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On January 18 2015 12:17 LightningStrike wrote: I would like to shadow you since I want a different perspective on how to play game out as either alignments! Sure thing  | ||
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On January 19 2015 19:40 justanothertownie wrote: But I don't have enough time  Then don't play :o | ||
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2 1/2 hours later, right | ||
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On January 20 2015 02:19 Oatsmaster wrote: Im going to sleeeepppppppp horrific bad reason by damdred. shuts down not really bad reason, doesn't explain why it's bad at all and fucks off to sleep much like the last mafia game I played with him where he just shuts down anything and says it's bad and goes afk again | ||
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On January 20 2015 05:06 Vivax wrote: So Damdred agrees but doesn't vote marv, Vayne writes something completely unrelated to what's going on, and JAt joines the bro club Plus lian posted popcorn and then didnt post. why not vayne btw? and jat isn't even in this game? | ||
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On January 20 2015 02:45 VayneAuthority wrote: sup im here most of the day which is weird, have my first monday off in quite some time. I think everyone should write a sentence about how much they enjoyed Artanis' flavor and those who can't procure an emotional reaction from me are probably mafia because they are too rigid from anxiety to create a beautiful memoir. ignoring that this says absolutely nothing, for someone with an entire monday off 1 post in 3 hours is pretty abysmal especially as he wanted people to apparently follow this up | ||
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On January 20 2015 05:21 sicklucker wrote: Hum too early hf but I respect your oats mafia read it's absolutely not too early, you should jump on this wagon with me | ||
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On January 20 2015 06:14 Half the Sky wrote: Greetings everyone! Reading through, I've not played a game with Marv so I'm not familiar as to how he plays as scum. I find it interesting though that when the pressure votes are on, he posts a few things on Artanis' story. (Why?) HF, on VA, I agree with you as to why he is looking bad. However, last game with Vayne, I voted him for being completely useless not helping us solve the game and Batsnacks told me that his D1 meta is basically dicking around and not caring. He was lynched and flipped town. what about oats? | ||
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On January 20 2015 06:22 sicklucker wrote: ohhh I knew I recognized va. Hts its so no secret that marv doesint want to play scum. His last 3 games all mafia. In the first two he gave up on day 1. His most recent one being a 600 page marathon. After that game is over theres no way hes gonna try if he rolled mafia again. So thats why we all vote marv and see what happens. you know what's better than not voting marv and seeing what happens? voting other people and seeing what happens and getting rid of free marv later! | ||
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On January 20 2015 06:26 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Why shouldn't we get rid of free marv today? Later today obviously. It's not very good pushing a lynch for a guy that's going to do nothing if he's just going to be obvious and do nothing is it? | ||
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On January 20 2015 06:28 sicklucker wrote: I tried that strategy It didnt work out That's wonderful. You should try my suggestion and find other mafia instead of being stale and leaving your vote on him. It's not going to achieve anything in the long run. | ||
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On January 20 2015 05:15 Damdred wrote: I forgot about the vote thread and throwing down my vote. And its hard to vote on my phone. HF makes me happy with that oats post. On January 20 2015 06:33 batsnacks wrote: Well maybe you're right... he never even voted marv he voted oats. | ||
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On January 20 2015 06:38 Wile E. Coyote wrote: So instead of the guy that may be here lurking we should pressure the guy that went to sleep? That is your great plan, yes? Not only are you being absolutely useless posting like this but there is absolutely no negative to try and get people to take stances on someone that isn't here. Yes, marv is afk, yes he would be dejected if he rolled mafia again. That's the most obvious thing I've ever seen in this game and serves no purpose to talk about at all. If he's mafia his team will bus him and everyone's votes will have no effect. I'm making a post on oats - yes who is afk - I don't even care about oats to be honest, I care about people's responses. The game had 2 pages of content until I got here and started throwing up crap for people to talk about. Please don't be useless, it's quite obvious we shouldn't waste 48 hours talking about the same topic of if someone is going to play or isn't going to play before he's even posted 3 posts. | ||
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On January 20 2015 06:48 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Sir yes sir. What do you want me to do, sir? comment on something or give your own ideas? I've not seen you do anything but agree with kelsier about a damdred point that doesn't particularly make sense and then leave it alone and needlessly pick out me wanting to explore other avenues have you played with any of va/oats/marv/damd before? You agreed with kelsiers point on damd but do you think that it's scummy to phrase it like that? If kelsier is now saying what damdred said was actually a joke then why does it count as a point against him at all? If damd's intentions were quite clearly to vote for marv here: On January 20 2015 05:15 Damdred wrote: I forgot about the vote thread and throwing down my vote. And its hard to vote on my phone. HF makes me happy with that oats post. then why is it a joke? or do you not think it was a joke and you are just agreeing with the first point that damd is setting himself up to town read marv? | ||
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On January 20 2015 07:01 Wile E. Coyote wrote: What about the damdred point I agreed with does not make sense? Don't you think that it is surprising how he says nothing about oats when it happens but is eager to jump on it when someone else mentions it later? Yes, I played with those players before. I'm not saying it doesn't make sense, I just want you to expand on your reasoning. I don't know what damd was doing or how it transpired because from the looks of it he was reading the story and just posted and missed the one tiny post from oats. Although this shows more the lack of caring about what others have posted more than anything else which I agree is bad, I wanted him to comment on things and answer for himself before I posted my own thoughts on it. On January 20 2015 06:13 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Sounds to me like KelsierSC's point is that damdred sets himself up to townread Marv as soon as he starts yelling/being loud. I was also referring to this point, I wanted to know if you agreed further with kelsiers assumptions that damdred was actually joking about his marv vote and was setting himself up to town read marv or not. From what it looks like you think damd wasn't serious about his reasoning (for the record I have no problem with his reasoning of if marv does nothing he's likely mafia) and I can't tell why. | ||
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On January 20 2015 02:10 Wile E. Coyote wrote: ##Vote Marvellosity which means you're on board with his wagon of pressure of if he does nothing he's mafia but then are critical of damdred for wanting to vote marv for the same reasons. It's pretty weird. | ||
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On January 20 2015 02:10 Wile E. Coyote wrote: ##Vote Marvellosity On January 20 2015 02:15 Vivax wrote: I like this reason. Wyle isn't up to date with recent events so he probably thinks we're just doing this for trolling. But just keep piling up the votes in my absence and see what happens. You join vivax's train onto marv. Damdred gives his reasons to be on it which vivax agrees with. You maintain your vote on marv. You know their wagon is to pressure marv too see if he does anything and if he does he's probably not mafia - or at least might not be. You know this because you are reading the game and commented on their follow up posts. Yet, later you continue to go onto damdred points with things like: On January 20 2015 06:13 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Sounds to me like KelsierSC's point is that damdred sets himself up to townread Marv as soon as he starts yelling/being loud. you add to kelsier point, you don't particularly weigh in but this comment looks like an agreement/criticism. Yet, we're still on you voting for marv despite you seemingly agreeing with kelsier about damd. It's weird that you stay on the marv wagon and even point out the damdred thing but still stay on the wagon which was made specifically for the reason damd pointed out | ||
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On January 20 2015 07:27 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Did my vote on Marvellosity seem very serious to you? Maybe you should have added this post to your little collection: So then why are you still voting for him with the person you're arguably most against? | ||
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I want your thoughts on damdred that don't involve his post on oats that he hasn't explained yet. All I've seen is you agreeing that he wants to give an easy reason to town read marv later but fail to acknowledge the fact that that was what the wagon was about in the first place and instead ignore everything kelsier is pushing about it to have some kind of quarrel with me instead of just being transparent. | ||
