XXX Mini Mafia: A Night of Debauchery (18+)

On March 07 2015 01:40 rsoultin wrote:
lolol i may be out of my depth...-huddles in the corner with prp and onegu-

On March 10 2015 08:53 Damdred wrote:
I do not like pickles and do not find them sexy, my wife loves pickles the taste of vinegar just doe snot do it for me

On March 10 2015 20:23 Koshi wrote:

maybe you are?

On March 10 2015 09:19 justanothertownie wrote:

I don't always go against HF as scum. Only when he is annoying or a good mislynch (hehe). In heavyweight I buddied him hard for example.
As town I am usually pretty easy to townread.

On March 10 2015 21:10 marvellosity wrote:
To elaborate a little, specifically the whole trap-not-trap-whatever-it-was thing is very not-good


Like if he is serious about these posts then it's just terrible and rayn is not terrible.

If he is not really serious then it's not coming across very well (a negative point - would make it forced), and later posts seem to indicate he was at least trying to achieve something.

I wanted to see a couple of his posts after this to see if I liked how they looked, and I didn't.

So my vote is fairly serious for this point on D1.

On March 10 2015 21:50 Koshi wrote:

prplhz,
What is this?

I feel like if we want to establish trust you need to come clean.

On March 10 2015 20:20 Koshi wrote:

Nha, it has been proven that is not true for JAT. If one stays around and actually does groundbreaking stuff I would be inclined to townread them. But JAT didn't do that at all.

1) Answered a meek post of rsoultin with more meek stuff
2) Didn't cause any waves by doing scumhunting. Didn't cause any waves period
3) Made a snarky post to palmar townreading him.
3b) if it wasn't a snarky post I don't understand why JAT doesn't use that post to townread Palmar and uses some dumb other post instead.

On March 10 2015 22:33 Koshi wrote:

Not really.

On March 11 2015 01:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have no idea why people are townreading Eden and scumreading Slam.

On March 11 2015 01:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:

How about you make some meaningful posts instead?
Yeah i did the same mistake you did thinking Slam is in the game because i haven't read the playerlist after the game start and saw him making a post and remembered Eden called him mafia and someone else (you) talking about him.

You just gonna drop your vote on me and fuck off like you did in that one game?
It gets you a death sentence D2. I promise.

On March 11 2015 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I wrote people on both things because it's easier than writing "people townreading Slam and Damdred scumreading Slam".
It means the same though, doesn't it?

On March 11 2015 01:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:

bullshit.

On March 11 2015 02:13 Damdred wrote:
To go along with my point what are you trying to prove here rayn? That LS thinks he did better than you think he did? you are going after this in such a dogged fashion what is the point?

On December 17 2014 08:37 justanothertownie wrote:

Ok, I don't think he is that hard to read but you may disagree. BUT if you think so then why the hell are you townreading him? Because I think he is not that hard to read and I certainly don't have a townread on him by now. I also don't think that scum Palmar thinks he can curb town marvs influence.

On March 10 2015 17:24 justanothertownie wrote:

roflroflrofl

This game hasn't become more interesting since yesterday. At least I like rsoultin, Eden and Palmar so far. And another person I am not telling. huehuehue

Would policy lynch ritoky for keeping an mediocre joke alive for ages. Would also policy lynch slam (unfortunately not that easy).

On March 11 2015 02:34 Damdred wrote:
@Eden, when you read this explain to me why I shouldn't be town reading or at least putting you aside for consideration today? I felt some of your posts earlier looked pretty good and the paranoia that you showed in approaching some of the town reads on you I felt was equally good at this point. So why vote me here?

@Prh, I remember metal mafia and I agree with you that JAT could very very well be mafia here but i'm not sure that its because of how he town reads people necessarily. In games like imperial and a few other of his town games he gave out a few town reads earlier and granted it was pretty easy to townread some of the people in this game he is missing some of his key characteristics as town and some of the smart posts that he normally makes or at least observations in the thread. Though in that regard perhaps the town reads are telling as he isn't really saying smart things about them or what he likes just a bland this is who he likes.

@Marv, Do you think that this weird push on LS solidifys Rayn as mafia or more as town rayn keying in on something that's important to him but not necessarily true or make ls mafia?

On March 11 2015 02:48 Damdred wrote:
I don't really want to read imperial again zzzz, I know early on he said he liked some of Palmars/Marvs postings if I remember. Though it's not quite the same but somewhat.

