EPTOn January 25 2015 03:19 rsoultin wrote:
You mentioned this before. What does elo stand for?
You mentioned this before. What does elo stand for?
ELO is a rating system originally used in chess but adopted for a number of other games.
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ELO is a rating system originally used in chess but adopted for a number of other games. | ||
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rsoultin
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On January 25 2015 04:10 geript wrote: ELO is a rating system originally used in chess but adopted for a number of other games. Hrum, so just calling everyone bad again? Okay. -shrugs- I suppose, re: the CC. You've played more games as scum than I have. Everyone seems to have different opinions. I was just told last game, for instance, that scum tends to be very reluctant to claim roles. I'm sure it's situational, but it does leave an auto-lynch once the dumbassery is over, so I'd personally expect it more late than early game in general. | ||
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On January 25 2015 04:24 geript wrote: In semi-open games, you're right. Mafia tend to just accept a claim and kill it. Open setups are an exceptionally different beast though. Your reason for thinking Damdred's reads progression on you is scummy? Or any of his other flip-flop reads you mentioned, for that matter. | ||
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rsoultin
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On January 25 2015 04:27 geript wrote: Also, if I were calling you bad, then I'd just call you bad. I'm really surprised that you're on TL and don't understand what elo hell is. Like the people around you being bad might have part of it. In my experience it's more an issue of people not listening, doing dumb shit, randomly because caught out by the opponents stupidly doing things they shouldn't that of course end up working well for them, etc. Lol, I'm not a gamer, geript. Far from. I like games like...poker, catan, risk...so I don't really belong on this site except for the mafia. I like this game a lot. ^^ Regardless, thanks for explaining. I'd agree that games like this have too many townies not acting very townie, which makes it extra hard to find scum...especially if scum doesn't have to really even try. It's why I haven't been quick to jump on what can easily be newbie bad instead of scum most of this game. | ||
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On January 25 2015 04:27 rsoultin wrote: Your reason for thinking Damdred's reads progression on you is scummy? Or any of his other flip-flop reads you mentioned, for that matter. His flip flop reads are questionable. The problem though is that he's literally using heuristics which he knows are false. How motivated and try hard I am is wildly different game to game. Additionally, as mafia I actually tend to be more try-hard. Like he just got out of a game (where he was mafia) which pointed out this fact. Now he's trying to argue that I'm disconnected and therefore mafia. It's just blatantly false that I'm disconnected and that being disconnected makes me mafia. It's true that he tends to not read me well (when he's town); but as mafia he tends to ignore me (or call me town and ignore me). Which is one of the things that bugged me for much of the early game. Plus, he's not even thinking, "Hey I usually read this guy wrong. I'm reading his as mafia..." | ||
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On January 25 2015 03:57 Damdred wrote: Yes, I think I read geript more town when hes mafia then when hes town -_- Geript why you no read my posts? | ||
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At others you have this idgaf and seemily don't read things that happened in other parts of the thread. This is not typical of any type of your gameplay. | ||
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rsoultin
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On January 25 2015 04:59 geript wrote: Like I'm being honest in that it would in no way surprise me that mafia was just afk. Because in some regards the game kinda feels like that and it's LM/Shining or similar. But at this point, everyone who scumreads me or even suggests such bullshit will be up for a lynch because that's literally preposterous. geript, I don't know why you insist that it's impossible that anyone could think you are scum. Because I <I>literally</I> have entertained that possibility off-and-on throughout the game. I know I'm a newbie. I know I barely know you and can't meta-read you at all. But I also know I'm not a complete moron, so if there's something in your play that has me questioning you, then no, it is not preposterous for anyone to scumread you. Where do you get this highly elevated view of your play? I mean, this is a serious question. You said earlier in this game no one can read you right, yet now you're on about how anyone possibly even suggesting you're scum must be scum because it's impossible for anyone to think so? | ||
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On January 25 2015 05:26 geript wrote: People don't read me right because they don't bother to think in my experience. It doesn't really require meta. Like you don't even ask, "what's he doing? Is he doing mafia things?" because that's really not how you read me. You look at what I'm thinking about. As mafia, my thoughts never really match; like there's a huge jump and points I have don't flow into each other in a coherent way. Thoughts (and thought process) won't always make sense or seem logical, but there's a clear thought that leads into another thought and so on. Wheels churn and one thing gets me interested in another thing that seems random but it's connected in a very natural way. That's the thing that I can't ever fake as mafia. -squints at- so...as mafia your thoughts don't match or...as town your thoughts may seem random, but they do connect without being in your head I'm not sure how anyone could tell the difference between not matching and seemingly random? o.0 well, regardless, I guess you've explained why you find his reads scummy, though i'm not sure how that helps the rest of us, lol. at least it doesn't really help me. I don't know how damdred normally treats you in a game when he's mafia. | ||
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If Geript is scum this game I will need to re-evaluate the way I play but I don't see it happening. Like, people are askling me to explain my town read on LM and I can do so whilst explain the way I read things period and perhaps it will help people with geript also. When I am reading the thread sometimes posts will pop up that are really unlikely to come from scum because the reasoning being used only really makes sense if that person is town. Case in point: On January 24 2015 19:42 LoneMeow wrote: I'm also really kind of worried about DarthPunk. I know I am town and he's distancing himself from the lynch, it just smells scummy especially when the reasons are so weak. But every time I go check on him I can't pin down anything concrete that would give me a real scum read other than this. This post here looks really townie to me because it is an open window to a townie mindset. It shows healthy paranoia and the rationale is coming from a place that only makes sense from a Town!LM perspective. Then he looks at my filter and decides there is no reason to call me scum. He is collecting and analyzing information and changing his position based on that. I like this post so much that as soon as I read it I again decided I didn't want to lynch him. As for geript, there are countless posts in his filter that make me think he is town, further, I don;tn think scum could or would switch their style up like that mid game from an easier to fake style of posting. ( large constructed posts) to a harder to fake style (conversational ITT) | ||
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On January 25 2015 05:26 geript wrote: People don't read me right because they don't bother to think in my experience. It doesn't really require meta. Like you don't even ask, "what's he doing? Is he doing mafia things?" because that's really not how you read me. You look at what I'm thinking about. As mafia, my thoughts never really match; like there's a huge jump and points I have don't flow into each other in a coherent way. Thoughts (and thought process) won't always make sense or seem logical, but there's a clear thought that leads into another thought and so on. Wheels churn and one thing gets me interested in another thing that seems random but it's connected in a very natural way. That's the thing that I can't ever fake as mafia. I agree with this somewhat. | ||
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On January 24 2015 17:20 geript wrote: Definitely doesn't feel as good in hindsight. I'll need to go back and look at all my reasons for reading Breschke as town though. I know part of it was newb reasoning. How did you go with this? | ||
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