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1. Do you town/scum/null/null-townscum read damdred? 2. Do you think his push on marv is scummy because he's giving him an out? a) If so, why aren't you talking about vivax? b) Do you know marv's meta? What is there to disagree about in damdred's points? 3. Why are you being so obnoxious? In the first place you say that your vote on marv was a joke, yet in the second instance you say it shouldn't matter if your vote is on him if his team mates are bussing him. This implies that marv IS mafia when he hasn't even posted anything yet? Number 3 is very important because if your vote was simply a joke vote and you agreed that damd is giving marv an out if he just puts in work then you are saying that damd is scummy and giving a provision for marv to be town because a town marv would step up but yet you're still voting for marv and not damd. | ||
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On January 20 2015 07:52 VayneAuthority wrote: so yea I think kelsier is mafia any opinions on that guys thinking the opposite at the moment but the day is young, not really seen him make a push on people like that in my 1 mafia games of experience with him even if I disagree with it | ||
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On January 20 2015 07:58 Wile E. Coyote wrote: 1. I don't have a read on any player at this point. 2. His push on marv is not alignment indicative. I am familiar with marv's meta. 3. You are the one being obnoxious towards me. I am asking you why it matters because you are implying that I shouldn't be voting marv for the mentioned reason when earlier you said marv would be bussed. This question is not about them or me but about you because what you are saying makes no sense. You were pointing out things that make damdred look scummy. You were voting marv for a joke. You then pointed out things that make damdred's vote and talk about marv seem like it was easy to town read marv because he knows it's a town marv. You then say marv can be bussed and that's why your vote was still on him (even though it was a joke)? wut? by everything you were talking about and pointing out it looks like you would be thinking marv was town and damd mafia but maintained your vote on marv for no reason. ^ that's where the disconnect is happening. So, whatever, I'll leave you alone since you've explained your stuff. | ||
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On January 20 2015 08:11 Wile E. Coyote wrote: You are still putting words into my mouth. I will show you the timeline once last time: I voted Marvellosity. It was not a very serious vote which should be really really obvious if you read the thread. I pointed out something that makes damdred look scummy or rather I agreed with Kelsier about his point. -> the oats thing I told you the meaning of a different post by Kelsier which you did not seem to understand. Without giving any opinion on it. You attacked me for my vote since Damdred is voting for the same player after saying earlier that scum would probably bus marv. So why would you have a problem with my vote if you actually believed that I was serious about my vote and also strongly scumreading Damdred? I was just telling you what I saw and how I interpreted it. Drop it since you've already explained yourself. The problem is because if you were serious about the marv vote the point about damdred didn't make sense. (which you've already said wasn't a point you were agreeing with hence it's now irrelevant) | ||
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On January 20 2015 08:36 KelsierSC wrote: Bats care to explain how I misrepresented dam, I don't think you misrepresented damd (maybe his convo with vivax, it wasn't that bad tbh) but your points don't really mean that damd is scum because they are legitimate points to scum/town read marv on (whether marv plays mafia for a 3rd time in a row). The plausible point is the oats part but damd addressed that he missed it so take that as you will. | ||
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On January 20 2015 08:57 liancourt wrote: The votes on marv and oats are hilarious i expect them to move to sl Why are they hilarious? Are you saying that oats didn't do exactly what he was doing in carol? Why is voting marv bad when he's done absolutely nothing and is probably mafia? | ||
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On January 20 2015 09:02 Half the Sky wrote: HF and Damdred, can both of you elaborate how Marv plays when he IS town? Does he post a lot, is he emotional, etc? posts a lot, addresses most things, leads town? | ||
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On January 20 2015 10:11 KelsierSC wrote: it matters because this logic makes no sense to me "I am going to pressure this person so they can prove to me they are town" "This is what the person has to do to convince me they are town" ........(that person i want to pressure is here, better not question them) "oh they did that thing, well they have to be town then" I don't know why you would write line 2 unless you wanted an excuse to town read marv in the first place. On January 20 2015 10:14 Oatsmaster wrote: anyway damdred's reason is bad because you cant start off by calling someone scum if he doesnt do literally anything. Hes gotta do something to be called scum. The read should be, if marv does "thisthisthis" then hes scum, not if marv doesnt do "thisthisthis" then hes scum. this just isn't true at all, marv has been mafia and we know he's mafia in past games when he's just done absolutely nothing at all hence why posts like damdred's make sense | ||
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On January 20 2015 10:20 KelsierSC wrote: marv just won a scum game without being lynched where he had a filter of 40 something pages. The game that Dam was just in. So Dam using a stale meta of "well he yells a lot" just seems bogus to me Right, and in previous games where he's gone try hard mafia his next games contain almost 0 content or play at all because he cba. Hence Damdred's meta point of him probably not giving a crap holds some truth. | ||
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On January 20 2015 11:28 Damdred wrote: You aren't in the game yet slam please don't comment. The comment made me laugh HF, but i'm town this time. going back and rereading some of the things I've missed while I was at work now. tick tock | ||
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On January 20 2015 16:08 Vivax wrote: Oh and this post. I mean the second part is what I agree with. I like your way of thinking. Tell me where ur supposed to misrepresent somebody. Cba to look for it with this fever. On January 20 2015 02:15 Vivax wrote: I like this reason. Wyle isn't up to date with recent events so he probably thinks we're just doing this for trolling. But just keep piling up the votes in my absence and see what happens. Does not compute. You either like damd's point or you agree with kelsier and don't like damd's point. | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:00 marvellosity wrote: Note how you invited sl to interact with you re: lian, and he sidestepped and chose not to. and this ^ he's actually sidestepped almost everything in the game | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:05 marvellosity wrote: I'm mostly annoyed HF has made me shoot my wad on this already. He could at least have tied me up and let me have a bit of suspense first. that's for later  | ||
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On January 20 2015 06:22 sicklucker wrote: ohhh I knew I recognized va. Hts its so no secret that marv doesint want to play scum. His last 3 games all mafia. In the first two he gave up on day 1. His most recent one being a 600 page marathon. After that game is over theres no way hes gonna try if he rolled mafia again. So thats why we all vote marv and see what happens. sidestepped On January 20 2015 05:21 sicklucker wrote: Hum too early hf but I respect your oats mafia read sidestepped On January 20 2015 21:30 sicklucker wrote: I thought that last game when he was pushing confirmed towns for no reason. Hes probably town here too I dont see any good reasons otherwise sidestepped everything marv said ++++++ all those free town reads | ||
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I dont like how lians getting a free pass here when hes trying to policy lynch a player better then kush. I cant remember. oh the irony | ||
