Newbie Student Mafia VII

On April 10 2015 06:25 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I hope our cop or vigi is guud. I don't want to die :|

On April 10 2015 06:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:

They scout for activity, if no activity they get no info.

If it spot activity it usually says who he visited.

On April 10 2015 06:27 Half the Sky wrote:


I figured as much from your pov.

On April 10 2015 06:36 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:

well as citizen you are quite fucked up And its pretty much bad luck if you get killed. Doc can heal, Vet blocks, some roles cannot die during nights.

On April 10 2015 07:05 plotspot wrote:
I never played mafia. I think on a forum I visited 10 years ago they started playing it. Never understood what the fuss was about. A few month ago the seeds from this time must have grown, when I was bored and read mafia on this forum, I kinda remember I have seen it somewhere before definitely. A game played 10 years ago and now still must have some sort of value right?^^

On April 10 2015 07:21 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Oh this is insta lynch for guy who gets most votes?

I mean, no trial

On April 10 2015 07:43 Tubesock wrote:
Woot! Hi everyone!

On April 10 2015 07:53 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Wow Soren is really digging old things :D

Cant we let past be past?

On April 10 2015 07:59 Onegu wrote:



Ok so pressure votes are fine, but I really don't understand the point why he needs to clairify with out being asked why...

It's like he feels guilty about why he voted and needed to clairfy to the thread for no reason.

On April 10 2015 07:24 prplhz wrote:

alright

so after reading some mafia on this forum and checking out the general guide, you decided it was a good idea to vote alphabetically?

On April 10 2015 08:00 Tubesock wrote:


Soren is looking good. Dwarf, uh not so much. Dwarf, you going to scumhunt at all?

Prplhz, how do you read Half The Sky? She seems different this game from what I've seen of her in the past. Seems towny to me, but to be fair, I've only seen her in 1 scum game and I thought she was strong town then?

On April 10 2015 08:12 Onegu wrote:

My point was he made the post to clairfy before you made that post. He votes talks about something then clairifies why he voted ace. Then you asked him the question.

On April 10 2015 08:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:

Wow this guy is hardcore. He is like failed psychiatrist. Never got his papers out of the university.

I think you.are trying too hard :D

On April 10 2015 08:14 Tubesock wrote:


That's why I was asking you. You have more experience with her. Next time, I'll just ask you your read on her. That way I can get a read on you and more insight on her.

On April 10 2015 08:24 Onegu wrote:



Why did I what?

On April 10 2015 08:48 Onegu wrote:



Meh 85%, he is capable of looking really townie as scum.

Plus why 100% this fast? Even I wait at least 12hours to give my soul reads.

On April 10 2015 08:41 plotspot wrote:
prplhz is 100% town. I can smell it.^^

On April 10 2015 09:11 Onegu wrote:



Wasn't me who edited bub

On April 10 2015 09:13 Onegu wrote:


You sure?

On April 10 2015 09:28 Half the Sky wrote:


I like this observation from Onegu, and his filter in general so far. His claiming VT is something he routinely does as town. Townlean (and partially based on meta).

On April 10 2015 09:35 Half the Sky wrote:


I'm not sure I agree with this. I didn't like his entrance or his opening at all. I need to take a closer look at his filter.

Scumreads so far on Bourneq and prplhz (pending filter recaps) and BD.

Townleans on Soren, Onegu.

On April 10 2015 09:41 Half the Sky wrote:


Townies can be incorrect. I pay attention to the tone and the timing.

Onegu in his town games, for what I recall, claims VT or town early on in game. I know I played Hammertime with him and I don't recall a VT/town claim in that. Admittedly I did not pay as much attention to XXX. If I recall correctly though from the obs QT, I think that claim came on pretty late, or when he was in more trouble.

On April 10 2015 10:13 rsoultin wrote:


xP

my point is more interesting than this

y so serious, onegu?

On April 10 2015 15:24 jarjarbinks wrote:
[...]1. He kept getting more and more defensive and not looking logical
2. He didn't early vote someone (right?) thinking that it isn't a big deal.
3. He didn't read the rules or something, which makes me think he is liable to focus on people scumming him because he doesn't really grasp what he is supposed to be doing.
4. Look how much attention dwarf got.
[...]

On April 10 2015 20:48 Soren333 wrote:

What's your scum read on him?

