Newbie Student Mafia VIII - Page 6

Adding the three inactives doesn't make this an original read. Neither does saying that LightningStrike "seem[s] just as town as anybody else". His read on me actually hurts him, given his unexplained reversal on me later. He is slightly implying that he might be suspicious of scott31337 here, but he never mentions scott31337 again until this post:Where he seems surprised that scott31337 nearly got lynched. Bourneq's comment on scott31337 was either not casting suspicion at all, or he completely failed to follow through.

Bourneq then expresses suspicions of me, but more on this later.

This is contradictory to this point. Bourneq is stating a read that isn't popular thread sentiment. This is the only one in his filter, and while it isn't a strong commitment, it is a positive point for him.

From here, Bourneq aggressively attacks cakepie, but this post suggests that his attack was largely motivated in saving himself.
So in summary, Bourneq's reads are as follows (ignoring his reads on me:
Agrees with LightningStrike's reads
Townread on LightningStrike
Maybe slight suspicion of ObiWanShinobi
Cakepie may be mafia

For comparison, here are a summary of his reads from his previous game, Newbie Student Mafia VII. He was vanilla town. I won't go into detail, but I provided links to the posts in question so you can see for yourself.

• Suspicious of prplhz for an early vote on him
  
• I'm not going to go back and look at what he's saying about who, but Bourneq does a vote analysis casting suspicion on two players and null reading a third
  
• Suspicious of TheBloodyDwarf for not scumhunting
  
• Further pushes his scumread on TheBloodyDwarf (no link for this, multiple posts)
  
• Big list post, with lots of reads. Notable scumreads on prplhz and plotspot
  
• Another series of reads, using one of Tubesock's list posts as a framework. No hard scumreads, but interesting comments
  
• Reinforced his scumread on prplhz (no link because I messed up and lost the url, not looking it up again)
  
• Confidently scumreads plotspot
  
• Still suspicious of prplhz, maybe even more suspicious

And this is all from Day 1.

To be fair, that game was more active than this one (they ended Day 1 on page 46, we ended Day 1 on page 30, and that game had a more constructive environment (and thus he was asked more questions). But still, there is a very large difference between his play in these two games. You can try to argue that his lack of reads isn't alignment indicative (I would disagree), but you can't explain it with the "he's new" defense when he provided so many more reads last game.

Bourneq first townreads me, and then he scumreads me. His explanation for this is that I am trying a bit too hard. This explanation is strange, especially given the effort I used when I replaced into the last game, Student Mafia VII (which Bourneq played in). But the explanation doesn't matter too much.

Bourneq is asked why trying hard means that he is scum. This is his response:So he actually believes this. This is a very strange read. Note that he specifically mentions my large post as being scummy, the only actual supporting evidence in this post. This is strange, because earlier he said this:So, either he is terribly inconsistent and forgetful, or he is lying here.
So, he never actually considered voting for me. If my play is "different from last game, where [I] was town" and he is "getting a scummy vibe", why would he not even consider voting me? This is extremely strange.

Now, he says that the only reason he expressed suspicions of me in the first place was to get Bill Murray to answer my question, because I brought up some good points.

There are two possibilities here, at the time he made this post. He's either suspicious of me, or he isn't.

If he is suspicious of me, how was my play different from last game, where I was town? The only example he provides is not only proven to be not alignment indicative, but he acknowledged as much earlier in his filter. If he is suspicious of me, then why did he try to get Bill Murray to answer my question (he said I brought up some good points), and why did he not even consider voting for me?

If he is not suspicious of me, then why did he say that my long post made me look suspicious, when he already stated that it was not alignment indicative? And why did he bother explaining this at all (including the part where he says that my play is different from last game, where I was town) if he isn't suspicious of me, since this is well after Bill Murray answered my question, which is the reason he's doing this anyway?

Neither option makes any sense at all. I just don't see how town can play like this.

Let's assume that he is telling the truth here, and he mis-voted. He effectively voted for cakepie without any reasoning at all. At this time, cakepie had made two real posts. If Bourneq saw something scummy there, he would have said something. This is a policy lynch.Well, that's interesting, isn't it.
OMGUS isn't alignment indicative. But this shows that Bourneq posted on cakepie for survival. He would do this as either alignment, so it isn't alignment indicative. Notice that he probed to see if anyone would care before he made these posts (he got a positive response).

Bold emphasis mine. Who would he be talking to? Surely not his scum buddies in the scum QT? This level of honesty portrayed in a towny way could explain his earlier reaction to my early read on him.

Yes, I'm aware that this is stupid. But I find it funny to think about.