS says I think it is a good sign of things to come and both are good leans. KSC... is a bit harder for me to get a handle on at this point, I have a slight town lean on him. His tone and general demeanor remind me of Void Mafia at this point. However his style is also reminiscent of mini mafia to an extent, but the content is different. I'm pretty ok with him at this point. LS is interesting, he always wastes posts but we'll see what his other posts do. | ||
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On May 10 2015 11:23 KelsierSC wrote: I'm a bit confused damdred Rs is pressing good ideas and important issues , but the only "good" idea she has really pushed is that HTS has a forced tone and is mafia. The most impressive part is that you ignored the trutly contradicting things I put into the post but key'd in on something that I actually believe. (3) | ||
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On May 10 2015 11:27 Damdred wrote: The most impressive part is that you ignored the trutly contradicting things I put into the post but key'd in on something that I actually believe. (3) To expand a good bit, RS posts are decently good and even though the idea of HTS being mafia running in multiple posts, most of the posts however are well thought out and even the post where RS was being a pita towards the thread up above it still conveyed good ideas in a good manner. However there is something really off in my reads. (4) | ||
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Your original question kel was a little lacking but the follow up was much better I think. Firstly I don't necessarily have to agree with someones read on them to like the direction that they are going in the way that they are posting or the ideas they are pushing. I think that HTS tone is decent in the post and I just kind of tacked it on to see who would call me out on it while they were reading. Plus it got some more conversation going (5) | ||
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On May 10 2015 11:35 KelsierSC wrote: I don't really understand why people are so quick to call rsoul town. Nothing jumps out at me as being particularly townie. A lot of people seem quick to call her town and sort of buddy up. She is bringing up the points she things are important but I don't agree with all of it. i don't agree with the HTS read and the rest of what she says is pretty lacklustre A lot of it at this point is familiarity with how RS (and several other players who I generally have a good way to read), typically act. At this point I don't want to go a ton into meta because a three posts by RS is still a small sample size, but tone, some of the content and the attitude RSoultin presents at this juncture really feel like a town Rsoultin. It's just a lean but its part of the game at this point (6) | ||
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However the plan is to get as much content in as many posts as possible which is happening to an extent. (7) | ||
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________________________________________________________________________________________________ Obviously I think that GB is a busser and will just keep hitting his team mates over the head until he dies or his team mate dies we did it ourselves in a previous game. And it is possible that there is some connection between who he is scum reading potentially and himself but i'm not sure that hes necessarily scum but he is on the scummy side of null currently. For example in his reads list a lot of what he says follows thread sentiment, theres nothing here that is against the grain so to speak, nothing really is standing out a part from what other people have generally said. Also the read on batsnacks is interesting because it is reversed from GB calling him townsnacks earlier for sarcasm (which is a sign of a town snacks at points.). Theres also an unevenness to how GB is reading if I pull your attention to Yamatos post and HTS post that GB is referring to, both of them cover the same topics and both have this sense of excitement about specific roles. Others have already commented on the tone of it, however GB is reading both of them differently by the same amount of content and for the same crime. I dislike this and give GB a scum point Also i'm a bit biased due to it being about me, but his read on me is by the large completely devoid of reason. My response to RS opening is pretty null usually par to town read the first person posting even if its joking. However I have around 6 other content posts that GB ignores and doesn't even comment on just being happy to call me scum for a bad opening which again the unevenness putting other people at null for the same reasons. I actually think GB is a scum lean just a really weird list post with unevenness throughout (8) | ||
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My read on rsoultin is actually really good now days. Her town and scum games are actually very different on a few levels but I don't want to go into that giving her hints how to improve at this point, also its tradition to always townread the first post lol.. But anyway Also GB isn't reading it seems never tries to refute what I'm saying just throwing dirt on me to try to discredit some valid things in saying about the list but instead like I said is throwing sand without actual interaction or showing why in the original post or here. It is strangely familiar if you look at mini mafia 2 and how he interacted with palmar early in the game. (9) also <3 bill | ||
