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WIll have to rewrite it later. So while we play and I study I will randomly post scientific things in the thread to kill two birds with one stone. | ||
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Will you join us in lynching marv | ||
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##Vote marvellosity | ||
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@ wyle and Damdred | ||
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On January 20 2015 02:13 Damdred wrote: I really don't think that Marv cba as mafia three games in a row especially last game. Part of the reason I see you doing this is to vet his alignment and see if he comes in marv!town. If he doesn't and cba we get a mafia if he does we at least have lowered the lynch pool. And lynching marv is fun I like this reason. Wyle isn't up to date with recent events so he probably thinks we're just doing this for trolling. But just keep piling up the votes in my absence and see what happens. | ||
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I'll b be around watching what you poeple do while I dhrink citrus tea and attempt to understand | ||
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Plus lian posted popcorn and then didnt post. | ||
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Plus lian posted popcorn before game start and then didnt post. Marv or lian today. Ojbections? | ||
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On January 20 2015 06:05 KelsierSC wrote: I also think the opening between Vivax and Damdred was pretty awkward "lets vote on marv" yeh "lets vote on marv trololol" "why do you think im voting on marv" "here is why you are voting on marv" "hey what a great reason for why i'm voting on marv" I also don't like that damdred twice aleady you seem happy to town read marv as soon as he starts doing anything. I agree with this, and I don't think Dam actually voted marv even tho he said so. Now finding the part where KSc is supposed to mirepresent somebody. | ||
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On January 20 2015 10:14 Oatsmaster wrote: anyway damdred's reason is bad because you cant start off by calling someone scum if he doesnt do literally anything. Hes gotta do something to be called scum. The read should be, if marv does "thisthisthis" then hes scum, not if marv doesnt do "thisthisthis" then hes scum. This post is also bad cause Oats only pick Damdred (not Wyle or me) and 2. Didn't even notice Damdred never voted marv iirc, | ||
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On January 20 2015 15:59 Vivax wrote: I agree with this, and I don't think Dam actually voted marv even tho he said so. Now finding the part where KSc is supposed to mirepresent somebody. Oh and this post. I mean the second part is what I agree with. I like your way of thinking. Tell me where ur supposed to misrepresent somebody. Cba to look for it with this fever. | ||
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On January 20 2015 16:12 Holyflare wrote: Does not compute. You either like damd's point or you agree with kelsier and don't like damd's point. It does compute cause at the time Damdred wrote that I agreed but Kelsier pointed out a good different interpretion. So either Kelsier is tring to attack Dam for that post as mafia, or Damdred as mafia with marv wrote that post to get a reason for townreading him like Kelsier suggested. | ||
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On January 20 2015 16:27 Oatsmaster wrote: How about this doesn't mean that the reason for starting the wagon is good at all? I really don't want to play a game where past performance is way more important that in game performance or people are specifically targeted because of a certain reason. I'm pretty sure damdreds post was the most recent to mine which is the why I mentioned it. Dude I just lost a game to marv in Empire cause I couldn't see Dam and Artanis being his scumbuddies. Marv is for me a D1 policy lynch. 90 % scum winrate. Or he is so posty and insightful and actually lynches a mafia that I feel confident in townreading him the later days. | ||
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On January 20 2015 18:28 Oatsmaster wrote: Vivax is avoiding actually playing the game. You know, scum hunting and all that. Dude yesterda Iahd 39° degree fever and was delirating. Today I just came back from the dctorog giving me paraetamol and glucose infusions and freeing me from further lesssons (today I'd have had a suturing course, sigh) I started the marv wagon as policy lynch and as you see it was a great way to get information on Damdred and kelsier. I don't like the way you're handling all this Oats. You're just looking like you want to start a mislynch on me. Btw gonna take a nap soon cause I was already falling into sleep when the DR was giving me infusions. | ||
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Kelsier cause he suddenly started going after VA when there should be bigger fish tofry atm (marv/Dam/Oats). VA is a guy who in his standard trolls games so starting to attempt reading him looks like a deflection. | ||
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On January 20 2015 03:57 sicklucker wrote: I think we should call today push on marv day. Im in Pros - If hes mafia he will concede Cons - None On January 20 2015 04:02 sicklucker wrote: Hes just as likely to be mafia as anyone in this game... and hes like the only one im sure that will give up as mafia day 1 and will be useful as town. I played with marv in two games both as mafia. Game 1 town got marv to concede game 2 town ignored marv and he won da game. Lets not ignore marv Townreading SL for this ( I think I confused him with JAT while I was delirating yesterday ____________________________________________________________________________________ On January 20 2015 02:45 VayneAuthority wrote: sup im here most of the day which is weird, have my first monday off in quite some time. I think everyone should write a sentence about how much they enjoyed Artanis' flavor and those who can't procure an emotional reaction from me are probably mafia because they are too rigid from anxiety to create a beautiful memoir. On January 20 2015 03:00 KelsierSC wrote: yeh it was good Mental note for the point where Kelsier asks people to look at Vayne _______________________________________________________________________________________ On January 20 2015 02:19 Oatsmaster wrote: Im going to sleeeepppppppp horrific bad reason by damdred. For some reason Oats skips the whole marv wagon push thing and calls Damdred's reason bullshit before peacing out. _________________________________________________________________________________________ On January 20 2015 05:09 Holyflare wrote: voted oats, do the same and gg shuts down not really bad reason, doesn't explain why it's bad at all and fucks off to sleep much like the last mafia game I played with him where he just shuts down anything and says it's bad and goes afk again I thought lian posted popcorn just before game start, HF corrected this and points out what Oats did. Tentative townread on HF from this ______________________________________________________________________________________________ On January 20 2015 05:11 Holyflare wrote: why not vayne btw? and jat isn't even in this game? Not sure why HF isn't inclined to push marv here to figure him out quickly. I couldn't care less abot what Vayne wrote and his Artanis story. But marv and Vayne both asked us to read Artanis story while the marv push thingy was going on. _____________________________________________________________________________________________ On January 20 2015 05:15 Damdred wrote: I forgot about the vote thread and throwing down my vote. And its hard to vote on my phone. HF makes me happy with that oats post. Damdred agrees on Oats post looking bad for the reason and for the fact that HF defends with him it. ______________________________________________________________________________________________ On January 20 2015 05:21 sicklucker wrote: Hum too early hf but I respect your oats mafia read More townie points. On January 20 2015 05:23 Holyflare wrote: it's absolutely not too early, you should jump on this wagon with me Why is HF ignoring marv still? Why focus on the VA bullshit so much? ______________________________________________________________________________________________ On January 20 2015 05:24 Damdred wrote: Never to early, and what oats did is pretty crappy in retrospect. On January 20 2015 05:25 KelsierSC wrote: why didn't you comment on it being crappy earlier? especially when he calls you out specifically? Good point here. Damdred only agrees with HF's arguments when they give him a chance to start a wagon on Oats. ____________________________________________________________________________________________-- On January 20 2015 06:05 KelsierSC wrote: I also think the opening between Vivax and Damdred was pretty awkward "lets vote on marv" yeh "lets vote on marv trololol" "why do you think im voting on marv" "here is why you are voting on marv" "hey what a great reason for why i'm voting on marv" I also don't like that damdred twice aleady you seem happy to town read marv as soon as he starts doing anything. Another good point by Kelsier. HE's moving closer to the townpile, but still gotta read why he started asking about Vayne when we only have to find 3 scum anyway. ____________________________________________________________________________________________ On January 20 2015 06:10 Holyflare wrote: I don't think it's bad and I don't see a town read in those quotes - want to know about the oats thing though Holyflare here ignores that Kelsier posted the theory from Kelsier that Damdred was looking for reasons to townread marv. Then he points back to the Oats issue, still not caring if marv is scum or not. ______________________________________________________________________________________________ Posting this part of the game analysis now and will go further soon. But I think town will win this game easily. | ||
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On January 20 2015 19:01 marvellosity wrote: So am I a policy lynch or mafia, Vivax? First a policy lynch, now evaluating what happened in the game to determine if you're mafia. For example while we were pushing the trololo wagon on you, you tried to get people to read Artanis story. So you don't look particiularly good. On January 20 2015 19:24 liancourt wrote: At least we know vivax is town Correct and you go into the townpile. | ||
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Wile E. Coyote Liancourt | ||
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What did she do to make you vote her, marv? | ||
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On January 20 2015 06:18 batsnacks wrote: This isn't a very genuine post. You paraphrased their early convo pretty poorly ("trololol" really?). And saying damdred is happy to townread marv as soon as marv starts doing anything is kind of reaching. That's not the impression I got when I was reading damdred's posts. @damdred who's early vote was better vivax, yours, or hf? This last question from KSC hasn't been asnwered by Damdred when I read his filter. Damdred gets scumpoints. Additionall, after writing all of this Damdred sheeps HF in his Oats vote, so currently leaning towards marv/HF/Damdred after reading this exchange. ____________________________________________________________________________________________ On January 20 2015 06:18 KelsierSC wrote: i'm confused as to what you think on VA then, you think he is leaning town or mafia? This is interesting cause later this happens: HF is pushing Oats, Damdred joined HF on Oats after saying. HF says: Why is voting marv bad when he's done absolutely nothing and is probably mafia? .Now we observe two things: Marv glosses over the fact that HF calls him mafia. Still, HF votes Oats. And marv sheeps the guy who's calling him mafia for the HTS reasons. Oats earlier said: On January 20 2015 02:19 Oatsmaster wrote: Im going to sleeeepppppppp horrific bad reason by damdred. So, HF calls marv mafia and marv sheeps HF without asking him why he's supposed to be mafia, Damdred sheeps HF after HF gives him a reason to vote Oats and get off of marv. And marv doesn't care if HF calls him scum, he just sheeps him. Thus, the scum team is MARV, DAMDRED, HF | ||
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On January 20 2015 20:09 KelsierSC wrote: reason - lian townread you... please explain Kelsier ignore that for a moment and just trust into me being town. Read all my analysis, and you will conclude I just fucking nailed the scumteam. I'll answer it anyway: On January 20 2015 19:24 liancourt wrote: At least we know vivax is town And that I thought he was mafia for posting popcorn and then not playing when I didn't consider tha he posted  2 h before game start. | ||
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On January 20 2015 10:27 marvellosity wrote: Do you think I'm "probably mafia", Holyflare? This is all we've seen from marv since that post where HF called him mafia. No way theye guys aren't scum together. But now that I uncovered them, marv is going full out on lynching me cause that's his only chance to survive this day. | ||
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On January 20 2015 20:22 KelsierSC wrote: viv just a few things wrong with the analysis. why is HF scum, if dam sheeps him and marv sheeps him? why is marv mafia for scum reading/voting the same guy as hf? just because hf reads marv as mafia ( I thiought hf was undecided on marv) I didn't see marv reading hf as mafia anywhere. 1.Cause marv didn't immediately notice HF was calling him mafia, and instead focused on his HTS case that would allow him to get a bad scumread to look like he's doing something. HTS is town. If they weren't scumbuddies, marv would insted immediately ask HF why he thinks HF is mafia instead of sheeping that bade case. 2.why is marv mafia for scum reading/voting the same guy as hf. Cause if marv is town and HF scum and calls marv mafia, the first thing he will do is to immediate ask why he's supposed to be mafia, and not sheep the HTS case. 3. The only thing marv asked to HF in this game was this : On January 20 2015 10:27 marvellosity wrote: Do you think I'm "probably mafia", Holyflare? | ||
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HF scumreading marv, but pushing Oats Marv not being suspicious of HF, just asking him if he thinks he's probably mafia | ||
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Read my analyses, my exchanges, my conclusions, and look at how Damdred Marv and HF will try to deal with the pressure, and if we lynch one of them today, we win the game. | ||
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Why are they hilarious? Are you saying that oats didn't do exactly what he was doing in carol? Why is voting marv bad when he's done absolutely nothing and is probably mafia? Will have to reevaluate later if KElsier is scum instead of HF cause right now he's trying to work against me a lot. On January 20 2015 20:37 KelsierSC wrote: also if you have dam as scum, why does it make HF scummy if dam sheeps him? Cause HF gave marv a reason to to vote HTS (while HF was scumreading marv), while Dam immediately took the opportunity to sheep HF to get off of marv. | ||
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Now you vote me out of nowhere cause you're a cornered dog. Present us a full theory of who I'm scum with. Stop just being defensive all the time. | ||
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On January 20 2015 20:24 marvellosity wrote: Can people not read? I didn't sheep HF. I literally voted HTS because the post I responded to voting Half the Sky, I thought HTS had written, and it was incongruent with everything HTS had written before. But obviously it was incongruent because Holyflare wrote it, not HTS. Hence my instant reaction and general amusement at my misread when I noticed my mistake. Where the hell is the post from HF that made you vote HTS?I'm skimming his filter for 10 minutes and can't find it. | ||
