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On March 14 2015 00:07 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:So here is what happened on D2, at the beginning: Palmar claims vigi shot on rsoultin. Eden immediately votes for Palmar. This doesn't make any fucking sense unless he knows Palmar did not in fact shoot rsoultin, which makes him mafia most likely. Also look at this: On March 13 2015 07:09 Eden1892 wrote: something seriously isn't right here. if mafia has rb then maybe they don't shoot ray, but they rb him, which means unless mafia and vig both shot rso then there's a vet?
but then we have vig, vet, doc. i don't believe that for an instant
if palmar lied and there isn't a vig then we just have to have a doc who was rb'd, which... is sorta ok? but then why was rso shot HOW ON EARTH DOES EDEN KNOW THERE IS A DOC WHO WAS ROLEBLOCKED? Eden did you roleblock me? ##vote Eden Ohhh. I missed the vote on Palmar. Eden voted Palmar because he should rsoultin. But then he instantly went to Damdred. That part looks clean. I did read the first part again.
I think if Eden is mafia he did a very good impression of a headless sheep.
I also don't think it invalidates what we/I said about him before.
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Also I liked your points on Ritoky Marv. Also Palmar I surprised you said you would let JAT get another and he flipped Mafia I finding it odd.
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On March 14 2015 00:08 LightningStrike wrote: Also I liked your points on Ritoky Marv. Also Palmar I surprised you said you would let JAT get another and he flipped Mafia I finding it odd. I don't quite understand what you're saying, could you rewrite for me?
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If i am a medic and claim my protection target mafia knows who i can't protect next night, unless i am lying, which doesn't help town in any way. Also mafia would know i am not veteran. If i am veteran i wouldn't even know if i was shot or not so claiming is incredibly dumb because it does not help town in any way. If i am neither mafia knows i am not either. Which again, does not help town.
Every single scenario helps ONLY mafia and not town.
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yes i realised the first part.
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On March 14 2015 00:09 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 00:08 LightningStrike wrote: Also I liked your points on Ritoky Marv. Also Palmar I surprised you said you would let JAT get another and he flipped Mafia I finding it odd. I don't quite understand what you're saying, could you rewrite for me? If you look Palmar's filter Palmar was willing to let JAT live for another day and JAT later flipped Mafia when we lynched him. I finding that odd from Palmar that just all.
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rayn can you comment on this:
On March 13 2015 18:28 Koshi wrote:JAT voting ritoky was indeed completely off. Nobody is voting ritoky so he is mafia? The entire discussion after that in which rayn says mafia doesn't need to push ritoky because they are sitting on town!rayn DOES NOT make ritoky town. It just makes it that JAT said something really dumb to put his vote on his mafia buddy
Don't you think there is a chance JAT went to scum!ritoky with such a weak reason because he knew ritoky was mafia and didn't think he would get pressure for doing something "right".
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On March 14 2015 00:11 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 00:09 marvellosity wrote:On March 14 2015 00:08 LightningStrike wrote: Also I liked your points on Ritoky Marv. Also Palmar I surprised you said you would let JAT get another and he flipped Mafia I finding it odd. I don't quite understand what you're saying, could you rewrite for me? If you look Palmar's filter Palmar was willing to let JAT live for another day and JAT later flipped Mafia when we lynched him. I finding that odd from Palmar that just all. can you quote it for me?
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I am pretty confused about the fact Palmar reads me mafia. But maybe i should not, since he posted that Eden shit and it was good.
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at best it's really poor style of palmar to just mislynch me in mafia down under 2 (where we were both town) and then call me mafia this game without even reading my filter. the points marv makes aren't something palmar should have missed at all.
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So, two things I've repeatedly referenced but not explained:
rayn's betrayal
On March 10 2015 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: So everyone who has posted so far is town. Thoughts?
This is rayn in the early game. I looked at this post, double checked the first few posts and thought to myself "hey I actually kinda sorta like that observation". So I responded with this.
On March 10 2015 07:13 Palmar wrote: pretty much yeah. There's an outside chance JAT is mafia, but I'm willing to clear him for the day.
Obviously these are super weak clears, but I really liked the starting point rayn was going to work from. But then he responded with this:
On March 10 2015 07:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2015 07:13 Palmar wrote: pretty much yeah. There's an outside chance JAT is mafia, but I'm willing to clear him for the day. what? How do you possible read everyone who's posted so far as town?