On March 11 2015 02:54 marvellosity wrote:

to be fair, here he just said "i like". Not even "these guys are town". I know this is just semantics but part of what you're getting at in this post is semantics as well.

tbh your point may well be valid but i cba to look at his games right this minute + i'd rather let jat answer/play for himself atm

On March 11 2015 02:56 Eden1892 wrote:
Damdred's question about ray is great. Good job.

##UNVOTE
##VOTE: justanothertownie

On March 11 2015 03:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It appears i have no fucking idea why LS posts anything he ever does.

On March 11 2015 03:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Wh yare you saying this?
You were not flipped.

On March 11 2015 03:25 Eden1892 wrote:

Shhhhh only pressure now

On March 11 2015 02:56 Eden1892 wrote:
Damdred's question about ray is great. Good job.

##UNVOTE
##VOTE: justanothertownie

On March 11 2015 04:38 Eden1892 wrote:

Missed it and don't remember it lol

On March 11 2015 04:41 rsoultin wrote:
lol i didnt get much from it except a light eden townread for his outburst in the middle xP and yeah prp prob town/not todays lynch

On March 11 2015 06:36 marvellosity wrote:
btw is anyone else annoyed you can't ctrl-f the name of someone on p1 to find a filter, because it's done in some picture form instead

On March 11 2015 22:39 Palmar wrote:
Sex analysis:


+ Show Spoiler [rayn] +

+ Show Spoiler [marv] +

+ Show Spoiler [Onegu] +

+ Show Spoiler [prplhz] +

+ Show Spoiler [rsoultin] +

+ Show Spoiler [Palmar] +

+ Show Spoiler [JAT] +

+ Show Spoiler [LS] +

+ Show Spoiler [ritoky] +

+ Show Spoiler [Koshi] +

+ Show Spoiler [Eden] +

+ Show Spoiler [Damdred] +

On March 11 2015 22:53 marvellosity wrote:

meh. Koshi is just not mafia. And I really think prplhz is not mafia either.

You're supposed to have a soul read on prplhz and you are disagreeing with me and I don't know why. Maybe I am wrong but I don't think so which is why I am wondering why you are including either Koshi or prplhz in this list?

On March 12 2015 06:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Oh so you are "if" medic?
What's that. I AM medic.

On March 12 2015 07:46 marvellosity wrote:

wat?

On March 12 2015 07:50 marvellosity wrote:

this is very silly. much better to kill the medic.

On March 12 2015 08:01 Koshi wrote:
Like. I am looking at this playerlist and at least 1 out of Palmar/marv HAS TO BE SCUM.

Palmar isn't doing fuck all so I don't blame him for not noticing marv. (but he did)
Marv isn't noticing Palmar and put him way too high in his listpost. Probably because he can't estimate how high he should be.

Marv townreads Onegu pretty hard during D1. So I cant' really lynch Onegu before marv. So who is left? Really?

On March 12 2015 08:17 Koshi wrote:

Onegu told him in the scumQT. marv didn't read anything.

On March 12 2015 08:41 Damdred wrote:
JAT said he was town and he said smart things at points Prplhz

On March 12 2015 20:25 Koshi wrote:
You think mafia will frame you marv? That never happens.

On March 12 2015 08:28 marvellosity wrote:
i'm self-framing tonight

On March 13 2015 04:44 LightningStrike wrote:

to many scum need 1 less of them.

On March 13 2015 07:17 Koshi wrote:
maybe mafia shot rsoultin

On March 13 2015 07:18 Eden1892 wrote:
ray should tell me who he tried to save and whether or not he was rb'd

and should also try to help me figure out why he's alive, because it's nearly impossible to believe that he is the genuine honest-to-god medic, he's alive d2 and the only kill was rso (who was shot by vigclaim!palmar)

here's an incentive

##UNVOTE
##VOTE: raynpelikoneet

On March 13 2015 07:40 marvellosity wrote:
oh wow

my money is on rayn being vet and he claimed doc.

On March 13 2015 07:27 Palmar wrote:
prplhz what is your role?

On March 13 2015 07:49 Eden1892 wrote:
@marv what VT claim thing?

On March 13 2015 08:04 Palmar wrote:

jealousy, I wanted LS for myself.

On March 13 2015 08:19 Palmar wrote:
no, I just wanted to piss the mafia off by claiming their nk.

On March 13 2015 08:34 Palmar wrote:

There is no jailer.

On March 13 2015 08:34 Palmar wrote:
do you have a role prplhz?

On March 13 2015 07:54 Eden1892 wrote:

somehow this doesn't sound right. i want to say he claimed vt in hammertime and was mafia

On March 13 2015 10:00 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya guys I am the Town Roleblocker that why I called Palmars Vig claim BS. There is no way a Doc Roleblocker Vig would be balanced.