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On January 20 2015 21:01 KelsierSC wrote: I'm still confused why you think hf is mafia. if dam has sheeps hf why does that make him mafia. Vivax I don't actually think hf was scum reading marv from that post, He was explaining to lian why people have their votes the way they are. He was vocal that dam's reasoning was fine. Cause then Dam found a reason, given from his scumbuddy, to get off of marv. Vivax I don't actually think hf was scum reading marv from that post, On January 20 2015 10:17 Holyflare wrote: this just isn't true at all, marv has been mafia and we know he's mafia in past games when he's just done absolutely nothing at all hence why posts like damdred's make sense | ||
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On January 20 2015 21:13 marvellosity wrote: You're the one that keeps bringing it up to push me, shouldn't you know? Unless it got deleted for some reason I will have to find it in my filter | ||
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Found it. OK. Last shoutout to everyone I count as town so far: I made a fuckton of analysis. I concluded HF and marv and Damdred are scum together by observing their interactions. Kelsier is a wildcard. He could either be scum instead of HF and Damdred, but marv is 100% scum and we need to lynch him today. If he actually begulls you all and you get me lynched. I will flip town. THen you go back to my filter, and follow through with my conclusions. Then I will nominate myself for best town play 2015. | ||
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I have no scum agenda here, else I'd just be looking for some easy mislynch, and trust me, a town marv and a town HF are the hardest mislynches you can get. My townreads: HTS,Vayne, Lian, (Kelsier-wildcard), Oats, SL, Coyote and Alakaslam (Didn't post, but PoE) Probably all town. Please help us win this game and lynch marv today. | ||
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On January 20 2015 21:31 marvellosity wrote: Vivax is calling me "100% mafia" when the only reason he had is a lie. What a pro. You're also mafia for trying to mislynch me purely based on meta arguments. | ||
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Let's say you're really town, and I know I'm really town. But right now after I posted my theory you just went into full OMGUS mode. HF called you scum on an occasion, and Damdred sheeped HF to get off of you, maybe cause he was wafraid of pushing you. Kelsier atm is on the sidelines and siding with you, he's not really trying to find scum though I feel. How do you feel about a HF, Kelsier, Damdred scumteam? | ||
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On January 20 2015 21:41 Damdred wrote: Could vivax be town? Its possible, but his refusal to read marvs next two posts right after the post he's scum reading him for is criminal. Reads on Kelsier and HF please. You are just fitting into the profile of scum on the sidelines trying to gain cred by defending marv. | ||
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In Imperial I scumread you, my mistake was not to scumread Damdred and Artanis. This game: When I read through the game and made those long posts I simply connected the patterns of what I saw, trying to reach a conclusion. My next task would be to see if a Kelsier, Damdred, HF scumteam would make more sense. I'm still curious as to why you aren't suspicious of HF and Damdred though, since after I took you out of the equation, you have no idea why HF is calling you scum and that doesn't seem to bother you. | ||
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Anyway, I'm not scum. And marv attacked me like a rabid dog contrary to Imperial where just said I was just being a nutjob so I think I'll retract my scumread on him now. | ||
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On January 20 2015 21:55 KelsierSC wrote: but he isn't..... vivax. if you ignore these "connections" can you explain which of dam,hf or marv have been scummy. Your whole reason for scumreading hf still makes no sense to me. why can't dam/marv have just sheeped a towny? Is this TMI? | ||
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On January 20 2015 22:03 batsnacks wrote: Marv are you going to unvote vivax now that he thinks you're town? Yes cause he legitimately thought I was mafia until I brought up the point that he calls me a nutjob as mafia when I push him, while he OMGUSES ME when he's town. Now I just want him to live up to his reputation and deliver us a scum. | ||
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On January 20 2015 22:03 batsnacks wrote: Marv are you going to unvote vivax now that he thinks you're town? And btw I think this question is scummy. It's like you aren't particularly glad that we're still fighting, which is in scum's best interest if me and marv are town. ts ts ts bats. | ||
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If SL flips scum I'm scumreading Kelsier for him being oblivious to the points on SL AND for being on the sideleines defending marv when we were fighting. Cause that's the sort of thing scum does. | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:24 marvellosity wrote: yeah, Kelsier waded in head on when no-one else did. The opposite of sidelines really. Well when two towns are fighting and KElsier is scum all he has to do is support the townie that has an advantage to get cred for him (marv) and discredit the other (me) for a potential mislynch. Remember PErsonality mafia 2, marv? You and me were fighting and Acrofales and Austin kept attacking me while siding with you. The obvious effect was that you didn't scumread them and instead instantly believed the fake red check from Hiro on me that lost us the game. Even though I townread Foolishness all game while you were scumreading him and he died the night before we lost the game.... | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:27 Holyflare wrote: but we're... your top 2 scum reads?!?!?!?! Cúrrently I just scrapped my theory I got from analysing the game and will see if you and marv, high caliber players, will lead town to a successful lynch today. If not, be ready for a flaming comeback with my theory before the night ends. | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:30 Holyflare wrote: it's quite easy to side with the person telling the truth over someone who is pushing lies and slander though Listen, the HTS thingy was a mess. when I noticed that marv sheeped you on HTS but wasn't wondering why you scumread him, I didn't further read on. I simply posted my thoughts about what I saw there and made conclusions. Later marv said something like "I misread" to take the wind out of my sails . So far I still don't know why you have assumptions that marv could be scum, or not. How are you reading him now and why? (Oh I townread him now cause we both think the same about SL's weird posts). Well, then go ahead. Lynch SL. And if he flips town, I'll have your heads on a spike on D2. | ||
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On January 20 2015 21:29 sicklucker wrote: I think vivax is bleeding town and playing the same as last game. That doesint mean hes right here tho... On January 20 2015 23:38 sicklucker wrote: Vivax how do you feel about lynching the first person to defend your stupidity and call you town? Ok this is actually a good argument for you being scum, cause right now, assuming marv is town, you knew from the start my arguments were stupid, and that's cause you knew marv was town simply cause you're scum. Obviously earlier you tried to find reasons to buddy us both up, so you couldn't be as explicit as you just were. | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:41 Holyflare wrote: Plenty of people have explained this, even marv himself knows? He did nothing for a long time and as the game continued and nothing of value was posted he looked scummy. Then he started posting and I moved him to the undecided pile? I don't know how you are so oblivious to everything everyone is posting and now suddenly you're coherently reading this sl stuff. Also, if you're town reading marv because you agree then why does it matter if it's a mislynch or not?????? Cause I'm a stubborn ox and want e-peen if my theory turns out to be right. Sadly SL just slipped something scummy so I'm expecting my e-peen to not be prolonged. | ||
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You then proceeded to say bats was scummy from the vivax/marv interaction but have "given him a free pass" by not talking about him like you complained people were doing with lian. I just asked SL for a read on bats and he dodged the question. | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:51 marvellosity wrote: Vivax, you're failing to read the thread. bats already said he was playing devil's advocate at that stage. AH ok. Well, do the work for me then. I'm gonna play something else, or studyy histology. | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:53 Oatsmaster wrote: So much misreading. I've literally never seen Vivax like this. What gives? Make a case on me being scum or fuck off. Also nice that you're dodging the SL issues to focus on me not reading things. | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:55 batsnacks wrote: I thought you were studying for science? I study psychology and medicine (3rd semester) I also like computer gaming and doing drugs. | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:57 marvellosity wrote: I think you're saying the last thing like it would make him mafia when it's more likely to make him town No, the first thing makes him mafia, the second makes him town. | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:58 marvellosity wrote: You study psychology? That's hilarious. Sadly not very applicable to thread mafia. | ||
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Except maybe Ash's experiment (if a majoirity says something obviously incorrect, the minority will accept it even though they initially disagree) Or the majority vs minority effects (minority more likely to change opinion if they never deviate from it) Plus some other stuff from social psych I still have to learn | ||
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Just a quick remark of stuff I noticed from earlier. I'll go back to playing Distant worlds until the SL flip and then I'll present you the solution of the game should he indeed flip scum. Unless HF and marv ninja me on it. | ||
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On January 21 2015 01:31 Half the Sky wrote: SL - in general, not scum hunting Lian - he called out SL, but then tried to scumread Geript for replacing out and then his read on Vivax was also out of nowhere prior to Vivax's large case. Bats - generally I've found him a hard read, but what I've noticed this game is that besides a 50/50 read on Kelsier, he's not said too much. Vivax - I couldn't follow the read progression from him townreading SL to then all of a sudden sheeping you two. I was really 100 % sure on my Damdred/HF/Marv theory at the moment. Then SL came in and read me town, so I assumed he couldn't possibly be scum. I also posted a lot of other town reads when I was basing all my reads on the theory I was sure of. Alakaslam is in there too but at that point it was just by PoE and he didn't post anything. Good point on Lian, might have to look at him further if SL flips scum. Bats...Just leave him be for now. But he doesn't fit in my theory where SL is scum. | ||
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On January 21 2015 00:56 Damdred wrote: lol you aren't accosting me Marv is more than likely town, I spoke earlier that his tone is way different than when he is mafia it doesn't really sound dejected and he seems to be enjoying himself while hes playing. His push seems sincere and even his tiff with Vivax looks ok. I wouldn't lynch him today at all Will go back to this post if SL flips scum today. Cause it looks nothing except like a post to somehow make yourself look better with marv. | ||
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On January 21 2015 01:41 Holyflare wrote: This isn't a good point because lian already said it was a policy As you might ave noticed I'm not reading much of the thread cause right now I'm just awaiting Sl's flip. | ||
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On January 21 2015 01:43 Holyflare wrote: I think all your points about other players today are based on "if a player flips x" vivax. It's kind of bad tbh Then wait for what I will post if SL flips scum, cause mafia might as well concede afterwards. | ||
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On January 21 2015 01:47 marvellosity wrote: What would you expect him to say about me? I would expect him to focus on the SL issue cause my theory assuming SL scum flip invovles Damdred being scum and thus right now Damdred is just trying to improve his odds of survival by buddying you. | ||
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On January 21 2015 02:34 Vivax wrote: I would expect him to focus on the SL issue cause my theory assuming SL scum flip invovles Damdred being scum and thus right now Damdred is just trying to improve his odds of survival by buddying you. Like, my theory is: Damdred knows SL will flip scum and thus focuses on posting townreads on the people who are pushing SL. | ||
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If SL is mafia you will call me a genius afterwards. | ||
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He isn't commenting on any of the reasons marv and HF posted, instead His latest posts: Kelsier disagrees with SL. Ignores marv and HF arguments for SL being scum. On January 21 2015 01:11 KelsierSC wrote: so dam, your main reasons for scum reading SL would be the "anger at lian" thing? Followup on this: 0. Does he try to push suspicion on Dam afterwards?No, he does this: On January 21 2015 01:25 KelsierSC wrote: alright. you didn't mention him dodging the question about damd? that felt like a big sidestep Instead of going further after Dam, he tries to sway discussion to HTS to protect both Dam and SL. This still hasn't been answered by Dam. Yet Kelsier feels it's more important to go after HTS at the moment. Trust me guys. We lynch SL today, and all these interactions I just displayed will display that Dam and Kelsier are his scumbuddies. + The way Kelsier tried to buddy marv and push suspicion on me when we were fighting while both town. If SL flips town then..I'll have to go back to my old theory. | ||
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On January 21 2015 02:48 batsnacks wrote: Marv vivax is still doing that thing you voted him for earlier. The only thing that's changed is you're not the target. Wait? WHat are you alluding to? THat I try to find all scum at once? If SL flips scum I'm nominating myself for best town 2015. | ||
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On January 21 2015 03:00 Damdred wrote: You really aren't reading the thread are you vivax? I have answered that question? Sorry could you repeat your reasons for scumreading SL cause I didn't find the answer in your filter while I had Kelsier, Damdred and SL open at the same time. | ||
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On January 21 2015 03:01 Holyflare wrote: I think vivax has actually gone insane. I'm still ill and under pharmacological influence, yesterday I had 39 ° fever and was stumbling around and blabbering nonsense. But right now I feel like what I say makes sense. | ||
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But with all the work I'm doing, all the theories I'm suggesting, all filters I'm diving, I can't be mafia cause then I'd just be looking for some easy mislynch and lurk. | ||
