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 On February 15 2015 01:46 Half the Sky wrote: I interpreted those first few posts as him trolling you, and also based on this. You appear to be taking Superbia seriously and I wasn't. | ||
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On February 15 2015 02:09 KelsierSC wrote: I don't think you should really be leaning town on me honestly, I haven't taken a particularly sharp look at any quotes I just had my early read on VA because I didn't like how he handled the RNG. Also after the carol game it was fairly clear that just randomly calling everyone town is a horrible mafia strategy so I would never do that again as either alignment. Either way I don't like your town read of me at all at this point. Also my post on VA wasn't inaccurate. I also considered your reads on me in the Void game as well. You pushed the crap out of me based on your quotes. So what you did here struck me similar to that game as well. Point is, that was my basis. | ||
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On February 15 2015 12:26 LightningStrike wrote: She been asking a lot of dead end questions compared to her normal town game. Idk if she is trying to change her play style or what. Old news. Already responded to others on why the questions from early D1 are being asked and how I'm using them. | ||
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On February 15 2015 00:12 Half the Sky wrote: I'm back. Rasputin, in either case, I thought that was what you were supposed to do if you rolled miller. If not, then well, what's done is done, and you, Rayn, whoever else can call my play bad for all I care. The "that" being claim the miller role first thing. | ||
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I have never played with him so I am disregarding meta. On February 15 2015 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: idk. doesn't make it any better considering the fact LS is town. How does he know for a "fact that LS is town"? If he's town, he wouldn't know this for a fact. Next quote: Possible buddying of Palmar? I don't understand as a veteran why he cannot figure out some of these players (other veterans) himself. I have heard in QTs he's a good player (correct me if I'm wrong on this) Now I know BH has been around, I don't know who he means by Robert, and it would appear prplhz has also been around TL a bit. It seems like it could be a way to use an incorrect Palmar read for a potential mafia agenda. On February 14 2015 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like what i basically want to do Palmar, is to figure out blazinghand, robert, and wirh your help prplhz. If we can fiure out those players alignments on D1 the game becomes really OP for the town. I also read further on the post that Rasputin mentioned on the flip-flop. I don't understand why he'd ask Palmar for help on reading someone and then through a single post, he not only is confident enough to agree with someone he previously might have needed help reading but then retracts someone he was willing to work with. Additionally I got a very bad vibe from this as well: On February 15 2015 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: Half the Sky i am really puzzled about the fact we have an argument going on and instead of arguing with me you decide to comment on other ppl's posts. And this is not even the first time you have done so. Like he's trying to push me when I'd already answered his questions. Looking at the timestamps there were 12 minutes in between I answered his last question and when he said that, so it's not like he missed my questions. It seems like he's trying to reach to call me scum based on this. | ||
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On February 14 2015 15:25 Breshke wrote: There could be I just think it would be ballsy for a mafia to claim miller this early because if like 2+ other millers out that sticks you in the limelight because it isnt really standard. | ||
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On February 15 2015 07:08 Fecalfeast wrote: HtS has trouble reading BH's post where he explicitly admits to forging the read on VA from nothing. Continues to do so for next couple pages. Not sure this is mafia but to keep saying "I re-read twice and BH's filter twice" and not see what everyone else sees is a little strange. Maybe coming from a different viewpoint it really is confusing... On February 15 2015 07:08 Fecalfeast wrote: from my reading I have these reads rayn - scumlean palmar - scumlean LS- town HtS - scum puppydog- townlean/null superbia - scumlean If I missed any quotes let me know I'm pretty tilted about losing my last post FF, since you're in thread, do answer this: So you're not sure I'm mafia, but then your conclusion indicates you think I am. That really makes no sense. Not sure if you're sheeping others' reads on me but since that's the only thing you cite, that's quite a jump based on what you had said. Care to elaborate? | ||
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On February 15 2015 13:56 rsoultin wrote: Also don't see the initial townread in Rayn's filter to somehow justify his calling LS town so definitively when he's responding about Robik. From what I recall from digging his filter, he quoted LS on BH/Palmar IIRC and said "townie pass" but the former statement was still too definitive in my eyes. | ||
