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We will be lynching day one and might be jarjar today | ||
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Tell me where you are at in the game this second Ls. RS its possible but voting feript out is like an rng lynch it can hit scum but who knows. | ||
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Easy game easy life. | ||
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I'll care Ina bit. | ||
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tlcool is in the scum pile. Mostly the three names were a reaction test to see how people would look at it. I don't scum read people for 0 posts lol. LS is probable town. JarJar made some interesting posts just now I need to go back over | ||
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I think tlcool is the scum here ##Vote TL Cool Name | ||
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He had jarjar in the thread but just dropped everything found one post he liked and moved on to try to make me look scummy. This guy has no follow up, has very little thoughts and is just looking for an easy target at this point. This is our first scum <3 | ||
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You say that you haven't analys'd Jarjar yet, but then why go after him and then one post later say I love this post and never mention him again? There seems to be a disconnect between what you say and what you ar edoing. | ||
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Town: Trfel: Slightly different from what I am used to in other games, the pressure vote is not alignment indicative as Geript is a good enough player to do this with post restrictions as scum or as town. However the followup to people commenting on his stance is really good, he calls to attention the problems in LS stance at the time which is a good observation and shows that someone is really reading the game. Hes inquisitive about why people are doing things and he seems to be in the thick of all talks when hes in the thread. For now hes in the town pile and i'm pretty sold that he shouldn't be the lynch today at all. LightningStrike: Some of the stances he has taken seem a bit flimsy at times and it seems like he reverts on them as time passes sometimes. Which gave him a few scum points at first from me. But when questioned about where he was in the game he took little to no time at having actual somewhat developed thoughts on the people in the game. Was really quick to answer and hes not scared to push what he is thinking in the thread (or just put it out there) Pretty sure he is town here. RS: Hes town, he pressures people. Hes reading the thread, he has follow up on what he says and hes asking opinions to try to figure out peoples alignments. Wouldn't lynch him today at all. Null: LM: Why you not have your neck out and giving actual thoughts instead of just reacting to what people say to you . Warwaffle: not really rememerable but hasn't posted much Shining: where are you baby doll? Breshke: Who are you again? what do you think? Scum: TLCoolName: I have talked about him before now and I will reinterate. He attacks JarJar at one point and JarJar answers him, instead of interacting with him and trying to figure out his alignment. He disengages and says oh I like this post and never returns to it. When confronted with this information he says he just hasn't analyzed what JarJar has done. Shouldn't be much to analysis and Jarjar was in the thread at the time so he missed a good opoortunity to actually analysis the player and figure out his alignment. And then he switched to talking about me or rather slow pushing a target, he quoted something before the game started. He waited for someone else to vote and threw his vote down with that person. He claims it was a reaction test, but his reaction is not one a town would generally make. Instead of talking it through and trying to understand alignments of both he retreats from the confrontation and says just do analysis on everyone else. This guy is scum, hes not interested in finding out who is scum or pressuring people. He wants to find an easy target park there after someone else has fired the first shot and go on his merry way. General thoughts: I didn't bother to do everyone yet, Geripts huge post is full of good things that I want more peoples comments on. He might be onto something but I haven't rad DP filter or contextualized it yet. GB could really be town here, anger at the start seems authentic and GB hates being VT. Some good thoughts but not as many as drunk bear should usually have at this point. I'm undecided about JarJar currently, his recent postings looked pretty ok, but his previous postings looked bad. So can't really put him in a null town or scum currently but might lynch him depending on play as the game goes along. Overall cool is the scummiest thing in the thread and people should comment on what I wrote. | ||
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On January 18 2015 02:43 jarjarbinks wrote: Lol im guessing saying I suck at this game is a bad way to go. Gereipt asked for my reads on people. I thought I had good quotes to follow up my thoughts on some of the most active guys. The inactive guys not so much. Still wanted to shed my thoughts on them though in case. Damdred: for your reaction vote, did you include shining in your scum list to see if anyone would jump on it based on what was said before the game started? Or did you just do it because you needed someone else to through on your scum team? No that's not an acceptable answers hehe, never downplay yourself at all. Well, shining is generally lurky as scum in my experience with him. So I was hoping if he was lurking and just reading it would draw him out into the thread, and also I was wanting to see who would jump and try to call me scum for pregame/lurker lynch. It got somewhat a desired result | ||
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What do you think of what I said about cooltl ls | ||
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I've stated (if you read my large post) JarJars early postings were bad and his later ones were better. I think he is lynchable today depending on how he does and other responses he gives | ||
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We will probably disagree about tr but I think i'm right. The point of D1 is to find mafia and kill mafia !!!!!!!!! Who are your scum today rs | ||
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On January 18 2015 03:07 geript wrote: Initial thought: I like Damdred's read on cool. Need to double check but it feels right. Damdred do you really disagree with my Trfel read that much? Last and most important point: you can call me Geript, getmoript, gayripped, supercoolasdudewiththebigdick. Under no circumstances am I to be called gereipt. I disagree for now, I need to see his posting a bit more. His postings are vastly different from the previous games. I'll have to relook at your read to see where I am on it. Geript why you trying to pocket me | ||