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On May 10 2015 15:24 TalkingDead wrote: GlowingBear's reads are definitely odd. For example, how he says the read is magic then tries to give a short crappy explanation for why he's scum. I get the sense that Damdred-GlowingBear is either town-town or mafia-mafia. It's odd because Damdred looks reasonably towny and GlowingBear looks like mafia. Damdred despite apparently being a strong player uses pretty weak arguments against him. It just feels like both want to throw shit at each other and neither are interested in actually starting a train on them. Onegu looks quite odd. Yamato looks really towny though; he can do this as mafia but I'd peg him as town. So far, I'd lynch BillMurray. I've seen him as town and as town he rarely does absolutely nothing and be useless. I would prefer him as a lynch. BlazingHand should be policy lynches/shot ASAP. Rsoultin is being townread for very bad reasons; she's might be town, but nothing he's posted is something she couldn't have or wouldn't have posted as mafia. Otherwise, meh. I'm not sure I follow exactly, for example you leave out a very possible situation where one of us have found a scum. There's always three scenerios town-town mafia-mafia or town-mafia. I'm really not sure why you would entertain two but one that's also possible. Sexondly how in the world are either of us supposed to start a train on the other 5 hours or whatever into a phase where we aren't lynching at all. I'm not sure I understand why my reasoning is "weak" or hoe I'm throwing shit at GB when I'm interacting with his posts and explaining why this is such but he isn't. RS is being town read for ok reasons, or town lean I should say. I'm not sure why people think the scum game is so close to town meh it is what it is. Anyway not sure why you want to lynch bm for not doing anything when he did something that you could of commented on instead meh. (10) | ||
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I'm not sure why its such a big deal I say your likely town at that juncture for first posting and then later explain it because of your content. I think its kind of dumb everyone is paying so much attention but whatever to that point. Not sure why it matters that I just boldes Yamato necessarily. I think its a bad point(?) that you are making, I liked Hts tone I even went on to say so again later, liked yamatos first post tone and his last postings to a degree. However I can see how its a bit odd as it infers I scum read Hts. That is more valid than I originally thought. Kel missed the obvious problem I think and asked a bad question, trfel and kel then found the problem and pressed it. And kels response afterwards was thoughtful at least. Anyway idk what else to say I really can't spend more posts elaborating the same points meh. going to bed . (11) | ||
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LS post I dislike actually, it is a lot of words but kinda nit picks certain posts and ignores others. It also lacks any form of conclussions just says a lot and nothing without much commitment. Kel, why are you leaning town on gb? Rasputin being a bit of a pita bit that's normal. Its kinda weird feeling having so many people town reading me this early, its bizzaro land but I like it. (12) | ||
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Also you keep only talking about my one opening posts when I have 12 others that you could be pulling from yet ignore to focus on something easy. LS is Scum lean 2. Sucks both Scum leans called me out before I came to that conclussions but LS just reads so strangely and his reasoning and lack of meta is concerning. Pretty sure of this one (13) | ||
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Probably s bit further than you have read. (14) | ||
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However LS why are you paying special attention to my intro but discounting all of my other content and inferring I'm Scum from it. And you instantly retract your hts read because of later content but not using the same rules with me. That's not the town LS I know. (15) | ||
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A few thoughts I don't like talkings big list post, but so does most of the thread. I think the skip over me to tackle GB is interesting and makes no sense. GB has promised content and not delivered up to this point. That is alignment indicative for him, he's ignored his top Scum reads and decided to waste posts. I think hrs a food lynch. LS is still scummy for reasons outlined earlier, and I think the sudden turn on hts abd trying to half do his usual metaing of people AFTER hrs brings it up shoes he's just trying to get off people's radar at this point also. I still have a lot of nulls but sandros posts are ok? Even if they are about me I hate they focus on one or two posts I've talked about a bit already and ignore other content. And a lot of it has already been said to an extent.... so maybe it's not as ok as I thought. Any questions I'll answer at start of day | ||
