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Damdred
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January 12 2015 19:04 GMT
#28
auto lynch geript for the win.
Damdred
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January 13 2015 03:55 GMT
#64
/in newb
Damdred
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January 13 2015 04:00 GMT
#66
I need a coach XD
Damdred
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January 15 2015 04:06 GMT
#84
Wait shouldn't jarjar be a newb? And dp can be in the vet spot? Jar has been here one game I think
Damdred
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January 15 2015 04:11 GMT
#86
I'm a problem solver get gud
Damdred
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January 15 2015 04:21 GMT
#88
I'd just lynch you as a gut read
Damdred
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January 15 2015 20:45 GMT
#98
Shining sleeps during the day because he works night shifts he will respond
Damdred
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January 16 2015 23:17 GMT
#168
It's really early in the day yet no reason to push lurkers yet
Damdred
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January 17 2015 02:39 GMT
#200
i'm a few pages behind and i'll catch up and start posting soon have no fears
Damdred
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January 17 2015 02:56 GMT
#203
Ls might be scum gotta look on him, him asking for a meta read on me is strange I think if I'm understanding it since we've played a good 3-5 games together I think.

We will be lynching day one and might be jarjar today
Damdred
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January 17 2015 03:00 GMT
#207
Can't policy voting be scum hunting as well rso
Damdred
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January 17 2015 03:04 GMT
#210
Kk so its three.

Tell me where you are at in the game this second Ls.

RS its possible but voting feript out is like an rng lynch it can hit scum but who knows.
Damdred
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January 17 2015 05:16 GMT
#242
Oh GB my dear well see how I feel in the morning I'm pretty burned out though atm.

Damdred
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January 17 2015 05:19 GMT
#243
Ls is scum, shining is scum and jarjar is scum.

Easy game easy life.
Damdred
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January 17 2015 14:32 GMT
#264
Lol I wonder if I should care or not.

I'll care Ina bit.
Damdred
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January 17 2015 14:35 GMT
#265
GB probably town for this.

tlcool is in the scum pile.

Mostly the three names were a reaction test to see how people would look at it. I don't scum read people for 0 posts lol.

LS is probable town.

JarJar made some interesting posts just now I need to go back over
Damdred
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January 17 2015 14:38 GMT
#266
I'll elaborate some on tl cool name in scum pile. I haven't looked at the rest of the filter however, but instead of thinking why would Damdred do this (who he has no experience with) he made the post paint me as scum. He let it sit and then once GB came back and voted he took up the vote, if he really thought it ws scummy why not vote at that second for a pressure/real vote instead of soft pushing and waiting on gb to take over.
Damdred
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January 17 2015 14:43 GMT
#269
Thres really not much to go on in his filter, just a weird pressure question to JarJar and then dropping all pressure a moment later. Really shallow seemed a bit fake, i'm not making associative reads currently before a flip. But JarJar answered him and cool didn't follow up with him at all just picked another random post that he liked and dropped it immediately.

I think tlcool is the scum here

##Vote TL Cool Name
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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January 17 2015 14:44 GMT
#270
GB thoughts on what I've said.

He had jarjar in the thread but just dropped everything found one post he liked and moved on to try to make me look scummy. This guy has no follow up, has very little thoughts and is just looking for an easy target at this point.

This is our first scum <3
Damdred
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January 17 2015 14:48 GMT
#273
A reaction or pressure test is brining that up and voting instantly IE like GB did.

You say that you haven't analys'd Jarjar yet, but then why go after him and then one post later say I love this post and never mention him again? There seems to be a disconnect between what you say and what you ar edoing.
Damdred
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January 17 2015 14:59 GMT
#276
actually ls I think you are probable town at this point just said it.
gotta drive and then knowledge bombs will rain down
Damdred
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January 17 2015 17:33 GMT
#280
Here in the knowledge bomb for today guys;

Town:

Trfel: Slightly different from what I am used to in other games, the pressure vote is not alignment indicative as Geript is a good enough player to do this with post restrictions as scum or as town. However the followup to people commenting on his stance is really good, he calls to attention the problems in LS stance at the time which is a good observation and shows that someone is really reading the game. Hes inquisitive about why people are doing things and he seems to be in the thick of all talks when hes in the thread. For now hes in the town pile and i'm pretty sold that he shouldn't be the lynch today at all.

LightningStrike: Some of the stances he has taken seem a bit flimsy at times and it seems like he reverts on them as time passes sometimes. Which gave him a few scum points at first from me. But when questioned about where he was in the game he took little to no time at having actual somewhat developed thoughts on the people in the game. Was really quick to answer and hes not scared to push what he is thinking in the thread (or just put it out there) Pretty sure he is town here.

RS: Hes town, he pressures people. Hes reading the thread, he has follow up on what he says and hes asking opinions to try to figure out peoples alignments. Wouldn't lynch him today at all.


Null:

LM: Why you not have your neck out and giving actual thoughts instead of just reacting to what people say to you .

Warwaffle: not really rememerable but hasn't posted much

Shining: where are you baby doll?

Breshke: Who are you again? what do you think?

Scum:

TLCoolName: I have talked about him before now and I will reinterate. He attacks JarJar at one point and JarJar answers him, instead of interacting with him and trying to figure out his alignment. He disengages and says oh I like this post and never returns to it. When confronted with this information he says he just hasn't analyzed what JarJar has done. Shouldn't be much to analysis and Jarjar was in the thread at the time so he missed a good opoortunity to actually analysis the player and figure out his alignment. And then he switched to talking about me or rather slow pushing a target, he quoted something before the game started. He waited for someone else to vote and threw his vote down with that person. He claims it was a reaction test, but his reaction is not one a town would generally make. Instead of talking it through and trying to understand alignments of both he retreats from the confrontation and says just do analysis on everyone else. This guy is scum, hes not interested in finding out who is scum or pressuring people. He wants to find an easy target park there after someone else has fired the first shot and go on his merry way.


General thoughts:

I didn't bother to do everyone yet, Geripts huge post is full of good things that I want more peoples comments on. He might be onto something but I haven't rad DP filter or contextualized it yet.

GB could really be town here, anger at the start seems authentic and GB hates being VT. Some good thoughts but not as many as drunk bear should usually have at this point.

I'm undecided about JarJar currently, his recent postings looked pretty ok, but his previous postings looked bad. So can't really put him in a null town or scum currently but might lynch him depending on play as the game goes along.

Overall cool is the scummiest thing in the thread and people should comment on what I wrote.
Damdred
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January 17 2015 17:36 GMT
#282
So why did you do it anyway JarJar?
Damdred
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January 17 2015 17:46 GMT
#285
On January 18 2015 02:43 jarjarbinks wrote:
Lol im guessing saying I suck at this game is a bad way to go.

Gereipt asked for my reads on people. I thought I had good quotes to follow up my thoughts on some of the most active guys. The inactive guys not so much. Still wanted to shed my thoughts on them though in case.

Damdred: for your reaction vote, did you include shining in your scum list to see if anyone would jump on it based on what was said before the game started? Or did you just do it because you needed someone else to through on your scum team?


No that's not an acceptable answers hehe, never downplay yourself at all.

Well, shining is generally lurky as scum in my experience with him. So I was hoping if he was lurking and just reading it would draw him out into the thread, and also I was wanting to see who would jump and try to call me scum for pregame/lurker lynch.

It got somewhat a desired result
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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January 17 2015 17:49 GMT
#289
Oh I know there sex no worries on that.

What do you think of what I said about cooltl ls
Damdred
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January 17 2015 17:58 GMT
#291
I'm not asking you for a meta read though lol.

I've stated (if you read my large post) JarJars early postings were bad and his later ones were better. I think he is lynchable today depending on how he does and other responses he gives
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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January 17 2015 18:08 GMT
#295
Maybe your right about TL, i'll give him a bit more time to develop but i'll come back to him later on.

We will probably disagree about tr but I think i'm right.

The point of D1 is to find mafia and kill mafia !!!!!!!!!

Who are your scum today rs
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 17 2015 18:11 GMT
#296
On January 18 2015 03:07 geript wrote:
Initial thought: I like Damdred's read on cool. Need to double check but it feels right. Damdred do you really disagree with my Trfel read that much?
Last and most important point: you can call me Geript, getmoript, gayripped, supercoolasdudewiththebigdick. Under no circumstances am I to be called gereipt.


I disagree for now, I need to see his posting a bit more. His postings are vastly different from the previous games. I'll have to relook at your read to see where I am on it.

Geript why you trying to pocket me
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 17 2015 18:27 GMT
#302
I'm not sure exactly that you are paying attention Jarjar, or actually are reading. And that's a problem.

I say easy game this is scum team x.

Reaction test here are my reads. I explain LS read and you ask why I flip flopped on it O_o.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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January 17 2015 18:46 GMT
#305
I've read everyones filter besides DP just procrastinating on his
Damdred
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January 17 2015 19:54 GMT
#316
are you scum ww
Damdred
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January 17 2015 20:13 GMT
#317
On January 18 2015 03:56 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 03:46 Damdred wrote:
I've read everyones filter besides DP just procrastinating on his


Interesting. I don't dislike your play so far...but that response is interesting. Can anyone else point out why it raises concerns?


DP could be town or a mafia partner if i'm mafia. or I could just be lazy town currently
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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January 17 2015 20:17 GMT
#320
who do you think is mafia
Damdred
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January 17 2015 20:41 GMT
#322
Oh I know his filter leads to eden however he was the first sign up so I got to his in really fast. And I knew that there was a good bit of discussion about him in the thread.
Damdred
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January 17 2015 21:03 GMT
#333
Well that starts me at ground 0 again.

Gotta reread
Damdred
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January 17 2015 21:06 GMT
#334
opinions on glowing bear ?
Damdred
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January 17 2015 21:07 GMT
#336
Why would I stop you if you think you have a decent case?
Damdred
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January 17 2015 21:10 GMT
#341
OH yea I can't let that go. ongoing game talk is a no go
Damdred
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January 17 2015 21:15 GMT
#344
He really hasn't posted any reads quite yet so he hasn't answered my question at this point so not much to garner yet.

Geript has some good thoughts in his posts. I can't really tell his alignment yet
Damdred
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January 17 2015 21:31 GMT
#346
Trfel, that's a whole lot of words for saying you have a couple of town reads rest null reads but you don't seem to have any scum reads? unless I overlooked it.

Are you scum with no scum reads and not knowing how to go about it?
Damdred
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January 17 2015 21:39 GMT
#348
So basically if LM comes back and does stuff you might rescend that scum read/suspicion.

And then when we drop to your next uspicion it isn't even the person you then pointed to (dp) it is instead two lurkers?

Also sure that's true about that previous post...but what about how you came flying out of the blue in the last student tmafia against bats with a huge case, even in the past newbie game you were halfway inactive and you still had pretty strong scum reads 24-36 hours into the game?
Damdred
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January 17 2015 21:47 GMT
#351
On January 18 2015 06:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 06:39 Damdred wrote:
So basically if LM comes back and does stuff you might rescend that scum read/suspicion.

And then when we drop to your next uspicion it isn't even the person you then pointed to (dp) it is instead two lurkers?

Also sure that's true about that previous post...but what about how you came flying out of the blue in the last student tmafia against bats with a huge case, even in the past newbie game you were halfway inactive and you still had pretty strong scum reads 24-36 hours into the game?


Just remember he was coached by me last game.
Just please have this in mind.



god help us
Damdred
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January 18 2015 02:20 GMT
#409
Shining is in town pile, I feel like I missed questions directed at me so i'm going to look back and find some of them when I can and answer them.

Game looks kinda difficult to find scum right now.
Damdred
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January 18 2015 03:16 GMT
#414
Well geript I'm sure I will miss something talking with you here.

I think your post on dp had good direction, had clear thought patterns and pulled from past experiences in context for that part. It looks really towny from you and so its a really good post I don't think it proves one way or another about dp. But I'm procrastinating because of things diving him because dp has a way of being meh when I read his post.

I think shining is telling the truth about having limited net and drunk which isn't alignment indicative. but his post shows that he read what little of the thread there was to read and he had thoughts about it and was able to articulate them into reasonable points about people.

I hate list posts but his weren't overly bad this time.

I'm actually moving tr down my townlist and sinking. I had the huge post and the reasoning for not having scum reads is pretty bad band didn't sound genuine to me. And the interactions with GB just feel weird at points.
Damdred
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January 18 2015 03:19 GMT
#416
Also I'm kinda burned out from imperial and trying not to go super crazy until tommorow which was why voice mafia was so much fun more should play. Its so rage free
Damdred
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January 18 2015 03:39 GMT
#418
So you have no scum leans at least?
Damdred
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January 18 2015 03:49 GMT
#420
JarJar after looking at his filter.

Tr might be a good lynch after thinking more I really hate those long posts that are not really hard stances and no scum reads.
Damdred
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January 18 2015 04:23 GMT
#426
Man so many people agree with me this game its kinda scary. But that's ok.

Geript you will have to point me to the post. I'm not sure if id lynch jarjar today but maybe. Still got time for more postings.

yes a bit odd
Damdred
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January 18 2015 04:25 GMT
#428
I'm about to sleep. However besh take a look at tr and GB tell me what you think. Look at any other interactions jarjar has had and tell me what else you think.
Damdred
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January 18 2015 14:43 GMT
#554
I'm awake at work chilling and caught up.
Glad you read LS games, he's unlynchable for awhile at least. Meta stuff for him is like crack no matter how many times we say no bad he goes back time and again.
Not sure why be not reading your filter is that bad do, I just don't want to and can't make myself so a bit lazy.
Today I'd be open to lynching jarjar tr maybe GB but that's a bit doubtful.
Damdred
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January 18 2015 15:11 GMT
#558
GB reaction is priceless I'd rather not lynch the bear.