On March 13 2015 10:07 LightningStrike wrote:

I was but everyone else was scumreading her and thought that I might be wrong on her so I took the chance and it bit me in the ass.

On March 13 2015 10:35 LightningStrike wrote:

I would gain a chance of preventing a night via roleblock mechanics. I took a big chance since everyone was scumreading except for me and Eden + Rayn so I thought I might of been wrong again of her being Scum not Town again after Titanic and it bit me in the ass.

On March 13 2015 10:36 Koshi wrote:
obviously......

On March 13 2015 10:36 Koshi wrote:
obviously......

On March 13 2015 11:18 Eden1892 wrote:
Honestly the fact that we probably don't have a vigilante (don't see Onegu or ray being vig) implicates ray big-time. What mafia shoots a relatively new townie who was under suspicion over a doc-claimed vet who nobody suspected much? It just doesn't add up.

On March 13 2015 17:43 Onegu wrote:
Prpl why am I a scum read of yours all of a sudden?

On March 12 2015 19:57 rsoultin wrote:
mrrrr

too many townyish people this game big problem lol

-sits on marv's head and peers down at him-

you could be scum you know...kinda funny you seem to think that's an impossible thought to have. like i wouldn't be considering it if most of the player base didn't look town, but still

koshi+rayn+LS definite townies hi townies ^^ (tinfoil hat could i suppose have rayn scum ccing jat scum but that's a super fucking weird play lol and if they did that i don't mind losing to it ><)

prp...i like for town on filter dive. only reservation is despite his contribution to scumreading jat he stayed on rayn, but considering his reaction to rayn's LS push and his involvement in the thread otherwise, it adds up

eden anger too real...like i feel he'd hard town me as either alignment unless i started looking like a shitbag and other potential mislynches are actually harder to get lynched than me, but his paroxysms of fury/frustration are not how i remember him behaving when we caught him as scum before

marv...liked where his head was at. we clicked early. he did not want to lynch jat and only came around at the end...could mean a tunnel, we all do it, and i'm still inclined to say he's town. i even agree he's more likely to try to get cred out of that lynch especially considering jat goon...however. gotta love howevers xP this whole the main reason to townread him is he would have tried to get credit is weaksauce and his response to koshi read overly defensive to me. so he dropped to a light read. naughty marv

ritoky...if the only reason i can possibly town you is cause jat was pushing you you're sucking wind, boyo. i think it may be normal for you to get off to a slow start though so let me make this simple: YOU ARE NOT CONFIRMED TOWN TO ME. that means you actually have to do some shit. i see no reason jat couldn't have bussed you, and a lot of folks look way more townie than you do

onegu...only reason to townread him is the vt claim and that does actually appear to be a thing...again, if that's the only reason i can call you town, though, that's frankly not anywhere close to good enough

palmar...prp is scum? lol i can't read your game anyway, and apparently you've lost your pulse on prp as it is, but i don't know what the hell you're doing this game

damdred like...i don't think i even need to add on here. i still feel like he poe'd himself. there's a bit of awkwardness to his play this game, too, and i forget who mentioned his townreads looking naïve town, but naïve is not a word i'd associate with damdred...ever

On March 14 2015 00:21 Palmar wrote:

I don't really care about being wrong or right that much.

Or well, I am always okay with being wrong.

On March 13 2015 18:08 ritoky wrote:
rsoul just spent the entire game in down under mafia siding the entire way as town...you realize this right?

On March 14 2015 04:49 ritoky wrote:
onegu is town he only claims VT as town, he doesn't do this as mafia. he claimed VT he is lock clear town.

On March 14 2015 05:40 Eden1892 wrote:
Hmmmm yeah I guess? Idk would you need to go back and read old games to know that?

I guess so since I know I would've.

Man when you put it that way this sounds bad lol. But then why as town would you not do anything with it either?

On March 14 2015 05:48 Eden1892 wrote:
Palmar are you cop with a green on ray?

On March 15 2015 03:16 Damdred wrote:


What do you mean exactly O_o

On March 15 2015 03:50 Koshi wrote:
Reasons why marv is mafia:
1) non commital reads
2) total apathy towards this game

On March 13 2015 09:24 ritoky wrote:
[...]

a lot of people are scum reading onegu, but i don't remember him ever posting? i guess he had to have posted, since he isn't mod killed. he claimed VT...he did that in the other game and was medic and did it in one i played with him before and was VT; don't think i have ever played with him as mafia but he is adamant he doesn't claim it as mafia. if someone has a mafia game of his i would love to see it for reference. i think onegu is lynch bait.

