[M][N]The Void Mafia

On January 21 2015 07:17 liancourt wrote:
discussion on marv seems irrelevant when koshi is here don't you think?

we can get a fresh perspective.

On January 21 2015 07:37 liancourt wrote:


tell me it's a joke

On January 21 2015 07:39 Damdred wrote:


Having a really bad game, bad time constrints past few days I guess.

Like I said before theres not much I can do at this point to convince people i'm giving thoughts but people just say i'm scummy anyway and then some form of trap that makes no sense zzzz.

On January 21 2015 07:39 Alakaslam wrote:

I know, tell me what for now we ffite

On January 21 2015 07:42 Alakaslam wrote:

then let us fite

for how am I so annoyed?

On January 21 2015 07:45 Alakaslam wrote:

you have your answer, koshi

On January 21 2015 07:45 Alakaslam wrote:

frankly I townread him by the power of great omgus

On January 21 2015 07:51 Alakaslam wrote:

let me unpack it then.

He was scumreading Geript and Marv, and Marv-Oats came to his defense.

It is because I disagreed with him that it actually gave him credence. Why did marv and oats defend geript so readily?

So lian was not without reason to say that.

so, feh!

On January 21 2015 07:57 Damdred wrote:


Actually talk to me about this lian why are you town reading me or at least reading me this way to try to push a vote off me?

On January 21 2015 10:17 sicklucker wrote:
Hts, dandred, bats sheeped without giving very solid reasons so I dont really like any of them. But im voting lian because were going to lose if hes town anyway.

Anyway I made a list post that koshi agrees with read that

On January 21 2015 14:15 Vivax wrote:


Oatsmaster what the fuck are you doing all this game.
I didn't see you cast a vote once.

It's like you don't have scumreads.

But when it's about defending sicklucker you and himself seem to be scumbuddies.

Name me three scumreads now.

On January 21 2015 18:37 KelsierSC wrote:
Sup guys, I had a glass of red wine and fell asleep last night, RIP

My vote is going to be on HTS,damdred or lian

I don't really understand why slam is even being considered if someone can present the case on that, I would be interested

On January 21 2015 18:46 KelsierSC wrote:


He hasn't crossed my radar at all

whereas HTS,Dam,lian,sl and now VA have all crossed it.

On January 21 2015 18:48 KelsierSC wrote:
I mean what I just saw from VA has to be the stupidest thing in the world.



There are plenty of good lynches which, even if wrong, would give us good information. Like Damdred or SL or HTS

Lynch one of those if you don't know but wasting a vote on slam with no actual reason for calling him scum is just terrible

On January 21 2015 18:54 KelsierSC wrote:
Koshi look at what VA actually wrote their and tell me how that makes any sense

rather than actually figure out or lynch someone scummy he votes on slam because

"we have nothing concrete" well it's D1 no shit

On January 20 2015 22:29 KelsierSC wrote:
Going to give where I'm at

I like - HTS,oats,marv

I don't like - Lian,Dam

On January 21 2015 19:05 KelsierSC wrote:
I went back and read Slam and I didn't see anything scummy.

I don't really know what the case is.

I saw someone saying he is "hot and frazzled" and then VA's case.

On January 21 2015 19:22 KelsierSC wrote:


Did you read my thing with hts?

On January 21 2015 19:48 Wile E. Coyote wrote:

So, let us assume you are town. Your mislynch wagon is rolling happily with many people on it and you townread oats for ignoring it? In what world is that towny?
A townie should have an opinion on the leading wagon and not ignore them. Mafia does not want to be associated with a mislynch wagon and doesn't care about it.

On January 21 2015 03:48 Vivax wrote:
WHAT IS THIS SHIT MARV IS PULLING OFF?????????????

HE HAS A SCUMREAD, I AGREE WITH HIM, HE TOWNREADS ME, AND THEN HE WANTS TO POLICY ME GIVING US ZERO INFORMATION.

On January 21 2015 03:49 Vivax wrote:
Well you're an asshole and a fucking dumbass then.
I hope you get hemorrhoids.

On January 21 2015 03:51 Vivax wrote:
I seriously hope town doesn't follow you in this dumb crusade of narcissism.

On January 21 2015 03:52 Vivax wrote:


Only if you promise to move your vote to SL with me, then I'll shut up.

On January 21 2015 21:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
Have you never seen Vivax play scum?
Its normal

On January 21 2015 21:52 Oatsmaster wrote:

The one where he killed his teammate.

On January 21 2015 22:03 batsnacks wrote:
Apparently vivax was crazy in Imperial Mafia as scum but I can't verify that cause I was lynched d1. Marv was talking about it though.

