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On March 20 2015 04:01 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 03:58 Koshi wrote:
It's you or Palmar. Quite obviously. If you want to be a jackass. You can die first. I don't think it's obvious. Why do you? You're apparently completely unconvinced by Palmar's town case, why don't you show me why? And how am I being a jackass? What would you do differently in my situation? Lynch the obvious target who seems really townie and then shrug your shoulders, get mislynched next day and lose the game for your team?
At least you should not lynch the people who look townier than your "really townie guy".
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On March 20 2015 04:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +But it seems like he wouldn't want to switch off me and onto Onegu. I probably need to look at when he moved to Onegu to figure it out, because my recollection was that Fecalfeast moved first, marv moved second, then ray. I can't believe you actually believe this.
Can't believe that you wouldn't want to switch off of me and onto Onegu...?
Or that you moved third? I actually got that right lol, just mixed up prplhz and marv.
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On March 20 2015 04:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 04:01 Eden1892 wrote:On March 20 2015 03:58 Koshi wrote:
It's you or Palmar. Quite obviously. If you want to be a jackass. You can die first. I don't think it's obvious. Why do you? You're apparently completely unconvinced by Palmar's town case, why don't you show me why? And how am I being a jackass? What would you do differently in my situation? Lynch the obvious target who seems really townie and then shrug your shoulders, get mislynched next day and lose the game for your team? At least you should not lynch the people who look townier than your "really townie guy".
I'm not sure that you look townier than Palmar right now. I wouldn't be switching otherwise. ._.
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On March 20 2015 04:01 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 04:00 marvellosity wrote:
it is in mafia Eden's best interests for 3 ppl to be on the table Then why am I taking one of them off? Especially the easiest one to lynch out of the group?
because rayn-Palmar
gives you a lot more chances than the pre-set Palmar-Eden
rayn flips town and you go "omg it must be plam"
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On March 20 2015 04:02 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 04:01 Koshi wrote:On March 20 2015 04:01 Eden1892 wrote:On March 20 2015 03:58 Koshi wrote:
It's you or Palmar. Quite obviously. If you want to be a jackass. You can die first. I don't think it's obvious. Why do you? You're apparently completely unconvinced by Palmar's town case, why don't you show me why? And how am I being a jackass? What would you do differently in my situation? Lynch the obvious target who seems really townie and then shrug your shoulders, get mislynched next day and lose the game for your team? Nobody cares. What the hell Koshi. Tell me why Palmar's town case is bad?
Because as mafia his job is to say/act out a couple fucking townie things? And now he is fucking putting them in a case. Ignoring all the scummy shit he said.
I read all the filters and I gave my opinion. For me Palmar is 100% mafia. But I can lynch you first. Really no problem.
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No marv, I'm taking Palmar off the table completely until someone shows me why his town case is bad. If someone does it, then I can switch back. But I am convinced by Palmar's town case. I am not trying to leave it open for a lynch later.
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On March 20 2015 04:03 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 04:01 Eden1892 wrote:On March 20 2015 04:00 marvellosity wrote:
it is in mafia Eden's best interests for 3 ppl to be on the table Then why am I taking one of them off? Especially the easiest one to lynch out of the group? because rayn-Palmar gives you a lot more chances than the pre-set Palmar-Eden rayn flips town and you go "omg it must be plam"
ppalmar is doing the exact same thing really, just making a town case on himself and then when eden flips town he'll go "omg must be rayn"
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yea that's fair enough prplhz
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On March 20 2015 04:04 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 04:02 Eden1892 wrote:On March 20 2015 04:01 Koshi wrote:On March 20 2015 04:01 Eden1892 wrote:On March 20 2015 03:58 Koshi wrote:
It's you or Palmar. Quite obviously. If you want to be a jackass. You can die first. I don't think it's obvious. Why do you? You're apparently completely unconvinced by Palmar's town case, why don't you show me why? And how am I being a jackass? What would you do differently in my situation? Lynch the obvious target who seems really townie and then shrug your shoulders, get mislynched next day and lose the game for your team? Nobody cares. What the hell Koshi. Tell me why Palmar's town case is bad? Because as mafia his job is to say/act out a couple fucking townie things? And now he is fucking putting them in a case. Ignoring all the scummy shit he said. I read all the filters and I gave my opinion. For me Palmar is 100% mafia. But I can lynch you first. Really no problem.