And that's what GB does, likes killing lurkers early
Damdred
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January 18 2015 15:24 GMT
#562
I don't know if thats a Scum slip. Meh, both shining and lm went hard on that part interesting
Damdred
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January 18 2015 15:25 GMT
#563
Right now add LM to the lynch pool. This random posting catching up is not really interacting and looks like he's contributing
Damdred
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January 18 2015 15:51 GMT
#565
.,.so you have no thoughts on anything else just spamming about older stuff?
Damdred
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January 18 2015 16:34 GMT
#570
Rs top town for parroting me. Lm probable mafia and is a great ads tvoe
Damdred
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January 18 2015 16:49 GMT
#573
On January 19 2015 01:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2015 01:34 Damdred wrote:
Rs top town for parroting me. Lm probable mafia and is a great ads tvoe


And I'm a good lynch because...?


Think I said you wouldn't be last page... but lynching GB d1 is fun!
Damdred
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January 18 2015 16:53 GMT
#575
Honestly lm is the best lynch today, out of context the catch up isnt bad. However lm isn't interacting in context, just using old stuff and disappearing again with no real interactions.

##unvote
##Vote lm
Damdred
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January 18 2015 16:57 GMT
#578
Rs vote lm with me I feel this one.
Damdred
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January 18 2015 17:02 GMT
#582
Geript do you think it's that odd I haven't read dps filter and he made such a big fuss about it?

I think it's halfway towny of him.
Damdred
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January 18 2015 17:06 GMT
#583
°LM is disconnected from the game as evidenced by his posts just recently.
°Not really interested with interactions just these blurbs an then disappearing.
° LM isn't adding real thoughts as in most of what he says has already been said before.
° Has no real reads that we know of besides slightly auspicious of jarjat for meh reasons and so so on beshke.
° no real interactions to speak of
° look at season of a witch foe last lm Scum game.
Damdred
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January 18 2015 17:09 GMT
#587
I kinda disagree with that, lm wasn't this disconnected and actually interacted
Damdred
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January 18 2015 17:21 GMT
#593
Lm>jajar >tr

Is where in at
What scummy lukerst
Damdred
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January 18 2015 18:53 GMT
#618
On January 19 2015 03:43 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, damdred has been dodging me.

I'm lynching him.

##Unvote
##Vote: Damdred


I'm waiting my lunch to be ready. Meanwhile, I'll catch up.


Not sure how I've dodged...

He'll I've answered everything posed to me
Damdred
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January 18 2015 19:17 GMT
#621
I don't like that case but the last quote is after I said I maybe would lynch you. But meh

Never told me I was dodging
Damdred
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January 18 2015 19:29 GMT
#629
Cause I really am meh and I could want to lynch a lot of people and change my mind at this point.

GB besides a couple of moments you have been meh and uninteresting .
Damdred
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January 18 2015 19:36 GMT
#636
Meh GB is town from this more than likely.

GB was being boring now he's not.
Damdred
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January 18 2015 19:42 GMT
#638
GB your case is bad it's ok.
Damdred
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January 18 2015 19:53 GMT
#642
I've said it twice at least, he's boring before now and usually GB isn't boring.
Damdred
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January 18 2015 20:12 GMT
#650
I never put a vote on GB what are you talking about jarjar?

No I haven't read dps filter
Damdred
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January 18 2015 20:39 GMT
#675
GB shouldn't be lynched it would be bad Honestly
Damdred
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January 18 2015 20:56 GMT
#698
I'm glad you asked me dp, I am lazy and think your obvious town. I don't see you being Scum nor a lynch so I'm ignoring your filter because I read you in thread as town.

Geript is pretty town, if he's alive after d2 and no roles claim he's pulling a Russian mafia but he looks super towny

LS is town based on hi a addiction to meta as town.

Jjb is mafia I think
Damdred
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January 18 2015 21:07 GMT
#721
Granted I've never seen dp as mafia so I can't compare what he's doing here. But he has follow up to questions does research on LS to find his meta and change his read. He woke up at God awful time just for deadline, I don't have to read someone a filter to town read then if I like their thread prwacense.
Jarjar isn't really finding Scum and caught him in a lie about me voting GB when I never did. The slight Scum slip. And he's not really hinting so yea.
Damdred
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January 18 2015 21:10 GMT
#725
I halfway want to get lynched so GB finally realizes he has my meta wrong...
Damdred
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January 18 2015 21:13 GMT
#730
Not really, I'm not sure who is want to lynch. Not really GB I think. Even if the case is bad he does this to me as town especially after I kill him as mafia...

Either way Tommorow look at rs chainsaw defending jarjar.
Damdred
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January 18 2015 21:17 GMT
#735
Man I hate jarjar right here lol. I get asked my opinion and he jumps on it to vote me.

I've played almost 18 games with GB probably. Give him a pass today, this is in hi a town wheel house. Like read hearthstone mafia this is how he went about it to.
Damdred
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January 18 2015 21:21 GMT
#739
Yea GB is really bad about dropping reads to tunnel on someone. I'm on phone so can't link atm.

Also shinings post is bad and has a ma f2f is tone about it watch him after this lynch
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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January 18 2015 21:23 GMT
#742
Really hate playing on Sundays since I'm at work all day meh.

Anyway, GB probably town jarjar and shining trying to figure who to hammer so lm and me are town.

Jarjat is the lynch shining Tommorow maybe rs the next for chain saw defending. Super crummy play from a couple here at eod

##unvite
##Vote jarjar
Damdred
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January 18 2015 21:32 GMT
#758
I think the pushs look pretty similar especially the push because of my meta. Which he did also in imperial, his push on me dropping it for Palmar is close as well.

Either way GB shouldn't be lynched today I think.
Damdred
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January 18 2015 21:34 GMT
#760
anyway a Scum team of jarjar-tr_-rs is interesting pre flip associative reads stink but yea.

Anyway serious last thing in case I die
Damdred
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January 18 2015 21:38 GMT
#769
All a sudden GB realizes the truth.
Damdred
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January 18 2015 21:40 GMT
#782
You guys should trust in ny read that GB is town
Damdred
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January 18 2015 21:42 GMT
#787
GB get me out instead save yourself here.
Damdred
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January 18 2015 21:43 GMT
#790
This is great shining says damdred and lm are lynched. Votes GB. Pure Scum
Damdred
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January 18 2015 21:45 GMT
#794
There's probably two Scum on GB wagon at this point
Damdred
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January 18 2015 21:48 GMT
#805
GB is just town to me. Maybe it's different to you But it feels and reads the same. And every one piles on GB.

Jarjar, tr and shining Scum team.
Damdred
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January 18 2015 21:49 GMT
#809
I want do rs and LS to switch to jarjar.
Damdred
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January 18 2015 21:51 GMT
#812
GB is town get off of him and onto jarjar.

Damdred
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January 18 2015 21:51 GMT
#817
You guys are bad.

LS and dp switch
Damdred
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January 18 2015 21:52 GMT
#821
Yay to ls
Damdred
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January 18 2015 21:53 GMT
#829
Geript vote jarjar to save GB then
Damdred
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January 18 2015 21:54 GMT
#833
And GB falls in the don't lynch the biggest filter d1 rule
Damdred
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January 18 2015 21:55 GMT
#836
I am on mafia I think Geript
Damdred
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January 18 2015 21:58 GMT
#854
##unvite
##Vote warwaffle
Damdred
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January 18 2015 22:00 GMT
#860
I wish we could switch to shining or tre
Damdred
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January 18 2015 22:01 GMT
#866
Medic protect jarjar.

Or wifom whatever, shining I most mafia in the thread.
Damdred
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January 18 2015 22:04 GMT
#873
Psh let me wifom the mafia geript
Damdred
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January 18 2015 22:11 GMT
#878
Shining and lm look bad to me, they were the die st one a to pick up on his slip knowing there's a medicine the game,

This doesn't make then 100% but signings vote is bad. He's mafia I think
Damdred
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January 18 2015 22:17 GMT
#881
Good find GB.

Shinings cote was horrible he said he was in between me and lm voting tried to hammer gb. And caught jarjar slip about the setup
Damdred
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January 18 2015 22:30 GMT
#887
GB I have to read rs filter for context, but I think rs chainsaw defended jarjar a bit. Could be a bit of tmi.

Shining is caught I think, gotta figure out if tr is mafia and the last.
Damdred
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January 18 2015 22:43 GMT
#889
Well if we do that who's the third mafia gb
Damdred
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January 18 2015 22:49 GMT
#891
Harm maybe I misread I thought you said between me and lm....but they were the pleadings wagons at the time

I didn't mean to ill rethink this
Damdred
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January 19 2015 00:32 GMT
#898
Usually Scum wouldn't unvote and let themselves be the vote leader with a few minutes left.

Damdred
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January 19 2015 01:30 GMT
#900
Any thoughts about jarjar fake claiming as mafia with like 7 minutes left. I have a tinfoil theory..,
Damdred
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January 19 2015 02:49 GMT
#908
I have to cover all of my basis though, and we actually need to analysis the claim.

Firstly, there are two possible scenerios that involve a tracker. One is Cop tracker and one is tracker doctor. I thought about it as JarJar softing, but he cannot possibly know still that a medic exists in this setup as we are down to a 50/50 if he is the tracker. If we see a doc/cop flip obviously hes mafia, there might be something there and its still possibly a scum slip instead of a soft. I know it sounds tin foil, but its something we have to consider down the line and JarJar isn't confirmed if he isn't shot obviously. And if cop flips and doc flips.outs we at least have one mafia already there. So just figured I would talk it out before moving down.

Trfel should be the lynch tomorrow, maybe LM, and we still have to evaluate a couple more people. I'm going to heal Dp tonight obviously, hes the most towny person in the game.

I"m not sure if we should kill breshke tomorrow I like some of his posts but we need to pressure him a bit more, and talk me through your EoD rsoultin.
Damdred
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January 19 2015 02:53 GMT
#910
Shining, tell me do you think any of the wagons d1 were mafia they were

JarJar (claimed tracker)
damdred
GB
LM
Warwaffle (lynched)
Damdred
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January 19 2015 02:58 GMT
#914
whoa whoa whoa, firstly i'm not claiming doctor. That sentence must of been autocorrected or something, the gist is correct as I think dp is the most towny and should be healed. But i'm not the doc.
Damdred
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January 19 2015 03:01 GMT
#916
On January 19 2015 11:58 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2015 11:49 Damdred wrote:
I have to cover all of my basis though, and we actually need to analysis the claim.

Firstly, there are two possible scenerios that involve a tracker. One is Cop tracker and one is tracker doctor. I thought about it as JarJar softing, but he cannot possibly know still that a medic exists in this setup as we are down to a 50/50 if he is the tracker. If we see a doc/cop flip obviously hes mafia, there might be something there and its still possibly a scum slip instead of a soft. I know it sounds tin foil, but its something we have to consider down the line and JarJar isn't confirmed if he isn't shot obviously. And if cop flips and doc flips.outs we at least have one mafia already there. So just figured I would talk it out before moving down.

Trfel should be the lynch tomorrow, maybe LM, and we still have to evaluate a couple more people. I'm going to heal Dp tonight obviously, hes the most towny person in the game.

I"m not sure if we should kill breshke tomorrow I like some of his posts but we need to pressure him a bit more, and talk me through your EoD rsoultin.


Eh, messy.

Was trying to work out my thoughts with Lonemeow (ironic, I know) since the only one I was pretty sure on was Trfel, but no one wanted to lynch him and I didn't have any further arguments apart from what I already posted. Plus, yeah, I get stubborn and tunnel about people being insincere, when their words don't line up with their actions.

GB never felt like a good lynch to me. I didn't want to lynch LS. I feel I've got a pretty good tone read on my brother, so I didn't want to lynch JarJar. And no, I didn't want to lynch WW either. I actually was still deciding what to do when JarJar claimed and didn't see it until I'd already changed my vote. There was something like 90 seconds left at that time.

If anything, I found the lynch immensely frustrating. And much as I think that geript can't be scum unless I'm wrong on either JarJar or GB, that trfel in two pools thing still is niggling at me. It may not mean anything, though, odd as it seems and much as geript didn't want to actually explain it ><


Look at Russian Mafia for geripts last scum game, it was a really good scum game for him one that he probably should of hard carried to the victory. Honestly its one of the reasons hes not my #1 town, he makes me more paranoid than HF does as scum I think.

Its a pretty small lynch pool for you tomorrow then?
Damdred
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January 19 2015 03:02 GMT
#918
On January 19 2015 12:00 LightningStrike wrote:
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On January 19 2015 11:58 Damdred wrote:
whoa whoa whoa, firstly i'm not claiming doctor. That sentence must of been autocorrected or something, the gist is correct as I think dp is the most towny and should be healed. But i'm not the doc.

Well in the post you said you were going to heal DP and idk how it would of been auto corrected to that unless you are posting from a phone.


Yes i'm posting from a phone.

Why would you draw attention to this during the night?
Damdred
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January 19 2015 03:09 GMT
#922
On January 19 2015 12:02 rsoultin wrote:
Yeah, I guess you're right, Damdred. It could be a false claim, technically, since mafia knows the setup. Just not sure where that gets us? Do you want to proceed as if it were false?

Why do you think that Trfel is the lynch tomorrow? You got onto us for not being willing to lynch inactives last game, and we've only got two mislynches left before scum wins.



Obviously jarjar will be alive tomorrow more than likely just for wifom if hes tracker and more than likely he will be blocked if he is the true tracker. I'm not going to give scum strategy so we shouldn't talk about it to much in depth, but until we start seeing some flips of another power role we need to just ignore it for now more than likely. I don't have much to substantiate with but the "softing/scum slip" earlier makes me a bit weary to believe the claim.

We have little inactives, I think we can eliminate shining from lynch tomorrow. Breshke needs a good day, LM needs a decent day. Those to me are our really only inactives and they aren't spammy but are here if we have a cop I would check one of them and hope to get lucky.