On January 21 2015 22:09 Half the Sky wrote:


Vivax wasn't scum in Imperial, but he might have been crazy towards lylo. The scumteam was Marv, Art, Superbia, Rit and Damdred.

On January 21 2015 22:21 Half the Sky wrote:


I did not play in Imperial but was a shadow for the scum. My following of the game fell off towards late game, but at the end, I just remember Vivax posting a little more frantically as he was trying to figure out the game towards the end. He was probably on the wrong track since, in the post-game I recall Artanis trying to correct him on how he could play better.

On January 20 2015 22:26 Half the Sky wrote:
Lian townread Vivax as well....did he even read what Vivax presented?

On January 21 2015 22:31 sicklucker wrote:


Ya thats what I thought for a big chunk of imperial too.

On January 21 2015 22:39 sicklucker wrote:
Like kill hts with me. Ive scum coached her im pretty confident.

On January 21 2015 22:55 Holyflare wrote:
Vote Damdred, easy mafia. He posted 10 times since he left this thread in student mafia 5 hours later and couldn't be fucked to post here and he's incredibly absent and doesn't care about this game and is demotivated because he rolled mafia again

He applied that to marv but it applies equally to him

On January 21 2015 23:12 Half the Sky wrote:


Koshi, I misunderstood. I've been reading and re-reading filters, and such, and trying to poke holes where I can find them. I'm having a tough time with some of the reads, admittedly.

My argument that I had on Lian was not just the Vivax read, it was other reads. He mentioned SL, on the basis of a policy lynch. He mentioned Geript as scum for replacing out, which to me seemed random at best and he didn't explain Geript's gameplay, nor was there anything in Geripts filter that indicated that. Alakaslam and I questioned him on that last night, and he was like "you took that seriously?" Both of us had. And finally as I said before, when pressed as to why he's doing nothing, he explained more or less along the lines of "this is the meta I want to play".

Regarding the recent point on my scum meta, I was a lot more active as scum.

On January 21 2015 23:14 Holyflare wrote:
Filter size means nothing when it's 4, he's not actively solving the game, he returns and is out of the loop like I said previously. He only comments on irrelevant crap most of the time.

If you scum read hts for asking shit questions and not pushing anything damdred is the same. This is not the towny i voted for most improved player.

On January 21 2015 23:20 Half the Sky wrote:


No, I misunderstood that you were asking me about this game and not Imperial.

On January 21 2015 23:27 Holyflare wrote:


I'm not disagreeing with the other cases since you know I agreed they were good before you even joined the game.

A++ reading.

If you're going to be a cocky know it all dick instead of attacking my post saying it has a mafia agenda when it quite clearly doesn't how about elaborating on why he's not mafia instead because when I read his posts he's about 10 hours behind each time and saying things that people have already said which is why reading filters is shit and maybe you should spend actual time reading the game first.

On January 21 2015 23:29 Half the Sky wrote:


It's not that point alone. It's the aggregate, when you consider that he's not reading the thread for his scumreads. When he first enters, Lian says "did SL even post" when SL posted on three pages. That's another instance. Him throwing Vivax's name the way he had for the others further supports the fact that he's not reading the thread.

On January 20 2015 19:24 liancourt wrote:
At least we know vivax is town

On January 21 2015 23:39 Holyflare wrote:
Damdred also never states that he can't keep up with 2 games. At all. Ever. Instead he just complains reallllyyyy out of the blue that he was demotivated and everyone immediately said "huh?" because it was so random/not characteristic.

Nothing he has done this game is progressive. It's all answering KelsierSC questions about marv and then saying sl was lying about some meta and then into demotivated speech.

On January 21 2015 23:56 Holyflare wrote:


He's made time excuses maybe you should read.

"i have not time everyone asked what i wanted to ask when I'm here"
"I've got to go, wife"
"I'm running out of time"

On January 22 2015 00:06 Vivax wrote:
Screw the doc cause my mom is doing that for me. I'm here now. Anything you want me to take a look at? Comments on the SL vs OATS vs ME thingy?

On January 22 2015 00:10 Vivax wrote:


Why Alakaslam and not SL?

On January 22 2015 00:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Case on me that is bad and doesnt make any fucking sense at all.

On January 22 2015 00:37 Half the Sky wrote:


Impossible, no, unlikely, yes. In his game where he was more cohesive, he actually demonstrated it.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/474389-new-years-eve-party-mini-mafia?user=liancourt

On January 22 2015 00:54 Vivax wrote:
Koshi I just got back my blood test results (Hyperthyreosis, Iron insufficiency, and increased monocytes which are basically precursors to macrophages) and I currently really think you're town.