And I just got mad. I've wanted to kill rayn ever since. Because he threw out what I thought was a fairly decent observation and it ended up being a dumb shit trap play. Also, to expand even further on this one, here is WHY I thought he may have had the right idea.
On March 10 2015 07:01 Damdred wrote: No sexy qt with Palmar I am disappoint.
I liked Damdred's entrance. It wasn't forced, it was sorta jokey but not in the meek way Damdred enters the thread when he's mafia. It was just a casual joke that I had literally no problems with.
On March 10 2015 07:04 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2015 07:03 Palmar wrote: Yeah you're not even in my naughty topic. Did you just claim Mafia?
I've already explained why I think LS is mafia because of this and I don't think I'll be wavering from that read any time soon.
On March 10 2015 07:06 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2015 07:03 Palmar wrote: Yeah you're not even in my naughty topic. So, who is?
On March 10 2015 07:06 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2015 07:05 Palmar wrote:On March 10 2015 07:04 LightningStrike wrote:On March 10 2015 07:03 Palmar wrote: Yeah you're not even in my naughty topic. Did you just claim Mafia? Woopsie! You never learn.
JAT is the one I didn't feel particularly good, hence why I mentioned there being a chance he was mafia. But I decided that maybe rayn had some sort of a read on him and I was okay with sheeping that for now.
On March 10 2015 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not a miller.
Which leads me to think rayn himself is town, because he made a very smart observation that I for the most part agreed with.
You can imagine how annoyed I was when he turned around and did the trap thing.
I can't remember what the other thing is now because this took long to write, but I'll remember soon.
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On March 14 2015 00:12 Koshi wrote:rayn can you comment on this: Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 18:28 Koshi wrote:JAT voting ritoky was indeed completely off. Nobody is voting ritoky so he is mafia? The entire discussion after that in which rayn says mafia doesn't need to push ritoky because they are sitting on town!rayn DOES NOT make ritoky town. It just makes it that JAT said something really dumb to put his vote on his mafia buddy Don't you think there is a chance JAT went to scum!ritoky with such a weak reason because he knew ritoky was mafia and didn't think he would get pressure for doing something "right". Why would JAT go after ritoky with "such weak reasoning" in the first place? I had made my case already and it was sheeped. If he doesn't lynch town then he gets lynched. Or if he lynches ritoky mafia gets lynched anyways.
Do you think JAT "gave up" on lynching town and just wanted to make ritoky/(himself) good after lynch? Notice that ritoky was at some point (unless i misremember) 4-4 in votes with JAT.
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On March 14 2015 00:14 prplhz wrote: at best it's really poor style of palmar to just mislynch me in mafia down under 2 (where we were both town) and then call me mafia this game without even reading my filter. the points marv makes aren't something palmar should have missed at all. Bolded: maybe
Italics: he totally would though.
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it's easy to miss things you don't read.
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On March 14 2015 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 00:12 Koshi wrote:rayn can you comment on this: On March 13 2015 18:28 Koshi wrote:JAT voting ritoky was indeed completely off. Nobody is voting ritoky so he is mafia? The entire discussion after that in which rayn says mafia doesn't need to push ritoky because they are sitting on town!rayn DOES NOT make ritoky town. It just makes it that JAT said something really dumb to put his vote on his mafia buddy Don't you think there is a chance JAT went to scum!ritoky with such a weak reason because he knew ritoky was mafia and didn't think he would get pressure for doing something "right". Why would JAT go after ritoky with "such weak reasoning" in the first place? I had made my case already and it was sheeped. If he doesn't lynch town then he gets lynched. Or if he lynches ritoky mafia gets lynched anyways. Do you think JAT "gave up" on lynching town and just wanted to make ritoky/(himself) good after lynch? Notice that ritoky was at some point (unless i misremember) 4-4 in votes with JAT. Nha ritoky never had more than 2 votes. JAT and prplhz I think.
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Anyway, results from my last post asking for help:
Eden, prplhz trending UP
ritoky trending DOWN
Damdred trending marginally down for me remembering how he defended jat weakly/poorly vs prplhz
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but why call me mafia without even superficially investigating when you were just wrong on me the other game
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Or maybe some people quickly voted ritoky? But it was not registered in the vote counts.
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On March 14 2015 00:18 prplhz wrote: but why call me mafia without even superficially investigating when you were just wrong on me the other game he's a baddie.
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