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I say easy game this is scum team x. Reaction test here are my reads. I explain LS read and you ask why I flip flopped on it O_o. | ||
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On January 18 2015 03:56 rsoultin wrote: Interesting. I don't dislike your play so far...but that response is interesting. Can anyone else point out why it raises concerns? DP could be town or a mafia partner if i'm mafia. or I could just be lazy town currently | ||
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Gotta reread | ||
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Geript has some good thoughts in his posts. I can't really tell his alignment yet | ||
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Are you scum with no scum reads and not knowing how to go about it? | ||
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And then when we drop to your next uspicion it isn't even the person you then pointed to (dp) it is instead two lurkers? Also sure that's true about that previous post...but what about how you came flying out of the blue in the last student tmafia against bats with a huge case, even in the past newbie game you were halfway inactive and you still had pretty strong scum reads 24-36 hours into the game? | ||
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On January 18 2015 06:44 GlowingBear wrote: Just remember he was coached by me last game. Just please have this in mind. god help us | ||
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Game looks kinda difficult to find scum right now. | ||
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I think your post on dp had good direction, had clear thought patterns and pulled from past experiences in context for that part. It looks really towny from you and so its a really good post I don't think it proves one way or another about dp. But I'm procrastinating because of things diving him because dp has a way of being meh when I read his post. I think shining is telling the truth about having limited net and drunk which isn't alignment indicative. but his post shows that he read what little of the thread there was to read and he had thoughts about it and was able to articulate them into reasonable points about people. I hate list posts but his weren't overly bad this time. I'm actually moving tr down my townlist and sinking. I had the huge post and the reasoning for not having scum reads is pretty bad band didn't sound genuine to me. And the interactions with GB just feel weird at points. | ||
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Tr might be a good lynch after thinking more I really hate those long posts that are not really hard stances and no scum reads. | ||
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Geript you will have to point me to the post. I'm not sure if id lynch jarjar today but maybe. Still got time for more postings. yes a bit odd | ||
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Glad you read LS games, he's unlynchable for awhile at least. Meta stuff for him is like crack no matter how many times we say no bad he goes back time and again. Not sure why be not reading your filter is that bad do, I just don't want to and can't make myself so a bit lazy. Today I'd be open to lynching jarjar tr maybe GB but that's a bit doubtful. | ||
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And that's what GB does, likes killing lurkers early | ||
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Think I said you wouldn't be last page... but lynching GB d1 is fun! | ||
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I think it's halfway towny of him. | ||
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°Not really interested with interactions just these blurbs an then disappearing. ° LM isn't adding real thoughts as in most of what he says has already been said before. ° Has no real reads that we know of besides slightly auspicious of jarjat for meh reasons and so so on beshke. ° no real interactions to speak of ° look at season of a witch foe last lm Scum game. | ||
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Is where in at What scummy lukerst | ||
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On January 19 2015 03:43 GlowingBear wrote: Ok, damdred has been dodging me. I'm lynching him. ##Unvote ##Vote: Damdred I'm waiting my lunch to be ready. Meanwhile, I'll catch up. Not sure how I've dodged... He'll I've answered everything posed to me | ||
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Never told me I was dodging | ||
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GB besides a couple of moments you have been meh and uninteresting . | ||
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GB was being boring now he's not. | ||
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No I haven't read dps filter | ||
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Geript is pretty town, if he's alive after d2 and no roles claim he's pulling a Russian mafia but he looks super towny LS is town based on hi a addiction to meta as town. Jjb is mafia I think | ||
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Jarjar isn't really finding Scum and caught him in a lie about me voting GB when I never did. The slight Scum slip. And he's not really hinting so yea. | ||
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Either way Tommorow look at rs chainsaw defending jarjar. | ||
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I've played almost 18 games with GB probably. Give him a pass today, this is in hi a town wheel house. Like read hearthstone mafia this is how he went about it to. | ||
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Also shinings post is bad and has a ma f2f is tone about it watch him after this lynch | ||
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Anyway, GB probably town jarjar and shining trying to figure who to hammer so lm and me are town. Jarjat is the lynch shining Tommorow maybe rs the next for chain saw defending. Super crummy play from a couple here at eod ##unvite ##Vote jarjar | ||
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Either way GB shouldn't be lynched today I think. | ||
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Anyway serious last thing in case I die | ||
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Jarjar, tr and shining Scum team. | ||
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LS and dp switch | ||
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Or wifom whatever, shining I most mafia in the thread. | ||
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This doesn't make then 100% but signings vote is bad. He's mafia I think | ||
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Shinings cote was horrible he said he was in between me and lm voting tried to hammer gb. And caught jarjar slip about the setup | ||
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Shining is caught I think, gotta figure out if tr is mafia and the last. | ||
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I didn't mean to ill rethink this | ||