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On January 20 2015 21:16 Wile E. Coyote wrote: I think it is scandalous how marv is just sheeping Holyflare on HTS. this is the best post in the thread so far btw | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:14 sicklucker wrote: Thats not true at all. I just went in with a plan. If marv trys I unvote him. If not hes mafia its a very very easy way to figure out marvs alignment and half the game did it. what if he tries as mafia....... :O :O | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:19 sicklucker wrote: if you knew the meta you would know he wont really try that hard... it's funny how you, who has played only a handful of games knows marv better than me who has played 20+ games or something with him | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:21 marvellosity wrote: HF: it is overwhelmingly tempting to scumread Kelsier for how he's dealt with this just now. But I do feel like he's capable of a bit of derp, and I also thought he generally handled me and Vivax going at each other quite well. So, yea. yeh that's where I'm at tbh | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:21 Oatsmaster wrote: He would be fucking dumb to pursue it. The point is that he did make that case, and he did try and convince people to get on what is completely not a pressure vote. I dont even know what his read is on Wile or me, is better if he actually concluded shit rather than leaving it hanging. The thread had 2 pages since the start of the game when I arrived so I started discussion like crazy, your posting has improved markedly so I dropped you and put you in some arbitrary townyish pile. The same as wile e. who seemed quite genuine when he said he had no proper reads on people. | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:23 Vivax wrote: I'll just sheep marv and HF on SL today and if we get a town flip I'm rolling up my theory again. If SL flips scum I'm scumreading Kelsier for him being oblivious to the points on SL AND for being on the sideleines defending marv when we were fighting. Cause that's the sort of thing scum does. but we're... your top 2 scum reads?!?!?!?! | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:25 sicklucker wrote: Read post game of new years eve mafia. Does that sound like someone he wants to policy lynch ? On January 19 2015 00:41 liancourt wrote: I'm not a good mafia player by all means, someone said there are 3 elements to being a good mafia player. 1. Having good reads. 2. Convincing others. 3. Surviving lynches. I'm not very good at #2 and when I do try to convince others I die really early which is prolly why i dont try lol After watching you play for 3 games...carol, imperial, this game...as town you played...chaotic. You are more suited to play as mafia than town. Your actions confuse town rather than help town read scum. I could understand why mafia shot a bulletless vig than a tracker. The thing that I really didnt understand was that you townread me and you even tracked me, but somehow ended up voting me at the end. I knew mderg was town by the way he was posting on the last day so I wasn't going to switch votes to save myself and I was 100% sure of eden being mafia. When I'm 100% sure of something i dont try to convince others just look at how i played in carol i was so sure of hf that I afked most of the time until he was finally lynched. My advice to you as a fellow player is to think about those 3 things and make your play less chaotic. And I guess i should try and convince others more of my reads...maybe not...depends. yes | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:29 Vivax wrote: Well when two towns are fighting and KElsier is scum all he has to do is support the townie that has an advantage to get cred for him (marv) and discredit the other (me) for a potential mislynch. Remember PErsonality mafia 2, marv? You and me were fighting and Acrofales and Austin kept attacking me while siding with you. The obvious effect was that you didn't scumread them and instead instantly believed the fake red check from Hiro on me that lost us the game. Even though I townread Foolishness all game while you were scumreading him and he died the night before we lost the game.... it's quite easy to side with the person telling the truth over someone who is pushing lies and slander though | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:32 Oatsmaster wrote: Apparently the discussion didnt actually lead to anything though. A bit useless. I thought your problem with wile wasnt that he had no reads, rather it was this, which he explained by saying he didn't agree with what kelsier he was just clarifying it | ||
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On January 20 2015 07:50 Wile E. Coyote wrote: There is no inconsistency. I agreed with the first argument Kelsier raised about Damdred. Later I clarified what he meant in one of his other posts because someone (you?) did not understand it. I did not say if I agree with it and to be frank I don't even know if I do. You want my thoughts on Damdred? He barely did anything. He weirdly jumped on oats when he was brought up and that's about it. + 1. I don't have a read on any player at this point. explained it and seemed genuine with this remark | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:36 sicklucker wrote: Well if you guys sheep these two guys really bad read on me towns gonna be doomed because im flipping town... I don't really know who you are scum reading other than lian for doing an uncharacteristic push on you which I just proved wasn't actually uncharacteristic. On January 20 2015 21:48 sicklucker wrote: Ya bats is the only one who looked scummy here. Vivax always makes up reasons to scum read people nothing new here what happened to scum reading bats too? | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:37 Vivax wrote: Listen, the HTS thingy was a mess. when I noticed that marv sheeped you on HTS but wasn't wondering why you scumread him, I didn't further read on. I simply posted my thoughts about what I saw there and made conclusions. Later marv said something like "I misread" to take the wind out of my sails . So far I still don't know why you have assumptions that marv could be scum, or not. How are you reading him now and why? (Oh I townread him now cause we both think the same about SL's weird posts). Well, then go ahead. Lynch SL. And if he flips town, I'll have your heads on a spike on D2. Plenty of people have explained this, even marv himself knows? He did nothing for a long time and as the game continued and nothing of value was posted he looked scummy. Then he started posting and I moved him to the undecided pile? I don't know how you are so oblivious to everything everyone is posting and now suddenly you're coherently reading this sl stuff. Also, if you're town reading marv because you agree then why does it matter if it's a mislynch or not?????? | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:43 Vivax wrote: Ok this is actually a good argument for you being scum, cause right now, assuming marv is town, you knew from the start my arguments were stupid, and that's cause you knew marv was town simply cause you're scum. Obviously earlier you tried to find reasons to buddy us both up, so you couldn't be as explicit as you just were. If you just admitted that you didn't read the thread properly and misread the whole marv thing then why is calling your arguments stupid mafia indicative when everyone else was thinking the same thing? | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:37 Holyflare wrote: I don't really know who you are scum reading other than lian for doing an uncharacteristic push on you which I just proved wasn't actually uncharacteristic. what happened to scum reading bats too? | ||
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Holyflare - No strong read. Could be either Ive seen him push stupid mislynches as town before when???? | ||
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vote this guy right now, we've played like 3 games together and most of them I was mafia and the one game I was town he was mafia and shot me n1 for being so right and getting all of the mafia team. | ||
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On January 21 2015 00:12 sicklucker wrote: What. Didnt you shoot hopeless and mislynch rofl. I remember asking my scum buddys not to kill you because you were so wrong that game but they wanted to out of fear. On December 06 2014 06:03 sicklucker wrote: I just said we killed you for a reason (because you were good) not sure how you missed that. | ||
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On January 21 2015 00:15 sicklucker wrote: Ok so your right. You were the better of those 3 vets that embloded town. Now lynch me for having a bad memory rofl and how does that change your read? | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:50 Holyflare wrote: You complain about lian but didn't bring him up with kelsier. Later when you returned you talked about him and I disproved your posts saying that said this was uncharacteristic from new years eve end game, when it wasn't. You haven't even talked about this at all | ||
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On January 21 2015 00:42 Holyflare wrote: ok sl, i'm gonna stop asking you questions and I want you to pick out a person (not lian) that you want to lynch and I want you to convince me to lynch them over you. I hope it's convincing. | ||
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On January 21 2015 01:37 Half the Sky wrote: Marv, yes, but that's a weaker read on my end. I didn't like his points he made against you. Still, I feel the most strongly about SL. are you not going to comment on the kelstrap? | ||
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Good point on Lian, might have to look at him further if SL flips scum. This isn't a good point because lian already said it was a policy | ||
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On January 21 2015 01:42 Vivax wrote: As you might ave noticed I'm not reading much of the thread cause right now I'm just awaiting Sl's flip. what the fuck?? then why even comment on anything??? | ||
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On January 21 2015 01:41 Half the Sky wrote: Like I said, the Marv and Lian points were the first thing that came to my mind because I was somewhat involved with those. I didn't filter dive the thread. then why did you make it sound like you had an opinion on something that you had no idea if it happened or not? | ||
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On January 21 2015 01:28 Half the Sky wrote: No, not saying the question on Damd wasn't a sidestep, but the ones on Marv and Lian were the first thing that came to my mind. Also SL was trying to convince me at the beginning on Marv, but I'd taken a wait and see approach. it's super odd phrasing for something that doesn't exist though instead of saying "i don't remember that happening" | ||