Trfel has been the least interested in the days activity I think, and has really changed the play from all of the other games I played with him in. Even in the last newbie it seemed very similar to carol/last student mafia. Was pretty strong even if he wasn't as inactive, and as blue in carol he was really strong. This just seems like a weird mirror like performance, playing down his ability no real scum reads sheeping instead of pushing. Being wrong is good in mafia it helps you get more information instead of laying back
Damdred
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January 19 2015 03:13 GMT
#923
Heres my list currently from most town to lynchable

Damdred
DP
GB
Geript
Rsoultin
Shining
LS

Breshke
LM
Tref

I'm leaving jarjar out currently because unless we have a doc flip+red check on someone we should ignore his alignment and if we get a counter claim obviously. I'm not so sure we should lynch breshke but i'm having a hard time because of where my town reads are currently.
Damdred
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January 19 2015 03:14 GMT
#926
Which obviously after looking back on shinings filter and seeing my mistake at the read and his explanations+replies had me move him back towards the lower side of my towny list. And LS shouldn't be lynched obviously
Damdred
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January 19 2015 03:17 GMT
#927
On January 19 2015 12:13 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2015 12:09 Damdred wrote:
On January 19 2015 12:02 rsoultin wrote:
Yeah, I guess you're right, Damdred. It could be a false claim, technically, since mafia knows the setup. Just not sure where that gets us? Do you want to proceed as if it were false?

Why do you think that Trfel is the lynch tomorrow? You got onto us for not being willing to lynch inactives last game, and we've only got two mislynches left before scum wins.



Obviously jarjar will be alive tomorrow more than likely just for wifom if hes tracker and more than likely he will be blocked if he is the true tracker. I'm not going to give scum strategy so we shouldn't talk about it to much in depth, but until we start seeing some flips of another power role we need to just ignore it for now more than likely. I don't have much to substantiate with but the "softing/scum slip" earlier makes me a bit weary to believe the claim.

We have little inactives, I think we can eliminate shining from lynch tomorrow. Breshke needs a good day, LM needs a decent day. Those to me are our really only inactives and they aren't spammy but are here if we have a cop I would check one of them and hope to get lucky.

Trfel has been the least interested in the days activity I think, and has really changed the play from all of the other games I played with him in. Even in the last newbie it seemed very similar to carol/last student mafia. Was pretty strong even if he wasn't as inactive, and as blue in carol he was really strong. This just seems like a weird mirror like performance, playing down his ability no real scum reads sheeping instead of pushing. Being wrong is good in mafia it helps you get more information instead of laying back


...

Forgive me if this sounds crusty but why the hell are you coming to this conclusion now when I've been saying it all along? >< I stopped pushing trfel because I couldn't get any traction and started wondering if I was just being a stubborn ass again and blind to what everyone else was seeing.


Nights the best time for re-evaluation and talking through your reads and scum hunting more I say. If I get shot I need my thoughts out there anyway.

there felt like a good bit of resistance to a tr lynch, and I felt LM and cool was scummier at the moments, after a relook at tr filter I found a lot of scum traits. also I considered tr was a blue so I didn't want to bring it up but then I checked on his other blue game and it directly mirrored his VT game even though he was more absent in carol he bled town whenever he was there. Not so here, I think hes scummy now though. And I was halfway afk through most of th eday
Damdred
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January 19 2015 03:19 GMT
#928
On January 19 2015 12:13 The Shining wrote:
Damdred - Yes. I'm leaning you and GB as slight town after getting my responses from you two. I'm not sure how much weight I'll put into the D1 tracker claim from JJB but its definitely something I want to vet. Hard. If it is a true claim, it was mentioned scum might leave him be and RB him. I want to see how and why WWs wagon picked up after the claim from Jar Jar and if any voters look like scum trying to jump on a wagon to save scum JJ with his possible fake claim. I leave work in an hour so a few hours after that, I can dig into votes more in depth.

The last minute vote and timing of LM and subsequent disappearance makes it possible this was a mafia lynchtrain as well. Again, need to look more into LM once I get home. One of these 2 is scum, just not sure which. And I agree that JJ living through tonight doesnt automatically mean he is scum.

Also, LS, that seemed like a horrible play if you're really Town. Whether Damdred was bread crumbing, hinting at it or it really was just a typo, the fact of the matter is it wasn't obvious until you yelled "HEY DID YOU JUST CLAIM DOCTOR?!" so now the entire thread, including scum, saw it. I really don't like the feeling I just got from you doing that.


Do you think that the train was started by a scum in geript or scum just took advantage of it?
Damdred
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January 19 2015 03:22 GMT
#930
You were in the last newbie game with him I believe, how different do you think his play is from there to here? (he claims he played bad in that newbie game as well)
Damdred
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January 19 2015 04:29 GMT
#946
I wish I could somehow pull off such a double bus as that. It would require such balls that I just don't I could do it and not blink lol.

Anyway theres one wagon that we all jumped off of right as it was forming and that was LM. I think it ended up tied with me right before everyone jumped on jarjar.

Damdred
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January 19 2015 04:57 GMT
#947
I'm somewhat breaking my promise about not doing a ton of quotes in a post but i'm going to hide them behind spoilers to make readability better.

Going into EoD, I had a few problems with LM.

These problems were mainly, a disconnect from the game. The catch up posts were incredibly behind and out of context they looked ok but in context seemed really disjoined and didn't flow well with the thread. Wasn't really interested in interactions much going into the day either.

I decided to look into EoD for LM and a few thing struck out at me.

The last quote in the spoilers is interesting to me, the vote hinges on WW voting with his scum read on tr. When if you check the votes and pay attention WW was on GB well before Tr even made a move that way. So it was an excuse to strengthen a mislynch which is telling to me, why lie and over explain your vote?

At the start of the quotes (previously jarjar was only mentioned twice and never was really sure if it was a scum read or what but was non committal) Asks why wouldn't you lynch jarjar, makes some noncommittal marks about somewhat scum reading me because it looks like my train is about to take off.

Next quote is a inconsitancy as LM never said that he didn't want to vote Jarjar, and also I think the train was going against GB and it was better to say I shouldn't be the lynch at this moment.

Overall it looks like someone just trying to find a safe spot for a vote, lying and over explaining everything while not really trying to rock the vote while parroting at points to.

pretty sure this person is scum. Quotes are in filter

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 19 2015 03:45 LoneMeow wrote:
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On January 19 2015 03:39 rsoultin wrote:
On January 19 2015 03:27 LoneMeow wrote:
rsoultin, so if I somehow manage to convince you to not lynch me, and Trfel isn't viable either, who's the next best choice?


I've looked at GB. I can see the complaints, but I think they've been overstated.

I've looked at you and my main issue was you didn't seem to care. Trying to help me find a viable lynch would go a long way to help change that opinion.

I won't vote for JarJar or LS today. I don't like a push on Shining, either, though I'm less certain on him. WW I think is probably town or he has a weirdly aggressive scum game lol.

Getting itchy feelings about Damdred...can't pin down why.

I want to hear Geript's poe. He told me that he looks for towns when he plays instead of scum, and lynches from what's left. I'm not sure that I'm seeing that this game, tbh.


Definitely not lynching LightningStrike today.
Why not jarjarbinks? As a matter of fact, I do agree with that, but I want to hear your reasons.

I need to reread Damdred and geript.


On January 19 2015 06:47 LoneMeow wrote:
Not lynching Damdred today unless there's something new on him, I quickly read his filter and I think he's more likely town than not.

I prefer jarjarbinks over GlowingBear despite what I said earlier about not wanting to lynch him today. jarjarbinks just seems to be making apologies and sitting in the background whereas GlowingBear is very vocally pushing for his lynch.

##Vote: jarjarbinks


On January 19 2015 06:57 LoneMeow wrote:
Wait, TheWarWaffle was actually voting with his previous best scum read Trfel? Yeah I'm ok with lynching him.

##Unvote
##Vote: TheWarWaffle

Damdred
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January 19 2015 05:19 GMT
#948
People comment on this and by over explained probably overly justified is a better phrase
Damdred
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January 19 2015 05:19 GMT
#949
Geript could you talk me through how you came to the conclusion we was better than all the other trains?
Damdred
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January 19 2015 06:26 GMT
#953
Any thoughts on what I posted
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January 19 2015 06:31 GMT
#956
Why didn't you want to lynch him
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January 19 2015 16:21 GMT
#963
Did you find anything in context, and I think your reasons are weak dp.
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January 19 2015 16:49 GMT
#966
I noticed that you said dps reasoning's were weak. What do you make of that?
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January 19 2015 17:39 GMT
#971
On January 20 2015 02:32 rsoultin wrote:
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On January 20 2015 01:49 Damdred wrote:
I noticed that you said dps reasoning's were weak. What do you make of that?


quid pro quo

you also said his reasoning was weak after I did. What's your take?


Yea I don't see how LM is really re-evaluating reads or votes from that, he got caught in a mistake/lie/not reading and had to back peddle from it. Nothing really towny about that.

His other posts were really disjoined and really weren't flowing with the game in most spots so not sure why they were so good?
Damdred
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January 19 2015 17:49 GMT
#973
On January 20 2015 02:45 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 02:39 Damdred wrote:
On January 20 2015 02:32 rsoultin wrote:
On January 20 2015 01:49 Damdred wrote:
I noticed that you said dps reasoning's were weak. What do you make of that?


quid pro quo

you also said his reasoning was weak after I did. What's your take?


Yea I don't see how LM is really re-evaluating reads or votes from that, he got caught in a mistake/lie/not reading and had to back peddle from it. Nothing really towny about that.

His other posts were really disjoined and really weren't flowing with the game in most spots so not sure why they were so good?


Lol, no offense, but that's pretty obvious. What do you take from that regarding DP?


No clue DP is a better player than that though
Damdred
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January 19 2015 22:45 GMT
#985
Setup two is tracker cop.

Explains a lot. lynch trfel
Damdred
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January 19 2015 23:05 GMT
#989
Great job LS, you play Blue well.

##vote trfel
Damdred
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January 20 2015 00:22 GMT
#999
Lol, Geript might actually be Scum after those posts.
Damdred
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January 20 2015 00:26 GMT
#1000
I'll post why when I get home but it's overly defensive
Damdred
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January 20 2015 00:41 GMT
#1003
JJB is an unccd tracker so really doesn't matter. On that regard if we have a doc claim and we have two Scum down.

The kill wasn't that bad. GB actions basically confirmed him as town, jarhar had suspicion over his claim so he wouldn't be a good night kill.

DP might be mafia at least one of the vets is probably try hard. But his post at eon made it seem he thought he would die, but that's wifom.

You tr dp dp town reads you. No reason to kill someone tr you at this moment. Kills in imperial were done for wifom and keep people who aren't confirmed and other reasons.

Either way, if rs doesn't understand something quote yourself instead of getting aggravated. In your first four posts you have, thrown dirt on jarjar ls damdred and rs.

I don't see town!Geript doing this when we have a red check.
Damdred
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January 20 2015 02:30 GMT
#1030
Of course we kill the confirmed scum right now.

Anyway I really agree with LS here, Trfel was so different from his first two games I played with him in no way he was town at this point. Can't really say its a bus by rsoultin
Damdred
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January 20 2015 02:49 GMT
#1035
On January 20 2015 11:46 geript wrote:
Scanning Trfel's filter. LM and JJB look to be the most likely mafia partners. I should've just lynched Trfel though. His flip onto GB when he had strongly townread him was odd especially after pushing LM.


But unless we get a medic claim or a tracker cc I really doubt jjb is the mafia at this point.

LM is a good shot at mafia though.
Damdred
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January 20 2015 02:54 GMT
#1036
Geript, lets say I calmed down and have taken a step back and gazed over your filters in Russian mafia and here. Im comfortable saying the anger here isn't like what happens in Russian where you are just 100% cool until you get caught by what you deem to be an imbalanced game.

I don't see you throwing doubts on people as mafia in this case, you would roll with it and bus your team mate without questioning claims I think.

I think you are towny this game, and shouldn't let my paranoia get the better of me probably.

So that leaves me with staring at (minus town reads)

Breshke
LM

geript talk to me about DP. How sure are you that hes town right here? I know you were pretty sure earlier?
Damdred
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January 20 2015 03:01 GMT
#1041
On January 20 2015 11:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Damdred I know you played with Geript in Imperial Mafia (I was shadowing Palmar who you guys help mislynch) when he was VT does his play here so far similar to how he played in Imperial Mafia? Can you tell me any difference in his play here compared to there?


I really couldn't tell you because I don't think imperial is a good representation of Geripts town game. But I will say this as mafia geript is a lot more accommodating to questions rather than telling people go read I've already answered it.
Damdred
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January 20 2015 03:02 GMT
#1042
Well I am a bit unsure of geript but I think hes town here.
Damdred
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January 20 2015 04:13 GMT
#1072
Shining did a decent amount of work post flip and had some decent thoughts. Its generally a townie trait to jump straight in and get thoughts in during the night to me, some of his other things had a nice push to it as well.

Its one of my weaker town reads but I doubt I lynch him tomorrow.

Damdred
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January 20 2015 04:40 GMT
#1077
Damdred (2): rsoultin, LightningStrike
jarjarbinks (4): Breshke, Damdred, GlowingBear, LoneMeow
GlowingBear (6): geript, TheWarWaffle, DarthPunk, jarjarbinks, The Shining, Trfel

This is from my point of view obviously

So this is the way its looking right now Breshke. if we go by what you say and scum are spread out that would make rsoultin the last scum for you? I would think that there might be two scum on the GB wagon pushing it over the cliff.
Damdred
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January 20 2015 04:41 GMT
#1079
On January 20 2015 13:38 Breshke wrote:
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On January 20 2015 13:13 Damdred wrote:
Shining did a decent amount of work post flip and had some decent thoughts. Its generally a townie trait to jump straight in and get thoughts in during the night to me, some of his other things had a nice push to it as well.

Its one of my weaker town reads but I doubt I lynch him tomorrow.



I agree with the bolded part.

Out of your town reads which two are you most sure on and which two are you least sure on or even list them all if that's easier because i think you're town and that means you have to be wrong on one of them.


Most sure of Rsoultin and Geript at this point, least sure of Breshke and Dp. Shining is somewhere inbetween the two sets.
Damdred
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January 20 2015 04:50 GMT
#1082
On January 20 2015 13:41 rsoultin wrote:
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On January 20 2015 13:34 Breshke wrote:
On January 20 2015 13:14 rsoultin wrote:
On January 20 2015 13:07 Breshke wrote:
On January 20 2015 12:57 rsoultin wrote:
On January 18 2015 13:18 Breshke wrote:
Damdred i had a look at jarjars filter and am probably agreeing with you.