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I'm not actually sure what content looks fake at this,juncture? If you are just talking about the rs town read and me trying to get reactions by putting hts in that list at that point. I could agree with you. However I was one of the first people to point it out etc., but besides that I felt I've had good content and have keyd on particularly scummy portions of people's game so far. However you,might,need to be,more specific instead of,just saying a lot of bs trying to get town read as I quite believe that it is good content. I've talked about talking a bit I didn't want to go into a ton of detail however I asked him several questions earlier in the thread that I don't believe he ever responded to instead doing a list post where he doesn't explain how GB and myself are town town. I think,what you said specifically isn't bad especially for this early. I think the contradictions that he shows and the weird way he sees me and GB as only mafia-mafia or town-town is bad. Little reasoning and all like I alluded to earlier he is a Scum lean at this juncture probanlybright under ls | ||
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I now have a town read on td and sandroba. this will likely cause me some grief but its how I feel at the moment in time. (1) | ||
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On May 11 2015 11:42 KelsierSC wrote: you could explain why tney are town, rather than talk about how you are going to get questioned. You are always so pushy and rude at times kel when you are like this lol. sandroba this game is exceptionally wrong about his two primary reads in me and td I feel. However hrs pushing his own ideas and his own agenda in the thread. If you look at any past game he rolls scum in you don't really see this kind of activity and ability to push like this, at this point in the game generally. O think he's really wrong but he's town. I just like td, he might be obstinate about answering at times but he is pitting himself out there. I think he's town I don't want to say much more than that. Well one last thing he's really putting himself forward and not trying to blend in, I don't see a scum who has received some heat still putting this forward I think hr would be more agreeable and trying to explain rather than not and not blending. (2) | ||
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I don't think you know what blending is, hes still not doing it. If he wanted to blend in he would auto answer things or make comments that wouldn't get him called out and sink back into the muddy water that is the rest of the player list. (4) | ||
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On May 11 2015 12:27 KelsierSC wrote: your calling him town because he is not blending in, but that isn't an option for him at this point so calling him town for that is stupid. So basically you are complaining about my read because i'm right that hes not blending in? (5) | ||
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On May 11 2015 12:29 KelsierSC wrote: you called him town because he is being obstructive and not explaining...then he explains his read but you still call him town. then you say he is town because he is choosing not to blend in, but I explained he has no option to blend in so it is completely irrelevant. Now you are just being kinda not fun right now. He answered questions in a way that caused him not to blend in. Mafia like to blend in and will usually bend to peoples wills to fit in before they can't blend in anymore. They don't like being called out for things especially this early in the game. (that is just a general heusitc.) Of course i'll call someone town for a good post if i'm already town reading them. And you are kind of arguing a pointless thing? If you disagree with my reasoning then disagree with it but this isn't the way to prove i'm wrong or scum. (5) | ||
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On May 11 2015 12:39 KelsierSC wrote: As explained already, you haven't blended in because you don't have the choice. i don't even know what your cookie jar is a reference to , unless you are going to try and call me mafia now. you still haven't answered my earlier question i already explained that I disagree with your reasoning. your town read of him is bad and i'm explaining that to you. Nothing bad about it honestly. you are just trying to be nit picky and overly in your face for no reason. I think hes town. Mafia like to blend he has done nothing but stand out when he posts, he had a choice to blend he chose not to. I liked his post oh well, the conversation is pointless and you are just being meh at this point. (7) | ||
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But he's really in the shadows and not doing much or taking a stance in a lot of the important things in the thread when he's here. For example if you look in his filter (I wish I could quote) there's one post strictly to ksc that caught my attention. It doesn't take a stance on anything asks jsc opinion and not much comes of it. It just looks like doing things just to do them. He's actually on my scum list atm. (8) | ||
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Many things have happened and yet not a ton at the same time, I feel a lot better about Marv and somewhat better about palmar. Sand in not sure exactly why you say that about my game and the desparity between this game and others I really don't believe it lol. I think id rather not lynch bm today, a nuke this early by scum doesn't make a ton of sense to me. I think we should lynch xatalos! (9) | ||