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On January 21 2015 03:08 sicklucker wrote: Look at mspaint where im scum. Ve/hf/hopeless were all fighting and calling each other mafia. What do I do? I sit back and dont post at all day 1 or even day 2. I dont freakin come out and tell everyone their obvious towns as mafia thats pretty dumb. VisceraEyes is pretty town here . I dont think someone with 16k posts is going to make a 10 page case right out of the gete with pretty small evidence. I truly believe he thinks what he says. On November 21 2014 04:17 sicklucker wrote: I kinda wanna mislynch you again to ff ^_^. I got some time to contribute rereading the thread. ritoky is town. Hes trying to keep the peace and get that horribly overreacted fight done with. I dont think a mafia ever has the balls or the motive to keep the peace when we have people threatening to veggie shoot people two hours into the gamee. Rayn- Like his reads doing his usual aggressive townshit the fact he was the first one to call ve town I liked verymuch FF- He accepted peace after a rocky game thats very towny to me ve- Insanely confident I have a hard time believing he goes that hard on nothing if hes mafia. ritoky - My top town I think Hes trying to keep the peace and get that horribly overreacted fight done with. I dont think a mafia ever has the balls or the motive to keep the peace when we have people threatening to veggie shoot people two hours into the gamee. On November 21 2014 07:12 sicklucker wrote: No my main reason was you were the only one to town read ve. Hes super town but many people scumed him On November 22 2014 03:15 sicklucker wrote: Well why are you town. I had you on my scum list I dont think you should be shocked. I can always unvote if you come off towny here ^ similar to marv thing that's just in 2 pages of filter and the majority of it is page 1 of your filter | ||
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On January 21 2015 03:08 sicklucker wrote: Look at mspaint where im scum. Ve/hf/hopeless were all fighting and calling each other mafia. What do I do? I sit back and dont post at all day 1 or even day 2. I dont freakin come out and tell everyone their obvious towns as mafia thats pretty dumb. VisceraEyes is pretty town here . I dont think someone with 16k posts is going to make a 10 page case right out of the gete with pretty small evidence. I truly believe he thinks what he says. On November 21 2014 04:17 sicklucker wrote: I kinda wanna mislynch you again to ff ^_^. I got some time to contribute rereading the thread. ritoky is town. Hes trying to keep the peace and get that horribly overreacted fight done with. I dont think a mafia ever has the balls or the motive to keep the peace when we have people threatening to veggie shoot people two hours into the gamee. Rayn- Like his reads doing his usual aggressive townshit the fact he was the first one to call ve town I liked verymuch FF- He accepted peace after a rocky game thats very towny to me ve- Insanely confident I have a hard time believing he goes that hard on nothing if hes mafia. ritoky - My top town I think Hes trying to keep the peace and get that horribly overreacted fight done with. I dont think a mafia ever has the balls or the motive to keep the peace when we have people threatening to veggie shoot people two hours into the gamee. On November 21 2014 07:12 sicklucker wrote: No my main reason was you were the only one to town read ve. Hes super town but many people scumed him On November 22 2014 03:15 sicklucker wrote: Well why are you town. I had you on my scum list I dont think you should be shocked. I can always unvote if you come off towny here ^ similar to marv thing that's just in 2 pages of filter and the majority of it is page 1 of your filter | ||
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On January 21 2015 04:25 sicklucker wrote: Hf the reason hts owned you in carol was because you underestimated her and asume her doing nothing was her town game but its not. I knew better and scum read her for it. you were in that game so YOU KNOW I DO SCUM READ HER FOR DOING NOTHING. so how am i lying? She "owned" us because the person we sent our presents to decided to afk so we couldn't rb or kill her and instead had to do damage control. We quite clearly knew she was a medic and who she had saved, it's all in the qt. Regardless, I read her mafia game and her town games and they aren't really the same and I don't find anything you are saying convicning. AND YOU STILL FUCKING IGNORED WHAT I SAID AGAIN JESUS CHRIST IS IT THAT HARD??? | ||
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On January 21 2015 01:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Vote Count sicklucker (6): liancourt, Holyflare, Marvellosity (2): Oatsmaster (1): KelsierSC (0): Vivax (0): Half the Sky (0): Not voted (4): Alakaslam, VayneAuthority, Oatsmaster, KelsierSC Currently, sicklucker is being pulled into the void. The Void's pull is growing stronger. remains. ^updated the vote count slame, wile e., damd, slam, vayne, oats, kelsier are all not voting or at least haven't formed a solid opinion anti/pro sicklucker and I'd like them to do that plzty | ||
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On January 21 2015 04:34 sicklucker wrote: Im ignoring you on this. Like I know I didnt lie you just dont agree with me. Ive seen you do this in town vs town spots before. Im not sure what your even arguing about and thats the truth my only hope is to find scum now. i don't honestly understand how you can look at the post I made with a giant bunch of quotes and say that I don't AGREE with you when there's absolutely nothing to AGREE with. You state that you don't play as mafia by giving free town reads right here: On January 21 2015 03:08 sicklucker wrote: Look at mspaint where im scum. Ve/hf/hopeless were all fighting and calling each other mafia. What do I do? I sit back and dont post at all day 1 or even day 2. I dont freakin come out and tell everyone their obvious towns as mafia thats pretty dumb. then I post a giant post of quotes stating otherwise and you just play dumb over and over and over and over again | ||
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On January 21 2015 04:35 sicklucker wrote: Like you spam the thread. I dont even know what the original "lie" was plz repost while I filter dive you it this is frusterating # hjewihjwehweuhnewjhwehes bhewhewh we hwe hew hwe hwe jwe jwe ITS AT THE TOP OF THIS EXACT FUCKING PAGE THAT I'VE REPOSTED ABOUT 4 TIMES NOW holy fucking shit | ||
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On January 21 2015 04:37 sicklucker wrote: Is this where I gave ve a town read? How is that a lie I never said I didnt do anything I just said I didnt do much and I was very obvious mafia that game from inactivity You said you are an obvious mafia by the way you just sit back. You didn't sit back really at all. You also quite CLEARLY stated that you weren't a dumb mafia who gives out free town reads over and over again. You literally said this when someone called you out for giving easy town reads. I come along and prove that in fact you DO post easy free town reads all game. From just 1 page of filter I managed to pull out 5 quotes that show you do. You misrepresented your play in order to make people stop scum reading you. | ||
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On January 21 2015 04:42 sicklucker wrote: I had like a 1 or 2 page filter. I have never had a 1 or 2 page filter. If I ever do again you should probably lynch me you had 14 pages of filter.......................................................... | ||
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On January 21 2015 04:43 KelsierSC wrote: Here's where I'm at, So I didn't like vivax , damdred or lian early on. I was kind of focusing on those people and then marv and you made your cases on SL and I revisited him. I like the cases you and marv made on him, I want him to answer this case of yours when he says "I never call people obvious town when i.m mafia. that is a pretty good find" But then Damdred comes kind of out of nowhere and doesn't like SL, i'm questioning him to see if that is genuine. Then HTS also says she doesn't like SL for "sidestepping" again that felt weird because it was like she was mirroring the thread and so I set a trap for her to see what happened and to me her response was pretty scummy. Maybe I am overstating her response but to me it felt bad. So then I have 2 people I really don't like puhsing on SL. So I basically am waiting for SL to try and get this game back on track before I vote on him. I think since he got pinged out he has been more active but I am not going to throw my vote I want to see what he does. Plus vivax thinks SL is mafia so he is probably town. yiiiisss On January 21 2015 01:49 Holyflare wrote: hts kind of feels a bit like a parrot On January 21 2015 03:03 Holyflare wrote: Damd why do you feel so out of the loop? You're not really actively participating but instead are just really commenting on things. | ||
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On January 21 2015 04:48 sicklucker wrote: For example I already have 6 pages of filter this game. If I keep up that pace and make final 3 thats like 40 pages of filter or more you basically had 6 in that game day 1 too and you weren't under any pressure at all so you could just post less, unlike here so post count is irrelevant but whatever the point is you lied so it's cool | ||
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On January 21 2015 05:03 Wile E. Coyote wrote: I don't understand this. I mean I understand what you are saying but since when does slam look bad as town? Crazy? Sure. Scummy? Not really. he looks incoherent and spammy as town and more serious and posting coherent accusations as mafia in my experience | ||
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Me Marv KelsierSC Probably Towny Wile E. Coyote (maybe up) Oatsmaster (reconsider later) Null Alakaslam batsnacks (maybe up) VayneAuthority Scummy maybe? Damdred liancourt Half the Sky Sicklucker Vivax Vivax This is where I'm kind of at and it's sad that I can't be more definitive. | ||