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I am hesitant to lynch him for that reason, even policy based on what I know of his play. That said: On February 15 2015 11:12 Town Puppy wrote: And I keep commenting on BH's RNG lynch because I don't have a good reason yet to think anything of Vayne. I haven't seen anything to make me think he's town or mafia. There's a pretty real chance that Vayne gets lynched today, so I have to decide for myself if I'm okay with this happening or not. In absence of Vayne being clearly town, figuring out a bunch of townies that aren't Vayne makes me feel better about him getting lynched, because for every person who steps up and shows themselves to be town, that's one more incremental step toward Vayne being mafia by POE. I think you are in a position to at least give some meta-read of him. You were in NYE party mafia with me, I realise you were mafia in that game, but you should have some comparison between VA's play that game and what he's doing now. | ||
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On February 15 2015 14:13 Town Puppy wrote: No, it's not the premise. It's one premise of three (the other two being his pretty sketchy read on Vayne and his relative absence / lack of involvement in the discussion relative to previous games I've seen him play as town). I need to look more fully into your case, but off the cuff, I am inclined to take his inactivity in of itself as NAI. He announced his engagement to his GF of 4 years in the Void game, so I'm willing to bet that V-Day took a huge chunk of his time away from playing. | ||
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On February 15 2015 14:16 Fecalfeast wrote: I'll start by saying that I really did lose that post once so there may have been another quote in there. That said, yes it was mostly sheeping on top of my curious findings in your filter on top of the miller claim which I did not mention Figures I'd missed this when he posted it. I don't like FF's response to me at all. If he was sheeping someone, he should have specified whom he was sheeping. There were at least two different players scumreading me at different points in the game, and if he felt strongly about me as a scumread (from his list I would appear his strongest scumread), I wasn't seeing any indication of him pushing me, which I see as a scumlike behaviour. Never mind not explaining the jump in reasoning despite saying he found "curious" things in my filter. It doesn't sound committal enough to justify me being his top scumread. | ||
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I'm definitely willing to lynch Rayn at this point, possibly FF depending on his response to my latest post. I'm not particularly impressed with BH right now suggesting to stick to his RNG method. I can understand if he was using PoE in conjunction or some other reason to scumread VA, but you have at least a few people townreading VA, and unless I missed it, BH hasn't given any reads until just recently (Palmar and implying on Rayn), which also bugs me, I mean if he were that married to his RNG vote, he could have gotten reads off people sheeping or not sheeping his vote. I mean he really hasn't tried to do anything with it and now I think we're I think less than 12h from lynch. | ||
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On February 16 2015 03:14 Blazinghand wrote: Yeah let's see if you're singing that tune when VA flips scum. Look, objectively speakign the arguments for it now is as good as they ever were. Do you see a better wagon out there? No? yeah, I thought so. BH, that's the same thing you've said before. You don't seem to be observing how this game is changing. If I had to vote this very instant, I'd vote Rayn. | ||
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On February 16 2015 03:17 Blazinghand wrote: You don't like his response to the Palmar case, right? Ok, but are you really more than 30% sure he's scum? Town doesn't lynch scum d1 30% of the time, and I'm offering a 30% scumlynch. I think the Rayn case sounds nice in your head but if you thought about it for a whiel you'd realize, yeah, sometimes cases like that happen on townies. only RNg is pure BH, I was scumreading Rayn before Palmar posted his case, but Palmar's case makes it more likely. I understand why you are arguing in favour of RNG, but do you have anything on top of this? Do you have a substantial (non-RNG) reason to be reading VA scum. What if your RNG vote had landed on a player that everyone was later scumreading for reasons unrelated to RNG? This is what I don't understand. 30% scumlynch also means that there's still a 70% chance we still lynch town. I am not seeing a way for you to narrow the pool to further increase those odds. | ||
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On February 16 2015 03:40 Blazinghand wrote: The fact of the matter is that VA has literally posted nothing of value this entire game. What kind of case would I wrote on the dude? I tried to fabricate some kind of fake case but the dude literally isn't posting. He's probably like scum or something and doesn't want to bother fighting an RNG lynch (the normal scum response) [...] Read Vayne's filter, and read Rayn's filter. Which of these two has a chance of being maybe helpful? I think we both know that vayne is the better lynch here. Get those Palmar stars out of your eyes and see the truth. VA needs to die. RNG has decreed it. So has it been rolled, so let be done. I see what you're getting at here, but what are your thoughts on the meta read on him? Both of you are relative vets, somewhere along the way you had have to have come across playing him. D1, he's pretty useless in general. I pushed him for the exact same reasons in NYE, got him lynched, he flipped town. He was also pretty useless in Void until I flipped scum D2. Only when something happens, it appears he'll do something as town. I mean if you want to policy lynch him, that's fine. But this goes back to my point that you aren't going further than RNG here. | ||
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