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I agree roughly that the pregame where BM gave his posts up and didn't do much is kinda meh. It helped me immensely at that juncture though. As such the excuse that BM used to fire the nuke isn't necessarily the least believable thing I've ever read. It's based on meta yes but I didn't feel it was horrible, it could of led to some really useful information and its a pity that it didn't. (10) | ||
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On May 12 2015 01:58 Half the Sky wrote: 15/60 Pfff, you ninjaed me BM. Alright, so you still think Trfel is the way to go then. Do you think anything he HAS posted is screaming scum? Second part of this post aimed at Damdred - I explained prior that BH's anti-nuke could be town or mafia motivated. Where do you stand on this (given the bolded statement)? Theres really not much to say? I think it was dumb of BH but I don't think him being dumb is really indicative... Anyway I actually like Yamato at this point, hes not useless per scum game. He seems to have actual thoughs behind what hes posting, I think he is an ok town lean presently. RS can you give me something to work with? Xata, I agree with you that LS still is scummy and that post is a good example. However, you used the post count restrictions the last time I caught you as well </3. Tell me what you think of Jat, Palmar and Marv. (11?) | ||
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On May 12 2015 03:21 rsoultin wrote: 16/60 what the living fuck? am i just posting for my health? either comment on what i'm actually talking about or go away -_- you're pissing me off. OR AT THE VERY LEAST if you think what i'm doing is that useless tell me what the hell you even want me to talk about give you something to work with my ass -_- @jat...ls' meta read is better than you think it is lol >< when we were scum together you had like the EXACT SAME argument with hf when he was town and you were scum, practically verbatim, and there is a bullying element to how you play as scum, whether you realize it or not -shrugs- eh you're probably right about yama...it's some of his one-liners that keep bugging me tbh...that and i remember him going ham earlier in his scum game so i'm not sure it's outside his scum range? he's not someone i want to lynch today by any means, though Considering you ninja'd me on some of your posts while I was typing my post on my phone yea get your head out of your ass and stop jumping to conclusions. Seriously i'm one of your best friends this game where people are saying why are people town reading rs, and I stand by my read. So yea, now get back to work or you get the hose again. As such, are you officially scum reading oneg? Or is it just an ick feeling? (12) | ||
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If anyone has a anti-nuke please use it Or I might have to rage on BM when I think hes possibly town here. (13) | ||
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On May 12 2015 03:22 Xatalos wrote: Hehee. It also works well as an excuse precisely because it's true  Don't really know Palmar that well. He's been pretty light-toned and active from what I saw so maybe a slight town lean? I think jat was more proactively leading discussion in the other game (Ippo). So far he's seemed a bit too nitpicky and reactive to my liking... Might be scum, I guess. We'll see. I've had little success reading marv in the past. Last game (Ippo) I also thought he seemed a bit disinterested / detached, but he was town all the same. I'd strongly oppose lynching him D1 just based on some vague feeling when he has the potential to almost single-handedly figure the game out. Ok so aside from those three where are the rest of your reads to the actives in the game at least? | ||
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On May 12 2015 03:33 LightningStrike wrote: God damn it Marv is looking townie and now he getting nuked................ Jesus BM got a nuking addiction problem here.(Cuddles next to rsoultin) Tina I have you town but can you please don't be so mean to Damdred even if he's rude to you? <3 Okay Xata is starting to pick up (He's wrong on my alignment and so is Damdred and JAT -_-) and looks okay but wouldn't lynch him Day 1 just yet. Also we don't seem to get the crazy calling everyone Mafia town Vivax here and he could be scum just for that. Anyone else agree with me about my Vivax read? What is your vivax read? why would you want to lynch someone you think looks ok? | ||
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Thank you for the commentary that means absolutely nothing if you don't tell us why anything is scummy. | ||
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On May 12 2015 03:36 LightningStrike wrote: My vivax read is scum. I would lynch someone that looks ok if there isn't any other choices to go for. Most people have vivax as scum though. Why though? Someone always looks worse than others, do you think xata is town? | ||
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On May 12 2015 03:37 Vivax wrote: As long as you don't explain why you think he's the towniest town that ever town I don't have the same obligation. If you think i'm scum you should just say it btw. As such marv has been really town this phase, not much else to it and other reasons I don't want to talk about. | ||