So while I do other stuff please just figure this game out for me and I'll sheep you at the ene dof the day. Ok buddy?

On January 22 2015 00:49 Half the Sky wrote:
That's the thing though, I didn't agree with Kels on what he said on Damdred. The "oh yeah as well" is taking things out of context.

On January 21 2015 01:28 Half the Sky wrote:
No, not saying the question on Damd wasn't a sidestep, but the ones on Marv and Lian were the first thing that came to my mind. Also SL was trying to convince me at the beginning on Marv, but I'd taken a wait and see approach.

On January 22 2015 01:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Vote Count
sicklucker (5): liancourt, Holyflare, marvellosity, batsnacks, Half the Sky, Vivax, marvellosity, Wile E. Coyote
Liancourt (1): Koshi, sicklucker
Oatsmaster (1): Holyflare, Damdred, Half the Sky
Vivax (0): marvellosity marvellosity, Oatsmaster
Alakaslam (1): Koshi, VayneAuthority
Half the Sky (2): marvellosity, sicklucker, KelsierSC, sicklucker
Marvellosity (0): Vivax, Wile E. Coyote, sicklucker
KelsierSC (0): batsnacks
Damdred (2): Holyflare, Oatsmaster

Not voted (1): Alakaslam
Currently, sicklucker is being pulled into the void.
The Void's pull is growing stronger. remains.

On January 22 2015 02:28 Half the Sky wrote:
Koshi, Kels mentioned the question on Damdred, I just assumed it existed, but only commented on the points I was more involved with, Lian and Marv. Those two I remembered. I did not say "oh yeah that as well."

On January 22 2015 02:33 Half the Sky wrote:
Also switched my vote to liancourt, based on what I had said earlier.

On January 22 2015 02:44 Half the Sky wrote:


Koshi, will do, will do my best. As for your scumpool, obviously I voted Lian.

Slam is generally someone I try not to read D1, he falls into the same category as VA, do I know if he's hiding behind a meta or not? In Carol, if I recall right people tried to read him D1 and were criticised for it.

Wile, I obviously don't know him, so from what I recall at face value, he has answered questions from HF and he seems to have asked some questions of people. He looked okay to me.

Oats looked okay to me until he threw out Bats' name, and again didn't explain why. Then his thing on Vivax. I questioned him on why he wanted to lynch Bats, but I don't recall a response. If he did, I missed it.

On January 22 2015 02:46 Half the Sky wrote:
Koshi, to add to Slam, again same with VA, if I were to ignore meta, I would be scumreading both for doing absolutely nothing to help town.

On January 21 2015 08:53 liancourt wrote:


Trying way too hard too early

town

On January 22 2015 03:03 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
I am having a really busy day at work today. Will try to catch up as quickly as possible now. Who are we lynching currently?

On January 22 2015 03:47 GlowingBear wrote:
Vote Count
sicklucker (3): liancourt, Holyflare, marvellosity, batsnacks, Half the Sky, Vivax, marvellosity, Wile E. Coyote
Liancourt (3): Koshi, sicklucker, Half the Sky, Vivax
Oatsmaster (1): Holyflare, Damdred, Half the Sky
Vivax (0): marvellosity marvellosity, Oatsmaster
Alakaslam (1): Koshi, VayneAuthority
Half the Sky (2): marvellosity, sicklucker, KelsierSC, sicklucker
Marvellosity (0): Vivax, Wile E. Coyote, sicklucker
KelsierSC (0): batsnacks
Damdred (2): Holyflare, Oatsmaster

Not voted (1): Alakaslam
Currently, sicklucker is being pulled into the void.
The Void's pull is growing stronger. remains.

On January 22 2015 05:31 Wile E. Coyote wrote:

When did you become a firm believer in policy lynches?

On January 22 2015 05:46 Wile E. Coyote wrote:

Hm, ok. In my experience oats is usually really under the radar as mafia and often survives the longest on his team while as a townie he is very controversial and often mislynched.

On January 22 2015 06:01 KelsierSC wrote:


I wish marv was here

On January 22 2015 06:09 Wile E. Coyote wrote:

My vote is on the leading wagon. There is no need for me to push something else.

On January 22 2015 07:39 Holyflare wrote:


get on hts

On January 22 2015 07:54 liancourt wrote:
No one actually has a case on me

I just did nothing and sheeped ppl

On January 22 2015 07:58 sicklucker wrote:
Come on guys let the veg deal with lian. We need one vote to kill a more likely mafia.