On January 17 2015 18:32 jarjarbinks wrote:
On January 17 2015 07:44 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 17 2015 07:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 17 2015 07:41 LightningStrike wrote:
[quote]
Meh fair enough. What are your thoughts on Tfrels actions so far?


Are you not reading the thread? I just said I thought it was townie. Like we were just talking about that.

Ops I was just a little bit to tunneled on replying to you. I do agree his behavior is most likely town to policy lynch a vet player Day 1 but it not exactly good idea to do it (shurgs)


This is behavior that doesn't surprise me. I'm using this quote because I feel like it best justifies my argument for why I think he's town. Last game (this is a meta read), LS did things like this and got decimated for it. Almost got killed D1. Got killed D2. I would hope this doesn't happen again. On the argument that LS is acting more "ballsy" and that "ballsy=mafia" I would counter with that LS is learning the game and is more confident. Plus, I felt he was kind of right in sticking up for himself in saying that trfel had playing 3 games and that was less "newby" than people were giving him credit for.

IF I had to pick someone to be "the towniest of the town", I would pick LS. He has generated discussion. He is acting similiarly to last game where he was town. Only way to lynch this guy D1 would be to policy lynch him for lack of experience.


This read is almost baseless. Amid all the fluff the two reasons for the town read are that he generated discussion and meta.

As to the generated discussion part i would say many players have done this. The first two that come to mind are Trfel and GB with both of their openings. However in the spoiler below you can see that Jarjar doesn't think that them making waves with their opening is alignment indicative but thinks the fact that LS has generated discussion is townie. The thought process here doesn't seem to line up.


+ Show Spoiler +
On January 17 2015 18:48 jarjarbinks wrote:
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On January 17 2015 15:35 Trfel wrote:
GlowingBear, I'm assuming that you typed those posts over the course of reading the game? So the first things you said were not influenced on the later things? The rest of this post will be using that assumption.

You read jarjarbinks D1 from the previous game (Newbie Mafia). You know that his play was miserable on D1 there as well, and he was town (his play was considerably better after D1). Someone is going to have to teach him how to play D1 (looking at you rsoultin), but I don't think I can see myself lynching him for inactivity, even if he provided a terrible excuse for it.

On January 17 2015 13:45 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 17 2015 10:47 LightningStrike wrote:
I don't think there is a voting thread for this game fyi guys. Also what is the BS Meter? I never heard you use this term before can you explain it please?


OMG THIS IS HORRIBLE

What is so horrible about this post? I mean, it is surprising that LightningStrike didn't know what rsoultin meant by BS meter, but I don't understand why that makes it a horrible post. Are you saying that LightningStrike is scum because of this, or just that the post is bad?

I also noticed that you said that one of my posts was bad, and then one of my paragraphs was bad and full of fluff. Then you townread me. What is the reasoning behind this read? That I attempted to follow your advice for promoting discussion? (for the record, I fully realize that your entrance post is intended to do the exact same thing, and I tried to make a point of it, but no one else responded, so..)

Also, why the emphasis on Damdred?

+ Show Spoiler [For GlowingBear] +
For obvious reasons we can't discuss the effectiveness of my attempts to promote discussion now, but hopefully you can help me with this after the game?


I bolded the part (I hope lol) of this quote that I thought summed up my thoughts on Trfel and GlowingBear. Trfel's vote and GlowingBears equally "interesting" opening is probably due to the strategy GlowingBear helped give Trfel. GlowingBear's explanation of Trfel's Vote makes this WIFOM in my eyes. They both started the way they did to make waves and nothing more. Not alignment indicative in my eyes. That being said, I'm more suspicious of GlowingBear over Trfel because of his playing experience.

A counterargument to this for Trfel is his "stubbornness" on the bottom of page 8. Strange play if you were just trying to "make waves". He could just feel a necessity to defend himself, but I felt the arguments against his vote were relatively weak at the time.

Saying what I said above about GlowingBear, I feel like he might want to try doing something else besides claiming VT at the beginning if that was the "making waves" play that shows balls. Us newbs killed LS for just that last game and we (mostly me) are slow learners.



Also secondly on his meta point he has played one game as town and has never seen him as mafia so that isn't really justified either.

Hence i think his LS read is fairly scummy


So this post here, Breshke. I remember this catching my attention but then I forgot. The meta read obviously doesn't hold that much weight, though I'd think you'd have a read on LS cause you've played with him more. My question is...do you put LS' play early game in the same category as GB's and Trfel's?

This almost seems like a problem with semantics, from my pov.


Um im not exactly sure what you mean but i think the answer is no. GB and trefel both purposely set out to create discussion with opening posts that people would find weird and what not. Whereas LS created discussion by just being LS. The point was both sides were still creating discussion but he seemed to only be townreading LS for it. LS was also his only town read at the time and he seemed fairly certain and i couldnt understand why because as i found both his reasons lacking.

I wouldn't say i have a meta read on LS i havn't played nearly enough games with him or anyone to have any meta reads. I agree that LS can easily be misread as scum when he is town but I also think that works a lot for him when he is mafia because people who have played with him before seem more inclined to town read him like I even found myself doing it this game.


You may be right. I thought he was pretty obvious scum in his scum game, personally...spent all day arguing it lol. But you may be right. I know that I get the feeling sometimes in these games with vets that newbies get picked on, because a lot of them have trouble appearing town. Like, I expect mafia to capitalize on that. (I realize I'm a newbie, too, but reads are my problem way more than getting townread, generally.)

All I'm saying is that generating discussion by posting something what is the word? Contradictory is wrong. Controversial. Posting something controversial vice pressuring and asking questions seem different enough to me to not require someone to read them the same way. That's why this post got my attention.

Do you disagree?


No you are right they are different. What LS was doing was actually pushing the game forward to scumhunt. So yeah you are right about me just arguing semantics I guess i just never really thought of it out of the context of creating discussion vs creating discussion.

Here is where i say i still don't understand how he was reading LS as his one and only town because i still think his reasons were weak because I think LS could easily ask questions as scum. That being said the read as right and LS is town the same as Jarjar so it could easily be me who has to think about stuff differently


You may want to reread? He said LS was towniest of town, at least in the posts you quoted.

At any rate, I find tfel's hard defense of JJB at EoD and my brother only really coming into the thread to say he was roleblocked, then breezing out again, more eeeeeh than I do him concentrating on trying to read players he's played with before. But that's just me. Is it strange that I was more confident he was town before he claimed? lol Un-CCd though so not worth thinking too much on.

Hopefully he'll come back.

Thanks for clarifying.


A hard defense of someone when its coming from mafia is easy. They have perfect information to pull upon, they get cred at the flip and boom good job them. JarJar is acting like bad confirmed town here but hes more than likely town.

Actually at this point someone should of CC'd him by now to give us two mafia on the block.
Damdred
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January 20 2015 04:52 GMT
#1083
On January 20 2015 13:48 Breshke wrote:
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On January 20 2015 13:41 Damdred wrote:
On January 20 2015 13:38 Breshke wrote:
On January 20 2015 13:13 Damdred wrote:
Shining did a decent amount of work post flip and had some decent thoughts. Its generally a townie trait to jump straight in and get thoughts in during the night to me, some of his other things had a nice push to it as well.

Its one of my weaker town reads but I doubt I lynch him tomorrow.



I agree with the bolded part.

Out of your town reads which two are you most sure on and which two are you least sure on or even list them all if that's easier because i think you're town and that means you have to be wrong on one of them.


Most sure of Rsoultin and Geript at this point, least sure of Breshke and Dp. Shining is somewhere inbetween the two sets.


I thought i wasn't one of your townreads wasn't i on your PoE lynch list before?


Right now I have five town reads and its all the unconfirmed people in the game I am 100% wrong on someone.

If tre and LM flip scum DP looks the worst but doesn't necessarily make him scum.

your posts look ok tonight so I have to re look at you. Shining could be scum and rs could be bussing. So yea its not a fun spot to be in
Damdred
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January 20 2015 05:00 GMT
#1086
On January 20 2015 13:55 Breshke wrote:
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On January 20 2015 13:52 Damdred wrote:
On January 20 2015 13:48 Breshke wrote:
On January 20 2015 13:41 Damdred wrote:
On January 20 2015 13:38 Breshke wrote:
On January 20 2015 13:13 Damdred wrote:
Shining did a decent amount of work post flip and had some decent thoughts. Its generally a townie trait to jump straight in and get thoughts in during the night to me, some of his other things had a nice push to it as well.

Its one of my weaker town reads but I doubt I lynch him tomorrow.



I agree with the bolded part.

Out of your town reads which two are you most sure on and which two are you least sure on or even list them all if that's easier because i think you're town and that means you have to be wrong on one of them.


Most sure of Rsoultin and Geript at this point, least sure of Breshke and Dp. Shining is somewhere inbetween the two sets.


I thought i wasn't one of your townreads wasn't i on your PoE lynch list before?


Right now I have five town reads and its all the unconfirmed people in the game I am 100% wrong on someone.

If tre and LM flip scum DP looks the worst but doesn't necessarily make him scum.

your posts look ok tonight so I have to re look at you. Shining could be scum and rs could be bussing. So yea its not a fun spot to be in


Could you explain why if Lm flips scum with trefel DP is most likely. I think geriept said this aswell but then seemed to say DP would bus if his mafia partner wasn't pulling his weight which i think could describe LM although im not sure how he is usually.


I wouldn't say most likely per se, he would look the worst if lm flipped scum due to some meh reasonings on why he wouldn't lynch lm. Which is wifom a bit, and I'm not so sure dp would connect himself to his team mates in that way.

I'm going to read trfels filter tommrowo and glean information I can but now sleep
Damdred
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January 20 2015 15:42 GMT
#1117
Heres the thing, I was in a very real position to get lynched. If GB hadn't of moved jarjar I believe had said he was going to vote me and thread sentiment was, I looked really bad look at the vote In context. IF gb hadn't of said holy shit damdred is town hes not trying to save himself I would of been lynched pretty handily probably.
Damdred
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January 20 2015 18:01 GMT
#1119
I'm here now LS. What you need
Damdred
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January 20 2015 18:11 GMT
#1121
Trfel (red check previous stated reasons), LM (its in my filter but disconnected from the game, doesn't really have reads the eod stuff was just trying to find a spot to seat a vote)

And the third i'm not really sure, my hope is that tr is the roleblocker and they have to pick between shooting one of you and they can check one of the last unconfirmed to me. Right now I have it at

Dp/Breshke
Shining
Rsoultin
Geript

I can't really get closer than that. I really doubt bresh, its a bit wifom but I don't think dp would connect himself so much to his team mates so idk.
Damdred
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January 20 2015 18:34 GMT
#1123
Rsoultin has never been scum here and I couldn't find the other games I played with him in. But it doesn't look like this
Damdred
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January 21 2015 00:41 GMT
#1149
On January 21 2015 09:14 rsoultin wrote:
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On January 21 2015 08:53 geript wrote:
I will say that Damdred's filter looks exceptionally worse in skimming it. Shining is town; then mafia then town then mafia. LS is in the same boat. Las is mafia for trying to get a meta read on Damdred. Then it's the reason he's obviously town. I really don't get it.


The LS thing bugged me cause Damdred has played with LS. The trfel thing bugged me cause Damdred has played with trfel. These two players he should know well enough to have an idea of what is normal and what isn't, probably moreso than I do. The GB thing bugged me because GB was townread, townread, townread then considered as a possible lynch.

There's another thing bugging me, too. WIFOM, so don't jump down my throat for it, but considering who was townread for the EoD antics, you and Damdred benefitted the most from a flipped GB confirmed town.

When you take into account that (assuming no false claims, which I am at this point) and if you take it on faith I'm town (something considerably more easy for me to do than the rest of y'all xP) Damdred literally had no scum on his wagon at all. If scum, that would make it perfectly safe for him not to hammer GB to save himself and get townread in the process.

Trfel was still on LM...and possibly he third scum could have been waiting in the wings...LM or Shining. I know no one has flipped yet, but I don't think it's accurate to say Damdred is confirmed town after all.


This is dumb the bolded especially. LS asked for a meta on me early in the game which caused me to doubt him and put him in mafia pile as evidenced in my filter if you looked. I put him down in the reaction test to see how people reacted and then I said that he was town and haven't moved from that since then.

I've played like one decent game with trfel and I town read and then later in the game it became a scum read before they were checked not sure.

That's just how me and GB are, gb goes damdred is town, scum, town, town town town. Just how we are when we play.

I'm just going to ignore the stupid going on though its ok
Damdred
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January 21 2015 00:44 GMT
#1151
On January 21 2015 09:42 DarthPunk wrote:
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On January 18 2015 12:16 Damdred wrote:
Well geript I'm sure I will miss something talking with you here.

I think your post on dp had good direction, had clear thought patterns and pulled from past experiences in context for that part. It looks really towny from you and so its a really good post I don't think it proves one way or another about dp. But I'm procrastinating because of things diving him because dp has a way of being meh when I read his post.

I think shining is telling the truth about having limited net and drunk which isn't alignment indicative. but his post shows that he read what little of the thread there was to read and he had thoughts about it and was able to articulate them into reasonable points about people.

I hate list posts but his weren't overly bad this time.

I'm actually moving tr down my townlist and sinking. I had the huge post and the reasoning for not having scum reads is pretty bad band didn't sound genuine to me. And the interactions with GB just feel weird at points.


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On January 19 2015 05:56 Damdred wrote:
I'm glad you asked me dp, I am lazy and think your obvious town. I don't see you being Scum nor a lynch so I'm ignoring your filter because I read you in thread as town.


Anyone else find this makes no fucking sense? Damdred progress from not being one way or another on my alignment and doesn't want to dive my filter cause my posts are 'meh',

TO:

I think DP is obvious town and that's why I haven't read his filter.

That is like a complete change in his rational, his read on DP, and justifications to not want to read my filter.


No offense DP, but you have a really egotistical writing style at points especially when talking about vets and newbs and it makes me feel meh about you.