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However I have a plan, a great plan. We stop voting for bm. We let bm fire his nuke at oneg or oats any other bh blows it up. The day vig can then decide to shoot bm or not. We then let thread decide the lynch outside policy. This would get the most information out. | ||
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Rsoultin how sure are you that oneg is Scum here? | ||
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On May 12 2015 07:10 rsoultin wrote: 32/60 hrum, how to answer that, damdy? like i'm aware that i can be wrong and it's one of the reasons i want to discuss it, but if i could make all the decisions in this game he'd already be lynched. he doesn't feel right to me at all >< Let's say I don't want to lynch bm because I really don't. I would,like to lynch oneg but he's not my primary, xatalos Is high on my list and oats. I'm torn on vivax could lynch today maybe. Those are the four I'd like to be up for lynch/big. What do you think | ||
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On May 12 2015 07:17 rsoultin wrote: 34/60 i'd prefer oneg cause i'm more sure on him... won't lynch ls or vivax today...i'm not sold they're town but have reasons to think they could be xata and oats i'm fine with lynching, though. oats feels off cause of what i've said and i'm okay with sandy's points on him, too, and i dunnae xata just...eh. lol he can fool me easily. carol proved that. and i find it really difficult to believe he's already forgotten carol -_- and vivax going after him hard, cause i remember it quite clearly Here's what o think about xata specifically. The reasons I said earlier still apply btw and are still good. If you look at his current content he really hasn't changed overall he makes little comments here and there nit there really isn't a super hard stance that e has taken. Look at what his reads are generally really safe there's nothing there that is sticking his neck out on and everything is in line with the majority thinks. Which isn't a bad thing on its own he's not really looking for Scum. He also when asked about a controversial figure like td gives a bare bones explanation and seems to not understand why others called him Scum which is really apparent in the thread if he had been paying attention He's just in the thread without trying to help | ||
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Really good thought that. | ||
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He is the supreme in confidence, what had Trfel done to deserve an auto save? Nothing basically. Why se bond guess saving marv who,had Breen pretty towny up to that point. And asking Palmar what to,do. It doesn't make,sense | ||
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On May 12 2015 08:44 KelsierSC wrote: can BM call off nukes? I don't really want trefl to get nuked Why would Trfel,get nuked | ||
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Oats in this exchange looks a bit off, his answers are coming across oddly? He's a decent lynch here as well. | ||
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Xatalos, me and Palmar? | ||
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It does suck that no alignment will flip, that's why I didn't shoot one of mu scum reads early and used it on a policy. If we catch a couple of mafia I believe that we will be able to determine if bm was mafia or not. It sucks but tommorow would of been dominated by bm talk again. And you can pretend to not understand why I did it but it makes sense | ||
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Anyway, people will disagree with me and that's fine. | ||
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Xatalos is scummy you don't want to vote him and you seem really overly upset over this. And you fail to see why it wasn't ok given the circumstances. If people think I'm scum for it so be it. Just don't be petty and fuck off just because you disagree | ||
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Would he of been lynched today without the pardon yes. Would he of been lynched tommorow yes no matter what. You might disagree but when it comes to people I can lynch and having pre-setup lynches that's not good at all gives mafia two rounds of night kills while we rehash the same things. Now we get a lynch today bm is dead and we get new stuff tommorow. you might think its suboptimal but its not as horrible as you and RS make it out to be. | ||
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On May 13 2015 01:42 LightningStrike wrote: Tbh I disagree on using it on a mislynch and would rather hit scum with it because honestly it's better hitting scum than town that is a mislynch. Tbh he shoulda used it on a scumread but it's his call. Though tbh its really weird that you are so sure that bm was a mislynch... Like really really sure | ||
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Here he is just extra sure that bm is a mislynch no hint of paranoia that he could of been scum, which he could of been. Its just to sure of someone's alignment that he should t be. | ||
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He picks up reads as they be one popular and just that's it... I don't see any real push in his filter just along for the ride. Think,I'd rather him,be lynched | ||
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On May 13 2015 08:01 yamato77 wrote: last game, BH actually tried and made a little tryhard case and everything this game he's used his role and bitched he is not town That game he was also much more limited with time and still did it to | ||