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Firstly, there are two possible scenerios that involve a tracker. One is Cop tracker and one is tracker doctor. I thought about it as JarJar softing, but he cannot possibly know still that a medic exists in this setup as we are down to a 50/50 if he is the tracker. If we see a doc/cop flip obviously hes mafia, there might be something there and its still possibly a scum slip instead of a soft. I know it sounds tin foil, but its something we have to consider down the line and JarJar isn't confirmed if he isn't shot obviously. And if cop flips and doc flips.outs we at least have one mafia already there. So just figured I would talk it out before moving down. Trfel should be the lynch tomorrow, maybe LM, and we still have to evaluate a couple more people. I'm going to heal Dp tonight obviously, hes the most towny person in the game. I"m not sure if we should kill breshke tomorrow I like some of his posts but we need to pressure him a bit more, and talk me through your EoD rsoultin. | ||
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JarJar (claimed tracker) damdred GB LM Warwaffle (lynched) | ||
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On January 19 2015 11:58 rsoultin wrote: Eh, messy. Was trying to work out my thoughts with Lonemeow (ironic, I know) since the only one I was pretty sure on was Trfel, but no one wanted to lynch him and I didn't have any further arguments apart from what I already posted. Plus, yeah, I get stubborn and tunnel about people being insincere, when their words don't line up with their actions. GB never felt like a good lynch to me. I didn't want to lynch LS. I feel I've got a pretty good tone read on my brother, so I didn't want to lynch JarJar. And no, I didn't want to lynch WW either. I actually was still deciding what to do when JarJar claimed and didn't see it until I'd already changed my vote. There was something like 90 seconds left at that time. If anything, I found the lynch immensely frustrating. And much as I think that geript can't be scum unless I'm wrong on either JarJar or GB, that trfel in two pools thing still is niggling at me. It may not mean anything, though, odd as it seems and much as geript didn't want to actually explain it >< Look at Russian Mafia for geripts last scum game, it was a really good scum game for him one that he probably should of hard carried to the victory. Honestly its one of the reasons hes not my #1 town, he makes me more paranoid than HF does as scum I think. Its a pretty small lynch pool for you tomorrow then? | ||
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On January 19 2015 12:00 LightningStrike wrote: Well in the post you said you were going to heal DP and idk how it would of been auto corrected to that unless you are posting from a phone. Yes i'm posting from a phone. Why would you draw attention to this during the night? | ||
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On January 19 2015 12:02 rsoultin wrote: Yeah, I guess you're right, Damdred. It could be a false claim, technically, since mafia knows the setup. Just not sure where that gets us? Do you want to proceed as if it were false? Why do you think that Trfel is the lynch tomorrow? You got onto us for not being willing to lynch inactives last game, and we've only got two mislynches left before scum wins. Obviously jarjar will be alive tomorrow more than likely just for wifom if hes tracker and more than likely he will be blocked if he is the true tracker. I'm not going to give scum strategy so we shouldn't talk about it to much in depth, but until we start seeing some flips of another power role we need to just ignore it for now more than likely. I don't have much to substantiate with but the "softing/scum slip" earlier makes me a bit weary to believe the claim. We have little inactives, I think we can eliminate shining from lynch tomorrow. Breshke needs a good day, LM needs a decent day. Those to me are our really only inactives and they aren't spammy but are here if we have a cop I would check one of them and hope to get lucky. Trfel has been the least interested in the days activity I think, and has really changed the play from all of the other games I played with him in. Even in the last newbie it seemed very similar to carol/last student mafia. Was pretty strong even if he wasn't as inactive, and as blue in carol he was really strong. This just seems like a weird mirror like performance, playing down his ability no real scum reads sheeping instead of pushing. Being wrong is good in mafia it helps you get more information instead of laying back | ||
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Damdred DP GB Geript Rsoultin Shining LS Breshke LM Tref I'm leaving jarjar out currently because unless we have a doc flip+red check on someone we should ignore his alignment and if we get a counter claim obviously. I'm not so sure we should lynch breshke but i'm having a hard time because of where my town reads are currently. | ||
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On January 19 2015 12:13 rsoultin wrote: ... Forgive me if this sounds crusty but why the hell are you coming to this conclusion now when I've been saying it all along? >< I stopped pushing trfel because I couldn't get any traction and started wondering if I was just being a stubborn ass again and blind to what everyone else was seeing. Nights the best time for re-evaluation and talking through your reads and scum hunting more I say. If I get shot I need my thoughts out there anyway. there felt like a good bit of resistance to a tr lynch, and I felt LM and cool was scummier at the moments, after a relook at tr filter I found a lot of scum traits. also I considered tr was a blue so I didn't want to bring it up but then I checked on his other blue game and it directly mirrored his VT game even though he was more absent in carol he bled town whenever he was there. Not so here, I think hes scummy now though. And I was halfway afk through most of th eday | ||
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On January 19 2015 12:13 The Shining wrote: Damdred - Yes. I'm leaning you and GB as slight town after getting my responses from you two. I'm not sure how much weight I'll put into the D1 tracker claim from JJB but its definitely something I want to vet. Hard. If it is a true claim, it was mentioned scum might leave him be and RB him. I want to see how and why WWs wagon picked up after the claim from Jar Jar and if any voters look like scum trying to jump on a wagon to save scum JJ with his possible fake claim. I leave work in an hour so a few hours after that, I can dig into votes more in depth. The last minute vote and timing of LM and subsequent disappearance makes it possible this was a mafia lynchtrain as well. Again, need to look more into LM once I get home. One of these 2 is scum, just not sure which. And I agree that JJ living through tonight doesnt automatically mean he is scum. Also, LS, that seemed like a horrible play if you're really Town. Whether Damdred was bread crumbing, hinting at it or it really was just a typo, the fact of the matter is it wasn't obvious until you yelled "HEY DID YOU JUST CLAIM DOCTOR?!" so now the entire thread, including scum, saw it. I really don't like the feeling I just got from you doing that. Do you think that the train was started by a scum in geript or scum just took advantage of it? | ||