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Did Kelsier reply to this reply and give a conclusion on what your reply means for your alignment or is he still trying to paint HTS scum? | ||
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On January 21 2015 03:08 sicklucker wrote: For sheeping? OKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK. Like are interactions were so weird. You and marv were having a retarded fight and showing you were both obvious town. I come and interject saying your both towns and to look elsewhere . Your town reading me for this and then marv goes "SL IS MAFIA" then you go "OK SURE" So like screw self meta. Look at mspaint where im scum. Ve/hf/hopeless were all fighting and calling each other mafia. What do I do? I sit back and dont post at all day 1 or even day 2. I dont freakin come out and tell everyone their obvious towns as mafia thats pretty dumb. Defending towns fighting each other pushes your scum agenda, which is survival. So in this case your motive was to buddy up both of us. Now I actually believe marv is town, HF's arguments are good, Damdred makes up some own reasons for scumreading you, and Kelsier doesn't go after you but questions you half-assedly and tries to direct attention to HTS. | ||
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On January 21 2015 03:10 batsnacks wrote: marv voted you for making associative reads So you made more associative reads Then he unvoted you for "reasons I wouldn't like" And you keep making associative reads Its just not a logical progression from marv (or from you but that's not the point in trying to make). It seems like marv only thinks your associative reads are scummy when he is a part of them. He unvoted me cause I said "When I'm town and he's scum and I call him scum he calls me a nutjob" Cause when he's town and I'm town and I call him scum, he just fullout OMGUSES me and tries to lynch me, happened recently in a game where he lynched me D1 and we were both town. When I'm mafia and he's town I don't even dare going after him cause he catches me so easily. I'm pretty confident marv is town. Sheep him and if SL isn't scum we will have to reroll up my theory of HF + Marv + Damdred or Kelsier | ||
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Damdred is reluctant to vote SL or we'd see his vote in the voting thread. Kelsier is pushing suspicion onto me and mostly HTS. | ||
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The spacial anomaly pulls people into them. So I'm currently assuming it is a role with an alignment conversion mechanic. I'm assuming now, that scum used this anomaly to convert batsnacks since they need help right nw. On January 18 2015 04:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Setup: It's a semi-open setup. 10 Town players, 3 Mafia players. 1 factional KP. Up to two blue roles, up to one special red role. There may be a miller in the game. The potential blue roles are not revealed but count on ordinary roles. Example Town role: Lost Spirit The void's grasp is becoming stronger. You have to break free before the void consumes you. You have no special powers but your vote. Make it count. Example Blue role: Satellite You're a satellite who detected several anomalies around the Void. Each night you may check one player and find out if they're a Lost Spirit or a Spacial Anomaly. Example Red role: Spacial Anomaly You're a spacial anomaly. Your gravometric pull is drawing nearby spirits into the Void. You can find your QT here: <link> Now to the stuff that fits this theory: On January 21 2015 03:23 batsnacks wrote: Vivax isn't it weird that marv is okay with you using "bad" associative reads to justify your vote on SL? Marv said your associative reads were scummy, shouldn't marv be concerned that you are using scummy tactics to push his lynch target? Batsnacks earlier said that when I was pushing the marv + Hf + Kelsier/damdred theory. He said he was agreeing with me. Then he said it was just an advocatus diaboly strategy. Which means he didn't agree with me (and hence townread marv) but openly claimed to do so. Speculative purpose: See if other scum would jump on my theory and support it. BUT NOW Now batsnacks has been converted, we're dealing with 4 scum. Now batsnacks completely threw his disagreement with my marv etc. scum theory into the trash, and instead tries to push my suspicion back to marv. While at the same time implying that me and marv could be scum together cause of this line: Vivax isn't it weird that marv is okay with you using "bad" associative reads to justify your vote on SL? | ||
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On January 21 2015 03:41 sicklucker wrote: Why would scum convert batsnacks? Your terrible. You know hf is in this game right? Cause if you're scum converting batsnacks would put him in a terrible spot after pushing you. | ||
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On January 21 2015 03:43 Vivax wrote: Cause if you're scum converting batsnacks would put him in a terrible spot after pushing you. EBWOP: converting HF | ||
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On January 21 2015 03:44 marvellosity wrote: Killing Vivax might actually significantly improve town's chances of winning even if he flips town. I've never been this tempted by a policy lynch before (except that BH occasion) You'd favour a policy lynch that gives you zero information over your own scumread? We should just kill SL and then I'll solve this game during the night phase. | ||
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HE HAS A SCUMREAD, I AGREE WITH HIM, HE TOWNREADS ME, AND THEN HE WANTS TO POLICY ME GIVING US ZERO INFORMATION. | ||
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On January 21 2015 03:51 marvellosity wrote: I'll unvote you if you promise to shut up. Only if you promise to move your vote to SL with me, then I'll shut up. | ||
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On January 21 2015 03:50 Damdred wrote: Because you are literally being useless vivax and derailing thread for some theory that we have no information on. This is a normal there probably isn't conversion and it woudlnt' be during the day more than likely. You have derailed thread into something that is almost impossible literally Well I think about everthing. I'm a divergent thinker. I don't townread people for filter length. I look at actual arguments, interactions and possible mechanics. And while I shut up and keep playing other games, can you guys try to explain what the hell happened with batsnacks, his read on me and marv, and the advocatus diaboli stuff? | ||
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Point of this post? You come back from eating. And throw an ad hominem attack at me, prolly cause you're mad I just nailed ur entire team. Don't look through Damdred and Sicklucker even though you implied you were suspicious of them. Still not vote on SIcklucker. Damdred gave some excuse after saying reasons for why SL is scum but I still see no vote from him on SL. Bussing at this point is useless so your best bet now is to ask marv to policy vote me cause he hates me. And I will be stark raving mad if SL/Dam/Kelsier don't get lynched today. So make that SL wagon a stronghold so that my genius will unfold tomorrow. FTW. Good night chaps. Marv, please stop being such an asshole towards me. Rememeber when we were masoned together?It was a bromance. | ||
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And then that Koshi replacement. I said I'd throw a fit if we didn't lynch SLlll (or Damdred), however I can't do that in rl atm. Acetylcystein, Check Claryhtromycin. Check. Paracodin drops. Check. Tantum verde. Check. How is it night and we have no fucking flip? I was expecting to solve the game based on the outcome of that fucking flip. | ||
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On January 21 2015 10:11 sicklucker wrote: Vivax people speak highly of your play so I gotta ask... What are you on man? I want some Given my sickness my doctor prescribed me Alprazolam, a benzo. So whenever I feel like shit I take seractil forte (stops inflammation=pain and lowers fever I think). Then when I wake up I take the whole cocktail again and some more, except the sleeping pill. I'll probably take that one after I went to the Doc today morning. | ||
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Cause his recent reply suggested he doesn't care about getting a clear picture, but only reads the latest pages and tries to find shit to fling on people. On January 20 2015 16:04 Vivax wrote: This post is also bad cause Oats only pick Damdred (not Wyle or me) and 2. Didn't even notice Damdred never voted marv iirc, On January 20 2015 16:05 Vivax wrote: Like, it was fucking start of the game, so let's just do something no? Like starting a wagon on the best scumplayer of the forums. How about that Oats? On January 20 2015 16:27 Oatsmaster wrote: How about this doesn't mean that the reason for starting the wagon is good at all? I really don't want to play a game where past performance is way more important that in game performance or people are specifically targeted because of a certain reason. I'm pretty sure damdreds post was the most recent to mine which is the why I mentioned it. And now I go play distant worlds with my master ackdarian race cause I'm too tired to sift through more. Want a reply on this from SL specifically. And anyone else is ok too. Fuck man I really thought we were past deadline when I woke up. | ||
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Before he said: I really don't want to play a game where past performance is way more important that in game performance or people are specifically targeted because of a certain reason. If this is true he should have picked on me and Wile first. Like, it was fucking start of the game, so let's just do something no? Like starting a wagon on the best scumplayer of the forums. How about that Oats? Oats: How about this doesn't mean that the reason for starting the wagon is good at all? So he disagrees about the strategy of starting a wagon on the best scumplayer on the forum being good. COMMENTS. DO SOME WORK PEOPLE. | ||
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On January 21 2015 10:37 sicklucker wrote: 1()I feel like oats is the only one who hasint commented on me. Knowing that im town if oats is mafia I feel he just piles on his vote so no I cant kill oats today. (2)I remember oats picked dandred over those other two because he felt like dandred was looking for a reason to clear marv if im not mistaken? I think thats why he pointed him out. (3)Ive played two town games with oats. He never seems super into it and might not even read everything. But he has been town (1) This is a terrible defense. Let's say he's scum you're town, Oats didn't take any stance on you today and will just sheep a guy when voting for you at EoD. If you're both mafia though, this defense makes perfect sense. (2) Why do you only argue in his favour here? Why not say "Maybe he knew marv was town and tried to push suspicion onto Damdred for trying to clear marv at first opportunity since Oats knew marv was town all along? (3) Half assed meta defense for I don't know what reason. Seems dangly. | ||
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On January 21 2015 10:40 sicklucker wrote: Hes definitely wrong about voting marv because of past games tho... That does not make him scum. The fact he pointed out dandred could maybe be used later but other then that I would ignore it. I don't understand a thing of what you're saying here. | ||
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On January 21 2015 11:24 Oatsmaster wrote: Like this whole thing right? Im not even talking about in game stuff here. Its about lynching someone for something he did in another game. Oatsmaster what the fuck are you doing all this game. I didn't see you cast a vote once. It's like you don't have scumreads. But when it's about defending sicklucker you and himself seem to be scumbuddies. Name me three scumreads now. | ||
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On January 21 2015 12:39 VayneAuthority wrote: ##vote:alakaslam seemz like good place to lynch if we cant decide on anything concrete On January 21 2015 14:08 Alakaslam wrote: This side wagon of me is hilarious Literally old salts I don't think I'll ever take anything seriously you or Vayne say this game. | ||
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On January 22 2015 00:04 Damdred wrote: Slam is scum, hes not worried about being vet'd or fighting with anyone. Hes way to serious about things. I might be a novice at slam speak but this looks like titanic slam again. I Remember a game on omgus.net and the only thing I noticed about scum slam is that he piled up on mislynches without batting an eyelid while not doing anything besides that except posting his trolly chupazi thingy. Give me other options Dam, who's scum besides Slam? | ||
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On January 22 2015 00:08 Koshi wrote: Oats/lian/Alakaslam My lynchpool I can be tempted to lynch HTS/Damdred but not really. Why Alakaslam and not SL? | ||
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On January 22 2015 00:10 Koshi wrote: I don't see why SL is scummy. On top of that he has an 8 page filter. You should know I hate filter size arguments. Gonna take a look at SL again after posting my theories of him being scum with Kelsier and Damred in my fieverous and sleeping pill induced delirium. | ||
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So while I do other stuff please just figure this game out for me and I'll sheep you at the ene dof the day. Ok buddy? | ||
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On January 21 2015 08:54 Alakaslam wrote: Liancourt One more dodge and I join koshi's. Time to be mocking scumslam before townslam; you SCUMREAD me for lack of CHUPAZI. Very well; but blindness is not a crime. ![[image loading]](https://benziher.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/burning-bus.jpg) | ||
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On January 22 2015 02:46 Half the Sky wrote: Koshi, to add to Slam, again same with VA, if I were to ignore meta, I would be scumreading both for doing absolutely nothing to help town. Like, I don't understand this. You just agreed with Koshi that Lian is scum. Now instead of helping him push the lynch, you try to talk to him about Slam and Vayne. I strongly smell a bus here. | ||
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And I'm diving your filter right now and finding interesting bits that will get you rekt. | ||
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On January 22 2015 04:57 Half the Sky wrote: Vivax, I was answering Koshi's question to me about his scumpool. His scumpool contained Slam in it. He told me that Slam and Vayne were playing different games so that was in my response. Yes, Lian is my top lynch, he was a scumread. Ok. Help me get a read on Kelsier now please. | ||
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On January 20 2015 20:09 KelsierSC wrote: reason - lian townread you... please explain This post. This post is a post mafia asks when he sees his scumbuddy getting townread for weak reasons. On January 20 2015 22:06 KelsierSC wrote: wow SL , Liancourt really does not like you. I also think this is lazy Like vivax went pretty insane connect the dots early but the analysis was very weak and he ignored a lot of what people were saying. Marv pointed out that vivax didn't play this way d1 last game and I get the same feeling that vivax was trying hard to emulate his town meta. So I think it is pretty bad to town read vivax for those points. Now looking for followup on what Kelsier said here, cause he should be scumreading him for this right? Next post: On January 20 2015 22:29 KelsierSC wrote: Going to give where I'm at I like - HTS,oats,marv I don't like - Lian,Dam Doesn't say why he doesn't like lian or Dam. But JUST NOW, right before I started searching, he said he would lynch Damdred or HTS. Imo Kelsier and lian are scum and Kelsier is trying to move the lynch away from lian in some way. | ||