But it's not just "a couple of things." His evolution of his d1 reads, when he explains them in the big case, looks legit. It looks like town!Palmar here. It's an entire narrative of how his mindset changed over the course of the day, not just "see look I scumread JAT here" type stuff.
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On March 20 2015 04:04 Eden1892 wrote:
No marv, I'm taking Palmar off the table completely until someone shows me why his town case is bad. If someone does it, then I can switch back. But I am convinced by Palmar's town case. I am not trying to leave it open for a lynch later.
so you want to kill rayn and koshi?
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like none of them, even the one (or two) who is town is going to really want to lynch themselves at any point so you can't really call them mafia for looking at third candidates
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Why the hell aren't you guys even considering other options here? (or at least not appearing to)
What is so wrong about it? We've all been saying for a couple days now that someone is playing the mafia game of their lives. Why does it have to be one of me or Palmar?
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On March 20 2015 04:04 Eden1892 wrote:
No marv, I'm taking Palmar off the table completely until someone shows me why his town case is bad. If someone does it, then I can switch back. But I am convinced by Palmar's town case. I am not trying to leave it open for a lynch later.
Here is why i am town.
I have been pushing mafia all fucking game. I wanted to lynch Onegu on D2 and only sheeped marv because people didn't want to lynch Onegu in the end.
You can argue all the way you want how i decided to bus my team from the start of the game if you like to.
So please just go ahead and flip scum or make a fucking fool out of yourself if you don't.
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it just seems more probable the it's you or palmar?
it's not like no one has considered anything else, it's more like, everybody has considered anything else
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On March 20 2015 04:07 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 04:04 Eden1892 wrote:
No marv, I'm taking Palmar off the table completely until someone shows me why his town case is bad. If someone does it, then I can switch back. But I am convinced by Palmar's town case. I am not trying to leave it open for a lynch later. so you want to kill rayn and koshi?
ray yes, Koshi no. tbf I think it's probably you if it's not ray. I don't think Koshi would fakeclaim cop when he did, he has no incentive to do that when he can coast as a "veteran" and win the game.
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On March 20 2015 04:10 prplhz wrote:
it just seems more probable the it's you or palmar?
it's not like no one has considered anything else, it's more like, everybody has considered anything else
Then unless they can show why Palmar's town case is bunk, they better damn well start considering it again
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Maybe you should make a town case on yourself Eden?
I can make one for prplhz and Koshi. and marv. no i can't i can't click "all" in his filter. 
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feel my beautiful biceps, that's why i am town
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I don't really see the point in that. I thought about it on my drive home from work, but my feeling is that what's going to happen if I do this is
"okay, <Palmar/Eden> had the worse town case, let's lynch him"
<Palmar/Eden> flips town
"oops, oh well, guess the other one must be mafia"
<Eden/Palmar> flips town, <ray/marv/Koshi/prplhz> wins, <other 3> are stupefied
I think the far better use of my time is in trying to prove that the other alternatives are possible. Just focusing on why I'm town is silly because everyone has made up their minds that I'm less townie than the other 4. Having all of the attention focused on me and Palmar is just going to lead to us both being lynched.
Put another way, even if Palmar gets lynched today, unless he's mafia, I'll have to do this pushing next phase anyway. Why wait until then to start, when everyone's hearts will already be closed? If town's going to win, I have to start now.
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And what in your opinion is Palmar doing if he is mafia?
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