But your postings in the thread were towny in context so no need for me to read your filter at that point.
Damdred
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January 21 2015 00:48 GMT
#1157
On January 21 2015 09:46 DarthPunk wrote:
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On January 21 2015 09:44 Damdred wrote:
On January 21 2015 09:42 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 18 2015 12:16 Damdred wrote:
Well geript I'm sure I will miss something talking with you here.

I think your post on dp had good direction, had clear thought patterns and pulled from past experiences in context for that part. It looks really towny from you and so its a really good post I don't think it proves one way or another about dp. But I'm procrastinating because of things diving him because dp has a way of being meh when I read his post.

I think shining is telling the truth about having limited net and drunk which isn't alignment indicative. but his post shows that he read what little of the thread there was to read and he had thoughts about it and was able to articulate them into reasonable points about people.

I hate list posts but his weren't overly bad this time.

I'm actually moving tr down my townlist and sinking. I had the huge post and the reasoning for not having scum reads is pretty bad band didn't sound genuine to me. And the interactions with GB just feel weird at points.


On January 19 2015 05:56 Damdred wrote:
I'm glad you asked me dp, I am lazy and think your obvious town. I don't see you being Scum nor a lynch so I'm ignoring your filter because I read you in thread as town.


Anyone else find this makes no fucking sense? Damdred progress from not being one way or another on my alignment and doesn't want to dive my filter cause my posts are 'meh',

TO:

I think DP is obvious town and that's why I haven't read his filter.

That is like a complete change in his rational, his read on DP, and justifications to not want to read my filter.


No offense DP, but you have a really egotistical writing style at points especially when talking about vets and newbs and it makes me feel meh about you.

But your postings in the thread were towny in context so no need for me to read your filter at that point.


That is bullshit. In the context you were talking about my alignment. In particular talkiong about my alignment not being one way or another.

If the real reason for not wanting to dive my filter was because I was obv town to you you would have said so, but your reasons was that my posts were meh.

The rational between those two posts is entirely different.


No DP that's not alignment indicative I just hate reading you, quite honestly you drive me insane.

You were obv town though at that point so meh. Your posts make me feel meh they still make me feel meh.
Damdred
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January 21 2015 00:50 GMT
#1158
On January 21 2015 09:48 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 09:41 Damdred wrote:
On January 21 2015 09:14 rsoultin wrote:
On January 21 2015 08:53 geript wrote:
I will say that Damdred's filter looks exceptionally worse in skimming it. Shining is town; then mafia then town then mafia. LS is in the same boat. Las is mafia for trying to get a meta read on Damdred. Then it's the reason he's obviously town. I really don't get it.


The LS thing bugged me cause Damdred has played with LS. The trfel thing bugged me cause Damdred has played with trfel. These two players he should know well enough to have an idea of what is normal and what isn't, probably moreso than I do. The GB thing bugged me because GB was townread, townread, townread then considered as a possible lynch.

There's another thing bugging me, too. WIFOM, so don't jump down my throat for it, but considering who was townread for the EoD antics, you and Damdred benefitted the most from a flipped GB confirmed town.

When you take into account that (assuming no false claims, which I am at this point) and if you take it on faith I'm town (something considerably more easy for me to do than the rest of y'all xP) Damdred literally had no scum on his wagon at all. If scum, that would make it perfectly safe for him not to hammer GB to save himself and get townread in the process.

Trfel was still on LM...and possibly he third scum could have been waiting in the wings...LM or Shining. I know no one has flipped yet, but I don't think it's accurate to say Damdred is confirmed town after all.


This is dumb the bolded especially. LS asked for a meta on me early in the game which caused me to doubt him and put him in mafia pile as evidenced in my filter if you looked. I put him down in the reaction test to see how people reacted and then I said that he was town and haven't moved from that since then.

I've played like one decent game with trfel and I town read and then later in the game it became a scum read before they were checked not sure.

That's just how me and GB are, gb goes damdred is town, scum, town, town town town. Just how we are when we play.

I'm just going to ignore the stupid going on though its ok


LS always hyperfocuses on meta. -_- I find it hard to believe you've failed to notice that. Just like I find it hard to believe you missed Trfel's EXTREME play change.

It's not stupid. Just as it isn't stupid that you townread GB all through the game, then with apparently no explanation said maybe he could be a good lynch? How does that make sense? It certainly doesn't to me. Where did you first start thinking GB was boring, may I ask? Maybe I just missed that part when I went back into your filter before EoD.


LS focusing on meta is good, LS ASKING someone else my meta isn't good. There is a distinct difference between the two.

GB was boring before he pushed me, a boring GB is scum. When GB barely does anything hes boring, he didn't really do anything until he pushed me.
Damdred
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January 21 2015 01:00 GMT
#1162
On January 21 2015 09:52 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 09:48 Damdred wrote:
On January 21 2015 09:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 21 2015 09:44 Damdred wrote:
On January 21 2015 09:42 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 18 2015 12:16 Damdred wrote:
Well geript I'm sure I will miss something talking with you here.

I think your post on dp had good direction, had clear thought patterns and pulled from past experiences in context for that part. It looks really towny from you and so its a really good post I don't think it proves one way or another about dp. But I'm procrastinating because of things diving him because dp has a way of being meh when I read his post.

I think shining is telling the truth about having limited net and drunk which isn't alignment indicative. but his post shows that he read what little of the thread there was to read and he had thoughts about it and was able to articulate them into reasonable points about people.

I hate list posts but his weren't overly bad this time.

I'm actually moving tr down my townlist and sinking. I had the huge post and the reasoning for not having scum reads is pretty bad band didn't sound genuine to me. And the interactions with GB just feel weird at points.


On January 19 2015 05:56 Damdred wrote:
I'm glad you asked me dp, I am lazy and think your obvious town. I don't see you being Scum nor a lynch so I'm ignoring your filter because I read you in thread as town.


Anyone else find this makes no fucking sense? Damdred progress from not being one way or another on my alignment and doesn't want to dive my filter cause my posts are 'meh',

TO:

I think DP is obvious town and that's why I haven't read his filter.

That is like a complete change in his rational, his read on DP, and justifications to not want to read my filter.


No offense DP, but you have a really egotistical writing style at points especially when talking about vets and newbs and it makes me feel meh about you.

But your postings in the thread were towny in context so no need for me to read your filter at that point.


That is bullshit. In the context you were talking about my alignment. In particular talkiong about my alignment not being one way or another.

If the real reason for not wanting to dive my filter was because I was obv town to you you would have said so, but your reasons was that my posts were meh.

The rational between those two posts is entirely different.


No DP that's not alignment indicative I just hate reading you, quite honestly you drive me insane.

You were obv town though at that point so meh. Your posts make me feel meh they still make me feel meh.


Then why not state I was obv town as the reason you were not going to read my alignment in the context of discussing my alignment with Geript?

Instead you said my alignment was 'not one way or the other' and that you Didn;t want to read my posts because they were meh.

So which was it? Was I obv town and that is the reason not to read my filter or was it 'not one way or the other' and Meh posting that was the reason not to read my filter?

Your story is shaky as fuck.


Not really sure what you want me to say, Geripts post was good but I didn't think it made you scum. Your posting style is meh to me.

I said later in the thread that you were obv town because of what I read when I was reading town, both truths can exist at the same time
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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January 21 2015 04:03 GMT
#1178
Trfel if you are really town and LS is mafia which is highly doubtful. You should leave us with some form of last will or do something towny which you aren't doing.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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January 21 2015 04:17 GMT
#1181
soooo you walk into the day with a claimed tracker and ls claim cop and you wait till now to claim? And you dangle it like this? go ahead though
Damdred
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January 21 2015 04:21 GMT
#1182
Come on now you dangled it lets hear the claim
Damdred
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January 21 2015 04:30 GMT
#1185
Claim or you die basically. Which is whats going to happen as LS claim is really believable especially since you are putting on this show. You already basically claimed so if you are blue you 100% should cc. as if you survive mafia will shoot you anyway you know?
Damdred
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January 21 2015 04:36 GMT
#1187
You can't, someone has claimed a red check on you.

We are killing you off unless you claim come up with an amazing defense.
Damdred
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January 21 2015 04:45 GMT
#1189
Your right in that regard, trfel dies.

Unless tr claims and LS rescends claim but yea.
Damdred
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January 21 2015 04:57 GMT
#1195
On January 21 2015 13:52 Trfel wrote:
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On January 21 2015 13:36 Damdred wrote:
You can't, someone has claimed a red check on you.

We are killing you off unless you claim come up with an amazing defense.

Did I not already demonstrate how LightningStrike is scum? I thought it was rather conclusive.

I know that I am town.

He says that I am scum.

There are a few options.
1. I got sent the wrong PM
2. There is actually an unaware miller in this game
3. LightningStrike is the worst town player of all time
4. LightningStrike is a mafia who lied to get a threat lynched

BlazingHand is a good host, so the first two options are unlikely. LightningStrike may well be the worst town player of all time, however my play this game is showing that I am even worse, since he seems to be getting me lynched, therefore this is not possible. (To make everything clear I am kidding, LightningStrike is cool, but my point stands). Therefore the only logical option is that LightningStrike is a mafia who false claimed.

The reason for this is having both roles claimed makes it even harder for the town to actually claim. Especially since he faked his check on me. Also, I was suspicious of him early on. I noticed the weirdness in his play. It's natural for him to try and get me out of the way quickly.


LS is universally town read by the game, this is a suicide mission if hes mafia and they only gain one mislynch from it. You or LM were the likely lynch today either way.

LS came out really early with his check instantly pretty much as any cop would do with a red check. Your defense is actually bad and you haven't proven LS is mafia at all or described why hes mafia at all.

Or claimed, and as such hes an un cc'd cop and won't be lynched. Try again
Damdred
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January 21 2015 04:57 GMT
#1196
On January 21 2015 13:55 DarthPunk wrote:
If trfel and LS are BOTH town.

I will kill myself in rage and frustration.


You would think if this is true someone would of cc'd ls instantly though
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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January 21 2015 04:58 GMT
#1198
And honestly tr you can't rely on I got a town pm to clear yourself you did not establish yourself as towny in the thread at all, your play was different from every other town game you been in be it as a power role or not.

So get it over with tell us your claim and what you did last night
Damdred
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January 21 2015 05:07 GMT
#1200
so what role are you again? and what did you do last night with it?

lol going to bed
Damdred
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January 21 2015 21:25 GMT
#1214
you wouldn't even claim have fun in the void mafia
Damdred
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January 21 2015 22:13 GMT
#1223
Good job ls I'll look through tr filter soon
Damdred
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January 22 2015 02:15 GMT
#1256
In day one I really didn't care if I got lynched or not, at that point I thought GB was town. And at that point it was either gb or me and GB had been playing better due to putting in work than me obviously.

I thought JJB had been playing scummy so tried to get a wagon moved there instead of on gb which happened and he turned out to be blue and we moved the wagon onto your lynch.

Afterwards I just went to work to try to figure the game out.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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January 22 2015 02:39 GMT
#1258
On January 22 2015 11:23 rsoultin wrote:
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On January 22 2015 11:15 Damdred wrote:
In day one I really didn't care if I got lynched or not, at that point I thought GB was town. And at that point it was either gb or me and GB had been playing better due to putting in work than me obviously.

I thought JJB had been playing scummy so tried to get a wagon moved there instead of on gb which happened and he turned out to be blue and we moved the wagon onto your lynch.

Afterwards I just went to work to try to figure the game out.


Lol, Damdy, you were a bit quick on that one, weren'tcha? I wasn't asking you why geript didn't like you...or what you had to say for yourself xP

And...what did you figure out? No offense, but I don't think an LM read is particularly earth-shattering then or now.


Geript asked me a page ago what I was doing in day one.
Damdred
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January 22 2015 03:10 GMT
#1260
Just how GB pushed and formatted his case made him town
Damdred
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January 22 2015 22:12 GMT
#1276
Goof Job LS played decently this game bud.

Today we lynch lm.
Damdred
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January 22 2015 22:28 GMT
#1278
I answered that lol.

GB was acting super towny and would rather GB live since he was doing some work then me who was playing horribly.

I was getting final reads ready for death meh
Damdred
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January 22 2015 22:33 GMT
#1280
Can you tell me what said point was real fast, I can't remember it and I'm on phone
Damdred
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January 22 2015 23:31 GMT
#1288
I think I was in real danger of getting lynched, before GB went towards the don't kill damdred zone, jarjar was going to vote me I believe and rs was thinking about it. Sojust because votes end one way doesn't make it so.

I gotta think But lm should be lynched then IDK gotta decide
Damdred
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January 22 2015 23:39 GMT
#1292
On January 23 2015 08:32 Breshke wrote:
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On January 23 2015 08:14 geript wrote:
Actually, I'm just going to sheep Breshke. He's obviously reading far more carefully than I am right now.

##vote Lonemeow


I cant tell if this is sarcasm or not but in any case it is a bad idea.


Why?
Damdred
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January 22 2015 23:43 GMT
#1293
Geript why is what beshke saying so good when it's almost the exact thing that me and rsoultin were saying night 1? Besides the New info
Damdred
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January 23 2015 14:22 GMT
#1377
DP seems to be involved and connected to the game and giving thoughts, I think even though I have some doubts about him I don't think he would connect himself with the scum team like this if LM is scum which is a real possibility.

Breshke looks the best coming into today really putting in the effort to try to solve the game and answer questions about him

Rsoultin looks great as well, questioning everything and seems paranoid enough to be towny plus actions before.

Jarjar: Un cc'd blue

Town:
Breshke
Rsoultin
DP
JarJar

I think, that Geript feels really disconnected from the game and he sometimes really lacks followup and can't really tell what hes doing anymore. Really seems like yesterday he was disparaging the claim of LS and JarJar trying to put doubts setting up trfels counter claim which trfel totally fell through with. But that's wifom, besides that. The question about the day 1 lynch will bother people because why would mafia want to pull off a town? Perhaps to stop town from lynching LM as a last second lynch, as GB myself both lost ton of traction and GB my main pusher stopped and jarjar was claiming blue so getting people from looking at LM would be good.