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On January 21 2015 05:34 Alakaslam wrote: as for me being suspicious, yes it's exactly what holyflare said and you have a point SL. when I make sense, in all likelihood I am scum. Here is my answer: Pregame, I was thinking lian might be right and was preparing myself for that eventuality. So there is another wifom bomb for everyone. pretty soon I will find out how clueless I actually am and will go be myself again with some joke or something you saying you not read pm? | ||
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On January 21 2015 06:47 liancourt wrote: you know what would be fun? playing without knowing your allignment new meta right there that's not a new meta at all it's been done multiple times | ||
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On January 21 2015 07:30 Damdred wrote: Whats there to question about exactly? Kel thinks i'm scummy for the way I went about the start of the game, HF thinks i'm out of the loop, you think I look weak. These aren't exactly accusations that can be met head on and question them exactly, these are just the way they are righ tnow. what happened to the person i nominated most improved????? | ||
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On January 21 2015 07:37 Koshi wrote: Holyflare. How mafia are you? absolutely 0 mafias | ||
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On January 21 2015 07:41 Alakaslam wrote: no I am asking you to tell me the color of the moon's dark side turquoise! | ||
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On January 21 2015 07:21 Koshi wrote: ##vote: Alakaslam Looks like he is hot and bothered. wouldn't say hot and bothered but serious/trying to appear not serious | ||
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On January 21 2015 07:49 batsnacks wrote: It's either proven and relevant or HF has been pushing you based on lies for most of this cycle. Weren't there ~5 posts worth of town reads in the first page of your filter last time you were scum? I thought that was why everyone was voting you. this is true but was voting him long before that | ||
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On January 21 2015 07:53 batsnacks wrote: How long before? I thought we voted him right after he went from voting marv for "pressure" to marv being the "towniest town whoever towned" in like 13 minutes. And then he said vivax was obv town. yes then, which was before the whole quotes thing | ||
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On January 21 2015 08:04 Koshi wrote: Well I don't want to lynch SL at all. But I will revisit him in the morning. gn. not if this is all you have to say no | ||
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On January 21 2015 09:20 batsnacks wrote: The person you replaced was one of the leading proponents of his lynch. Are you sure? even marv said he wanted to explore other avenues so not really the same | ||
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If you scum read hts for asking shit questions and not pushing anything damdred is the same. This is not the towny i voted for most improved player. | ||
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On January 21 2015 23:21 Koshi wrote: Except for the fact that there are 2 really good cases on HTS. Why are you soft pushing this Damdred lynch? Explain to me why Damdred has a bigger chance to flip mafia over HTS? The good cases in this thread disagree with you. Why can't Damdred be a townie that is overwhelmed by playing 2 games at once and can't get into the flow of this game? There are posts in Damdred his filter that support this possibility. Happened to me when I tried to play 2 games at the same time. That's why I never do it anymore. I'm not disagreeing with the other cases since you know I agreed they were good before you even joined the game. A++ reading. If you're going to be a cocky know it all dick instead of attacking my post saying it has a mafia agenda when it quite clearly doesn't how about elaborating on why he's not mafia instead because when I read his posts he's about 10 hours behind each time and saying things that people have already said which is why reading filters is shit and maybe you should spend actual time reading the game first. | ||
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Nothing he has done this game is progressive. It's all answering KelsierSC questions about marv and then saying sl was lying about some meta and then into demotivated speech. | ||
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On January 21 2015 23:50 Koshi wrote: From scum POV. Would you: either a) complain that you got 2 games to read and hide behind the fact it is hard to keep up and pretend to be useful or will be useful in the future. or b) say you are demotivated to play. He's made time excuses maybe you should read. "i have not time everyone asked what i wanted to ask when I'm here" "I've got to go, wife" "I'm running out of time" | ||
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Not to mention in the game which i forgot the name of but obi was a cop and everyone was suspicious of damdred apart from me at one point damd didn't say he was demotivated or anything like that at all afaik. It's very uncharacteristic from someone who I had to shoot n1 in carol because he got the whole mafia team right. | ||
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On January 22 2015 06:06 Wile E. Coyote wrote: I have a better idea. You just read it. I am a genius. i've actually read it and want people to sum it up for me because I wasn't very interested at all | ||
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On January 22 2015 06:16 Wile E. Coyote wrote: It kinda does. You should be one of the leading voices in this town if you are town. well some people I wanted to play with have all replaced and there's several people doing absolutely nothing and unless they're all mafia it means someone signed up and just doesn't give a shit about the other people and koshi is pretty much like playing with rayn and I'm just going to wait till he dies before I regain some motivation to do anything basically i'm tired and cba to argue so i'm just gonna hold out, either way i'm probably gonna die tonight because i'm a threat and mafia will be silly and think i'm a blue or something and my effort = 0 so sum up the game and stop being obnoxious! | ||
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On January 22 2015 06:30 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Great. Maybe we should just lynch you instead. ![[image loading]](http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/bcme1.gif) | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:06 Wile E. Coyote wrote: So you want to start another wagon to reduce the amount of wagons, eh? :D this will be the main wagon so yeh | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:13 sicklucker wrote: More on that. In new years eve mafia lian asked me if I had ever been mafia. I said wtf I was in a final 3 as mafia in a game you were in. He said I dont remember. Now hes saying im lying because I dont remember the same game correctly. Kill this man get wrecked how does that make him mafia instead of "misremembering" like you've done? | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:22 Koshi wrote: Damdred and sicklucker are so 100% town I don't even know what you people are doing. ![[image loading]](http://nowiknow.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/rain.jpeg) ![[image loading]](http://s.hswstatic.com/gif/pelican-1.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.healthyalberta.com/Images/HE-youth-eating.jpg) | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:24 Wile E. Coyote wrote: That's fine. But you need to show me why she is mafia first. boring play, scum reads only on people that are afk that haven't really been updated all game, only replying to questions and not really doing any positive digging herself probably mafia and gets my vote + gets info for other people | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:28 Half the Sky wrote: The scumhunting doesn't stop, there is more than one scum in this game. Doesn't mean I can't still push whom I want lynched. don't really feel like you've been doing this at all | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:30 Half the Sky wrote: Boring play? Sorry I don't have a "sparkling" personality or whatever you deem worthy of being in this game. I already explained to Koshi where I'm having trouble getting decent reads on some people. Replying to questions has been taking up most of my time aside from reading filters because I'm getting so many of them. Context please. Nothing to do with a sparkling personality, you just are more interactive and more inquisitive in your town games and it looks towny whereas here I haven't particularly seen you do anything above and beyond the course of null duty which is uncharacteristic, even in your town game where you tried to play scummy (carol). This is specifically what i'm talking about, you aren't interested in finding things out more than replying to people's questions about what you think instead. | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:36 Wile E. Coyote wrote: It would be more convincing if you said who you are talking about or why her flip is more revealing then let's say Sicklucker's. then be a good boy and vote hts and i'll do it? | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:38 Koshi wrote: So are we up for Oats/Alakaslam shenanigans or can I sit on lian? get on hts | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:40 Wile E. Coyote wrote: That's not the way/order things work dude. well it's what you're going to live with because it's not happening the other way around | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:43 Wile E. Coyote wrote: You have also given great reaons why SL is scum. i've got reasons not to kill him now so lynch hts | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:45 Damdred wrote: Hf sheep me believe in your nominee who actually did stuff today absolutely not, vote hts and I don't even care if you have a town read on her just do it | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:37 Holyflare wrote: this is my opinion on what i've read. My experience with you is irrelevant because if you take away the meta i'm talking about my case is that you don't care about solving the game but would rather reply to questions and focus on lurkers | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:47 Half the Sky wrote: Why are you coaxing someone to vote any town read? Maybe Koshi had a point asking how mafia you were. because his town read is wrong and he should be voting mafia | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:50 Wile E. Coyote wrote: lol? Lynching her right now would be shenanigans. There are 2 bigger wagons! i don't really care because i started this a long while ago and everyone just afk'd | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:52 Koshi wrote: Guess I am stuck voting lian over anybody then. It's sad but he deserves it most. I can't vote hts. I can't vote sicklucker. I can't vote damdred. stop being such a fucking pussy and vote with me | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:53 Koshi wrote: I am thinking the same of you. I just gave great reasons to scum read her and you qq and afk'd for pretty much the last hour i've been talking about her | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:53 Half the Sky wrote: Holyflare, I really like how you didn't care as of two hours ago, and NOW YOU'RE SCREAMING ALL OF A DAMN SUDDEN kicking and screaming when I said MULTIPLE times people have had their different reasons for scumreading others. i don't care if you like it or not at all it's what I always do when I have a lynch that I want | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:54 Wile E. Coyote wrote: HF: "Let's not allow shenanigans. Push the main wagon." Pushes the smallest wagon. ??? how is this relevant with 5 minutes to go!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:55 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Do you even care who of Lian and SL gets lynched? i care that I want hts lynched and absolutely NOBODY is talking about the reasons but instead are talking about the wagon numbers pathetic pathetic pathetic | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:55 Half the Sky wrote: Holyflare, and his bullying tactics... The question needs repeating: HOW SCUM ARE YOU!!?!?!??!? 0 100% towny for wanting to lynch mafia | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:55 sicklucker wrote: If I vote hts who has the tie break between me and lian? lian has the most votes now so if you switch he dies but he will switch to hts anyway so vote | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:57 Half the Sky wrote: Funny that, Holyflare, you are the one who said post-game Carol that people needed to be right and convincing. You berated Liancourt for pissing 4 cycles for the way he was browbeating and now FUNNY THAT YOU ARE DOING THE SAME BLOODY THING. i literally do not care | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:58 sicklucker wrote: Come on guys let the veg deal with lian. We need one vote to kill a more likely mafia. ffs vote for hts and she will die it's not hard!?!?!? | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:58 Wile E. Coyote wrote: HF is just blatantly contradicting himself and noone seems to bat an eye. I have not contradicted myself once | ||
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On January 22 2015 08:19 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Yeah, because we are totally able to lynch mafia right now. No he flipped town because absolutely nobody gave any crap about reasons to lynch people. I even gave reasons and you said it was cool and still just stuck doing nothing. Each and every one of you apart from kelsier and me is guilty. | ||
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On January 22 2015 02:13 Koshi wrote: liancourt/Wile E. Coyote/Half the Sky/Oatsmaster/Alakaslam My new scumpool. Uh huh koshi | ||
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On January 22 2015 08:28 Koshi wrote: I might have been seduced somewhere underway. Between when? You calling her posts boring or you saying her questions lead nowhere? So much seducing. | ||
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On January 22 2015 08:30 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Why? Because I pushed a wagon that actually had a chance of success instead? Between you asking redundant questions in a time of high pressure like "why can't you be bothered" instead of questions about the game, especially as you town read me throughout the game, this has been a recurring theme all game. Also the fact that you asked why hts was scummy instead of doing any digging yourself and then essentially ignored the points with it to continue doing nothing On January 22 2015 07:24 Wile E. Coyote wrote: That's fine. But you need to show me why she is mafia first. ^ like wtf the whole post and you highlight the part about gets info about other people?? On January 22 2015 07:36 Wile E. Coyote wrote: It would be more convincing if you said who you are talking about or why her flip is more revealing then let's say Sicklucker's. you want to know more about these other people when you've been around the entire game and should know that people have been referencing hts non-stop, i've essentially been afk for almost 24h and I know this On January 22 2015 07:36 Wile E. Coyote wrote: It would be more convincing if you said who you are talking about or why her flip is more revealing then let's say Sicklucker's. and then instead of discussing it further, looking at anything yourself, or actually doing anything... all you are concerned about is how many votes someone has | ||
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On January 22 2015 08:34 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Like HF didn't even care about the leading wagons. Did he ever comment on Lian during the last hour? If you think he is town you vote the alternative who is Sicklucker. If you think he is scum you have no reason to be angry. I didn't want to vote on someone who had done absolutely nothing all game over someone who I think is mafia and I don't want to vote on sl who you even asked me about and I responded. On January 22 2015 07:44 Holyflare wrote: i've got reasons not to kill him now so lynch hts | ||
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On January 22 2015 08:41 Wile E. Coyote wrote: The only reason I townread you earlier was because you and marv were agreeing on everything and basically had the same reads I had. You then disappeared until right before deadline and completely changed some reads. Why on earth would I still townread you? I said I was away at a lecture and couldn't be bothered. I said I wanted to consolidate a lynch and kelsier asked me who so I read filters and became incredibly sure on hts, it's pretty simple. Especially as she was actually in my list the entire game so I haven't changed a single thing apart from lynching a sure mafia over someone who could be mafia or might not have been mafia by virtue of him not playing the game (a coin flip) if marv and me were agreeing and then I disappeared your read should not have changed on me at all | ||
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On January 22 2015 08:44 Koshi wrote: I am proud of myself. Doing this plynch was a good step for me. It will happen again in future games. gn. it better not | ||
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On January 22 2015 08:45 Wile E. Coyote wrote: And you quoted a few posts there which clearly show that I am trying to figure out your alignment. Grats. why are you trying to determine my alignment when everyone in the game has me as a town read and I am not one of the leading wagons that you so dearly wanted to preserve? how is it relevant to any of the lynches that you were so stubborn to shy away from? why not just ask about hts seeing as me and marv agreed about my list earlier and see if my points were good instead of asking redundant questions about ME?????????? | ||
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On January 22 2015 08:46 Wile E. Coyote wrote: You completely flipped on SL and of course my read changes when you don't seem to give a shit what kind of argument is this?! i wonder why i'd want to lynch sl when he's wanted to lynch the person i think is mafia hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm | ||
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On January 22 2015 13:14 Damdred wrote: No I'm done I took my fucking time to break down what was happening during eod and talk about wagons and significance of them I'm not having fun and all I'm being told this game is I'm fucking bad from oats, wilie does these little fucking picking at me posts with no content and just disparages me. Hf fucking talks bad about me and ignores any work I do, this goes beyond scum hunting the rudest I've been this whole thread is telling vivax that he was being useless for talking about stuff that's in game. which I'm sorry about. But this is just dumb. so I'll just afk until I die or just sheep koshi or hf who knows but I'm not spending one moment more in this thread then I need to, you people can just so all the work i don't really think you're totally mafia but it's exceptionally annoying when you don't vote with me because hts is like 100% confirmed mafia, she only appeared when I called out her name to throw shit back at me which wasn't even this game related and then left as soon as lian was mislynched | ||