On January 22 2015 07:59 liancourt wrote:
Just before i die

slam is scum because he is playing with no chupazi and he is playing so that he can be townread and is actually doing something townie.

When i scumread him he reacted weirdly and said he was going to vote me with koshi.

Slam didnt even vote. He was very inactive in titantic and he is not even voting here. My 2 cents.

slam gives insightful reads not reads that can make him look town

bye

On January 22 2015 02:13 Koshi wrote:
liancourt/Wile E. Coyote/Half the Sky/Oatsmaster/Alakaslam

My new scumpool.

On January 22 2015 02:13 Koshi wrote:
liancourt/Wile E. Coyote/Half the Sky/Oatsmaster/Alakaslam/batsnacks

My new scumpool.

On January 22 2015 18:55 Vivax wrote:




Saw the flip, it was lian, I made a mistake sheeping Koshi.

Koshi, you better watch your back now, cause I'm going to figure out this game before night ends. I'm not scum and you're suddenly putting me into the scumpile after posting a very very strong argument for me being town.

On January 22 2015 19:37 Vivax wrote:
Koshi I want you to analyse Kelsier for me, would you kindly?

On January 22 2015 17:18 Koshi wrote:

My newest addition to the scumpool. I don't know why I forgot him. This makes it really likely he is scum.

All other people are town. Including Damdred. ez town read. You people are horrible for not seeing it. I would lynch Vivax/HF before Damdred.

On January 22 2015 21:04 Wile E. Coyote wrote:

This is a good post.

On January 22 2015 21:06 Wile E. Coyote wrote:

Does not compute.

On January 22 2015 21:09 Wile E. Coyote wrote:

What makes you think that I don't give a fuck about SL? Is this guy 4 real?

On January 22 2015 23:57 batsnacks wrote:
Ok even though I'm not posting a lot this game I am keeping up with reading.

This is my town list from memory if you have any questions
Wile E
Damd (wish he didn't marytr so much this game though)
Koshi
Oats
KSC
Vivax

On January 23 2015 00:03 Damdred wrote:
Why isn't HF or Kels on your list bats

On January 23 2015 00:32 Vivax wrote:
Did anyone read my vote stuff with the Kelsier + HF * Oats theory?

On January 23 2015 00:51 KelsierSC wrote:
I guess this question Is for dam,hts , koshi and hf.

What did sl do to make you read him town?

On January 23 2015 02:44 Vivax wrote:
No actually I'll just lean back and if people just ignore the posts on SL I won't even bother keep playing the game for today.

On January 23 2015 04:16 Holyflare wrote:
after hts you absolutely lynch slam btw, or at least hope he doesn't vote again

On January 23 2015 04:18 Holyflare wrote:


i called it out long before you even joined

On January 23 2015 05:15 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
It is as if you forgot there is mafia in this game that could vote you if you are town. Very very odd.

On January 23 2015 05:23 Wile E. Coyote wrote:

You don't think that it is weird that SL says he wasn't afraid of being lynched in the slightest when he was the leading wagon for almost the whole time and even in the end he was only 1 vote away from being killed? With the specific explanation that his TOWNREADS weren't scumreading him?

On January 23 2015 05:29 sicklucker wrote:
I just thought everyone sheeped hf's and marvs early day 1 cases. When they unvoted me I felt quite safe only the sheep remained. I expected to be unvoted by them but I was a little worried at eod but not really. I was two votes ahead

On January 23 2015 05:35 Wile E. Coyote wrote:

Why not?

On January 23 2015 05:41 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Take into account that HTS has been SLs #1 scumread all game.

On January 23 2015 05:43 Wile E. Coyote wrote:

Prove it.

On January 22 2015 08:20 GlowingBear wrote:
Final Vote Count
sicklucker (3): liancourt, Holyflare, marvellosity, batsnacks, Half the Sky, Vivax, marvellosity, Wile E. Coyote
Liancourt (4): Koshi, sicklucker, Half the Sky, Vivax, sicklucker
Oatsmaster (1): Holyflare, Damdred, Half the Sky
Vivax (0): marvellosity marvellosity, Oatsmaster
Alakaslam (1): Koshi, VayneAuthority
Half the Sky (2): marvellosity, sicklucker, KelsierSC, sicklucker, Holyflare
Marvellosity (0): Vivax, Wile E. Coyote, sicklucker
KelsierSC (0): batsnacks
Damdred (1): Holyflare, Oatsmaster

Not voted (1): Alakaslam
liancourt was pulled into the void.
The Void's pull is growing stronger. remains.