LM is the other mafia I think, not trying to solve the game.

I think tis geript and LM at this point. But we will see and geript will give me tons of flack for this post I know hehe

##Vote LM
Damdred
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January 23 2015 20:18 GMT
#1388
Geripts response is interesting. If I'm lynched take note that he never refuted anything I said about his lack of connectivity with the game. Nor does he specifically draw instances of unbellievale read changes.

my read on RS has been static, dp has been mainly unchanged besides thinking maybe he could be on a scum team but ita doubtful. Breshke has put in effort I townread shining before I misread a post then put him back as town. The main one I think would be GB who I've played with 20 times probably.

Overall this is a classic over reaction to try to get people on me.

I bring you to geripts weird read on trfel, him trying to get claims discredited during d3 and his total disconnect from the game and lack of follow up unless provoked.

while I'm playing a bad game I know scum and he is the last after lm
Damdred
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January 23 2015 20:58 GMT
#1391
I am playing badly and that's ok, gl
Damdred
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January 23 2015 21:08 GMT
#1392
Honestly the reason I never analyzed your post was because you called dp scum on it then buddies him later so I never bothered to read it. By pie you are scum. I'll answer the rest later, but still scum reading someone for changing stances is bs and you know it.

Look how you react you are disconnected at points not even knowing that most of the reasons breshke brings up for lm that you call good have already been stated in thread? That's total lack of reading right there, yet its good then but bad ealier.

and no this is different at times you make this huge effort to look towny when you need to be and then you go back into this idgaf mood where you do jack shit. Its more like Russian mafia than any of your town games shrug
Damdred
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January 23 2015 21:15 GMT
#1393
And also to elaborate on how I've played badly.

Job one of every town is to make it known that you are town and people know this job two is find mafia. Job two is over job one was horrid.

Anyway yea off to work
Damdred
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January 23 2015 22:12 GMT
#1395
Can't wait to flip town and I hope the town lynched Geript as my last wish
Damdred
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January 23 2015 22:36 GMT
#1397
Since I'm town that doesn't matter
Damdred
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January 23 2015 22:50 GMT
#1402
Jarjar was lynch bait day 2 probably had someone ready to fake claim to get a mismatch. Nobody has ccd, and LS took kp last night.

This is a horrible thought,
Damdred
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January 23 2015 22:58 GMT
#1405
There cc failed in tr it looks like and everyone else besides you Geript has shown 100% believed the claim so everyone else is basically claiming mafia
Damdred
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January 23 2015 23:33 GMT
#1420
I'll have to filter dive later at work atm to show Geript being weird about claims d2 onward.

I think rs and Breske have the right of it
Damdred
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January 24 2015 00:39 GMT
#1432
I don't get it why would you lynch jjb in that case?
Damdred
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January 24 2015 00:40 GMT
#1433
Oh num misread
Damdred
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January 24 2015 00:41 GMT
#1434
But seriously that's not a real answer. You have to have someone you are Scum reading past me
Damdred
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January 24 2015 00:45 GMT
#1437
Ok prediction, rs dies tonight or Tommorow with jarjar the following day or tonight leaving a final of. Geript dp, shining, Breske. That is scary
Damdred
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January 24 2015 00:48 GMT
#1443
Geript is town read by a majority, I'm null read to Scum read by majority
Damdred
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January 24 2015 00:50 GMT
#1445
I'll explain after game why I've been apathetic about the thread a bit. But I'm town
Damdred
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January 24 2015 01:13 GMT
#1454
Tell me about what's going on shining instead of about old things
Damdred
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January 24 2015 02:25 GMT
#1480
Shining how was I echoing thread sentiment when I brought up original points at the time against him?
Damdred
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January 24 2015 15:52 GMT
#1569
@JarJar, Rsoultin, JarJar and Dp are the towniest towns at this point.

The shining random change was as stated before was because of a misread of one of his posts. I thought he was pushing me scum with LM and voted JarJar I believe, when I just read the sentence wrong and it was between LM and JarJar. It was an easy mistake to make when phone reading and led to a scum read that when my mistake was realized the read had to changed based on that new information. Its like if DP said something like "IF I claimed cop we would lynch first claim" after someone had already claimed cop and I missed the IF (even though the sentence doesn't make sense) would make me scum read one of the two if I misread the statement, corrections must be made.

Theres not much to say about GB honestly, when you know that someone is town by the way they push something its just apparent. GB was boring before he started pushing his case, its a simple read but it is what it is. Once GB got to work it was apparent that he was town from the work and should of been obvious to the thread even if they weren't paying full attention. Plus I did give reasons like the push being similar to other games in tone and the feel of the push, even if DP disagreed the reasons were given so this is a bs reason to scum read me.

Being disconnected from the game overall isn't that subjective and it is true. Geript hasn't really been that involved past a point and forgets about posts or seemily skips over posts and just seems dissatisfied when hes in game during certain points. That's a form of disconnect i'm sorry to say.

Im sticking on LM here
Damdred
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January 24 2015 16:50 GMT
#1579
The point today where I went this can't be town Geript was when he looked at breshkes post about why LM was scum and was like "this is great reasons haven't read any good reasons" which is a paraphrase. It struck me as odd and really disjointed towards the game since a lot of it was already stated before.

Then you go and look back a bit and Geript lacks a little bit of follow up when you aren't directly talking to him, which bothered me a bit.

Damdred
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January 24 2015 17:04 GMT
#1582
I was answering the charges that LM brought against me, which btw its odd he spent more time hammering on the secondary thread sentiment in Damdred then someone who he said is his preferred lynch in breshke don't you think?
Damdred
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January 24 2015 17:41 GMT
#1584
Rsoultin doing POE this is where I am currently

JarJar
Rsoultin
DP
Shining/Breshke

Geript
LM

If you had to pick two people I was most wrong about which two would it be?
Damdred
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January 24 2015 18:21 GMT
#1592
No i'm really not the night and next phase will be better for that I think. PoE has you as scum, and there are some reasons to scum read you right now
Damdred
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January 24 2015 18:49 GMT
#1594
On January 25 2015 03:43 rsoultin wrote:
Damdred, please walk me through your read progression on geript.

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On January 18 2015 06:15 Damdred wrote:
He really hasn't posted any reads quite yet so he hasn't answered my question at this point so not much to garner yet.

Geript has some good thoughts in his posts. I can't really tell his alignment yet


That was your Damdred post mentioning alignment (null is my interpretation). In his initial large reads posts he just mentioned Geript's first post. I agree that one post alone is hard to judge anyone by so this isn't a red flag for me...

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On January 19 2015 05:56 Damdred wrote:
I'm glad you asked me dp, I am lazy and think your obvious town. I don't see you being Scum nor a lynch so I'm ignoring your filter because I read you in thread as town.

Geript is pretty town, if he's alive after d2 and no roles claim he's pulling a Russian mafia but he looks super towny

LS is town based on hi a addiction to meta as town.

Jjb is mafia I think


As a point of curiosity, what did you mean there, Damdred? I don't understand the significance of people claiming roles.

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On January 20 2015 09:22 Damdred wrote:
Lol, Geript might actually be Scum after those posts.


Please clarify which posts. I know what I think you're saying, but it's better if you just tell me. I've linked where this post was in the thread.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475036-student-mafia-v?page=50#999

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On January 20 2015 11:54 Damdred wrote:
Geript, lets say I calmed down and have taken a step back and gazed over your filters in Russian mafia and here. Im comfortable saying the anger here isn't like what happens in Russian where you are just 100% cool until you get caught by what you deem to be an imbalanced game.

I don't see you throwing doubts on people as mafia in this case, you would roll with it and bus your team mate without questioning claims I think.

I think you are towny this game, and shouldn't let my paranoia get the better of me probably.

So that leaves me with staring at (minus town reads)

Breshke
LM

geript talk to me about DP. How sure are you that hes town right here? I know you were pretty sure earlier?


Can you explain Russian to me? This is the second time you've mentioned it in trying to determine geript's alignment.

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On January 23 2015 23:22 Damdred wrote:
DP seems to be involved and connected to the game and giving thoughts, I think even though I have some doubts about him I don't think he would connect himself with the scum team like this if LM is scum which is a real possibility.

Breshke looks the best coming into today really putting in the effort to try to solve the game and answer questions about him

Rsoultin looks great as well, questioning everything and seems paranoid enough to be towny plus actions before.

Jarjar: Un cc'd blue

Town:
Breshke
Rsoultin
DP
JarJar

I think, that Geript feels really disconnected from the game and he sometimes really lacks followup and can't really tell what hes doing anymore. Really seems like yesterday he was disparaging the claim of LS and JarJar trying to put doubts setting up trfels counter claim which trfel totally fell through with. But that's wifom, besides that. The question about the day 1 lynch will bother people because why would mafia want to pull off a town? Perhaps to stop town from lynching LM as a last second lynch, as GB myself both lost ton of traction and GB my main pusher stopped and jarjar was claiming blue so getting people from looking at LM would be good.

LM is the other mafia I think, not trying to solve the game.

I think tis geript and LM at this point. But we will see and geript will give me tons of flack for this post I know hehe

##Vote LM


So...these are the actual times that I've noticed a distinct read change in Damdred's filter on geript. Geript, what makes this scummy to you? Apart from, you know, you not liking people thinking you could be scum, anyway.


To the first question, Geript would normally be a high priority night kill. Obviously with both of our blues coming out early he would be shuffled down the list but if he was alive with no blues claimed then it would be possible hes scum at that point.

That point it was all so random posting and made it seem like Geript was questioning whether LS actually had a red check on trfel and was throwing a bit of shadow in my mind on the claim. Was just a weird series of posts by geript at that point.

Russian mafia geript played one of the best games of scum I ever saw him play, really town sided a lot of the time did just enough to get mislynches, ended up getting caught by a tracker/watcher though. Was a fun game though.
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January 24 2015 18:57 GMT
#1596
On January 25 2015 03:52 rsoultin wrote:
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On January 25 2015 03:49 Damdred wrote:
On January 25 2015 03:43 rsoultin wrote:
Damdred, please walk me through your read progression on geript.

On January 18 2015 06:15 Damdred wrote:
He really hasn't posted any reads quite yet so he hasn't answered my question at this point so not much to garner yet.

Geript has some good thoughts in his posts. I can't really tell his alignment yet


That was your Damdred post mentioning alignment (null is my interpretation). In his initial large reads posts he just mentioned Geript's first post. I agree that one post alone is hard to judge anyone by so this isn't a red flag for me...

On January 19 2015 05:56 Damdred wrote:
I'm glad you asked me dp, I am lazy and think your obvious town. I don't see you being Scum nor a lynch so I'm ignoring your filter because I read you in thread as town.

Geript is pretty town, if he's alive after d2 and no roles claim he's pulling a Russian mafia but he looks super towny

LS is town based on hi a addiction to meta as town.

Jjb is mafia I think


As a point of curiosity, what did you mean there, Damdred? I don't understand the significance of people claiming roles.

On January 20 2015 09:22 Damdred wrote:
Lol, Geript might actually be Scum after those posts.


Please clarify which posts. I know what I think you're saying, but it's better if you just tell me. I've linked where this post was in the thread.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475036-student-mafia-v?page=50#999

On January 20 2015 11:54 Damdred wrote:
Geript, lets say I calmed down and have taken a step back and gazed over your filters in Russian mafia and here. Im comfortable saying the anger here isn't like what happens in Russian where you are just 100% cool until you get caught by what you deem to be an imbalanced game.

I don't see you throwing doubts on people as mafia in this case, you would roll with it and bus your team mate without questioning claims I think.

I think you are towny this game, and shouldn't let my paranoia get the better of me probably.

So that leaves me with staring at (minus town reads)

Breshke
LM

geript talk to me about DP. How sure are you that hes town right here? I know you were pretty sure earlier?


Can you explain Russian to me? This is the second time you've mentioned it in trying to determine geript's alignment.

On January 23 2015 23:22 Damdred wrote:
DP seems to be involved and connected to the game and giving thoughts, I think even though I have some doubts about him I don't think he would connect himself with the scum team like this if LM is scum which is a real possibility.

Breshke looks the best coming into today really putting in the effort to try to solve the game and answer questions about him

Rsoultin looks great as well, questioning everything and seems paranoid enough to be towny plus actions before.

Jarjar: Un cc'd blue

Town:
Breshke
Rsoultin
DP
JarJar

I think, that Geript feels really disconnected from the game and he sometimes really lacks followup and can't really tell what hes doing anymore. Really seems like yesterday he was disparaging the claim of LS and JarJar trying to put doubts setting up trfels counter claim which trfel totally fell through with. But that's wifom, besides that. The question about the day 1 lynch will bother people because why would mafia want to pull off a town? Perhaps to stop town from lynching LM as a last second lynch, as GB myself both lost ton of traction and GB my main pusher stopped and jarjar was claiming blue so getting people from looking at LM would be good.

LM is the other mafia I think, not trying to solve the game.

I think tis geript and LM at this point. But we will see and geript will give me tons of flack for this post I know hehe

##Vote LM


So...these are the actual times that I've noticed a distinct read change in Damdred's filter on geript. Geript, what makes this scummy to you? Apart from, you know, you not liking people thinking you could be scum, anyway.


To the first question, Geript would normally be a high priority night kill. Obviously with both of our blues coming out early he would be shuffled down the list but if he was alive with no blues claimed then it would be possible hes scum at that point.

That point it was all so random posting and made it seem like Geript was questioning whether LS actually had a red check on trfel and was throwing a bit of shadow in my mind on the claim. Was just a weird series of posts by geript at that point.

Russian mafia geript played one of the best games of scum I ever saw him play, really town sided a lot of the time did just enough to get mislynches, ended up getting caught by a tracker/watcher though. Was a fun game though.


So then am I right in interpreting your referencing Russian as a reason to be paranoid of geript even when his posts seem townie?


Yes, I think I read geript more town when hes mafia then when hes town -_-
Damdred
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January 24 2015 19:51 GMT
#1608
On January 25 2015 03:57 Damdred wrote:
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On January 25 2015 03:52 rsoultin wrote:
On January 25 2015 03:49 Damdred wrote:
On January 25 2015 03:43 rsoultin wrote:
Damdred, please walk me through your read progression on geript.