On April 10 2015 21:17 Bourneq wrote:

Meanwhile you have mainly been pushing a lynch on me since first days page based soley on me answering to your vote on me. From reading your filter you seem to have mainly been defending yourself in the same fashion when having been voted on and making jokes and from what I can tell not contributing that much to getting some serious mafia reads.

On April 11 2015 02:38 rsoultin wrote:


?

lol this is a strange comment prp

our alignments are dependent on each other or what are you saying?

On April 11 2015 02:40 rsoultin wrote:


that didn't really answer what you were saying :/

On April 11 2015 02:43 Onegu wrote:



Fourth grade spelling bee in front of whole school. My first word waffle. W-A-F-F-uhhhhh-E-L.... BZZZZZZZZ.

Young Onegu didn't eat a waffle for 5 years after this...


True Story

On April 11 2015 03:02 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Sorry for noob question but what sheeping means?

On April 11 2015 03:01 Half the Sky wrote:


Reading as I'm eating. I agree that also appeared TMI.

Also Rasputin, I didn't articulate it well (and Onegu also called me on it but I'm pretty sure I answered him) but at the time I scumread prp his first few posts, especially his first post was just out there. It doesn't make sense as a reaction test even. His next few posts didn't seem like there was much effort to dig much into Borneq and anyone would question an alphabetical vote from Ace, I can see him as scum or town doing that.

I am also ignoring meta on prp. I know I played Titanic with you both. but its also not hard to change a scum meta from jack all to some other approach. And that's the only game I've played with him.

On April 11 2015 05:41 Bourneq wrote:
If right now I would say Ace. He is very useless at the moment. He may very well be speaking the truth about having to be away for work but even if he is town he is certinatly the most useless town.

On April 11 2015 05:54 Bourneq wrote:

TBD. What about you?

On April 11 2015 08:39 Half the Sky wrote:
EBWOP - Let me rephrase that question plot - yes many are scumreading him, so it might appear he's a victim, but given the reasons people are scumreading him, don't you feel those reasons are justified?

On April 11 2015 05:54 Bourneq wrote:

TBD. What about you?

On April 11 2015 18:59 Breshke wrote:


same even if he has a redcheack and there is more than one misslynch left imo

On April 10 2015 07:53 plotspot wrote:
Really now, you must be psychic to infer some sort of alignment from such a post. ROFL. You might as well be mafia seeing an opportunity to jump on him. haha

On April 10 2015 08:12 plotspot wrote:
I'm considering changing my vote to Onegu. He's playing like a fucktard. But of course I'm still not sure whether it's his strategy or him inadvertently not "getting" some of the things.

On April 11 2015 20:39 Soren333 wrote:

You offer so much "generic opinions" but never really explain them to a certain extent.

On April 11 2015 20:47 Soren333 wrote:

It is a strange comment. Prp is scum at this moment. Asking pointless questions to appear as town, pushing for lynch that are not well founded and making weird comments.

On April 11 2015 21:55 Soren333 wrote:

Is that a bad thing?

On April 12 2015 04:37 Half the Sky wrote:
Am I making sense now prplhz (and others who might be in thread)?

On April 10 2015 09:43 plotspot wrote:
So If I say I like the people I like to win regardless whether they are mafia or town, what would you guys be able to read?

On April 12 2015 05:13 Tubesock wrote:


Man, I really like Soren. He seems really really town to me I can't let you lynch him. You were the first to mention how you liked him. What changed?

Stutters. Well, he has like 5 posts but they seem to have content and I read them and think he's at least thinking about the game. I think he's WAY more towny and useful than Dwarf or even Plotspot considering his weirdness.

On April 12 2015 05:21 Half the Sky wrote:


I mean if someone claims scum, there's not a whole lot really to analyse there now, is there? I mean he could have tried to analyse him and then in the midst of analysis, plot could have just made his life easier. I mean why is that possibility out of the question?

On April 12 2015 05:46 Onegu wrote:
So we have a scum claim and you dummies don't want to lynch the shit out of him!?

Please tell me what I am missing? Or is it just that you guys are being bad.

On April 12 2015 06:09 Half the Sky wrote:


You think she afked the vote when vote sentiment was solidly on plotspot? She was active in thread whilst I was fast asleep or on the way to my race so I have to look into her and what she was doing/saying at that time.