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Oatsmaster, Damdred, VayneAuthority were the lone voters. There is a good chance that there is one scum in this group of three even if I include myself. Just looking at the people who were here and active at the time, Damdred refused to move onto one of his town reads in HTS or SL but did not consider moving onto lian to strengthen that lynch which is suspect as it looks like he was trying to shift blame potentially or just trying not to be on a town lynch. weird weird weird, the second quote is exceptionally more weird than the first too HTS was trying to save herself and SL wanted to switch but was unable to as he potentially could hammer himself. On this wagon I think HTS has the greatest shot at being scum even though I townread him before EoD. (If there is a scum on this wagon) what is a town hts supposed to do in this situation and why if you are town reading her does she end up in your scum list?? don't you think mafia would want to stay on an easy town mislynch instead of switching to a vocal one if she's town and having to explain themselves? The extreme lack of care even by myself to consolidate on a lynch is really disturbing in this case, it caused the votes to be extremely spread out and really helpful for scum to hide in it. But I believe there is one scum in the three single voters and one on both lead wagons at this point. more talking about yourself weird stuff... I also don't understand how you have your post of stuff explaining how slam is just afk and lian has an affinity for reading him and then he doesn't end up in your list but oats does and also hts who you town read ends up there too.... argh damdy T_T | ||
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On January 22 2015 13:55 Damdred wrote: Just lynch me I tried something new and obviously failed. Hts is scum due to resistance of lynch, wilie is scum for previous reasons, could be slam or oats idk why are you just flat out ignoring what i'm saying and the questions i'm asking?? | ||
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what is a town hts supposed to do in this situation and why if you are town reading her does she end up in your scum list?? don't you think mafia would want to stay on an easy town mislynch instead of switching to a vocal one if she's town and having to explain themselves? | ||
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Or I'll do that Later when I'm back. I'm 100 % on Oats being scum though. HF has been slightly townreadhing him and hard townreading Kelsier, and I don't see HF going hard after Oats for wasting his vote instead of voting HTS with him. So did marv but you don't scum read koshi. Logical. Oats also wasn't around at deadline to switch and when he was around voted for damd with me so ot wasn't really wasted. I'd argue that everyone on lian/sl wasted their votes but hey, people afk'd and fucked up. | ||
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On January 23 2015 00:32 Vivax wrote: Did anyone read my vote stuff with the Kelsier + HF * Oats theory? Your kelsier bit is pure shit and he's playing increasingly different from his mafia game(s), i'm not mafia either so at least 2/3 of your reads are actually useless. People aren't responding because you are insane and come up with the dumbest theories ever hence why you get your own category. You haven't even looked at hts other than randomly saying you think that the 2 wagons were pure town which is based on.......................? That's right 0 actual reasons. Your wild connection theories stop you from looking at the most obvious mafia (hts) in the game. | ||
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She is the most open and shut mafia in the history of this one game of mafia. On January 22 2015 07:27 Holyflare wrote: boring play, scum reads only on people that are afk that haven't really been updated all game, only replying to questions and not really doing any positive digging herself probably mafia and gets my vote + gets info for other people On January 22 2015 07:34 Holyflare wrote: Nothing to do with a sparkling personality, you just are more interactive and more inquisitive in your town games and it looks towny whereas here I haven't particularly seen you do anything above and beyond the course of null duty which is uncharacteristic, even in your town game where you tried to play scummy (carol). This is specifically what i'm talking about, you aren't interested in finding things out more than replying to people's questions about what you think instead. On January 22 2015 07:37 Holyflare wrote: this is my opinion on what i've read. My experience with you is irrelevant because if you take away the meta i'm talking about my case is that you don't care about solving the game but would rather reply to questions and focus on lurkers | ||
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On January 23 2015 01:14 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Bats looks pretty good in general in my opinion. so yeh, i've pushed hts for the longest time and you kept asking questions about it but you have no actual opinion on her at all... why is that? | ||
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Me Marv/koshi KelsierSC Probably Towny batsnacks Null Oatsmaster (reconsider later/maybe even down soon) VayneAuthority Sicklucker (probably up) Scummy Maybe? Wile E. Coyote (hmph) Alakaslam (probably should be definitely mafia) Damdred (maybeeeeee up) Definitely Mafia Half the Sky Vivax Vivax This is me for now | ||
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On January 23 2015 01:24 Wile E. Coyote wrote: I didn't pay that much attention to her until you started your push directly before deadline. Will see how I think about this considering lian flipped town later when I have time. so you have no actual comment on anything I've said at all prior to the lynch?????????????? | ||
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On January 20 2015 06:42 Holyflare wrote: Not only are you being absolutely useless posting like this but there is absolutely no negative to try and get people to take stances on someone that isn't here. Yes, marv is afk, yes he would be dejected if he rolled mafia again. That's the most obvious thing I've ever seen in this game and serves no purpose to talk about at all. If he's mafia his team will bus him and everyone's votes will have no effect. I'm making a post on oats - yes who is afk - I don't even care about oats to be honest, I care about people's responses. The game had 2 pages of content until I got here and started throwing up crap for people to talk about. Please don't be useless, it's quite obvious we shouldn't waste 48 hours talking about the same topic of if someone is going to play or isn't going to play before he's even posted 3 posts. | ||
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On January 23 2015 02:00 Vivax wrote: And that he wastes his vote on the lynches doesn't bother you one bit while you were asking for HTS to get lynched? I literally just told you he wasn't here so how is it supposed to bother me? neither was slam/va/bats | ||
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On January 22 2015 23:33 Holyflare wrote: So did marv but you don't scum read koshi. Logical. Oats also wasn't around at deadline to switch and when he was around voted for damd with me so ot wasn't really wasted. I'd argue that everyone on lian/sl wasted their votes but hey, people afk'd and fucked up. read the game plz | ||
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On January 23 2015 02:08 Vivax wrote: You seem to argue very biased in favour of Kelsier here HF. so what? you seem to argue very biased in favour of him being mafia when i'm telling you generally mafia don't make those mistakes and that he is completely different from his mafia game in both post counts AND content and you're just ignoring it | ||
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On January 23 2015 02:05 Vivax wrote: HF stop spamming. I acknowledge what you just said. Now my question is: Why aren't you bothering with Oats at all? Can you give me one conclusive read on him based on what he has done in this game? Cause half of D1 he was just throwing shit around while doing zero scumhunting. I pointed this out earlier this night. and just in case you are going to say i'm dodging this question, I'm not, I just had a mediocre town read on oats at the start of day 1 so it's waning the more afk he gets which is how he plays mafia so that's why he's dropping further down my list but he hasn't done anything so fundamentally flawed that I can read him as mafia yet hts has | ||
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On January 23 2015 02:10 Vivax wrote: Oh jesus filter size arguments again. Scummarv in Empire: "NO I CANT BE SCUM LOOK MY LAST TWO SCUMGAEMS I SUCKED". Then when I wanted to lynch him town actually believed that trash and we lost. So fuck off with filter size arguments, they make me puke. I literally just don't give a shit because if you ever READ his game and look at the CONTENT you'd realise he's not mafia but you're fucking lazy and only pick out the part I say about post counts instead. Stop being awful, stop having awful connection theories, go back to your roots and find out how to play mafia gain. You need to do this. | ||
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On January 23 2015 02:17 Vivax wrote: Zero idea of what you're saying in this post. Marv isn't in this game, I scumread him in the last, he argued with filter size that he isn't mafia. Artanis and Dam then won the game when we could have lynched marv. then maybe you need to take english lessons because it makes perfect sense I tell you that his mafia game is completely different in BOTH filter size and CONTENT and you ignore the content aspect and just whine about me using the filter size | ||
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On January 23 2015 01:02 Holyflare wrote: All you even have to do is look at the fact that hts did absolutely nothing around deadline and afk's and then when I say we should consolidate on a wagon, still nothing, when I say consolidate her she tries to wildly fling shit on me based on other games reasoning and that I must be mafia because of other games and not this one. She doesn't even try and convince me that she's town she just tries to convince other people that my personality is wrong instead of my reasoning. Then, as soon as lian flips she completely fucks off, without a single word. She just isn't interested in solving this game at all. She is the most open and shut mafia in the history of this one game of mafia. read quotes, anyone that disagrees with this is mafia or vivax category | ||