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So Kelsier, give me one good reason for you suddenly townreading lian or you're scum. | ||
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On January 22 2015 05:05 Vivax wrote: This post. This post is a post mafia asks when he sees his scumbuddy getting townread for weak reasons. Now looking for followup on what Kelsier said here, cause he should be scumreading him for this right? Next post: Doesn't say why he doesn't like lian or Dam. But JUST NOW, right before I started searching, he said he would lynch Damdred or HTS. Imo Kelsier and lian are scum and Kelsier is trying to move the lynch away from lian in some way. On January 22 2015 05:07 Vivax wrote: And by in some way I mean he's trying to get Damdred or HTS lynched instead of lian. So Kelsier, give me one good reason for you suddenly townreading lian or you're scum. On January 22 2015 05:18 KelsierSC wrote: I /squelch vivax a while ago so if he actually has something decent you will have to ask me about it On January 22 2015 05:21 KelsierSC wrote: i'm not townreading lian THEN WHY THE FUCK AREN'T YOU ON HIS WAGON AND INSTEAD TRY TO PUSH DAM AND HTS WHEN YOUR SCUMREAD HAS THE HIGHEST CHANCE OF GETTING FLIPPED? | ||
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Koshi wat's wrong dude, I was firmly on lian before going to bed no? Did you change target? Or did lian claim a town role? Or wtf happened. | ||
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On January 21 2015 10:30 Vivax wrote: Just went through my filter with a fresh perspective (ie, I'm not working under my two theories atm) and found this. Would like comments on me calling out Oats and his recent reply. Cause his recent reply suggested he doesn't care about getting a clear picture, but only reads the latest pages and tries to find shit to fling on people. And now I go play distant worlds with my master ackdarian race cause I'm too tired to sift through more. Want a reply on this from SL specifically. And anyone else is ok too. Fuck man I really thought we were past deadline when I woke up. On January 21 2015 10:36 Vivax wrote: Oats says: He picked Damdred cause it was his last post he saw. Before he said: If this is true he should have picked on me and Wile first. Oats: So he disagrees about the strategy of starting a wagon on the best scumplayer on the forum being good. COMMENTS. DO SOME WORK PEOPLE. On January 21 2015 10:54 Vivax wrote: (1) This is a terrible defense. Let's say he's scum you're town, Oats didn't take any stance on you today and will just sheep a guy when voting for you at EoD. If you're both mafia though, this defense makes perfect sense. (2) Why do you only argue in his favour here? Why not say "Maybe he knew marv was town and tried to push suspicion onto Damdred for trying to clear marv at first opportunity since Oats knew marv was town all along? (3) Half assed meta defense for I don't know what reason. Seems dangly. On January 21 2015 10:59 Vivax wrote: No actually now I wanna read why Koshi changed his mind on you and started pushing lian instead. On January 21 2015 14:15 Vivax wrote: Oatsmaster what the fuck are you doing all this game. I didn't see you cast a vote once. It's like you don't have scumreads. But when it's about defending sicklucker you and himself seem to be scumbuddies. Name me three scumreads now. Now after finding all my quotes from yesterday and noticing that Koshi actually wants to list me as scum for some reason I don't know yet, I'll read the thread and find out who got actually lynched. | ||
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On January 21 2015 21:18 Koshi wrote: Oats, why are you so late to the party? I remember you being online 4 hours faster than this. Also how is this guy scum: On January 22 2015 17:18 Koshi wrote: My newest addition to the scumpool. I don't know why I forgot him. This makes it really likely he is scum. All other people are town. Including Damdred. ez town read. You people are horrible for not seeing it. I would lynch Vivax/HF before Damdred. Saw the flip, it was lian, I made a mistake sheeping Koshi. Koshi, you better watch your back now, cause I'm going to figure out this game before night ends. I'm not scum and you're suddenly putting me into the scumpile after posting a very very strong argument for me being town. | ||
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On January 22 2015 08:20 GlowingBear wrote: Final Vote Count sicklucker (3): liancourt, Liancourt (4): Koshi, Oatsmaster (1): Vivax (0): Alakaslam (1): Half the Sky (2): Marvellosity (0): KelsierSC (0): Damdred (1): Not voted (1): Alakaslam liancourt was pulled into the void. The Void's pull is growing stronger. remains. Just looking at the votecount this is currently my assumption of the mafia team. I'm not feeling too good atm to look at all the interactions but I don't think HTS is mafia and would like you to inspect the Oats/Kelsier/HF theory in my absence. Or I'll do that Later when I'm back. I'm 100 % on Oats being scum though. HF has been slightly townreadhing him and hard townreading Kelsier, and I don't see HF going hard after Oats for wasting his vote instead of voting HTS with him. To me it seems like HF has been doing his best all day long to deflect attention away from Oats while the rest of town was pursuing the wrong target. + Show Spoiler + On January 21 2015 05:06 Holyflare wrote: Town Me Marv KelsierSC Probably Towny Wile E. Coyote (maybe up) Oatsmaster (reconsider later) Null Alakaslam batsnacks (maybe up) VayneAuthority Scummy maybe? Damdred liancourt Half the Sky Sicklucker Vivax Vivax This is where I'm kind of at and it's sad that I can't be more definitive. | ||
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Liancourt was a pure town wagon. Vayne is vayne and useless as usual, but don't think mafia. Alakaslam risked getting modkilled and also fits into the vayne category. KelsierSC, HF and Oats all avoided the wagons on townies (I think sl is town) and instead did their own thing). After the NK they will try to push a lynch on HTS, or Vayne, or whatever. | ||
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On January 23 2015 00:37 Koshi wrote: Only the scummers to decide if you need to die. I would see me getting killed night 1 as a compliment. | ||
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On January 22 2015 19:07 KelsierSC wrote: Yeh I quite like the vote analysis done by Dam there. Here is where I'm at with the game Hts is mafia, I mean I posted good reasons on her before, she still didn't do anything in that game apart from accuse hf of bullying her, wtf, rather than figure out scum. She had "lian or oats" as her mafia, why? No pushing on either of them. So then we get in a situation where hf and I are pushing for the hts lynch, maybe hf arrives on it too late and people are scared of last minute switching. I don't know. SL can't switch because he probably kills himself, hts can't switch on to her self but she's mafia anyway, marv was town so I guess koshi is town even though I don't know what the hell he was doing eod. Vivax is vivax. So then I think well the mafia are just going to afk or stall out the game and probably let lian or SL get lynched. So that makes me look at oats,dam,wile,bats..I think In the last game of mafia I played when dam was mafia he had no real issue just late voting on a town despite the fact the vote was between two towns. Here he just wasted his vote on oats because he read everyone as town. I don't know about this. He did make posts to the effect that SL was scummy but I am unclear why dam started town reading him, hts was def town, I don't know if he ever read lian. hard to see dam and oats as the same alignment and oats feels townie to me bats reasons for his vote on SL seemed fine and felt genuine. Wile looked pretty bad to me around EOD in his interactions with me he was defending hts asking the obvious question like "what is the scum motivation" I think that is ridiculous. Then he stalls out the game and asks hf to provide a good argument for hts despite the fact there are several good arguments for her. I'm least sure on Wile but I think the scum team at this point is like Hts Dam Wile. He says he likes Dam's votes analysis at first, blurbs up a stream of thoughts about it, and then concludes that Damdred is scum? And you are townreading this guy? | ||
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Now my question is: Why aren't you bothering with Oats at all? Can you give me one conclusive read on him based on what he has done in this game? Cause half of D1 he was just throwing shit around while doing zero scumhunting. I pointed this out earlier this night. | ||
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On January 23 2015 02:05 Holyflare wrote: I'm pretty sure mafia would be far more careful of agreeing with someone and then immediately saying they were probably still mafia because it's stupid and inconsistent and what mafia does that? Mafia that does mistakes? | ||
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On January 23 2015 02:06 Holyflare wrote: I'm pretty sure mafia don't forget what they say in the space of a couple of minutes If he started writing a part of the post after reading Dam's analysis, takes a break, then comes back to post some more blurb but forgot who actually wrote it, it's a very possible mistake. | ||
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Scummarv in Empire: "NO I CANT BE SCUM LOOK MY LAST TWO SCUMGAEMS I SUCKED". Then when I wanted to lynch him town actually believed that trash and we lost. So fuck off with filter size arguments, they make me puke. | ||
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On January 23 2015 02:12 Holyflare wrote: I literally just don't give a shit because if you ever READ his game and look at the CONTENT you'd realise he's not mafia but you're fucking lazy and only pick out the part I say about post counts instead. Stop being awful, stop having awful connection theories, go back to your roots and find out how to play mafia gain. You need to do this. Zero idea of what you're saying in this post. Marv isn't in this game, I scumread him in the last, he argued with filter size that he isn't mafia. Artanis and Dam then won the game when we could have lynched marv. | ||
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On January 23 2015 02:19 sicklucker wrote: Hf is right. Did you not see the carol game? What are you talking about and why do you crawl out of the woodwork just to say this. | ||
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On January 23 2015 02:24 sicklucker wrote: Your also usually a spammer but you took yesterday off? Comeon. Oats was the most obvious mafia ive ever seen in mafia. Little difference is that I was sick and still am. Need to take my 3rd acetylcystein soon. Also been diagnosed with hyperthyreosis....sigh, and then people wonder why I'm always cray cray. It's cause I metabolize like crazy. | ||
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On January 23 2015 02:28 Half the Sky wrote: Vivax, I hope you get better soon. Sounds horrible what you are going through, get some rest there. Meh hyperthyreosis isn't that bad. It's just that it makes me restless, nervous and gives me sleep problems, but at least I don't get fat easily. | ||
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Unless you're scum and just want to buddy me up. | ||
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On January 20 2015 09:01 sicklucker wrote: Hi. I dont always play good but how does that make me scum? I try to carry your afkness. In carol I did in that game everyone afked I didnt. Is this a policy lynch push im confused. Just reading SL's filter. I find this hilarious cause in his first post he's very defensive. In his second post he doesn't bold Oats so if they're scumbuddies I'll see that as a slip if we lynch one of them at some point and they flip red. | ||
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On January 20 2015 21:38 sicklucker wrote: Marv the pressure vote is doing what I want it to so no your not getting unvoted yet. I feel like your leaning more town but all your doing is omgusing a very obvious town so no I cant unjustifie unvoting you yet. When I unvote you its when im sure your town and never have to worry about you. I dont like how lians getting a free pass here when hes trying to policy lynch a player better then kush. I cant remember. Here he's getting cold feet in the marv vs me debate cause he obvitownreads me and is afraid of marv and tries to move attention to lian. | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:40 sicklucker wrote: Yes this is stupid. I was the one telling marv and vivax not to kill each other and now im dying for it gj town we lost January 22 2015 00:00 - Deadline Sicklucker was afraid as fuck of dying this far away from deadline. 1st scum found. Proceeding with extermination program. | ||
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On January 21 2015 09:54 sicklucker wrote: I like both lian and hts atm. Plenty of time to decide. Looks like ill have to vote to save myself regardless tho On January 22 2015 06:07 sicklucker wrote: I kind of want to vote lian as much as hts out of spite. Maybe more. I mean can anyone blame me? | ||
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Pls, town, remember this post if I die. And now I'm off. Remember to look at this post, and this votecount: On January 22 2015 08:20 GlowingBear wrote: Final Vote Count sicklucker (3): liancourt, Liancourt (4): Koshi, Oatsmaster (1): Vivax (0): Alakaslam (1): Half the Sky (2): Marvellosity (0): KelsierSC (0): Damdred (1): Not voted (1): Alakaslam liancourt was pulled into the void. The Void's pull is growing stronger. remains. If I survive, we'll figure this out D2. | ||
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So, let us assume you are town. Your mislynch wagon is rolling happily with many people on it and you townread oats for ignoring it? In what world is that towny? A townie should have an opinion on the leading wagon and not ignore them. Mafia does not want to be associated with a mislynch wagon and doesn't care about it. Excellent observation from Wile E. in regards to SL and iirc Koshi has this guy (Wile) in his scumpool? | ||
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On January 23 2015 03:07 KelsierSC wrote: wait why is koshi mafia? Reread his D1 in Empire. Read his play this game. He forgets his HTS scumread at lynch time, then posts an excuse. He pushed suspicion on Wile after wile made the excellent observation on why SL is bullshitting and ignoring Oats. We have to lynch SL tomorrow, then you'll see the pieces fitting together. | ||
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If I survive, that is, I'm being universally townread. | ||
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On January 23 2015 03:17 Half the Sky wrote: Vivax, I saw your more substantial reasons for scumreading Oats (besides the vote analysis). You asked him for scumreads. He threw out a list. Your thoughts on that list, and how he threw it out? On January 21 2015 17:32 Oatsmaster wrote: vivax hf bats Why do you bring this up now? I havent said anything about sicklurker recently at all? Why not bring it up earlier? You mean this? Yeah.. I'm town. He votes Damdred. HF is on HTS at EoD. I am on lian. Bats is on SL. SL and Oats scum. Now gotta figure out if Koshi or HF are. | ||