On April 12 2015 13:09 Breshke wrote:
holy shit EBWOP
So imagine if stutters is mafia do you think a partner swaps to him there

On April 13 2015 03:31 Tubesock wrote:


Can you explain the bolded. I'm not seeing any martyism from Stutters.

For the thread:

What does Scum!Prplhz have to gain from shenanying off a town? Or starting a shenany? Even a useless one?

On April 13 2015 04:09 rsoultin wrote:


xP very unlikely we have a whole scumteam full of newbies, yeah

but shining looks fine so far...he's the inactive type as scum so reading and commenting at all directly after replacing has him leaning town for me

bourne i still think looks okay? his ideas are a touch strange to me lol >< but he seems to believe them

what exactly did dwarf say that makes you so certain he's town, prp?

On April 13 2015 04:15 Tubesock wrote:


Uh I thought you said Stutters voted Plot for martying. I dont' think that's the entire reason but I'm sure it's part of it. Although I think it's more he scum claimed.

You're saying voting someone for martying is bad play right? I agree. I also don't like martyrdoming. I think it's bad play to vote someone for it and to do it. It's a less asshole thing to do than modkilling yourself.

On April 13 2015 04:17 rsoultin wrote:


??

i thought this meant he said something during the night phase that was very townie to you?

On April 13 2015 05:35 Holyflare wrote:
Well if I die someone not new is mafia then most likely

On April 13 2015 09:01 rsoultin wrote:


yeah? it was the impression i got while skimming...prp and tube seemed very convinced dwarf was town, but hts was late to the game? i don't know i could be misremembering. give me a sec

On April 13 2015 10:21 prplhz wrote:
it's also super easy to just call plot town when he's about to flip and then line stutters up for tomorrow.

On April 13 2015 14:27 Breshke wrote:


Okay how about the argument that i dont think hts believes changing her vote in the last two minutes off of a town wagon THAT SHE HAD BEEN PUSHING makes her look town.

On April 14 2015 02:30 Stutters695 wrote:
Anyway, onto yesterday's lynch.

Prpl, who first suggested to lynch me: I've played twice with him from memory and his scum/town play is drastically different.

Still a bunch of one-liners, but if you look at a town Prpl game when he's trying to lead a lynch, he provides reasoning, even if its lumped in between 10 one-liners. Scum Prpl tries to avoid being accountable by providing loose reads which barely justify his vote enough to not be lynched himself.

In this game, up until the Plot lynch started gaining traction, he's offered basically nothing except asking questions (not to say questions aren't good, but they must lead somewhere eventually). Then he brings up Plot trying to get confirmation for switching off of a joke vote as his reason for wanting to lynch him + Show Spoiler [plot lynch] +

Once he gets second thoughts about the Plot lynch he asked what our views were about how plot was defending himself.

I answer him, which he ignores and HtS says she sees scum behavior in him and then he decides he doesn't want to lynch Plot. He's shirking the responsibility of the lynch in favor of trying to lynch someone he has had no interaction with (except ignoring my point) with the goal of lynching me for

Which is funny considering if he had responded and shown why I was wrong, he probably could have actually convinced more people to lynch me, but he's just skating by to avoid attention.

After the mislynch + Show Spoiler +

He again shifts his suspicion off of his lynch target for no apparent reason. He's basically done nothing consistently, hiding it behind empty accusations and frequent posting.

The only reason I'm not 100% on voting him this instant is because I still want an answer to

and I'm not 100% on why Prpl would do that switch as scum to begin with.



More to come after I go to lunch.

On April 14 2015 04:50 Stutters695 wrote:


What about the non meta points?

On April 14 2015 08:53 Stutters695 wrote:


And your refusal to interact with me. You sure aren't doing much if you suspect me.

On April 14 2015 09:24 rsoultin wrote:


the tons of slack comment was about me xP i am giving him tons of slack and trying to pull things from him

lol i don't disagree with you? it's the main thing that's been keeping me from voting him up to this point, just because...such a god-awful obviously bad way to play scum >< like i'd feel like the biggest imbecile on the planet if at end of game he ends up being scum just cause he's like the poster child for scummy play this game lol

i'm just confused how you have a townread on him

On April 14 2015 09:35 rsoultin wrote:


there's not much to say about him?

the longer he's out of the thread the more he falls -shrugs- everything else has already been said, between what hts pointed out (which you already noticed) about the ace/tbd reads

lol >< i dunnae something just seemed genuine to me about his issue with emoticons/people joking

i'm not adverse to lynching him, i just don't have much of an opinion on him one way or another? i could make one up for you xP if that's what you really want

On April 14 2015 09:38 rsoultin wrote:


i don't lol

where do you get that from?