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Anyway theres one wagon that we all jumped off of right as it was forming and that was LM. I think it ended up tied with me right before everyone jumped on jarjar. | ||
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Going into EoD, I had a few problems with LM. These problems were mainly, a disconnect from the game. The catch up posts were incredibly behind and out of context they looked ok but in context seemed really disjoined and didn't flow well with the thread. Wasn't really interested in interactions much going into the day either. I decided to look into EoD for LM and a few thing struck out at me. The last quote in the spoilers is interesting to me, the vote hinges on WW voting with his scum read on tr. When if you check the votes and pay attention WW was on GB well before Tr even made a move that way. So it was an excuse to strengthen a mislynch which is telling to me, why lie and over explain your vote? At the start of the quotes (previously jarjar was only mentioned twice and never was really sure if it was a scum read or what but was non committal) Asks why wouldn't you lynch jarjar, makes some noncommittal marks about somewhat scum reading me because it looks like my train is about to take off. Next quote is a inconsitancy as LM never said that he didn't want to vote Jarjar, and also I think the train was going against GB and it was better to say I shouldn't be the lynch at this moment. Overall it looks like someone just trying to find a safe spot for a vote, lying and over explaining everything while not really trying to rock the vote while parroting at points to. pretty sure this person is scum. Quotes are in filter + Show Spoiler + On January 19 2015 03:45 LoneMeow wrote: Definitely not lynching LightningStrike today. Why not jarjarbinks? As a matter of fact, I do agree with that, but I want to hear your reasons. I need to reread Damdred and geript. On January 19 2015 06:47 LoneMeow wrote: Not lynching Damdred today unless there's something new on him, I quickly read his filter and I think he's more likely town than not. I prefer jarjarbinks over GlowingBear despite what I said earlier about not wanting to lynch him today. jarjarbinks just seems to be making apologies and sitting in the background whereas GlowingBear is very vocally pushing for his lynch. ##Vote: jarjarbinks On January 19 2015 06:57 LoneMeow wrote: Wait, TheWarWaffle was actually voting with his previous best scum read Trfel? Yeah I'm ok with lynching him. ##Unvote ##Vote: TheWarWaffle | ||
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On January 20 2015 02:32 rsoultin wrote: quid pro quo you also said his reasoning was weak after I did. What's your take? Yea I don't see how LM is really re-evaluating reads or votes from that, he got caught in a mistake/lie/not reading and had to back peddle from it. Nothing really towny about that. His other posts were really disjoined and really weren't flowing with the game in most spots so not sure why they were so good? | ||
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On January 20 2015 02:45 rsoultin wrote: Lol, no offense, but that's pretty obvious. What do you take from that regarding DP? No clue DP is a better player than that though | ||
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Explains a lot. lynch trfel | ||
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The kill wasn't that bad. GB actions basically confirmed him as town, jarhar had suspicion over his claim so he wouldn't be a good night kill. DP might be mafia at least one of the vets is probably try hard. But his post at eon made it seem he thought he would die, but that's wifom. You tr dp dp town reads you. No reason to kill someone tr you at this moment. Kills in imperial were done for wifom and keep people who aren't confirmed and other reasons. Either way, if rs doesn't understand something quote yourself instead of getting aggravated. In your first four posts you have, thrown dirt on jarjar ls damdred and rs. I don't see town!Geript doing this when we have a red check. | ||
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Anyway I really agree with LS here, Trfel was so different from his first two games I played with him in no way he was town at this point. Can't really say its a bus by rsoultin | ||
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On January 20 2015 11:46 geript wrote: Scanning Trfel's filter. LM and JJB look to be the most likely mafia partners. I should've just lynched Trfel though. His flip onto GB when he had strongly townread him was odd especially after pushing LM. But unless we get a medic claim or a tracker cc I really doubt jjb is the mafia at this point. LM is a good shot at mafia though. | ||
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I don't see you throwing doubts on people as mafia in this case, you would roll with it and bus your team mate without questioning claims I think. I think you are towny this game, and shouldn't let my paranoia get the better of me probably. So that leaves me with staring at (minus town reads) Breshke LM geript talk to me about DP. How sure are you that hes town right here? I know you were pretty sure earlier? | ||
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On January 20 2015 11:57 LightningStrike wrote: Damdred I know you played with Geript in Imperial Mafia (I was shadowing Palmar who you guys help mislynch) when he was VT does his play here so far similar to how he played in Imperial Mafia? Can you tell me any difference in his play here compared to there? I really couldn't tell you because I don't think imperial is a good representation of Geripts town game. But I will say this as mafia geript is a lot more accommodating to questions rather than telling people go read I've already answered it. | ||
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Its one of my weaker town reads but I doubt I lynch him tomorrow. | ||
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jarjarbinks (4): Breshke, Damdred, GlowingBear, LoneMeow GlowingBear (6): geript, TheWarWaffle, DarthPunk, jarjarbinks, The Shining, Trfel This is from my point of view obviously So this is the way its looking right now Breshke. if we go by what you say and scum are spread out that would make rsoultin the last scum for you? I would think that there might be two scum on the GB wagon pushing it over the cliff. | ||
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On January 20 2015 13:38 Breshke wrote: I agree with the bolded part. Out of your town reads which two are you most sure on and which two are you least sure on or even list them all if that's easier because i think you're town and that means you have to be wrong on one of them. Most sure of Rsoultin and Geript at this point, least sure of Breshke and Dp. Shining is somewhere inbetween the two sets. | ||