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On January 23 2015 03:20 Holyflare wrote: vivax still has not commented on hts at all ever instead makes even more crazy scum reads I'm conversating with her right now and I have other people I suspect. This post just gave you more scumpoints. | ||
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On January 23 2015 03:24 Holyflare wrote: read quotes, anyone that disagrees with this is mafia or vivax category I've read the exchange and to me it looks more like you're the guy being aggressive and flinging shit. You scumread her for being "passive", she's a woman for god's sake, she will never have the style of scumhunting we men have where we jump at each others throats, are super confident etc. Maybe she reads slowly, is unsure, and whatever. | ||
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On January 23 2015 03:28 Holyflare wrote: the longer people ignore her and don't take stances on her the more mafia you'll look when she flips tonight So basically you've claimed vig and that you will shoot her when scum could have a roleblocker? Smart plays. We will see after tonight's flips what you are up to. | ||
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If HF is dead and roleblocked after tonight I will be proven wrong, until then, no further talk about this. SL and Oats are scum. | ||
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On January 23 2015 06:14 Wile E. Coyote wrote: No. HTS was on lian. If she votes you then you die. The end. On January 23 2015 06:21 sicklucker wrote: Like I was 100% sure vivax was gonna unvote me day1. He never even scum read me he openly admitted he was sheeping and didnt really care. Vivax why didnt you unvote me yesterday? Do you remember your reasons for voting me? Yes I was sheeping marv IIRC cause after posting all my conspiracy theories I needed a break. Quoting Wile there cause he makes a good point. Let's see the flips a few minutes and then I'm going to dig into an HTS + SL scum theory cause of what Wile brought up. Oats is in there probably as well. Either him or Koshi for being too derpy and not trhardy. But I really just skimmed the last discussions so I don't guarantee for reliability. More in a few minutes. Let's see what happens this night | ||
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On January 23 2015 08:00 Koshi wrote: With 1 blue VA could be scum. Explain please? Do you have any objections to lynching HTS after that NK? | ||
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On January 22 2015 08:20 GlowingBear wrote: Final Vote Count sicklucker (3): liancourt, Liancourt (4): Koshi, Oatsmaster (1): Vivax (0): Alakaslam (1): Half the Sky (2): Marvellosity (0): KelsierSC (0): Damdred (1): Not voted (1): Alakaslam liancourt was pulled into the void. The Void's pull is growing stronger. remains. VA in cursive font cause he's an idiot, but probably a town idiot. Don't mind me on the liancourt wagon as I'm a sick guy who was on prescribed drugs and got fooled by sheeping Koshi. People on SL are town heroes. People on HTS are town heroes. Oats probably just the usual dumb town Oats are this point, might have to check later. Now, we need to figure out what all those marv votes mean. Cause they mean he was bussing on two instances (SL and HTS) before replacing out. | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:00 marvellosity wrote: Note how you invited sl to interact with you re: lian, and he sidestepped and chose not to. On January 20 2015 23:03 marvellosity wrote: Kelsier, note the below quote came *after* I dropped my wall of text on Vivax: into: Does this look like a natural progression to you? On January 20 2015 23:12 marvellosity wrote: ##Vote: sicklucker This was it. HF is a lamo. P.S. I thought HF was leaning town already due to how he backed off his Wile push. Ok so marv apparently found all the reasons for scumreading SL, He proposed them to lian. He Votes SL. Later: On January 20 2015 23:16 marvellosity wrote: I do think HTS looks quite bad actually. But I'm willing to let her play. On January 20 2015 23:37 marvellosity wrote: If you're town, I'm pretty sure you can show the thread/us that you are town before eod. So I wouldn't worry too much. I am a kind and benevolent master. On January 21 2015 03:40 marvellosity wrote: So there are two scenarios. 1.Everything I wrote about Vivax is true and he's mafia (as I thought at the time) 2.Vivax is just insane and the worst townplayer in history. Sadly since the case I made I've been thinking that 2 is actually kinda possible. And I don't really care what reasons Vivax brings for lynching sl. I'll decide by eod whether I think sl is still mafia and what Vivax says with all his theories will factor in about roughly zero amount into this. Suddenly: On January 21 2015 04:50 marvellosity wrote: sl might actually be town. Dunno if i can reconcile the stuff early in his filter about me, lian with kelsier, etc. though. The leap from "your omgusing a blatant town so i can't unvote you" to "marv is towniest of towns" was really quite something... At the very least, I don't think questioning sl is gonna bring any dividends, because it's pretty clear at this stage he's not gonna make himself look good from it Marv is taking a defensive stance on his scumreads, AND skipped my arguments for SL being scum. Next step, marv finds a way to get out of his bus on SL. On January 21 2015 04:53 marvellosity wrote: I think lian looks kinda terrible for not contributing today. On January 21 2015 04:54 marvellosity wrote: So if I put sicklucker in one corner for the moment. I guess I kinda have lian, Hts, Damdred in another corner? And vivax in some kind of space-time loop Notice how all his reasons for scumreading SL suddenly don't matter any more. He just puts him into the corner and defends him. And before replcing out, he says: On January 21 2015 06:15 marvellosity wrote: Damdred is a good lynch. TO BE CONTINUED | ||
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On January 23 2015 08:35 sicklucker wrote: How are me and hts ever on the same team. Koshi was also pretty much confirmed town by marv. Plus he wants to kill the right people Hts voted lian with you and Koshi. So it's obvious you can be on the same team. Marv isn't confirmed town as I just showed you with my analysis. He found some reasons to scumread you, then scrapped them, and started glaring at a liancourt lynch to get another wagon to save you. He decided it would be Damdred. Now to reading Koshi and further solving the game. | ||
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On January 21 2015 07:19 Koshi wrote: I don't know. Can you paste me the best case on marv? Or tell me what filter I need to read to find the source against this marv push. Is it Vivax? Immediate defensive attitude. He wants to know who's pushing marv/him. Wile, town hero, replies. Koshi ignores it cause he realized he made a mistake. Next step from Koshi is? On January 21 2015 07:21 Koshi wrote: ##vote: Alakaslam Looks like he is hot and bothered. Reasons? Unfathomable. ___________________________________ Let's go on. On January 21 2015 07:24 Damdred wrote: This feels like a boat and I just can't bail the water out fast enough at this point, (ie I did something scummy in peoples eyes and now everything I do is scummy). On January 21 2015 07:26 Koshi wrote: I am going to call Damdred town. On January 21 2015 07:28 Koshi wrote: I am going to be 99% sure Vivax is town. He townreads me correctly. Obviously, he needs to buddy me up to survive. He doesn't even go back to the marv vs me thingy to see if my push on marv was justified etc. He just simply calls me town. __________________________________________________________________________________________ Now the hammer: On January 21 2015 07:35 Koshi wrote: Seriously? 6 votes on sicklucker? Why? Koshi just replaced in. Marv gave reasons for SL being scum earlier and scrapped them. Koshi didn't read them. Obviously cause Koshi is scum and doesn't need to read what the former scum wrote, right now he just needs to get people off of SL. Next pages he banters with Alakaslam about some bullshit i dont understand, then he links to liancourts filter asking people how town it is. In all of this, he didn't give a single reason for believing why SL is town. _____________________________________________________________________________________________ SL answers to Koshi: On January 21 2015 07:47 sicklucker wrote: Well it started out with a lian policy lynch. Then by 1 or 2 players who actually gave reasons but who dont even want to kill me first anymore. Then by sheep Alakaslam replies to Koshi: On January 21 2015 07:49 Alakaslam wrote: *snipped cause gibberish* Nonetheless, do you agree with marv? I generally did, however SL is quite capable of being very scummy early and proving his town later- therefore, I do not vote him. Do you find that reasonable or is it too scummy of me? Here Alakaslam gives a reasonable reason for not voting SL. KOSHI IGNORES IT. Both Koshi and Alakaslam don't scumread SL but Koshi suspects Alakaslam at this point and doesn't use this part of Alakaslam's quote to review his read on Alakaslam. Instead he does this: On January 21 2015 07:57 Damdred wrote: Actually talk to me about this lian why are you town reading me or at least reading me this way to try to push a vote off me? Koshi sees Damdred asking lian, the flipped town, why he's trying to defend him, and insta unscumreads Damdred for it. Now, why doesn't Koshi immediately think that lian couldn't possibly have a scum agenda in defending a townread of his? Next posts, damning: On January 21 2015 08:04 Koshi wrote: Well I don't want to lynch SL at all. But I will revisit him in the morning. gn. On January 21 2015 08:50 Koshi wrote: ##unvote ##vote: liancourt We got 3 ml and still lylo. This guy won't make it very far into this game. In all this time where he said that SL was town, he didn't post a single argument for it. Instead ha argued with Alakaslam. He doesn't recognize that liancourt was following a town agenda there (according to Koshi's view of the game at the time). So he promises to revisit SL, and drops his vote on lian for no reasons stated except pointing to his filter. TO BE CONTINUED | ||
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On January 23 2015 09:50 sicklucker wrote: Hts was trying to get me lynched early d1. I dont know how marv plays mafia but if he wants to save me. Hes not going to get me in that bad spot in the first place. Marv was the reason people first voted me. He didnt like day 1 being fixated on him. Hts was trying to get me lynched early d1 Early bus, she later saved you by voting lian with you and Koshi. Besides hf who agreed with my initial case I want hts dead the most. Point me to this please . Marv was the reason people first voted me. He didnt like day 1 being fixated on him He first gave reasons for you being scum, then retracted all the reasons, put you into a meh pile, and started looking for mislynches. | ||
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On January 23 2015 10:09 VayneAuthority wrote: never played with that person before and all the cases on HTS are meta for the most part so i can't comment on it, dont really care about things that dont concern me Why do you play mafia? I will request a fucking ban for you if you don't do shit this game. | ||
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On January 23 2015 10:12 VayneAuthority wrote: why do you make meta cases on people and expect me to care if I have never played with them before? I already don't care about meta in general, let alone players that I dont even know who they are. fyi what you are doing right now is more bannable on the rules so good luck bud What meta cases? I'm posting wall of texts of analysis. You are just a dick who should gtfo this forum and go play on omgus, or not play anything except tetris. | ||
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On January 23 2015 10:14 VayneAuthority wrote: Anyways if you want to play a little game vivax, if you can get somebody to claim a blue role then your analysis will be worthwhile. Why should I want a blue to claim? So scum kills them the next night? | ||
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On January 23 2015 10:16 VayneAuthority wrote: depends on if you think trading a blue role for a mafia is worthwhile or not, your call. So you want me to get a mafia to fakeclaim a blue role and force a 1 on 1 trade? What psychiatric conditions are you currently suffering from. Trust me, I study pych and med. | ||
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On January 23 2015 10:38 Oatsmaster wrote: Im not getting it Vivax. Getting what. My analysis or this vayne stuff? Cause I don't get what Vayne wants either. | ||
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On January 24 2015 11:27 Alakaslam wrote: CA needs to take a page from Germany 1: make moar subway for idiots 2: make speed limit increase until it reaches infinity 3: revoke all driver licenses 4: require stunt driving capability and discipline to get DL 5  !??????!!?!6: profit wealth and $$$$ for non idiots 7: less dead idiots blocking the freeways 8: less angry idiots going and dying on one of the many alternative freeways because so mad bro Yes but the driving linceses around here cost a ton and you have to do the shifting yourself. I only got my license late and had to do two driving safety lessons afterwards as well (mandatory here), where you basically train what to do when you lose control of the car etc. Cost me 100 or 200 € cant remember. Now I barely drive cause I can only use my moms car and get to uni with the train. I'm also looking for a job to do while I study. If you guys ever need an italian-german translation, let me know! | ||
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Anyway, Damdred, did you just pop in to complain we're lynching HTS? Cray cray? | ||
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Not feeling like playing more atm. Just kill her cause HF died. | ||
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I'm a bit sad to see that scum didn't try to start a counterwagon on me but that lone Damdred vote is a start. Keep it up buddy! Back to afking. Will read Koshi's theory when I feel less shitty. | ||
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If he were town he'd also have been suspicious of me popping in and delivering nothing after defending HTS during the night. Now he's trying to push you as the next mislynch. My 2 cents.Back to doing other stuff. | ||
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I thought we were going to see HTS flip now. Instead it's the D3 start rofl. So, did HTS flip scum or ? | ||
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On January 26 2015 07:55 Koshi wrote: Top Mafia (reasons given, don't get bullied by him when you lynch him, he is mafia champion on this site btw, just lynch him, I am sure he is mafia): Wile My second guesses: Vivax (watch his play, if his theory makes sense in Vivax land, if he has a COMPLETE view on the game, then he is town. When you are lynching him and he suddenly appears with 1 scumread, even if it is good, then he is scum) Batsnacks (doing fuck all, seems to be constantly up with the thread, isn't making plays, town batsnacks most of the times makes insane plays to figure out the game, this batsnacks doesn't do that.) Third guesses: Alakaslam. Dangerous guy. Annoying to lynch. Never lynch this guy unless you have NO OTHER OPTION. Null Oats. Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff. If he gives a single fuck in future days he is town most likely. But he isn't giving much fucks this game it seems. Annoying. Remember that he looks pretty town because of HTS 85% townreads: Damdred 100% Townreads: Sickluster Kelsier On January 26 2015 07:59 Koshi wrote: VA is my mason partner. It is possible he is scum if there is only 1 blue role and he is the mafia power role. SO DO NOT FUCKING FORGET ABOUT HIM. That being said. He is null. Which mostly means he is town. When there is another blue role except me. VA is mafia. But I guess that would be poor balancing. He did change up his play in our QT after HTS was lynched. He might be mafia for that. But that is really my only reason and it is really small. I wouldn't lynch him too soon. But I might lynch him before Alakaslam??? NO TIME LEGFTTTDTQSDFSD On January 26 2015 08:20 VayneAuthority wrote: eh my two scum reads are you and vivax so ill see what other people think. koshi goes on crazy tunnels sometime that dont make any sense but if vivax isn't mafia then Wile is probably where I would look. I agree with koshi for the most part. On January 26 2015 08:31 batsnacks wrote: Well I hope people do the right thing and vote vivax. Well that was easy. Pieces fit together. VA: I scumread bats and vivax but if vivax isn't mafia then I would lynch wile (AND WHAT ABOUT BATS???) Bats says: Just vote Vivax. ##Unvote ##Vote batsnacks. | ||