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On January 23 2015 03:24 Vivax wrote: I'm conversating with her right now and I have other people I suspect. This post just gave you more scumpoints. boo hoo, conversing with a mafia does absolutely nothing and that is why you're so blind to whoever is actual mafia, read her filter read my quotes, read everything I've posted about her she's in a position of amazing knowledge seeing as she was another wagon that I pushed for and who does she go for? another easy afk lurker oats who always plays mediocre and bad like this, nothing insightful whatsoever and rehashes damdreds read it's not even her own work | ||
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JUST READ HER PAST GAMES JESUS FUCK VIVAX | ||
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On January 23 2015 03:31 Vivax wrote: So basically you've claimed vig and that you will shoot her when scum could have a roleblocker? Smart plays. We will see after tonight's flips what you are up to. if a shot doesn't go off you know they have a rber and if i die without hts dying you know they have a rber and if i don't die in order to spread suspicion then I will absolutely demolish them | ||
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On January 23 2015 03:34 Vivax wrote: My theory is: HF is scum, claims vig. Claims roleblock, tries to lynch HTS the next day. If HF is dead and roleblocked after tonight I will be proven wrong, until then, no further talk about this. SL and Oats are scum. anyone smart should know that a rb on me doesn't effect hts' alignment at all but I would still push her | ||
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On January 23 2015 03:40 KelsierSC wrote: Got date night with me fiancee tonight. She said yes after 4 years. Might be around for nk dont know congrats | ||
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On January 23 2015 03:36 Holyflare wrote: me being around at eod when absolutely nobody else was actually makes me the opposite of mafia, if i couldn't be fucked to play and read your filter and found out you were mafia and wanted to lynch mafia instead of a towny then it's quite obvious where my motivation was even if I was wrong and you were town I was the only one actually pushing a mafia target and not afking which should give you the opposite impression why is your impression the opposite to ^ hts? | ||
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On January 23 2015 02:38 Half the Sky wrote: Early on I scumread SL because he posting something along the line of him having no scumreads and I said he should find one. There was the dodging which HF called him on. Later on, he was posting more and I was able to follow his thinking and what he felt on his scumreads. Particularly towards EoD, he was pushing Lian, but that was obviously after I had switched votes. On January 23 2015 02:40 Half the Sky wrote: To clarify for Kels, the early gameplay is still leaning in my head. I said before he can post erratically as any alignment, which is why I'm not townreading him. this really doesn't look like a scum read to me | ||
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Early on I scumread SL because he posting something along the line of him having no scumreads and I said he should find one. There was the dodging which HF called him on. Later on, he was posting more and I was able to follow his thinking and what he felt on his scumreads. Particularly towards EoD, he was pushing Lian, but that was obviously after I had switched votes The red and green show that they cancel each other out and even make him towny so the only reason you actually have to scum read sicklucker is the dodging of questions but you already acknowledge he's an erratic poster and can do that as either alignment so that means nothing. Where does your scum read come from!>?!??!?!?!?! | ||
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On January 23 2015 03:59 Half the Sky wrote: Holyflare, what you did to me in Carol was opportunistic, and it's the same thing here. That is what I was driving at. No, it really wasn't. You were the medic and a person that I could push a mislynch on and I was being lynched. I was FORCED to make a case to not die. It was not opportunistic and I even said post game that I was actually afk the whole day so me coming in at the deadline meant nothing (it's in the mafia qt too). So this is completely different and makes no actual sense as any mafia motivation. How is it opportunistic to want to lynch someone I have a mafia read on over a town liancourt in the slightest while everyone is afk and the wagons are split with the votes 3-4-2. It's the towniest shit in the world to try and get people to consolidate the wagons. I don't understand how ANYONE can think otherwise. | ||
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On January 23 2015 04:06 Koshi wrote: Yes. I am mafia. Remember this mafia. Don't shoot your friend. Cool | ||
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On January 23 2015 04:18 Koshi wrote: I want to point out I started the slam lynch 1 minute after I entered the thread. People were not pleased. I lynched the not pleased people. i called it out long before you even joined | ||
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On January 23 2015 04:23 sicklucker wrote: I think ive consistently been her top scum read all game read the thread I literally just posted that she wasn't | ||
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On January 23 2015 04:38 Koshi wrote: If in some sicko world I am shot please make sure you also pay attention to batsnacks. no | ||
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On January 23 2015 04:47 Wile E. Coyote wrote: But if SL is mafia wouldn't it make more sense for mafia to be on Lian or you instead of wasting their vote? Yet you are scumreading damdred and oats. Something doesn't add up. ^^^^^^ ding ding ding | ||
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On January 23 2015 04:58 sicklucker wrote: Na shes just being wissy washy on me tonight probably trying to save a vote. Who cares were killing her tomorrow. Her read switch changes nothing im voting her anyway but its a good reason to continue doing it. I literally have no idea what you are writing. She wasn't wishy washy she just made a conclusion that nobody would ever make but whatever not gonna complain if she gets voted. | ||
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On January 23 2015 05:52 sicklucker wrote: Hts can you give me your reads at some point. I dont even know what your reads are. It makes it convenient for us when we kill you tomorrow and you should probably be shot tonight too. This guy is not actually reading the same game. | ||
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On January 23 2015 05:54 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Doesn't matter. That certainly wasn't SLs thought process. can you actually explain to me what you're talking about in regards to this because you seem to be saying sl is mafia for it and i'm not really following why | ||
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On January 23 2015 06:00 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Then you should learn to read. I am not explaining this a third time. well then I'll just never lynch sl and you can blame yourself because I'm telling you I don't understand what you are writing and how it makes sl mafia | ||
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On January 23 2015 06:05 Wile E. Coyote wrote: What is there that is hard to understand? Seriously. I know you are not dumb. you're saying hts is scum reading damd and someone when she shouldn't be and then you're saying sl thinks he was safe so he must be mafia because hts or his scum read could have voted him when even though in his world they are both town? | ||
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On January 23 2015 06:09 Wile E. Coyote wrote: SL says there is no way he was getting lynched. His explanation for this is that his townreads would not have switched to him. He totally forgot that mafia could. The situation was that he WAS the lynch until very close to deadline and even then it only took one mafia to vote on him for him to die. Especially his #1 scumread HTS could have easily killed him. why would his #1 scum read switch to sl when his #1 scum read doesn't even scum read him???????? why would he assume mafia would switch to him if he's town if the lynch was between 2 townies? how does this make him mafia? | ||
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On January 23 2015 06:33 Wile E. Coyote wrote: It does make him mafia because he did not even consider the possibility that mafia could ever vote him. He just said "my townreads were ok with me so I would never get lynched" which makes no sense for a townie to think in his situation. i still don't see how that makes him mafia rather than illogical | ||
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On January 23 2015 06:24 sicklucker wrote: Oh I never thought of this. But ill tell you what a mafia will never hammer a town in a town vs town votes. You cant see my role pm but im town. If she votes me she looks super scummy | ||
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On January 23 2015 06:45 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Maybe because HTS was voting lian? So not only does scumreading those 2 together not make that much sense but if they are both scum then she is hammering lian in that situation and SL should be REALLY afraid of a switch. and what's he supposed to do in this situation? unvote lian?? | ||
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