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On January 20 2015 13:41 rsoultin wrote: You may want to reread? He said LS was towniest of town, at least in the posts you quoted. At any rate, I find tfel's hard defense of JJB at EoD and my brother only really coming into the thread to say he was roleblocked, then breezing out again, more eeeeeh than I do him concentrating on trying to read players he's played with before. But that's just me. Is it strange that I was more confident he was town before he claimed? lol Un-CCd though so not worth thinking too much on. Hopefully he'll come back. Thanks for clarifying. A hard defense of someone when its coming from mafia is easy. They have perfect information to pull upon, they get cred at the flip and boom good job them. JarJar is acting like bad confirmed town here but hes more than likely town. Actually at this point someone should of CC'd him by now to give us two mafia on the block. | ||
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On January 20 2015 13:48 Breshke wrote: I thought i wasn't one of your townreads wasn't i on your PoE lynch list before? Right now I have five town reads and its all the unconfirmed people in the game I am 100% wrong on someone. If tre and LM flip scum DP looks the worst but doesn't necessarily make him scum. your posts look ok tonight so I have to re look at you. Shining could be scum and rs could be bussing. So yea its not a fun spot to be in | ||
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On January 20 2015 13:55 Breshke wrote: Could you explain why if Lm flips scum with trefel DP is most likely. I think geriept said this aswell but then seemed to say DP would bus if his mafia partner wasn't pulling his weight which i think could describe LM although im not sure how he is usually. I wouldn't say most likely per se, he would look the worst if lm flipped scum due to some meh reasonings on why he wouldn't lynch lm. Which is wifom a bit, and I'm not so sure dp would connect himself to his team mates in that way. I'm going to read trfels filter tommrowo and glean information I can but now sleep | ||
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And the third i'm not really sure, my hope is that tr is the roleblocker and they have to pick between shooting one of you and they can check one of the last unconfirmed to me. Right now I have it at Dp/Breshke Shining Rsoultin Geript I can't really get closer than that. I really doubt bresh, its a bit wifom but I don't think dp would connect himself so much to his team mates so idk. | ||
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On January 21 2015 09:14 rsoultin wrote: The LS thing bugged me cause Damdred has played with LS. The trfel thing bugged me cause Damdred has played with trfel. These two players he should know well enough to have an idea of what is normal and what isn't, probably moreso than I do. The GB thing bugged me because GB was townread, townread, townread then considered as a possible lynch. There's another thing bugging me, too. WIFOM, so don't jump down my throat for it, but considering who was townread for the EoD antics, you and Damdred benefitted the most from a flipped GB confirmed town. When you take into account that (assuming no false claims, which I am at this point) and if you take it on faith I'm town (something considerably more easy for me to do than the rest of y'all xP) Damdred literally had no scum on his wagon at all. If scum, that would make it perfectly safe for him not to hammer GB to save himself and get townread in the process. Trfel was still on LM...and possibly he third scum could have been waiting in the wings...LM or Shining. I know no one has flipped yet, but I don't think it's accurate to say Damdred is confirmed town after all. This is dumb the bolded especially. LS asked for a meta on me early in the game which caused me to doubt him and put him in mafia pile as evidenced in my filter if you looked. I put him down in the reaction test to see how people reacted and then I said that he was town and haven't moved from that since then. I've played like one decent game with trfel and I town read and then later in the game it became a scum read before they were checked not sure. That's just how me and GB are, gb goes damdred is town, scum, town, town town town. Just how we are when we play. I'm just going to ignore the stupid going on though its ok | ||
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On January 21 2015 09:42 DarthPunk wrote: Anyone else find this makes no fucking sense? Damdred progress from not being one way or another on my alignment and doesn't want to dive my filter cause my posts are 'meh', TO: I think DP is obvious town and that's why I haven't read his filter. That is like a complete change in his rational, his read on DP, and justifications to not want to read my filter. No offense DP, but you have a really egotistical writing style at points especially when talking about vets and newbs and it makes me feel meh about you. But your postings in the thread were towny in context so no need for me to read your filter at that point. | ||
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On January 21 2015 09:46 DarthPunk wrote: That is bullshit. In the context you were talking about my alignment. In particular talkiong about my alignment not being one way or another. If the real reason for not wanting to dive my filter was because I was obv town to you you would have said so, but your reasons was that my posts were meh. The rational between those two posts is entirely different. No DP that's not alignment indicative I just hate reading you, quite honestly you drive me insane. You were obv town though at that point so meh. Your posts make me feel meh they still make me feel meh. | ||
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On January 21 2015 09:48 rsoultin wrote: LS always hyperfocuses on meta. -_- I find it hard to believe you've failed to notice that. Just like I find it hard to believe you missed Trfel's EXTREME play change. It's not stupid. Just as it isn't stupid that you townread GB all through the game, then with apparently no explanation said maybe he could be a good lynch? How does that make sense? It certainly doesn't to me. Where did you first start thinking GB was boring, may I ask? Maybe I just missed that part when I went back into your filter before EoD. LS focusing on meta is good, LS ASKING someone else my meta isn't good. There is a distinct difference between the two. GB was boring before he pushed me, a boring GB is scum. When GB barely does anything hes boring, he didn't really do anything until he pushed me. | ||
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On January 21 2015 09:52 DarthPunk wrote: Then why not state I was obv town as the reason you were not going to read my alignment in the context of discussing my alignment with Geript? Instead you said my alignment was 'not one way or the other' and that you Didn;t want to read my posts because they were meh. So which was it? Was I obv town and that is the reason not to read my filter or was it 'not one way or the other' and Meh posting that was the reason not to read my filter? Your story is shaky as fuck. Not really sure what you want me to say, Geripts post was good but I didn't think it made you scum. Your posting style is meh to me. I said later in the thread that you were obv town because of what I read when I was reading town, both truths can exist at the same time | ||