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On January 26 2015 09:19 Damdred wrote: I'm concerned you guys didn't read the setup per usual. There's only two blue roles so no mass claiming is necessary and if we have another person who's blue means we have vayne as obviously they weren't mod confirmed to each other. One blue role flipped. If the other blue role you want to claim is a DT we can autolynch Vayne. If the other blue is vayne as he claims then no claim will happen. I suppose it's ok for a DT to claim and give us his check if it means we have vayne confirmed scum. | ||
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On January 26 2015 09:52 Oatsmaster wrote: Why are you voting for bats rather than wile Vivax? I thought he was Koshi's scumread, then went back to what Koshi wrote before dying, then saw bats. I actually townread Wile myself all the time until I saw Koshi died. The wile vote was me not reading Koshi's last posts. | ||
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On January 26 2015 09:52 Oatsmaster wrote: Why are you voting for bats rather than wile Vivax? Is bats your scumbuddy? | ||
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On January 26 2015 10:25 Oatsmaster wrote: er what? Koshi says wile is scum and never retracts that? Oh I missed that it's still his top scumread. I thought those were bats and me. Back to Wile it is: ##Unvote ##Vote Wile | ||
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I sheeped HF. HTS flipped scum. I'll sheep Koshi. I hope wile flips scum. Then I'll sheep the next town boss. And what did I slip? | ||
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On January 26 2015 19:02 Wile E. Coyote wrote: A certain amount of idiocy is expected for Vivax but this? Why are you so detached from this game that you don't even read the day/nightposts? I find it hard to believe that someone who is not aware of the deadlines gives any fucks about this game. Ever since I sheeped HF on HTS I've been detached. I just sheep the townies who get NKd now, fool proof strategy especially since I've been wrong on so much this game. I don't really trust myself to make any good judgements at this point. So you die next. | ||
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Like, I remember disagreeing with HF on HTS during N1 but when I saw him flip I was the first to drop my vote. If you want to say I'm scum, then you also have to say I only inscenated all of this. But of the people voting HTS, I simply afk parked my vote on her all day long without even trying to steer the lynch away. Like, I popped in occasionally to read Koshi's exchanges with you and actually townread you during D1 but now that Koshi is dead you're next on the list. | ||
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Purely based on my D1 play. On January 25 2015 07:16 Wile E. Coyote wrote: This has to be a joke. There is nothing weird about that. You defended HTS based on the HF kill when killing HF is clearly a good choice for scum regardless of HTS' alignment. And now you are even saying you are fine with the people lynching her (like me, the player you voted) even though you are townreading her?! What I notice here is that Wile has no followup on Damdred when he noticed him saying these things during D2. In his latest summary I don't see him considering Damdred. | ||
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I propose the following deal, which bats also offered to me (and seemed townie, but idk, maybe inscenation?): Today, we lynch either me or Wile. And if one flips town, the other gets lynched the next day. Deal? | ||
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I know I look incredibly detached since te day I afk voted HTS and then basically stopped playing properly but if you read my filter you will see no clear scum motivation behind my actions. I defend HTS and post a case on HF scum on N1 before HF gets nightkilled? I post a marv/koshi scum theory while my townread on WIle was still strong? If you see this perspective, after having made so many wrong conclusions, it's simply the best play from my perspective to sheep players who got killed for being on the right track. I didn't just put up a show when I posted my conspiracies. It was the usual crazy town Vivax. And with that, it's all I want to write in my defense. Lynch Wile imo, or some other dude on Koshi's scumlist (reminder to revisit who else HF was suspecting) | ||
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But is it a scummy agenda? With all the wrong reads I made this game I just want to sheep confirmed good town players, I don't even bother with my own cocnlusions anymore. | ||
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On January 26 2015 21:17 KelsierSC wrote: Right but then why are you continuing to make cases on wile if all you are doing is sheeping? You are happy to throw away your life on wile being scum despite the fact that koshi has already been wrong and your reads despite the fact you admit you have had terrible reads all game. Reread HF's conversation with Wile (There's also a bit where he calls Alakaslam possible scum) Read Koshi. I don't care if you lynch me. Just lynch the other dudes afterwards, then at least you have 3 confirmed dead townies pushing the same agenda. | ||
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On January 26 2015 21:18 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Yeah. Please do it and you will see that HF was quite clearly townreading me for it in the end. You are completely missing the point. I'm not saying HF scumread you. I'm saying you were trying to bring him off track from HTS by giving him theories with something about SL and Damdred. | ||
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On January 26 2015 21:22 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Then you obviously didn't read our conversation since I grilled HTS just before the SL thing. Also please show me where I tried to lynch anyone but HTS day2. That lynch was a nobrainer after I saw the HF kill. Now you try to harvest cred by pointing out "oh look I tried so hard to lynch a scum". The difference between me and you in this is that I don't need cred and hence parked my vote in full trust of HF's read and then bothered with other things, without trying to make myself appear more townie in the process like you did. | ||
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On January 26 2015 21:25 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Just read the quoted posts and tell me HF was anything but townreading me. Or that I wanted to derail him from HTS. lol Again you move the focus to HF townreading you. See votecount: I think SL and Kelsier are town (hence bolded and tentative). Just reread SL's filter and he has a really good case on her in there from D1 I think. And also cause he does this: On January 22 2015 06:57 sicklucker wrote: ##unvote ##vote liancourt HTS does this when SL is main wagon leader: On January 22 2015 02:30 Half the Sky wrote: ##unvote ##vote liancourt On January 22 2015 08:20 GlowingBear wrote: Final Vote Count sicklucker (3): liancourt, Liancourt (4): Koshi, Oatsmaster (1): Vivax (0): Alakaslam (1): Half the Sky (2): Marvellosity (0): KelsierSC (0): Damdred (1): Not voted (1): Alakaslam liancourt was pulled into the void. The Void's pull is growing stronger. remains. Wile posted this to HF, again steering him away from HTS. On January 22 2015 07:43 Wile E. Coyote wrote: You have also given great reaons why SL is scum. So just from vote analysis I'd guess at SL being the scum pushed wagon. IE bats and Wile, who are also Koshis top scumspects before he died. If these guys are by chance town (which I doubt), scum is somewhere spread out here (Oats, Damdred, Vayne maybe) | ||
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If Wile says I'm scum, he must also say it's me and sicklucker, cause else that HTS unvote-vote doesnt make sense. Since I know I'm town, that's not possible. And from D1's Sicklucker posts, it's almost impossible he's scum. Example: On January 21 2015 01:06 sicklucker wrote: This is a semi lie. She voted va to save herself im pretty sure. She was checked out of this game focusing on here other game where she was mafia and I was her coach. So hts mafia game is pretty passive and trying to be a peacemaker more then a town should. Heres her defending like 5 people in her 1 page filter I already posted one above heres some more. Giving lian and oats excuses. Defending my pressure on marv Defending me after lian said I havent posted although for a good reason  But still a town should want to see pressure.Defending hf UOTE]On January 20 2015 23:28 Half the Sky wrote: You sure about this, Oats? What did you think about his push on Wile? Defending Hf again Its not that her defense points are not good. Its just thats what she does as mafia. Shes also scum reading and pushing vivax as the other half of her filter. Whos like definitely town. [/QUOTE] On January 21 2015 22:47 sicklucker wrote: Koshi Like I need you to save me the town is sheeple. My lynch order is hts first then lian. But beggars cant be choosers. ##vote half the sky And Wile still keeps pushing the notion that SL could be scum despite all of this! | ||
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On January 26 2015 21:51 KelsierSC wrote: Viva, I don't understand why if you are scum then sl is scum. Cause I unvoted SL and moved onto liancourt. It's the ##teamkoshi post in the voting thread. SL unvoted HTS and voted lian. If SL and me were scum together our motive would be to save SL and mislynch lian. And vote accordingly. But this notion is irrelevant to further explore cause me and SL are both town. Wile and bats are most likely scum. | ||
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On January 21 2015 07:18 batsnacks wrote: I'm voting SL for the weird free town reads and the fact that he lied about giving weird free town reads as scum. I thought that's why most people were voting him. On January 21 2015 21:39 batsnacks wrote: I played with him as scum once a while ago and it was nothing like this. I don't remember what game it was or I'd link it. On January 22 2015 23:57 batsnacks wrote: Ok even though I'm not posting a lot this game I am keeping up with reading. This is my town list from memory if you have any questions Wile E Damd (wish he didn't marytr so much this game though) Koshi Oats KSC Vivax Do you see HTS in the town list? No? Do you see him suspecting her anywhere in his filter? No. RIght. On January 25 2015 05:22 batsnacks wrote: I could see a HTS, vivax, damdred scum team. When I played as mafia with vivax a while ago he said his weakness as scum was that his activity falls off as the game goes on. I was townreading him earlier for the sheer mass of contributions but in retrospect most of those contributions were not getting town any closer to lynching scum. Damdred is saying crazy anti town things and defending HTS for scummy reasons. read this: And I think he said that even if she flips scum we're still not getting enough info or something which is ??? HTS because of HF and HTS's contributions today weren't getting us any closer to a better lynch. If she flips town I wouldn't use anything she said today to lynch someone tomorrow. Now he adds me to the scummers with a new made up reason after admitting earlier my scum play is nothing like this. I will gladly accept his 1 on 1 trade offer for today. Vote bats/wile or vote me, and lynch the others according to the flip. | ||
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On January 26 2015 22:00 Wile E. Coyote wrote: That makes no sense. Why would bats and me push SL together if we are scum when there was absolutely no need to? And why on earth would we keep out votes on him and risk HTS lynch instead of switching to lian? On January 22 2015 08:20 GlowingBear wrote: Final Vote Count sicklucker (3): liancourt, Why would bats and me push SL together if we are scum when there was absolutely no need to? (1) This post doesn't make any sense. It's your mafia objective to push mislynches. What would you rather do as scum? Sit around, do nothing? Two vocal players gave you a good opportunity and you took it. Lian started SL wagon, marv and HF fueled it. Batsnacks poured more coals into the fire, HTS joined you, I joined you, and lastly, you (Wile) joined it. One of the latest voters and generally a very calculated and careful voter on D1. And why on earth would we keep out votes on him and risk HTS lynch instead of switching to lian? You couldn't switch to lian cause that conflicted with SL being his main suspect, so you had to take a side, either lian, or SL. HTS did the mistake of overlooking that, not sure if it was what HF made her scumread though. Plus bats basically only posted cases on SL being scum. What you did I don't remember. I think you were mostly being amused at me going nuts on marv and content with fueling the SL wagon along with it after we (marv, you and me) townread each other. Marv less but town marv loves lynching me in general, we have a long history. | ||
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On January 26 2015 22:10 KelsierSC wrote: And your activity did fall off, you admitted as such. Listen, I'm actually glad if my town meta becomes a bit more lazy and less crazy cause then I don't instantly suck when I roll mafia. I'm lynching Wile or bats today and nobody else. Or you lynch me and lynch them afterwards. Take your pick. Meanwhile I'm still on my prescribed drugs and enjoying myself, nothing of this pharma shit is as good as some good old pot though, I blame lobbyism. | ||
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We lynch bats today. Give us any reasons for you townreading him over me if you disagree. Like, we should be scum together if SL is town, right? Then let's just lynch him. I won't hesitate one moment. And if you do hesitate, bring reasons to the table. | ||
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On January 25 2015 20:56 Wile E. Coyote wrote: I don't really see why bats would be scum honestly but maybe I am just a little overcautious after last game. Damdred is pretty scummy and VA could be anything. Are these your reasons? Very strong reasons yes. | ||
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Tell me why he doesn't include her in her townreads if he doesn't comment on her. He just flat out avoids touching her. Just like scum do. | ||
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I still don't know why people are scumreading bats. He actually has scumreads and pushes them this game. Like Vivax right now for example. And he also isn't afraid to speak his mind at all. Just lol | ||
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D2, after HF died, was there such a big fuss about the next lynch target? And today, that Koshi died, who is causing all this fuss? | ||