On January 23 2015 05:50 Holyflare wrote:
Hts scum read on sl does not exist. She could not have switched anyway.

On January 23 2015 05:47 sicklucker wrote:


You thought he said hts scum read me all game? because that is certainly debatable.

On January 23 2015 06:05 Wile E. Coyote wrote:

What is there that is hard to understand? Seriously. I know you are not dumb.

On January 23 2015 06:18 sicklucker wrote:
If your talking about hts voting me earlier in the day. It looked like people were gonna unvote me I didnt think I was getting lynched so mafia probably didnt either. She went for the easy mislynch on lian thats all there is too it. Were both town I dont think mafia was too picky.

On January 23 2015 08:01 Vivax wrote:


Explain please?

Do you have any objections to lynching HTS after that NK?

On January 23 2015 20:43 KelsierSC wrote:
because terran is gay

yeh I said it, what

User was temp banned for this post.

On January 23 2015 23:47 Damdred wrote:
and if hts is town kel/

On January 23 2015 23:56 Half the Sky wrote:


So this has nothing to do with his gameplay or someone he's trying to emulate?

On January 24 2015 00:55 sicklucker wrote:
It must be nice to sign up for games and decide to not play if you role vt. Maybe I should adapt this strategy...

On January 24 2015 03:18 Alakaslam wrote:

Tell me why.

I townread wile so I would like to know why you would scumread him ever.

On January 24 2015 03:32 Wile E. Coyote wrote:

Koshi seems to think because I lead shenannies in our last game I have to do this every game or some shit. When in fact I only did this because I had doubts about both wagons in Imperial while my biggest scumread was a leading wagon in this game.

On January 24 2015 03:37 Alakaslam wrote:
Yet somehow they scumread me.

failure.

On January 24 2015 03:40 Alakaslam wrote:

Because you are both doing the same stupid siht.

"slam is scum because 'hot and bothered' (or) no reason he is just scum"

<Slam does blatantly scummy shit and contradictory to play>

Koshi & VA: whistle

SL: Catches on and says "did you even read game"

For srs.

On January 24 2015 03:39 Wile E. Coyote wrote:

Nice try Koshi. I NEVER EVER dropped the SL read and yes, of course I was strong on it hence why I voted him and stuck with it. Are you scum or wtf is going on with you? Why would I need to mobilize town when my scumread was getting lynched? Not to mention how much of a difference it makes that I am smurfing in regards to mobilizing anyone.

On January 24 2015 03:51 Half the Sky wrote:


Carol. You were NKed N1.

What do you think of Vivax sheeping you and then calling you scum for voting Lian?

Looking into SL and Damdred atm...

On January 24 2015 03:51 sicklucker wrote:


I mean I knew it was jat the second koshi mentioned it. No reason to hide it after that. Buttons clicked in my head and it made too much sense

On January 24 2015 04:27 Wile E. Coyote wrote:

I never said anything of this sort. Why do you keep lying about what I did this game? It is fucking irritating.

On January 24 2015 20:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah I'm thinking damdred after hts too.
His meltdown after the lynch when I called him bad is really weird. He like martyred a bit. Completely not townie.

On January 20 2015 09:43 geript wrote:

Yah. Geript also asked for a replacement so shove it. Marv's town btw. You can just sheep him. Idk about HF. Just skimmed over his 1 post I saw. Vayne's probly town I'd Gigi shoot bat or Hts tonight probly. I know Vivax posted but I ignored reading them. I just wanted to clear the filter. Kelsier might be mafia too. I had that thought. I forget why.

There you go replacement. Those are my thoughts. Seriously though replacement Marv is town.

On January 20 2015 23:27 Holyflare wrote:


but we're... your top 2 scum reads?!?!?!?!

On January 21 2015 02:41 marvellosity wrote:

That's like faceplanting into cake and telling us you're eating in an unusual way.

On January 25 2015 12:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Woooo I'm confirmed town!!

On January 25 2015 12:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Woooo I'm confirmed town!!

On January 22 2015 07:45 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Where the hell is slam?

On January 22 2015 07:41 Wile E. Coyote wrote:

A wagon of 2 votes.

On January 22 2015 07:50 Wile E. Coyote wrote:

lol? Lynching her right now would be shenanigans. There are 2 bigger wagons!

On January 22 2015 07:54 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
HF:

"Let's not allow shenanigans. Push the main wagon."
Pushes the smallest wagon.

???

On January 25 2015 13:37 Damdred wrote:
What about a vivax and wile team koshi?