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We are killing you off unless you claim come up with an amazing defense. | ||
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Unless tr claims and LS rescends claim but yea. | ||
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On January 21 2015 13:52 Trfel wrote: Did I not already demonstrate how LightningStrike is scum? I thought it was rather conclusive. I know that I am town. He says that I am scum. There are a few options. 1. I got sent the wrong PM 2. There is actually an unaware miller in this game 3. LightningStrike is the worst town player of all time 4. LightningStrike is a mafia who lied to get a threat lynched BlazingHand is a good host, so the first two options are unlikely. LightningStrike may well be the worst town player of all time, however my play this game is showing that I am even worse, since he seems to be getting me lynched, therefore this is not possible. (To make everything clear I am kidding, LightningStrike is cool, but my point stands). Therefore the only logical option is that LightningStrike is a mafia who false claimed. The reason for this is having both roles claimed makes it even harder for the town to actually claim. Especially since he faked his check on me. Also, I was suspicious of him early on. I noticed the weirdness in his play. It's natural for him to try and get me out of the way quickly. LS is universally town read by the game, this is a suicide mission if hes mafia and they only gain one mislynch from it. You or LM were the likely lynch today either way. LS came out really early with his check instantly pretty much as any cop would do with a red check. Your defense is actually bad and you haven't proven LS is mafia at all or described why hes mafia at all. Or claimed, and as such hes an un cc'd cop and won't be lynched. Try again | ||
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On January 21 2015 13:55 DarthPunk wrote: If trfel and LS are BOTH town. I will kill myself in rage and frustration. You would think if this is true someone would of cc'd ls instantly though | ||
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So get it over with tell us your claim and what you did last night | ||
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I thought JJB had been playing scummy so tried to get a wagon moved there instead of on gb which happened and he turned out to be blue and we moved the wagon onto your lynch. Afterwards I just went to work to try to figure the game out. | ||
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On January 22 2015 11:23 rsoultin wrote: Lol, Damdy, you were a bit quick on that one, weren'tcha? I wasn't asking you why geript didn't like you...or what you had to say for yourself xP And...what did you figure out? No offense, but I don't think an LM read is particularly earth-shattering then or now. Geript asked me a page ago what I was doing in day one. | ||
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Today we lynch lm. | ||
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GB was acting super towny and would rather GB live since he was doing some work then me who was playing horribly. I was getting final reads ready for death meh | ||
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I gotta think But lm should be lynched then IDK gotta decide | ||
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On January 23 2015 08:32 Breshke wrote: I cant tell if this is sarcasm or not but in any case it is a bad idea. Why? | ||
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Breshke looks the best coming into today really putting in the effort to try to solve the game and answer questions about him Rsoultin looks great as well, questioning everything and seems paranoid enough to be towny plus actions before. Jarjar: Un cc'd blue Town: Breshke Rsoultin DP JarJar I think, that Geript feels really disconnected from the game and he sometimes really lacks followup and can't really tell what hes doing anymore. Really seems like yesterday he was disparaging the claim of LS and JarJar trying to put doubts setting up trfels counter claim which trfel totally fell through with. But that's wifom, besides that. The question about the day 1 lynch will bother people because why would mafia want to pull off a town? Perhaps to stop town from lynching LM as a last second lynch, as GB myself both lost ton of traction and GB my main pusher stopped and jarjar was claiming blue so getting people from looking at LM would be good. LM is the other mafia I think, not trying to solve the game. I think tis geript and LM at this point. But we will see and geript will give me tons of flack for this post I know hehe ##Vote LM | ||
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my read on RS has been static, dp has been mainly unchanged besides thinking maybe he could be on a scum team but ita doubtful. Breshke has put in effort I townread shining before I misread a post then put him back as town. The main one I think would be GB who I've played with 20 times probably. Overall this is a classic over reaction to try to get people on me. I bring you to geripts weird read on trfel, him trying to get claims discredited during d3 and his total disconnect from the game and lack of follow up unless provoked. while I'm playing a bad game I know scum and he is the last after lm | ||
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Look how you react you are disconnected at points not even knowing that most of the reasons breshke brings up for lm that you call good have already been stated in thread? That's total lack of reading right there, yet its good then but bad ealier. and no this is different at times you make this huge effort to look towny when you need to be and then you go back into this idgaf mood where you do jack shit. Its more like Russian mafia than any of your town games shrug | ||
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Job one of every town is to make it known that you are town and people know this job two is find mafia. Job two is over job one was horrid. Anyway yea off to work | ||