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The point is that scum themselves musut have felt HTS was impossible to save after HF flipped. But today, after the Koshi NK, we don't have a lynch mob read on Wile. The bus was strong D2, and now scum is trying to get back their foothold. | ||
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On January 27 2015 23:15 Wile E. Coyote wrote: I don't agree with the personal opinion stuff. The 4 other quotes. Hmm. I don't think it is impossible for her to write that as Vivax scumbuddy but at least the last one would be pretty harsh then. So basically you answer with an inconclusive comment that leads to nowhere. It's just some remunerating on Kelsier's points without any actualy desire to figure out my alignment behind it. Y u so scum. | ||
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On January 22 2015 23:57 batsnacks wrote: Ok even though I'm not posting a lot this game I am keeping up with reading. This is my town list from memory if you have any questions Wile E Damd (wish he didn't marytr so much this game though) Koshi Oats KSC Vivax On January 25 2015 05:10 batsnacks wrote: Ok I'm back now @wile I didn't stop scum reading SL, HTS is just higher priority. @someone I've never played with mafia slam and I've never seen slam play like this and people who have say that this is how he plays as mafia. So it gives me the feeling he's mafia. On January 25 2015 05:22 batsnacks wrote: I could see a HTS, vivax, damdred scum team. When I played as mafia with vivax a while ago he said his weakness as scum was that his activity falls off as the game goes on. I was townreading him earlier for the sheer mass of contributions but in retrospect most of those contributions were not getting town any closer to lynching scum. Damdred is saying crazy anti town things and defending HTS for scummy reasons. read this: And I think he said that even if she flips scum we're still not getting enough info or something which is ??? HTS because of HF and HTS's contributions today weren't getting us any closer to a better lynch. If she flips town I wouldn't use anything she said today to lynch someone tomorrow. This is bats posting me and Dam as town and then posting a theory without SL in it 12 minutes after saying he' still scumreading him. This one was easy. | ||
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On January 27 2015 23:53 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Bullshit. I just think his argument is inconclusive. And your argument for reading me any way is? You're not doing jackshit except trying to discredit kelsiers post cause it's so full of truthness. | ||
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On January 28 2015 00:00 Wile E. Coyote wrote: I just posted something about you a few minutes ago. And I am certainly not discrediting anything Kelsier says I am just giving my opinion on it. If you really want to misrepresent me that badly then at least try a little. I don't think it is impossible for her to write that as Vivax scumbuddy but at least the last one would be pretty harsh then. And that means? | ||
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On January 28 2015 00:03 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Are you telling me it is impossible to have more than 3 scumreads? Or to be open to other possibilities? Because if you aren't then I don't see your point. Ther are two scum left. Clear case: You and bats. You can have more as that is in your best interest cause you need many options for mislynches. | ||
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On January 25 2015 05:10 batsnacks wrote: @wile I didn't stop scum reading SL, HTS is just higher priority On January 25 2015 05:22 batsnacks wrote: I could see a HTS, vivax, damdred scum team. U see SL is in his scumteam???? After seeing THIS you ignore it and prefer your bats townread? This one is in the bag. YOu shitters can concede. | ||
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Lynch me, see I'm town. Then lynch Wile and bats. I don't bother anymore. ##Unvote ##Vote Vivax | ||
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Wile just doesn't do jack. He only plays reactionary. He doesn't push a scumread, he only comments on cases he sees. Kill me and then kill them. ##Vote Vivax GOGOGOGOGO | ||
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On January 28 2015 00:47 KelsierSC wrote: Fine fuck you vivax ## vote vivax Will you actually vote wile and bats afterwards? | ||
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So do it, kill me. Get me out of the equation and solve the game. | ||
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On January 28 2015 00:49 batsnacks wrote: Oats said Wile and Vivax were mafia last night when koshi was alve.... Then when koshi dies and is confirmed town oats mysteriously starts town reading Vivax. Just noticed that I don't know why oats is town reading Vivax. Shut up and vote me, scum. | ||
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On January 28 2015 00:50 Wile E. Coyote wrote: This is not how this game works Vivax. It fucking works this way. Koshi died scumreading you, bats me and me. I will die scumreading bats and you. So kill me and get #rekt | ||
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Whatever. You will be not sheeping 2 confirmed tons afterwards which makes you horrible. And spoiled child? Go fuck yourself. | ||
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On January 28 2015 00:56 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Can't decide if Vivax just throws a tantrum because he is getting lynched as mafia or because he actually believes the horseshit he says. i believe the horseshit. Except its not horseshit. Sheep me and Koshi after we both flipped town. | ||
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Anyway, replyning to some stuff while drinking some more: On January 28 2015 01:32 KelsierSC wrote: Lol vivax. Make sure you unvote yourself Twonie reply. On January 28 2015 01:34 VayneAuthority wrote: alright ill vote damdred with you kelsier we'll see what happens ##vote damdred Null reply, I think Amdred is not scum for not trying to look more townie in the eventualtiy of an HTS flip. Wile again trying to cover his bats scumbuddy. On January 28 2015 01:40 batsnacks wrote: Vivax is so scummy it hurts. He wants us to lynch him and sheep koshi when if he's town that will mean koshi was wrong. So instead of playing the game, if Vivax is town, he wants us to sheep someone who he knows is wrong. That doesn't even make sense in Vivax land which is EXACTLY what koshi said to check. How is anyone not voting him? Koshi was weong on me, not on Bats and Wile. Push me, see my town flip. Get lynched. On January 28 2015 01:42 Wile E. Coyote wrote: You are right - it makes zero sense. But it is also a really bad strategy as scum. Reply to his scumbuddy saying that for me it's a bad strategy if I'm scum. Still no commment on bats forgetting his SL scumread. On January 28 2015 01:44 batsnacks wrote: It is -much- worse to do this as town, especially since "nut job town" has been the angle Vivax has been going for all game. Fine, lynch me. See I'm town. Then get rekt. On January 28 2015 01:48 Wile E. Coyote wrote: It is horrible - there is no debate about it. But is it more likely for Vivax to go apeshit as town or scum? Why even bother if he is going to be lynched anyways as mafia? I'm going apeshit as both alignments. So bring arguments to the table for me being one of them, cause right now you're doing neither. | ||
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I'm also drunk as fuck. Anything I should be consdering bros? | ||
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he said something like ya "cant remeber". | ||
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I'm scum, lynch me pls. | ||
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On January 28 2015 02:05 VayneAuthority wrote: well I was reading vivax filter and I can't see him making this post as scum Thx man! No worries cause i'm town. I don't even care about blues this game. 'm just plain Vinall town. Not sure if I can post role pm. | ||
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On January 28 2015 02:54 batsnacks wrote: Don't listen to Damdred he doesn't know what he's talking about. You can definitely post a screen shot of your role PM to confirm yourself. Cheating: Cheating includes (but is not limited to): 1. Posting after death. You may have one polite goodbye post, but it may not contain any potentially game-changing information. 2. Ruining the game by doing something like hand out your mafia's member list to the town. 3. Logging on to someone else's account to get their role or looking over someone's shoulder to get their role. 4. Comparing role PM times to determine roles. 5. Posting screenshots of your inbox. 6. Posting or sharing any PM you receive from a host. Batsnacks even more confirmed scum for trying to get myself modkilled. | ||
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Wile and bats. Instead you voted Damdred when I said he wouldn't look himself look that bad as mafia. Surprise surprise. Wile an snacks both on Damdred. | ||
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But trust me theyre the two scum. Kelsier will be NK today as he most likely would listen to me. | ||
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On January 28 2015 10:26 sicklucker wrote: ahhh vivax didnt you vote dandred? I voted myself, then played some dota, got drunk and went to sleep. Got woken up now by someone I dont want to talk about. Anyway it's WIle + bats. Don't get fooled. I posted a good case on bats as well and Wile is covering his back. Plus Koshi scumread both of them.Plus Wile tried to bring HF off track from HTS during N1. | ||
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Just in case you die and not me. Cause that guy is never getting NKd. | ||
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On January 29 2015 05:23 Wile E. Coyote wrote: You think I should be lynched because someone who had far less information about this game than you have now died with a scumread on me earlier in the game? The same guy who had a scumread just like that when he died last game (the game you hosted btw.) and was wrong? Who was also wrong on all of his other scumreads? A guy who religiously scumreads me when we are both town in almost every game we play together? There are 4 townies that died in this game so far and he is the only one who scumread me btw. Tell me slam, who am I with? And regardless of that - why would I even bother doing what I did yesterday? Give me any reason why YOU think I am mafia. Defend yourself more. You kill of me/slam/SL tonight. Then you die anyway. SL/slam/me all scumreading you and you have kept waffling on bats for too long for you to be able to say "it's impossible we're scum together" (nice mindset btw) | ||
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On January 29 2015 05:32 Wile E. Coyote wrote: I never ever waffled on bats. I confidently called him town. Then how can you say you couldnt be scum together, as that is what scum should do? | ||
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On January 29 2015 09:19 sicklucker wrote: Vivax is so town tho bats. Like the way hes voted to marty himself is just crazy if hes mafia. He says a bats/wile team makes so much sense and I kind of agree Man dude you relieve me so much. I was playing with the thought of you + Kelsier. But this post gives me hope. I'm drunk again and as usual playing techies in dota. AMA. I stilll stick to my theory that it's wile + bats. | ||
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I think we should kill bats and wile. Wile said bats making me modkill myself would have been protown and Koshi scumread both of them (Yes he scumread me too but he's wrong on that). We're now into D3?D4? Wile and bats still alive. even though the claim to be so pro town. I wasn't even sure VA was blue so now we know scum has a red role left. | ||
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Not sure whato to make of it. | ||
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On January 30 2015 01:32 batsnacks wrote: I can't believe I'm the only person voting Vivax. He has: Avoided contributing by acting crazy and incompetent Sabotaged the thread by acting crazy and incompetent Pushed people for made up reasons Never defended himself by actually trying to contribute Tried to appear as useless Self voted, martyred Pushed people for more made up reasons Claimed mafia Vivax himself admitted that there is a good case for this being his scum meta Its gotten to the point where I feel like it's pointless to point out more scummy things about him because if what he's already done isn't scummy enough to get lynched then nothing will ever be enough. ##Vote batsnacks You die, then Wile dies. GG no re. | ||
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On January 28 2015 02:05 VayneAuthority wrote: well I was reading vivax filter and I can't see him making this post as scum And I NK this dude? I wasn't even sure he was town rofl. | ||
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On January 26 2015 08:20 VayneAuthority wrote: eh my two scum reads are you and vivax so ill see what other people think. koshi goes on crazy tunnels sometime that dont make any sense but if vivax isn't mafia then Wile is probably where I would look. I agree with koshi for the most part. 2 NKs 1 scumread me,bats and wile 1 scumread bats, wile and townread me How much more do you need to know? Just look at who scum wants out of the way. I've been pushing Koshi's reads all game long. You didn't and killed Damdred, cause you just can't see that bats + wile are scum. | ||
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On January 30 2015 01:57 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Anyone would kill him. He was confirmed town. Only mafia would think this. | ||
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Oats, SL, Kelsier. Vote Wile with me. Then bats concedes. Or the other way around I don't care. | ||
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On January 30 2015 02:01 batsnacks wrote: Yeah rofl XD The uncced mason who was verified by his partner flipped town Rofl XD What an unexpected turn of events Rofl XD On January 30 2015 02:02 Wile E. Coyote wrote: What kind of bullshit is this? If we had another blue he would have fucking counterclaimed. We would have never lynched VA so regardless of who the scumteam is he is a good kill. On January 26 2015 07:59 Koshi wrote: VA is my mason partner. It is possible he is scum if there is only 1 blue role and he is the mafia power role. SO DO NOT FUCKING FORGET ABOUT HIM. That being said. He is null. Which mostly means he is town. When there is another blue role except me. VA is mafia. But I guess that would be poor balancing. He did change up his play in our QT after HTS was lynched. He might be mafia for that. But that is really my only reason and it is really small. I wouldn't lynch him too soon. But I might lynch him before Alakaslam??? NO TIME LEGFTTTDTQSDFSD Only you and bats could know he was mason for sure. And if a cop or medic was in the game, which a townie doesnt know, then he wouldn't necessarily CC Vayne before getting more information. You and bats see Vayne as confirmed cause you have the scum PoV. Knowing that the only 2 blues were masons. | ||
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On January 30 2015 02:06 Alakaslam wrote: If oats flips town, we follow his lead because it's the small but persistent voice. Pls vote wile or bats with me man | ||
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On January 30 2015 02:11 Alakaslam wrote: If oats is town I do this 100% Lynch today is Oats or Coyote. Whomever garners more votes I will also vote. If coyote is scum, I assume bats is last. If he is town, I assume Vivax/oats team. Ok I'm going for the coyote then. Just sheep Koshi and Vayne man, they died for a reason. Can I have your vote on Wile pls? ##Unvote ##Vote Wile E. Scum | ||