On March 13 2015 13:08 ritoky wrote:
the fact that onegu was at the same place as me on page 100some + the fact he claimed VT reinforces my belief that he is VT like me.

On March 13 2015 13:33 ritoky wrote:
[...]
i am confirmed VT, onegu is like 90% VT, LS is uncc'd PR, rayn claimed PR
[...]

On March 13 2015 13:48 ritoky wrote:
Onegu has claimed VT. Go look at his games, he does this as town (sometimes town PR too), if he is mafia he doesn't claim VT. Could he be mafia this game trading in his 1 time usage where he gets to pull off being scum, claiming VT and getting endlessly townread for it? Yes he possibly could. Is it likely? Absolutely not. Am I willing to take that risk? Yup.

Onegu is VT, I am confirmed VT. Your damdred push is for stupid reasons. Focus on prp, marv, and palmar.

On March 14 2015 04:49 ritoky wrote:
onegu is town he only claims VT as town, he doesn't do this as mafia. he claimed VT he is lock clear town.

On March 16 2015 16:55 Onegu wrote:


And how does it tell us that? prey tell

On March 16 2015 17:16 Eden1892 wrote:
prplhz continually having things to say about the nightkills is starting to give me tmi vibes

On March 16 2015 20:26 marvellosity wrote:

no they arent

On March 16 2015 20:32 Palmar wrote:


I'm going to take these one at a time as I consider them. Thanks for making the links.

First off, obviously the meta is completely awful. I'm not gonna break it down too much, but townJAT not townreading mafiaMarv when I'm in the midst of calling marv scum isn't very telling. Like it's completely unreasonable to expect JAT to have thrown out a townread on marv right there.

HOWEVER, the validity of the meta isn't the main point here, because all that matters is whether prplhz actually believes the meta. It's completely irrelevant if it's good or not.I'm not convinced he does, because it's such a start contrast yet he never votes or pushes it. Like if not to try to lynch JAT, what exactly is the purpose of this?

Still not certain, but I actually don't think this particular point does very much to alleviate concerns regarding prplhz.

On March 16 2015 20:37 Palmar wrote:
Like JAT had by that point called sciberbia confirmed town, and someone else I think too.

On March 16 2015 20:42 Palmar wrote:

No I'm saying the meta is irrelevant. Can you not be a dick about it please.

Do you agree that we should treat FF as confirmed town right now?

On March 16 2015 20:43 marvellosity wrote:

he is voting you

On March 16 2015 20:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:

He is saying you can't compare this game to the game for what you said.
You said JAT didn't read marv town in that other game despite marv being easy to read for him but marv was mafia in that game so why should JAT read him town in the first place there?

This game JAT gave out half-arsed townreads. That game he did the opposite. Therefore the meta you presented is invalid.

On March 16 2015 20:46 Palmar wrote:
And no I don't think you lied. I don't think you would lie about this even if you are mafia. It makes no sense to do that. If you are mafia the fact that you made the meta read is not why. It's what you then did with it that worries me.

Did you not think your meta thing was a good enough reason to vote JAT prplhz?

On March 16 2015 20:49 Palmar wrote:
The point that JAT gave out townreads like candy is a valid and true point. Just like any other "meta" argument out there, the meta part of it was shit and unneeded. You could've just said "he gives way too easy townreads" without having to compare it to a particular game. Your comparison kinda sucked, but it's irrelevant.

Actually the more I talk about this the less I think it makes prplhz mafia.

Do explain why you didn't vote for JAT though, given you had evidence to call him mafia.

On March 16 2015 20:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
This kinda feels like the Titanic game where prplhz makes a really good point on Palmar and then does nothing with it.

On March 16 2015 20:53 Palmar wrote:

I honestly didn't know about this until now. I haven't read this entire game too attentively.

On March 16 2015 20:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I am obviously saying you did this thing with JAT here in this game... So yes, you might be mafia with him.

Anyways i have a doctor's appointment soon so i'll dig up more on this and other stuff after i am back.

On March 16 2015 21:02 Palmar wrote:

that's not the comparison he's making.

On March 16 2015 21:08 Palmar wrote:

exactly

On March 16 2015 21:45 Palmar wrote:
I still can't shake this weird feeling that marv is sort of fine with this game being a bit of a train wreck. Like I can't quite explain it and I'm not going to call him mafia for it, but it's just this weird feeling I have.

On March 18 2015 00:22 Koshi wrote:
prplhz

Vote marv. Tomorrow we lynch somebody else.

On March 18 2015 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Yes i can understand why you do say stuff you do.
I can't fully understand why you do say the stuff you do when you do it.