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The shining random change was as stated before was because of a misread of one of his posts. I thought he was pushing me scum with LM and voted JarJar I believe, when I just read the sentence wrong and it was between LM and JarJar. It was an easy mistake to make when phone reading and led to a scum read that when my mistake was realized the read had to changed based on that new information. Its like if DP said something like "IF I claimed cop we would lynch first claim" after someone had already claimed cop and I missed the IF (even though the sentence doesn't make sense) would make me scum read one of the two if I misread the statement, corrections must be made. Theres not much to say about GB honestly, when you know that someone is town by the way they push something its just apparent. GB was boring before he started pushing his case, its a simple read but it is what it is. Once GB got to work it was apparent that he was town from the work and should of been obvious to the thread even if they weren't paying full attention. Plus I did give reasons like the push being similar to other games in tone and the feel of the push, even if DP disagreed the reasons were given so this is a bs reason to scum read me. Being disconnected from the game overall isn't that subjective and it is true. Geript hasn't really been that involved past a point and forgets about posts or seemily skips over posts and just seems dissatisfied when hes in game during certain points. That's a form of disconnect i'm sorry to say. Im sticking on LM here | ||
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Then you go and look back a bit and Geript lacks a little bit of follow up when you aren't directly talking to him, which bothered me a bit. | ||
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JarJar Rsoultin DP Shining/Breshke Geript LM If you had to pick two people I was most wrong about which two would it be? | ||
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On January 25 2015 03:43 rsoultin wrote: Damdred, please walk me through your read progression on geript. That was your Damdred post mentioning alignment (null is my interpretation). In his initial large reads posts he just mentioned Geript's first post. I agree that one post alone is hard to judge anyone by so this isn't a red flag for me... As a point of curiosity, what did you mean there, Damdred? I don't understand the significance of people claiming roles. Please clarify which posts. I know what I think you're saying, but it's better if you just tell me. I've linked where this post was in the thread. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475036-student-mafia-v?page=50#999 Can you explain Russian to me? This is the second time you've mentioned it in trying to determine geript's alignment. So...these are the actual times that I've noticed a distinct read change in Damdred's filter on geript. Geript, what makes this scummy to you? Apart from, you know, you not liking people thinking you could be scum, anyway. To the first question, Geript would normally be a high priority night kill. Obviously with both of our blues coming out early he would be shuffled down the list but if he was alive with no blues claimed then it would be possible hes scum at that point. That point it was all so random posting and made it seem like Geript was questioning whether LS actually had a red check on trfel and was throwing a bit of shadow in my mind on the claim. Was just a weird series of posts by geript at that point. Russian mafia geript played one of the best games of scum I ever saw him play, really town sided a lot of the time did just enough to get mislynches, ended up getting caught by a tracker/watcher though. Was a fun game though. | ||
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On January 25 2015 03:52 rsoultin wrote: So then am I right in interpreting your referencing Russian as a reason to be paranoid of geript even when his posts seem townie? Yes, I think I read geript more town when hes mafia then when hes town -_- | ||
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On January 25 2015 03:57 Damdred wrote: Yes, I think I read geript more town when hes mafia then when hes town -_- Geript why you no read my posts? | ||
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At others you have this idgaf and seemily don't read things that happened in other parts of the thread. This is not typical of any type of your gameplay. | ||
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On January 25 2015 06:12 rsoultin wrote: He made a case against you but chose not to vote. I can read that as coming from either alignment :/ Basically what i'm getting at is with the inactivity of breshke/shining/lm at this point DP shenanigans or trying to shenny is impossible right now | ||
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That's the game, he even targets setup speculation like he did with the medic talk. I think breshke is a good lynch here but so is LM | ||
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On January 25 2015 07:03 rsoultin wrote: Fing a >< Okay, you win, DP, I suck at this lol >< Lets lynch bres then rsoultin | ||
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Shining, Breshke, Rsoultin. There are two mafia in there. I think its Breshke and Rsoultin with his unwillingness to switch, LM was acting pretty towny eod. | ||
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And we aren't no lynching final group would be rs, bresh, jarjar, shinning,me. I'd rather have a non ark in there. We lynch breath Tommorow then go from there. | ||
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It's like people questioning dp, it was an inconvenient time for eod on a Sunday and he made it here to do thing a he's town. | ||
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Geript and dp and jarjar are confirmed for me. Shining and myself are town I feel. So very little options. Poe solves games sometimes, and it's pointing to besh and you. It is what it is. | ||
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Sorta like how you were ok autolynching and lynching for info to go into mylo. | ||
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Before the last 30 minutes we got no information, now we have information from that lynch, and the sentence about my Poe doesn't invalidate it at all. Dp has been really towny, he made sense with Scum lm but not with many others. Because Scum want mylo not to lynch breshke. | ||
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And I love this you just make me more sure by every post by pulling everything you can that I'm Scum. LM was acting towny in hindsight more so than breshke. So yes I switches off. And your total reluctance to not only not switch to breshke but not switch to ANYONE is pretty telling. | ||
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Lm was acting towny, I don't like ark lynched which is what we were doing. Geript found good point, dp found another it was time to go. | ||
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Theresistance to the flip makes it highly likely if not assured that breshke is Scum. Also lm said he was town right as voting ended and it was believable | ||
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I said well before flip I suck at reading Geript, so that's no change. Not sure where you are going with this, the way lm acted right at the end really showed town. | ||
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DP woke up when an lm lynch was basically 100% town cares that much. It's town favored, arguing otherwise is silly. It's like Euro players staying up to 4 am to help at deadline that's a town | ||
