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Artanis[Xp]
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On February 27 2015 03:27 Eden1892 wrote: Artanis why is Snarfs mafia? Your best singular reason is all I need, more is welcome Being one of his main suspects whilst never interacting with me would be a big point, as well as not being able to follow his thought process. | ||
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On February 27 2015 03:28 Damdred wrote: It looks like in yoru filter you voted before you looked into yamato? You're right. At first I simply looked at the vote count numbers rather than who was actually on them. When I noticed Yamato I decided to look into him. | ||
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On February 27 2015 04:03 Eden1892 wrote: Something about Artanis's reply to my question didn't feel right but I can't follow up rn on mobile. Promise I will before I'm nightkilled I look forward to it honeybumpkins. | ||
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On February 27 2015 08:24 Damdred wrote: Yes why did it matter that wave and Yamato were town reading each other when you voted? especially when you called waves filter after his push on me crappy? They've got a lot of history, so if I believe Yamato is town and he's calling Wave town with nigh on certainty I do give that a decent amount of weight. | ||
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I guess you could get shot if they're medic dodging. | ||
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On February 27 2015 08:26 Eden1892 wrote: wow much committal very firmness many hard work wow [2] | ||
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On February 27 2015 08:28 Eden1892 wrote: what does that mean that's twice now that you've done it It means second. On February 27 2015 08:28 Damdred wrote: I know they have a ton of history but what does that matter if one of them is scum or not? When we were scum together we did somewhat the same thing? It's not very difficult. 1. Yamato has a good read on Wave. 2. I believe Yamato is town. 3. Yamato very strongly believes Wave is town. 4. I therefore feel it's more likely that Wave is town. Rocket science, it is not. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On February 27 2015 08:34 Damdred wrote: Was that the only reason that you thought wave was town because yamato said so basically? No, I simply thought Snarfs was more likely to be mafia. I felt like Wave's filter could be more easily explained by being bad, whereas I felt Snarfs lack of knowledge of my filter (I still don't understand his initial scumread) whilst having me as a suspect all game long made much less sense. I have theatersport each wednesday, I can't help not being there until 1h before deadline. When I was present I consistently pushed Snarfs after realizing Tormented was not a potential candidate for the day and I felt Yamato was townier. I pushed exactly why I thought he was scum. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On February 27 2015 08:40 Damdred wrote: and where do you stand on snarf now? I'm not sure. I wasn't a potential lynch target on D1 so it's odd to me in retrospect that he went after me of all people. Despite that I can't understand his gameplay this game at all, especially the lack of interaction he's had with me and his passive asking of other people's opinion on me without sharing his own until I pushed him to it, and even then no interaction to try and strengthen his read. | ||
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On February 27 2015 08:46 The Shining wrote: But you didn't always believe yamato was town. You were willing to lynch him. All I can see is a one liner about yamato's EoD play seems townie now and by that, Wave is town. Seems very loose with no flips to go off of to just assume one is townie for trying to save the other town. Reads change sometimes. Note that Wave called Yamato town too and I had a townread on Wave early on too. The fact that they townread each other strengthened one another. I didn't go in depth on why I changed my read on Yamato as there was little time, plus like I said I felt Snarfs was scummier. I wasn't certain on Wave being town by any means. | ||
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On February 27 2015 08:46 Tronak wrote: So in your opinion, who should be our targets for next day? Tormented's still my strongest read. On February 27 2015 08:49 Damdred wrote: whats changed your mind or at least made you doubt the snarf lynch? Thinking about it more critically and wondering why he went after me when I wasn't a viable lynch target. I've expanded on this in a previous post. On February 27 2015 08:49 The Shining wrote: Especially with you calling Wave's filter horrible. I'm a newbie. Help me figure out how someone yelling 'he is town!!" Is enough. If that's all it takes, I start shooting PMs pregame begging people to tell "he's town" when I'm up for mislynch Horrible =/= scum. That his filter was bad did not mean he was mafia, as evidenced by his flip. I saw a terrible filter but not necessarily a scummy one. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On February 27 2015 08:52 The Shining wrote: I know you didnt, hence my last post asking you to help me explain it now. Reads do change but if I can't readily see where and how it changed, it holds as much weight as "he was scum and unsure of how to spin his read so he goes as vague as possible." I don't want to jump to that conclusion without seeing what you have to say first I saw Yamato asking a lot of questions, poking and prodding and being active in a manner he hadn't been yet in the game. His reads evolved, changing his opinion on me despite not being prompted to and most importantly his interrogation of Eden had an agression to it that felt townie. | ||
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On February 27 2015 08:53 _Tormented_ wrote: Maybe because I am new...but this makes no sense to me. You say Wave's filter looks terrible, but stick with Snarf because of one single thing he said and said that Wave's actions could be explained... The difference between playing bad and playing scummy is that playing bad doesn't necessarily jive with mafia objective. I see mafia motivation in Snarfs' way of treating me whereas I didn't really see it as much in Wave's posting, as terrible as it may have been. | ||
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Snarfs still second. After that I'm not sure, there's still a few people I need to reread but I'll have plenty of time for that tomorrow. | ||
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On February 27 2015 09:08 Tronak wrote: GG Damdred I'll take your last 2 posts into account. Promised. You came and asked for questions before night ends. Since today you have been "very lazy" I was actually expecting some new analysis coming from you before night ended. I hope you day play changes, a lot! and besides tunneling Tormented and Snarfs you provide much more in depth analysis on what have happened in the almost last 33hours. If I'm right on both Tormented and Snarfs then all I need to do is to get town to actually listen to me. Have you considered that possibility? On February 27 2015 09:08 _Tormented_ wrote: Really now...you seemed pretty certain you would be around for D2....maybe because you can't shoot yourself? Definitely wasn't because I was joking around or anything | ||
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