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On January 30 2015 07:54 sicklucker wrote: Hum oh you switched to wile. Well ill vote wile with you tomorrow I think hes the better mathematical lynch. Wiles not with alot of people but he is very scummy Why do you think he's scummy. | ||
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On January 30 2015 09:49 sicklucker wrote: Wile is like only with bats/slam He cant be with you or oats. Oats can be with anyone. Bats can be with anyone Okay. I guess that makes sense as mathematical (lol). Now 2 of the NKs scumread Wile, none scumread Oats iirc. Hence we should lynch Wile. Mathematical enough? I'd agree on lynching bats but I have a Wile + Alakaslam paranoia after seeing Alakaslam vote Oats with Wile. | ||
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On January 30 2015 10:10 Oatsmaster wrote: ergh this scumteam talk by sl makes me feel icky. There is not enough close to enough information to guess scumteams. Excuse me? 2 NKs with all the same scumreads, I guess you don't read the thread? Was Vayne confirmed town to you? | ||
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On January 30 2015 19:45 KelsierSC wrote: ## vote oatsmaster Good contribution. Also the only for today. | ||
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On January 31 2015 00:25 Oatsmaster wrote: Im thinking man. ##vote Bats What do you expect? Can you explain your vote. | ||
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So it's back to Wile and snacks for me. On January 31 2015 08:02 Wile E. Coyote wrote: A performance like this should be banworthy 100 %. Indeed. | ||
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Might swap him one of bats or Wyle. Ugh. Idk | ||
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I went through batsnacks filter again to be sure but he is playing his towngame. And there is also the day3 lynch which basically confirms him as town to me. There is absolutely no reason for him to try to hammer oats over damdred when Vayne is on damdred (if Kelsier is town this argument is even stronger). He is my only good townread. Bats has the smallest filter so far. And your argument is really weak. Bats been doing nothing this game. He's in the Otats cageory but he's plaing to his wincon. U 2 r scum | ||
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Wile a while back you said I'm gonna scumread you again for pushing nonsense, what happened to that. Why am isupposed to be scum. P.S I'm town, Vanilla town, I can also post role name | ||
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On February 02 2015 22:24 sicklucker wrote: If its not you bats. The only other world I see is wile/slam. Which makes sense since slam has town read wile all game when no one else agreed Wrong. Just last day he agreed on voting WIle with me, but didn't answert to my request and parked on Otas. | ||
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On February 02 2015 09:19 Alakaslam wrote: wait wtf? JAT could actually just be a hypocrite jackass but this is clearly scum We don't have rolenames Oh and this. I was wasted again yesterday and didn't think that some VT'S already flipped. BUt we do have rolenames, why doesn't slam know this? | ||
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On February 02 2015 23:05 batsnacks wrote: how about instead of summarizing stuff that happened 3 days ago and making excuses you actually do something e.g. Get real reads? Yeah in 1 or h hours, I Wanna finish that DW game now. | ||
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liancourt, the Lost Spirit was swallowed by the void. I'm here now. This is the VT role name. I can't post it from the host PM but I can show you I have a role name from the flips. ANd it's this one. | ||
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On February 02 2015 23:24 Alakaslam wrote: We may have them but we don't know them. We aren't sent them. You do not have a town PM With this you just flipped up the scum charts | ||
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This is my name too, and it#s not from my inbox so it's not cheating. Slam didn't know this and he isn't blue. Slam claimed scum. | ||
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On February 03 2015 02:02 batsnacks wrote: Yeah slam looks awful. Makes me wish Vivax didn't look worse. Well I'm town and you're prolly scum so waiting for SL and Wile to give me their opinion. | ||
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##Vote Alakaslam He's not VT cause he would have known his role name as a VT and is trying to push mislynch on me. Easy lynch today | ||
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Dude Alakaslam just scuslipped. He tried to push a lynch on me saying I can't havea town role name cause he didn't get one. I'm saying town now by voting the obvious scum. Join me in my efforts or justify why not. | ||
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On February 03 2015 03:37 batsnacks wrote: I considered it before slam "slipped" but Vivax isn't making it easy. Earlier he said he was going to come up with reasons why I'm scum but just dropped it (again) and now there's this slam stuff. I think that's twice today he's said he'd deliver on something and just dodges. I delivered you slam slipping he's not town and you say I dodge. I want your vote on slam but thats gonna be tough for you, it's just you two left. | ||
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On February 03 2015 03:49 batsnacks wrote: No Vivax being scummier makes me less likely to lynch slam. Slam slipped he's scum he can't be scummier than me. | ||
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On February 03 2015 03:52 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Yeah, you pushing him tbh. I don't know what to make of this rolename shit and would like to hear an explanation from him. Then just assume we're scum together for today and vote me with him? | ||
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On February 03 2015 03:53 batsnacks wrote: Why do you care Vivax? You think I'm mafia you don't even need my vote if you're town right? Cause you do your best to mislynch me and save Slam and I want you to force a bus. | ||
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I played badly all game long by following the NKs but I'm not scum and you're the only chance to stop the bats + SLam team | ||
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On February 03 2015 03:56 Wile E. Coyote wrote: I still have a few hours to decide who to vote fortunately. And since there is basically no way that you and slam are both town we won't lose even if you are town and have to leave soon. I'm town dude. TOWN. I'm sorry for pissing you off but a scum just slipped that he's not town, I need your vote on slam and to do leverage on SL when he's back cause I'm sleepy as fuck atm. | ||
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On February 03 2015 03:58 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Slam might be scum but I don't see him being with bats at all. If you are town he is probably with SL. We will work on that theory after lynching the obvious scum. OK? | ||
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And when SL is around check how he and bats interact. | ||
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On February 03 2015 04:00 batsnacks wrote: I'm not unvoting. Vivax changes his reads every time it's convenient this is ridiculous. If I were convenient I'd have tried to push you together with SL but I didn't. My argument on Slam is genuine and 100 % correct. I found a scumslip in SLam and am now trying t save this game by pushing town to vote for him. So let's hope SL comes back at EoD and reads all this shit. | ||
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Please help me at EoD cause I'll be in bed. | ||
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On February 03 2015 04:07 batsnacks wrote: This is where Vivax admits he was scum reading me because it was convenient. No, this is where I uncovered your scumbuddy and if I scumread you cause it was convenient I wouldn't have uncovered Slam's scumsliip, I would have pushed you with other arguments. But being the VT I am I found a confirmed scum and now you try to save the situation for your team. [redALAKASLAM[/red] bats (Or just really stupid) SL Revisit after Slam flip. Trust me, Kaslam scum. | ||
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On February 03 2015 04:10 Wile E. Coyote wrote: I could easily see scum being SL and slam and that's the problem. I doubt bats is town cause he doesn't adapt to the new Information I presented or figure out my alignment, he's just taking full advantage of the fact that I tunneled you all game long. YOur townread on bats is wrong. And town bats couldn't be this stupid. He's only trying his best to get people to lynch SLam and not me. | ||
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His agenda today is lynch me, save slam, and ignore the argument that slam scumslipped. GUYS IF WE LYNCH SLAM BATS CONCEDES AND WE WON. | ||
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But now Alakaslam fucking scumslipped and I need your support. Can you give me blessing of going to bed. | ||
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Brb buying alcohol | ||
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We're about to win. Just keep a close eye on bats, your townread on him is wrong. | ||
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On January 21 2015 07:29 batsnacks wrote: @Wile what do you think about slam? No idea why he mentioned this as before he was concerned with other stuff. TMI stuff I guess. On January 21 2015 21:39 batsnacks wrote: I played with him as scum once a while ago and it was nothing like this. I don't remember what game it was or I'd link it. ANother proof he's trying to mislynch me this game. On January 22 2015 23:57 batsnacks wrote: Ok even though I'm not posting a lot this game I am keeping up with reading. This is my town list from memory if you have any questions Wile E Damd (wish he didn't marytr so much this game though) Koshi Oats KSC Vivax Reaffirms his townreads. Note how Alaaslam isn't in it but previously at this point in the game he was only pushing SL. He does never hard scumread Alakaslam. Later: On January 24 2015 12:03 batsnacks wrote: I suddenly feel that slam is mafia. On January 25 2015 05:10 batsnacks wrote: Ok I'm back now @wile I didn't stop scum reading SL, HTS is just higher priority. @someone I've never played with mafia slam and I've never seen slam play like this and people who have say that this is how he plays as mafia. So it gives me the feeling he's mafia. And the next one is damning: Alakaslam doesn't appear in his scumteam. He has been soft burring previously but cause he can't lynch him he simply doesn't include him in the possibilities. On January 25 2015 05:22 batsnacks wrote: I could see a HTS, vivax, damdred scum team. When I played as mafia with vivax a while ago he said his weakness as scum was that his activity falls off as the game goes on. I was townreading him earlier for the sheer mass of contributions but in retrospect most of those contributions were not getting town any closer to lynching scum. Damdred is saying crazy anti town things and defending HTS for scummy reasons. read this: And I think he said that even if she flips scum we're still not getting enough info or something which is ??? HTS because of HF and HTS's contributions today weren't getting us any closer to a better lynch. If she flips town I wouldn't use anything she said today to lynch someone tomorrow. | ||
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On February 03 2015 05:12 batsnacks wrote: Why isn't slam saying anything ?!?!?!?? This is oats all over again. Yes now you try to make the scumlynch look like yesterday's town lynch, good strat. | ||
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Anyway my little quote collection shows it's bats and alakaslam | ||
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On February 02 2015 23:46 batsnacks wrote: I have a role name? Like bats posted this right after Alakaslam scumslipped why isn't he insta scumreading him? He has a role name, Alakaslam thinks we don't. | ||
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Bye Alakaslam | ||
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What you say wile? | ||
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His only hope right now is that SL oversleeps deadline but then I die andwe lose them game. I need your axe on bats if things go downhill with SL | ||
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Also he townread me earlier and scumread me now when it can win his game. | ||
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On February 03 2015 06:53 batsnacks wrote: Vivax if you're still here can you walk me through your read on Wile and how it's evolved over the course of the day? I saw Alakaslam scumslipping. You soft-scumread wile all game long but never wanted to lynch him. By PoE WIle is not scum, also he has the largest filter and is collaborating with me. | ||
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On February 03 2015 07:23 batsnacks wrote: I haven't scumread wile at all this game. On February 03 2015 07:12 Vivax wrote: EBWOP u soft-scumread kaslam Of course he is supposed to be your ally at lylo where you mislynch me with him. So you basically were in a good position with me calling you and wile scum all game. You basically buddied him up that way. | ||
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Omfg. IM TOWN TOWN I POINTED OUT HOW ALAKASLAM ISNT TOWN CAUSE HE DOESNT HAVE THSAME VANILLA TOWN PM EVERYONE ELSE HAS. ALL VOTES SHOULD GO TO SLAM: | ||
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On February 03 2015 07:42 Wile E. Coyote wrote: I got it. Don't panic. Would much prefer lynching slam though... We can't, SL is afk and I'm set to be lynched. It's over after this game if we don't shenannie onto bats. | ||
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On February 03 2015 07:53 sicklucker wrote: whats the vote count Sou you were lurking here all the time but refused to change to Alakaslam cause it would have gotten me lynched. Bus Alakaslam, then you can concede- | ||
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Not so well played Alakaslam and bats. | ||
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On February 03 2015 08:02 marvellosity wrote: Vivax you're somehow a worse player than when you started playing. This game for sure. And what you say about me doesn't matter cause you're just a cocky bully who thinks highly of himself. | ||
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On February 03 2015 08:27 Koshi wrote: gg dnu how JAT wasn't lynched. Easiest lynch in your life. After that Alakaslam was cleared for spoiling Wile was JAT. Sickluster wanting to lynch HTS screwed me over big time. But I might have turned that read around after I lynched Wile and Vivax/bats. Also. Why you fuckers lynched Damdred after I told you he was town the entire game is beyond me. Or why you lynch Oats right after HTS who clearly cleared Oats. Really terrible by the town in the game and not Oats his fault. Learn to fucking open a filter and read it. Oats played agsint his wincon and im deserves a ban. He cleary stopped enjogying teh game. I've had wanted Wile lynched all game long until I saw Otas throwing and that Alakaslam scumslip which I still can't comprehend cause he should havred his role PM and seen his name. | ||
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Fuck marv cause he's a cocky bastard but it was HF who did go'd work. ANd I get shat on for sheeping him and then being ill and having problems at home for two days. | ||
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