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I think,if he's highly busy as he claimed sooner or later we can,catch him big,him or cop,check him if we want. He's scummy at this point but his,final,post seemed kinda genuine to a degree to me. We then have BH who is kinda meh and vivax who the wagon evaporated like td and GB have said. It is concerning I'm sorta tempted to give xata a little more time and lynch vivax or bh today. | ||
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I think Yamato is town without reading. I'll do more later, but GB is just dumb about me ignore that. Anyway I'll try to put something out there before eon | ||
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Glad i shot,bm. I wouldn't of gotten td I think. Marv kept,falling for me. Town vigs/nuker was awesome | ||
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After the shot I was sure jat wouldn't so that as town mostly. I thought you were town GB it was just so frustrating reading some of the posts. Like I disagree with executing bh I think still, I would,of lynched him,over executing. Other than that the only thing if an say is try to work with people a little more and try to see things from different angles. Also I read in mafia qt about maybe Geript influenced my shot. He did partly, I was going to shoot bm much earlier in the day. But he advised me to wait doe Marvs recommendations and I said ok. Besides that I didn't check at just shot bm soon as I saw the pardon Lololol. No regrets, Gg all honestly it was a really fin game | ||
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Honestly most the town played well imo, by end of day 2 there was only 4 people who I would of lynched d3 | ||
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Which is why I'm really happy and enjoyed this game, mostly every one just tried to Scum hunt it felt like. Overall I think the blues mostly played well, it was still odd LS protected GB n1, no offense to,GB that was a weird protect. I'd like him to explain that one lol. Was a good game I really enjoyed my time in it | ||
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I just don't see you getting shot there, I mean that's no offense intended but like. Sand was getting shot np matter what I think, I was what I considered a 2nd tier shot, my power was used was mostly town read was right on one more Scum. Like I was expecting a Yamato flip who was super towny and a good player, a marv shot, or even a kel shot. You GB at that time were like a third level shot maybe,medic,dodge range. Your power was used, but don't really have the pull in thread this game to make it happen. That's a bit consulted, and me not knowing for sure I shot,mafia till afterwards made it a little,clearer. | ||
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I hate to say this it might sound mean but 9/10 times GB will,never get shot. Especially with a stacked players list. That's not against GB obviously | ||
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Scum will,never ever shoot GB even as a medic,dodge over these people medic dodge or no. And I just don't get it I guess to me it's suboptimal but I also got yelled at for shooting bm so yea | ||
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Damdred
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Well I was trying to remember where LS reads were and I think,he was torn leaning on those I named | ||
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Damdred
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Bm had been pretty scummy honestly and really looked bad for power use etc., to scummy to,be Scum isn't a good defense. And the way he's hot nuke 2 is super scummy even if it's fake. It was just really confusing to,the thread and even,if,he was town two days of,the same,convo isn't good. So explain why it's bad to,me ls | ||
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Damdred
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I think a lot of stuff was based on gameplay rather than claims | ||
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Besides that I thought that almost all the claims were a bit moot since Scum could pick all of there abilities. Town was dumb claiming though. Though your right without vig Palmar rolls town I think. | ||
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Damdred
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Anyway I think I disagree somewhat on xata being a strictly policy shot...though I feel like if we went down that road it's more about semantics and definitions rather than anything concrete. | ||
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since you think i can suss you out 100% of the time? lol
town here. stop. again. stop. then happy dance? i dunnae hts we may be on opposing sides again :/
Also Palmar is actually here now so I really want him to bleed town esp because the last 2 times I had played with him he was scum (I was his scum mate in one of those games) and still haven't exactly figured out what makes Palmar scum at all when he's scum. Also the 1 person who calls Palmar Palmer is sicklucker from office when he(sicklucker) sent a pm to Palmer instead of Palmar who was the host for the game. I also liking Sandroba a lot this game he seems very insightful this time around 