On January 18 2015 06:15 Damdred wrote:
He really hasn't posted any reads quite yet so he hasn't answered my question at this point so not much to garner yet.

Geript has some good thoughts in his posts. I can't really tell his alignment yet


That was your Damdred post mentioning alignment (null is my interpretation). In his initial large reads posts he just mentioned Geript's first post. I agree that one post alone is hard to judge anyone by so this isn't a red flag for me...

On January 19 2015 05:56 Damdred wrote:
I'm glad you asked me dp, I am lazy and think your obvious town. I don't see you being Scum nor a lynch so I'm ignoring your filter because I read you in thread as town.

Geript is pretty town, if he's alive after d2 and no roles claim he's pulling a Russian mafia but he looks super towny

LS is town based on hi a addiction to meta as town.

Jjb is mafia I think


As a point of curiosity, what did you mean there, Damdred? I don't understand the significance of people claiming roles.

On January 20 2015 09:22 Damdred wrote:
Lol, Geript might actually be Scum after those posts.


Please clarify which posts. I know what I think you're saying, but it's better if you just tell me. I've linked where this post was in the thread.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475036-student-mafia-v?page=50#999

On January 20 2015 11:54 Damdred wrote:
Geript, lets say I calmed down and have taken a step back and gazed over your filters in Russian mafia and here. Im comfortable saying the anger here isn't like what happens in Russian where you are just 100% cool until you get caught by what you deem to be an imbalanced game.

I don't see you throwing doubts on people as mafia in this case, you would roll with it and bus your team mate without questioning claims I think.

I think you are towny this game, and shouldn't let my paranoia get the better of me probably.

So that leaves me with staring at (minus town reads)

Breshke
LM

geript talk to me about DP. How sure are you that hes town right here? I know you were pretty sure earlier?


Can you explain Russian to me? This is the second time you've mentioned it in trying to determine geript's alignment.

On January 23 2015 23:22 Damdred wrote:
DP seems to be involved and connected to the game and giving thoughts, I think even though I have some doubts about him I don't think he would connect himself with the scum team like this if LM is scum which is a real possibility.

Breshke looks the best coming into today really putting in the effort to try to solve the game and answer questions about him

Rsoultin looks great as well, questioning everything and seems paranoid enough to be towny plus actions before.

Jarjar: Un cc'd blue

Town:
Breshke
Rsoultin
DP
JarJar

I think, that Geript feels really disconnected from the game and he sometimes really lacks followup and can't really tell what hes doing anymore. Really seems like yesterday he was disparaging the claim of LS and JarJar trying to put doubts setting up trfels counter claim which trfel totally fell through with. But that's wifom, besides that. The question about the day 1 lynch will bother people because why would mafia want to pull off a town? Perhaps to stop town from lynching LM as a last second lynch, as GB myself both lost ton of traction and GB my main pusher stopped and jarjar was claiming blue so getting people from looking at LM would be good.

LM is the other mafia I think, not trying to solve the game.

I think tis geript and LM at this point. But we will see and geript will give me tons of flack for this post I know hehe

##Vote LM


So...these are the actual times that I've noticed a distinct read change in Damdred's filter on geript. Geript, what makes this scummy to you? Apart from, you know, you not liking people thinking you could be scum, anyway.


To the first question, Geript would normally be a high priority night kill. Obviously with both of our blues coming out early he would be shuffled down the list but if he was alive with no blues claimed then it would be possible hes scum at that point.

That point it was all so random posting and made it seem like Geript was questioning whether LS actually had a red check on trfel and was throwing a bit of shadow in my mind on the claim. Was just a weird series of posts by geript at that point.

Russian mafia geript played one of the best games of scum I ever saw him play, really town sided a lot of the time did just enough to get mislynches, ended up getting caught by a tracker/watcher though. Was a fun game though.


So then am I right in interpreting your referencing Russian as a reason to be paranoid of geript even when his posts seem townie?


Yes, I think I read geript more town when hes mafia then when hes town -_-


Geript why you no read my posts?
Damdred
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January 24 2015 20:00 GMT
#1611
Its not preposterous is the thing, and you yourself should say "I can't read damdred i'm being a dumbass and hes town" that street goes both ways
Damdred
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January 24 2015 20:06 GMT
#1613
Because its true in this game, at times you show this absurd amount of caring and intense scrutiny of everything that's going on.

At others you have this idgaf and seemily don't read things that happened in other parts of the thread. This is not typical of any type of your gameplay.
Damdred
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January 24 2015 21:08 GMT
#1631
As far as I can tell, LM isn't even voting me is he?
Damdred
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January 24 2015 21:14 GMT
#1638
On January 25 2015 06:12 rsoultin wrote:
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On January 25 2015 06:08 Damdred wrote:
As far as I can tell, LM isn't even voting me is he?


He made a case against you but chose not to vote. I can read that as coming from either alignment :/


Basically what i'm getting at is with the inactivity of breshke/shining/lm at this point DP shenanigans or trying to shenny is impossible right now
Damdred
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January 24 2015 21:19 GMT
#1640
I don't disagree with you, its kind of sad nobody else is here though, could get some good information in case they did flip to me.
Damdred
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January 24 2015 21:22 GMT
#1646
Also DP is like 99% never mafia, he made sure he was here EoD at a completely abysmal time for him. Sounds really crappy to clear someone on but its pretty true people who don't really care about the game won't show up, town has more reason to care.
Damdred
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January 24 2015 21:25 GMT
#1650
You know that's a good find geript, I might be interested in lynching Breshke as the try hard here. Its possible...
Damdred
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January 24 2015 21:41 GMT
#1664
I"m not ok with a switch to shining, i'm ok with lynching breshke or LM here. A breshke scum complicates the game a bit and makes the last one hard to catch.
Damdred
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January 24 2015 21:41 GMT
#1665
##Unvote
##Vote Breshke


Lets do this
Damdred
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January 24 2015 21:43 GMT
#1668
I'm wrong more often than not, LM is a lower activity player. And I could be tunneled, and i'm probably wrong about Geript.
Damdred
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January 24 2015 21:44 GMT
#1669
Cause i'm good at reading shining by tone since I've played with him so much and I think hes town and his posts look like how constructed his posts were in the newbie game when iw as his coach
Damdred
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January 24 2015 21:51 GMT
#1683
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/474146-newbie-mini-mafia-lx

That's the game, he even targets setup speculation like he did with the medic talk.

I think breshke is a good lynch here but so is LM
Damdred
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January 24 2015 21:58 GMT
#1705
UCKING GET ON BRESHKE.


I love this new information though
Damdred
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January 24 2015 21:59 GMT
#1708
End game cred, scum team of Breshke and Rsoultin
Damdred
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January 24 2015 22:05 GMT
#1714
On January 25 2015 07:03 rsoultin wrote:
Fing a ><

Okay, you win, DP, I suck at this lol ><


Lets lynch bres then rsoultin
Damdred
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January 24 2015 22:11 GMT
#1720
Geript is cleared he wouldn't pull a second mislynch off a town that's been an almost afk lynch as scum I think. Which is a bit of wifom but hes town, DP is town. So that really narrows down my focus. JarJar is confirmed

Shining, Breshke, Rsoultin.

There are two mafia in there. I think its Breshke and Rsoultin with his unwillingness to switch, LM was acting pretty towny eod.
Damdred
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January 25 2015 04:39 GMT
#1738
I already said why I think shining is town, by POE those three are my most likely scum team. Shining is town i'm like 95% sure of it so its bresh and Rs im pretty sure.
Damdred
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January 25 2015 15:22 GMT
#1768
I've already explained why Geript is town, it's in the post.

And we aren't no lynching final group would be rs, bresh, jarjar, shinning,me. I'd rather have a non ark in there.

We lynch breath Tommorow then go from there.
Damdred
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January 25 2015 15:52 GMT
#1770
I am discussing but if you ask me a question don't quote the answer when you ask it.

It's like people questioning dp, it was an inconvenient time for eod on a Sunday and he made it here to do thing a he's town.
Damdred
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January 25 2015 16:08 GMT
#1772
Scumcan make it to eod, but if the time is a bit meh they won't bother especially with basically an auto lynch set up let alone try to shenanigans onto someone.

Geript and dp and jarjar are confirmed for me. Shining and myself are town I feel. So very little options.

Poe solves games sometimes, and it's pointing to besh and you. It is what it is.
Damdred
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January 25 2015 16:13 GMT
#1773
And yes, Scum can pull people off of town. Day one it's not a bad play but the lynch to push us into Mylo when we basically auto lynching? No they want to hammer that through.

Sorta like how you were ok autolynching and lynching for info to go into mylo.
Damdred
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January 25 2015 16:29 GMT
#1777
No it was an auto lynch we basically threw every vote in the game on lm and most people ark.

Before the last 30 minutes we got no information, now we have information from that lynch, and the sentence about my Poe doesn't invalidate it at all.

Dp has been really towny, he made sense with Scum lm but not with many others.

Because Scum want mylo not to lynch breshke.
Damdred
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January 25 2015 16:40 GMT
#1780
Of course I set up my Poe because I was convinced breshke is Scum here and I still am especially with how breshke came into night phase, Geript right it was really funky.

And I love this you just make me more sure by every post by pulling everything you can that I'm Scum.

LM was acting towny in hindsight more so than breshke. So yes I switches off. And your total reluctance to not only not switch to breshke but not switch to ANYONE is pretty telling.
Damdred
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January 25 2015 16:41 GMT
#1781
I'm sorry if dp was Scum he would kill Geript over GB unless they were Scum together.
Damdred
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January 25 2015 16:50 GMT
#1784
It's not because dp respects Geript and knows Geript has the greatest chance to catch him over new 's. Now if you wanted to you could talk about a Geript dp team, which you have never done even though you say you reason out every person etc.

Lm was acting towny, I don't like ark lynched which is what we were doing. Geript found good point, dp found another it was time to go.
Damdred
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January 25 2015 16:58 GMT
#1786
Thought progresses change and I'm not reading my own filter to make it line up. Geript made a good point, dp did as well I switched. I have enough doubts especially this game to move.

Damdred
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January 25 2015 17:16 GMT
#1793
Obviously when I set up my Poe I was convinced lm was flipping town, which was after voting had closed btw.

Theresistance to the flip makes it highly likely if not assured that breshke is Scum.

Also lm said he was town right as voting ended and it was believable
Damdred
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January 25 2015 17:33 GMT
#1797
I've been saying I'm sure on shining for a long time now. That isn't changing, unless things happen obviously.

I said well before flip I suck at reading Geript, so that's no change. Not sure where you are going with this, the way lm acted right at the end really showed town.

Damdred
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January 25 2015 18:37 GMT
#1810
Most of the time Scum doesn't show to inconvenient deadlines. Your argument comes from what if lm flipped Scum it seems rather than flipping town.

DP woke up when an lm lynch was basically 100% town cares that much. It's town favored, arguing otherwise is silly. It's like Euro players staying up to 4 am to help at deadline that's a town
Damdred
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January 25 2015 20:01 GMT
#1845
Meh shining wasn't on a tablet for all of last game though, which isn't a huge point but he had a comp for a lot of the quotes he did besides that meh.

Here's the thing a better player than I told me that heuristic about waking up/staying up. Instead of attacking the idea, why didn't you instead attack it wasn't an unreasonable time? DP himself said it wasn't to bad?

Can someone besides rs tell me his Scum team pair right now? Or the two likeliest people and why?
Damdred
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January 25 2015 20:04 GMT
#1849
Wait when did you become unsure of shining? You were really sure of him before now rs?

Even though you've attacked almost every person toad you haven't mentioned breshke almost at all why?
Damdred
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January 25 2015 20:06 GMT
#1850
The idea that dp is town for being in thread at a bad time is independent of lm being town? That's pretty simple
Damdred
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January 25 2015 20:11 GMT
#1853
Dp/Geript how hard was the push by rs onto trf to you? How was the follow up?
Damdred
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January 25 2015 20:18 GMT
#1857
I actually think the push on trf is to sure and to aggressive. And the rest of the game rs is really passive and unsure about who Scum is.

After catching tr you would think the opposite is true. Those first few posts just totally to sure to fast
Damdred
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January 25 2015 20:19 GMT
#1859
I think my vote d1 went lm then jarjar then warwaffle what a bad day, I was on cooltlbame before. Man my votes d1 were bad.
Damdred
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January 25 2015 20:23 GMT
#1863
I don't think damdred/dp can be a thing. I'm town but that team is a no go by any logic.

Why don't you have rs on any team?
Damdred
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January 25 2015 20:28 GMT
#1864
You chainsaw defended jarjar for no reason, like he was super scummy and got saved by his blue claim, LS was an ok read. The jarjar looks like tmi at that point when you defended him so hard.

You hit trf out of the gates hard, hard fast and to sure when compared to the rest of your play.
Damdred
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January 25 2015 20:35 GMT
#1869
Don't forget Geript I was the leading wagon before GB started shouting I'm town and jarjar gave GB the leading lynch.
Damdred
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January 25 2015 20:37 GMT
#1871
He has I just finished a game with him as my team mate.
Damdred
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January 25 2015 20:44 GMT
#1876
I do, and she busses the most expendable person on the team at least that time.

Not sure why rs moved off of tr I canteven remember her pushing it at eod. Or really pushedanything to save the towns just don't want to vote them
Damdred
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January 25 2015 21:08 GMT
#1880
I thought you Busd unreliable in that game.

Anyway I wasn't even active just trying to remember it.

Damdred
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January 25 2015 22:39 GMT
#1899
Geript, you won't ever have to lynch me. I'm actually trying to play now, jarjar was confirmed town and wasn't going along with the program.

We shouldn't no lynch today.
Damdred
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January 25 2015 23:44 GMT
#1901
Jarjar wasn't afking and doing nothing like he had been and pushed against a damdred mafia: ).
Damdred
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January 26 2015 00:22 GMT
#1905
Haha everyone else can mention nk but the pair of people I have as mafia jump on me. Pretty funny.