On April 14 2015 15:22 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:

But I did?

On April 15 2015 03:56 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:

Sorry, im trying my best

On April 15 2015 05:34 Stutters695 wrote:
Prplhz all in my brain
Lately he don't play the same
Actin funny and I know why
Scuse me while I lynch this guy


Plz

On April 15 2015 09:07 jarjarbinks wrote:
[...]
I also think prp could definitely pick dwarf early to townread and defend. The longer dwarf lasts and prp defends him the better he looks.
[...]

On April 15 2015 10:48 The Shining wrote:


What do you gain by fake claiming cop as town? It just makes no sense to me whatsoever. Treat me like a newbie, since I am. What strategic advantage would this give town?

On April 15 2015 11:03 Stutters695 wrote:

Say stuff and I'll listen.

On April 15 2015 11:12 The Shining wrote:


But it isn't, so I'm more curious as to what the purpose of these posts are. I'm listening to you now. Talk to me.

Instead of griping about how no one listened to you and about setup, recoup and regroup. Show me you're town if you are because right now, after looking at votes and EoD, I'm not seeing it. And not by saying you're town. Or wishing you could fake claim cop.

What did you think about EoD? Did you learn anything from votes?

On April 15 2015 11:25 The Shining wrote:
Eh. Very reminiscent of yamato in my last Student game. Angry, sarcastic player that flipped town.

It was wasted because you afkd it and ended up being the only vote on Bourne. And yes, to me, afking a vote before EoD is scummy. It shows you don't care who dies.

The fact that I think afking EoD after voting is scummy is also included in why I scummed Bresh and why I'm revisiting JJB.

On April 15 2015 11:51 The Shining wrote:


I feel happy that you're talking and not blowing me off. I'll the passive aggressive over ignoring me any day.

Yes, you said you'd probably miss it. So did JJB. I'm still revisiting him. Bresh said he might miss it cuz of sleep. I'm also still under suspicion after giving excuses, as well. It is the nature of the game. What I want to know is your plan moving forward. Who is scum then? Bourne still? Stutters? THAT'S what I meant by what did you learn.

And if you had been here, you had another option. You haven't given a read on me, unless I missed it somehow. I would like you to. Trfel and Bresh were both ready to vote me. If you were here to lend them support, EoD could have gone differently. You could have saved your town read if you wanted to, the way Trfel did for you.


Dwarf didn't waste his vote. He voted for me, the counter wagon at the time to save himself. It isn't necessarily his fault that 3 people jumped off my wagon in the last hour or two. No point in him switching to you, as he reached 5 votes first.

On April 16 2015 07:16 rsoultin wrote:
meh i don't see a scum!prp trying to mislynch me here, i really don't ><

On April 16 2015 15:19 rsoultin wrote:


lol you act like how you're acting in the thread would translate to a scum qt xP i'd been townreading/defending you and voted in part to save your ass day 2, so why would you want to nk me if you're scum?

if you're town, pull your head out your ass ^^ please and thank you

On April 16 2015 15:32 rsoultin wrote:


...

lol >< you can't believe that based on what, i didn't lynch scum? i didn't post a legacy post last night? like that's just asinine prp -_- i do hope you're scum cause i've come to expect more from you

this game is poison ><

On April 16 2015 15:40 The Shining wrote:


Want to take a crack at explaining her scum motivation for moving off of my lynch after I softed blue? That lynch would easily have been blamed on Trfel and Breshke literally yelling at the thread to lynch me, not her.

On April 17 2015 01:16 Trfel wrote:
Of course that's a possibility.

It would just be nice to see the reasons why you say you are town so I can see how they compare with my reasons, and plus it could save me some time. But it's not a big deal if you don't want to share, I understand why.

On April 17 2015 02:34 Trfel wrote:
I'm well aware that as of late, my play has been extremely disappointing and quite poor. And for that I apologize.

Later tonight I should have more time to play the game. I will do my best to prove my alignment (through my scumhunting) and to catch the scum. I'm looking forward to it quite a bit.