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Here's the thing a better player than I told me that heuristic about waking up/staying up. Instead of attacking the idea, why didn't you instead attack it wasn't an unreasonable time? DP himself said it wasn't to bad? Can someone besides rs tell me his Scum team pair right now? Or the two likeliest people and why? | ||
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Even though you've attacked almost every person toad you haven't mentioned breshke almost at all why? | ||
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After catching tr you would think the opposite is true. Those first few posts just totally to sure to fast | ||
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Why don't you have rs on any team? | ||
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You hit trf out of the gates hard, hard fast and to sure when compared to the rest of your play. | ||
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Not sure why rs moved off of tr I canteven remember her pushing it at eod. Or really pushedanything to save the towns just don't want to vote them | ||
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Anyway I wasn't even active just trying to remember it. | ||
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We shouldn't no lynch today. | ||
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2) made a case on trf really didn't push it around eod when everything was going down the drain. 3) Came out hard early was super sure of read replaced by momentary reads. 4) hasn't Scum hunted but only reacted to the thread. | ||
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Most of this isn't an answer/rebuttal so show me the hunting etc | ||
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On January 26 2015 10:09 rsoultin wrote: Let me put this to you very simply, Damdred, so that you can understand. I am town. I do not think you are town. In the event that you are town, I am still more sure that I am town than you are. Clear enough for you? I just don't get how you can dodge answering a direct question | ||
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[/b]##unvote[/b] On January 26 2015 10:33 rsoultin wrote: Town cred for not being on a town mislynch. Are you really this obtuse? Why would I give a damn which "town" wagon was being mislynched as scum. I could have nailed your ass to the floor Day 2 if I was scum and you were town and no one would have cared. I could have nailed Shining when DP tried to push that. Or Breshke. As scum it wouldn't matter to me which scummy-looking townie got the shaft. You are not this bad, Damdred. You couldn't of nailed me d3 especially since the votes would of been tied and I wouldn't of voted to lynch myself. And you didn't have the votes to take out shining I think. So... you think Breshke looks scummy though even though you town read him? | ||
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If you read RS post, he keeps talking to me like he knows i'm town. like when he says Damdred you can't be this stupid, its not being stupid if i'm mafia its me pushing an agenda. But in almost all of his posts he has some form of speak that is like hes talking to someone he thinks is bad town. That's pretty telling to me. | ||
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Town: Geript DP Breshke which leaves shining and rs? That one feels a bit weird to me | ||
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Heres the problem i'm having, IF breshke is mafia I think Rsoultin could very well be town. I went through breshkes mafia games and he never 100% town reads a partner, bresh either attacks them or gives them light town reads in my eyes. Im not sure that Breshke would basically green check a team mate, which is complete wifom but im' struggling with it. | ||
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I disagree I think that shining is town but hes afk town which is just as bad. What do you think about what I said about if breshke town reading rsoul so hard? | ||
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On January 27 2015 07:51 geript wrote: I remember seeing it, but off the top of my head I don't specifically remember the argument/point. Can you point me to a post. I'll just give you a summary, if breshke is scum he wouldn't town read his partner so hard. compared to other games where he either goes after partners or lightly town reads them | ||
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I've got to think about this and reread some things, I'm confused why Geript is voting breshke when earlier he said he thought he was town? Did I miss something or skim over something? | ||
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Yea reread everything and I don't see anything wrong with a breshke lynch meh. If anyones here i'll interact | ||
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That leaves me between DP, Geript, Breshke and RSoultin. Rsoultin and Breshke cannot be scum together I think because of the chainsaw defending each other and breshke saying rs is 100% town even though he was almost the autolynch today. It doesn't make sense to align yourself with your partner (if breshke is scum) if breshke IS town then could just be a bad read. RS has a huge filter which isn't inherently towny but it is what it is Geript has been a bit weird but has pulled votes off two town mislynches, even though my initial reaction is that its towny it could be a scum looking to gain favor. And this weird Lets lynch shining to suddenly lynching breshke and nothing much has changed makes me feel a bit weirded out at this moment. DP is 99.99999% town i'm pretty sure, but i'm most paranoid about a geript and DP scum team that will auto win the rest of the game. But dp has looked realy towny and has been pretty consistant up to this point. | ||
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Geript, Breshke and RSoultin... Geript/ RS Geript/ Breshke Breshke/Geript- This is the least likely pairing I think as geript would of just went into mylo. I hate looking at geript because of a shit storm that would break out again, but I have to cover my bases and think everything out. And him wanting to kill shining and then sheeping onto Breshke bothers me still a bit, gotta think all of this through. | ||
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Firstly if I'm scum and bresh is town as you think I wouldn't be doing this breshke would of been hammered with my vote. Secondly if we assume that bresh is town don't matter what wagons happen. Which I'm not sold on bresh being town here either. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
CoolTLname sent me a pm that basically out'd his alignment a bit. And I asked BH to replace me so that tlname could continue playing but BH mod killed him instead and it just put me in a funk | ||
Damdred
15669 Posts
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Damdred
15669 Posts
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Damdred
15669 Posts
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