##vote Rasputin
Damdred
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January 26 2015 00:28 GMT
#1907
Sure it does. JarJar was confirmed town, started making good logical conclusions and didn't sheep so he died.

Just so happens he disagreed with rs
Damdred
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January 26 2015 01:01 GMT
#1914
Here's the thing rs, I'll make a huge case when I get home with evidence and the like but I'll give you arsenal peek.1) Gameplay has been super uneven compared between early and later in the game.
2) made a case on trf really didn't push it around eod when everything was going down the drain.
3) Came out hard early was super sure of read replaced by momentary reads.
4) hasn't Scum hunted but only reacted to the thread.
Damdred
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January 26 2015 01:06 GMT
#1916
If you are town rs why aren't you worried about bresh coming so hard alongside you?
Damdred
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January 26 2015 01:16 GMT
#1919
After game I'll explain my lull but I can't say what it is obviously atm.

Most of this isn't an answer/rebuttal so show me the hunting etc
Damdred
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January 26 2015 01:16 GMT
#1920
That's not even an answer to that question. Like at all
Damdred
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January 26 2015 01:19 GMT
#1922
On January 26 2015 10:09 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 10:06 Damdred wrote:
If you are town rs why aren't you worried about bresh coming so hard alongside you?


Let me put this to you very simply, Damdred, so that you can understand.

I am town.

I do not think you are town. In the event that you are town, I am still more sure that I am town than you are.

Clear enough for you?


I just don't get how you can dodge answering a direct question
Damdred
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January 26 2015 01:20 GMT
#1923
Ninjad
Damdred
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January 26 2015 01:22 GMT
#1925
You've asked all these questions. What is my Scum motivation to get off of lm at the end like that to lynch someone else when I already had a town lynch sewn up?
Damdred
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January 26 2015 01:23 GMT
#1926
Your being boring now breshke, mafia generally doesn't pull people off a town lynch going into mylo
Damdred
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January 26 2015 01:29 GMT
#1929
Town cred for what? What's the point of towncred in mylo when half the game is scumming me at least.
Damdred
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January 26 2015 02:45 GMT
#1937
I think RS is scum but i'm going to unvote for now just in case I change my mind and he gets hammered with people afk on him me.

[/b]##unvote[/b]

On January 26 2015 10:33 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 10:29 Damdred wrote:
Town cred for what? What's the point of towncred in mylo when half the game is scumming me at least.


Town cred for not being on a town mislynch. Are you really this obtuse? Why would I give a damn which "town" wagon was being mislynched as scum.

I could have nailed your ass to the floor Day 2 if I was scum and you were town and no one would have cared. I could have nailed Shining when DP tried to push that. Or Breshke. As scum it wouldn't matter to me which scummy-looking townie got the shaft.

You are not this bad, Damdred.


You couldn't of nailed me d3 especially since the votes would of been tied and I wouldn't of voted to lynch myself. And you didn't have the votes to take out shining I think.

So... you think Breshke looks scummy though even though you town read him?
Damdred
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January 26 2015 02:52 GMT
#1938
Also I know the sentence is a sort of hypothetical, but the point still stands that you thought LM, Shining and Breshke look scummy. So why are you keeping shining at arms length at points but you aren't even giving breshke a sideways glance really when he comes in to defend you?
Damdred
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January 26 2015 02:56 GMT
#1940
##Vote Breshke

The buddying thing really bothers me honestly, its just so overboard.
Damdred
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January 26 2015 02:59 GMT
#1941
Breshke why is Rsoultin 100% town here?
Damdred
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January 26 2015 14:22 GMT
#1989
That's interesting, Sunday is my busy work day and didn't feel like doing it last night I just went home and slept.

If you read RS post, he keeps talking to me like he knows i'm town. like when he says Damdred you can't be this stupid, its not being stupid if i'm mafia its me pushing an agenda. But in almost all of his posts he has some form of speak that is like hes talking to someone he thinks is bad town.

That's pretty telling to me.
Damdred
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January 26 2015 14:27 GMT
#1992
Geript right now this is where you are at from what I can see

Town:
Geript
DP
Breshke

which leaves shining and rs? That one feels a bit weird to me
Damdred
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January 26 2015 14:39 GMT
#1997
Erg I wish I hadn't of went ugh D1 and just got nk'd instead of being in mylo.

Heres the problem i'm having, IF breshke is mafia I think Rsoultin could very well be town. I went through breshkes mafia games and he never 100% town reads a partner, bresh either attacks them or gives them light town reads in my eyes. Im not sure that Breshke would basically green check a team mate, which is complete wifom but im' struggling with it.
Damdred
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January 26 2015 22:35 GMT
#2006
I'm here now Geript.

I disagree I think that shining is town but hes afk town which is just as bad.

What do you think about what I said about if breshke town reading rsoul so hard?
Damdred
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January 26 2015 23:06 GMT
#2008
On January 27 2015 07:51 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 07:35 Damdred wrote:
I'm here now Geript.

I disagree I think that shining is town but hes afk town which is just as bad.

What do you think about what I said about if breshke town reading rsoul so hard?

I remember seeing it, but off the top of my head I don't specifically remember the argument/point. Can you point me to a post.


I'll just give you a summary, if breshke is scum he wouldn't town read his partner so hard. compared to other games where he either goes after partners or lightly town reads them
Damdred
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January 26 2015 23:31 GMT
#2012
Post format, and tone and some of the things he points out look like his town game
Damdred
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January 26 2015 23:40 GMT
#2013
Just a look at your other games makes the pairing unlikely meh
Damdred
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January 26 2015 23:49 GMT
#2015
Geript is rsoultin town or scum
Damdred
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January 27 2015 02:30 GMT
#2028
Yea i'll post my case I promise I just have to write it first <3
Damdred
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January 27 2015 02:36 GMT
#2029
Also I ackwoledge this earlier, but I'm not sure RS can be scum with bresh. So idk about rs
Damdred
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January 27 2015 02:45 GMT
#2032
I'm not sure about anyone right now. Could be wrong about everything honestly
Damdred
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January 27 2015 04:18 GMT
#2111
I don't get why it would be directly my fault feript, I've played the same way all game and you've called me town several times. If anything spite lynching me isn't the answer.
Damdred
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January 27 2015 15:04 GMT
#2266
##Unvote

I've got to think about this and reread some things, I'm confused why Geript is voting breshke when earlier he said he thought he was town? Did I miss something or skim over something?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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January 27 2015 15:45 GMT
#2268
##Vote Breshke

Yea reread everything and I don't see anything wrong with a breshke lynch meh. If anyones here i'll interact
Damdred
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January 27 2015 15:51 GMT
#2269
Like i'm really breaking all of my lylo and mylo rules by playing this shitty, and i'm halfway thinking we lost the game with the general inactivity and what not.

##Unvote

I'd rather talk this out in case mafia hammers a towny
Damdred
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January 27 2015 15:58 GMT
#2271
Ok so, i'm going to townread Shining into forever at this point. Hes in the middle of a blizzard so i'm not sure if hes going to post but I really like some of his posts and his reaction to getting scum read n1 for an accident really looked towny, and him begging GB basically to look in his filter and comment on his shit is something a towny would do. Townys WANT to be noticed and be town, shining wanted this to, no matter how inactive hes been I think hes town. He has towny traits when hes here and able to be active so I will not vote him at all today, at all. That's taking meta aside when his posts read to me like they did when I coach'd him.


That leaves me between DP, Geript, Breshke and RSoultin.

Rsoultin and Breshke cannot be scum together I think because of the chainsaw defending each other and breshke saying rs is 100% town even though he was almost the autolynch today. It doesn't make sense to align yourself with your partner (if breshke is scum) if breshke IS town then could just be a bad read.

RS has a huge filter which isn't inherently towny but it is what it is

Geript has been a bit weird but has pulled votes off two town mislynches, even though my initial reaction is that its towny it could be a scum looking to gain favor. And this weird Lets lynch shining to suddenly lynching breshke and nothing much has changed makes me feel a bit weirded out at this moment.

DP is 99.99999% town i'm pretty sure, but i'm most paranoid about a geript and DP scum team that will auto win the rest of the game. But dp has looked realy towny and has been pretty consistant up to this point.


Damdred
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January 27 2015 16:02 GMT
#2272
So

Geript, Breshke and RSoultin...

Geript/ RS
Geript/ Breshke
Breshke/Geript- This is the least likely pairing I think as geript would of just went into mylo.

I hate looking at geript because of a shit storm that would break out again, but I have to cover my bases and think everything out. And him wanting to kill shining and then sheeping onto Breshke bothers me still a bit, gotta think all of this through.
Damdred
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January 27 2015 16:06 GMT
#2273
i'm getting lunch and am going to think this through a bit more, shiningn I would unvote breshke and you can just sheep me going into the lynch. Im going to figure this out those are the three likeliest mafias.
Damdred
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January 27 2015 17:42 GMT
#2276
We had at least three afk townies on LM that day though, which doesn't help or hinder the theory.

Shining was no where to be see neither was JarJar and you didn't want to move so maybe its not such a stretch to think that the lynch would never go through.
Damdred
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January 27 2015 18:04 GMT
#2281
This is mylo gotta think and talk everything out.

Firstly if I'm scum and bresh is town as you think I wouldn't be doing this breshke would of been hammered with my vote.

Secondly if we assume that bresh is town don't matter what wagons happen. Which I'm not sold on bresh being town here either.
Damdred
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January 27 2015 18:10 GMT
#2282
Possibility exists where scum geript pulls votes off town lm to partner scum breshke for town cred not thinking people will be active. Hell I started the votes on bresh. Maybe this is for cred and bussing bresh now hrm
Damdred
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January 27 2015 18:53 GMT
#2287
I'm not making cases on my town reads sadly. You aren't thinking about it though rso if your town keep being blind
Damdred
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January 27 2015 19:12 GMT
#2289
Obvious geript is obvious.

Sadly I don't think people want to be constructive and talk through anything. RS just wants me as scum meh.

##vote breshkr
Damdred
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January 27 2015 19:31 GMT
#2294
No lynching is dumb for the record and always will be my opinion in this type of setup with so many question marks
Damdred
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January 27 2015 19:44 GMT
#2296
No clue honestly at this point maybe geript maybe RS who can say nobody was interested with talking to me seriously before deadline so I cba to try now. You and RS just content to tunnel on me
Damdred
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January 27 2015 19:58 GMT
#2299
I have considered I posted as much and invoted you at least twice this phase. And got called scim by RS for it so its whatever.
here's a tip about why nl is generally bad. Scum can no shoot most of the time and with our activity not much changes
Damdred
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January 27 2015 20:00 GMT
#2300
And scum won't shoot a question mark....
Damdred
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January 27 2015 20:10 GMT
#2305
That's possible I guess
Damdred
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January 27 2015 20:26 GMT
#2309
I could live with lynching RS first possibly
Damdred
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January 27 2015 21:28 GMT
#2323
You hard buried RS. You said this guy is 100% town, then chainsaw defended anyone who came near her.

Its mylo I stated some scenerios doesn't mean reads flip on nothing. Honestly geript could be scum bbut he's doing things not trying to survive
Damdred
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January 27 2015 21:35 GMT
#2325
You don't see the issue with hard alligning like this in mylo? I think shining is town but I at least let people talk about otherwise without blocking all fiscussion
Damdred
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January 27 2015 21:41 GMT
#2330
It was a thought, anytime the word rs mafia showed up in thread here comes bresh with a chaimsaw
Damdred
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January 27 2015 21:42 GMT
#2332
Though if the scum team is dp and geript I dont mind losing to that
Damdred
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January 27 2015 21:45 GMT
#2333
I kinda want us to switch to rsoultin though
Damdred
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January 27 2015 21:48 GMT
#2336
Bresh has a point, like rsoul started the buddying before bresh did. Look at the vote RS hard defended the switch a town would see that and defend that person till end game
Damdred
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January 27 2015 21:50 GMT
#2339
##unvote
##vote raoultin
Damdred
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January 27 2015 21:51 GMT
#2341
Even when we switched to breshke yesterday, lm had to be mislynched then and if bresh is town the resistance to moving made him seem like scum.
Damdred
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January 27 2015 21:54 GMT
#2349
Cause I'm not scum! Geeipt could be but if he is ill say good game to him
Damdred
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January 27 2015 21:57 GMT
#2357
Idk what to do geript swapped really easy
Damdred
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January 27 2015 21:59 GMT
#2369
Didn't you just say that bresh was better?
Damdred
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January 27 2015 22:00 GMT
#2375
##unvote
##vote geript
Damdred
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January 27 2015 22:07 GMT
#2400
I ended up killing cooltlname and it really screwed me up this game. Like I just quit caring cause it sucked so bad he PMs me and basically tells me his alignment and it just fucked me up
Damdred
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January 27 2015 22:08 GMT
#2404
I had a feeling we were losing the game once lm dies gag, and I knew my heuristic was bad on do but it was getting attacked for the wrong reason and I got stubborn bah
Damdred
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January 27 2015 22:10 GMT
#2408
I'm sorry I stopped playing basically after the mod kill for awhile I won't make excuses but I sucked simply
Damdred
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January 27 2015 22:12 GMT
#2415
Like rs you were a bit to paranoid and the amount of hard defending made me go crazy and just lunch into yall
Damdred
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January 28 2015 02:11 GMT
#2492
That ws what caused me to play so horrible LS.

CoolTLname sent me a pm that basically out'd his alignment a bit. And I asked BH to replace me so that tlname could continue playing but BH mod killed him instead and it just put me in a funk
Damdred
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January 28 2015 03:28 GMT
#2499
Meh yea it just threw me way off and made me meh for whatever reaons
Damdred
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January 29 2015 05:45 GMT
#2527
Like I understand why I was wrong on dp, I felt a bit forced into considering or not considering him. And honestly with bresh and RS super tunneling on me for that time we couldn't of consolidated. I kept toying with a dp scum bit didn't make a ton of sense to me at the time.
Damdred
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January 29 2015 05:46 GMT
#2528
Also dp wasn't that obvious in game when everyone is tunneling
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