EPTOn January 08 2015 13:43 IAmRobik wrote:
it's gonna look so bad if super flips town and then i don't get night killed
it's gonna look so bad if super flips town and then i don't get night killed
We can share in looking bad then. It'll be fun.
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On January 08 2015 20:07 DarthPunk wrote: What do people think about robik at the moment? Town. On January 08 2015 20:21 marvellosity wrote: = I'll go read Lazer's filter myself and line it up with what you said Did you do this yet and if so what did you find? On January 08 2015 20:26 Vivax wrote: Okay boss. Well currently I'm kinda clueless as I didn't expect super to flip scum and SL being on his wagon, I think I'll just sheep my strongest townread at this point: Artanis. So my vote in future days will just go wherever Artanis vote is. I don't want to cause more damage to this game. My life for aiur. Well, this is awkward. On January 08 2015 21:04 Lazermonkey wrote: If ritoky is scum then I was chosing between two scum so how does my indecision point in any direction anyway? Its more and more obvious to me that you are at the very least tunnely town, could very well be scum. You keep on tunneling me, attacking me for reasons that don't make sense. I can actually get some of the suspicion that I have on me, but yours feels very forced. Its like you are really trying to make my actions fit a scum agenda instead of actually trying to figure out my alignment. I will read into you more when I get home and try to figure you out. For now, I will not be able to much at all. Why is this post longer than one sentence? On January 08 2015 22:50 GlowingBear wrote: Marv is town, Vivax. I've just realised that. He isn't dying tonight because mafia wants to WIFOM the shit out of him. They want you to exactly think that he is scum because he is still alive. That's why he won't die tonight, and DP will What changed that made you townread Marv all of a sudden? Robik can you please stop defending yourself from Vivax, it's really boring to read. Damdred's case on LM is pretty solid. Could sheep after ritoky/10 On January 09 2015 02:45 IAmRobik wrote: maybe artanis is scum who had a try-hard d1. His filter isn't as long or great as I thought it was...granted i didn't read it and i'm just selectively remembering things ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ykBx4Fb.gif) | ||
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On January 09 2015 02:49 Damdred wrote: I think Lazer is scum, here is my case repeated on him Day 1 he is guilty of the same things he goes hard after chy because of thread sentiment. He moves his target around using thread sentimen He misrepresents things constantly in the thread and back tracks constantly D2 he hard defends a push to lynch Superbia (known mafia now) He states d3 that he thinks ritoky is the cop and won't lycn an un cc'd cop but his vote is on him anyway He states during the day that Super looks bad but shouldn't be the lynch. Right before he leaves he parks his vote on Superbia, with his main scum read whos been vocal about wanting a super bia lynch. I think his vote looks more like a bus and hes mafia to me. | ||
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On January 09 2015 07:16 Vivax wrote: I don't think I've ever witnessed marv being so disengaged from important stuff, and marv not trying to force his opinion into you with a pneumatic hammer of words, so yes I think he's mafia. For Artanis atm I'm going with no but I have no clue why he thinks you're town. Wasn't I your top town just a bit ago? I already read Robik as town then but yet your opinion on me seems to have changed. Why? | ||
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On January 09 2015 07:00 KelsierSC wrote: Artanis can you make a legacy post Lynch Ritoky tomorrow Lynch between Vivax and Lazermonkey the next day If you lynched Lazer and he didn't flip scum lynch Damdred, if that didn't happen lynch Palmar at this point unless he bleeds town. Never lynch Robik/Chez/DP/SL/Marv/Kelsier unless you have a really really good reason. Robik has been trying to figure the game out strongly. Chezinu is town because Chyz was town for making a case then going MIA. DP is town because Dr.H was obvtown with his rants on Chyz. SL is town because of shenannies with the cop. Scum would never claim cop in an open setup unless they really had to. Marv is town because 27 page filter and he's been doing stuff. Kelsier is town because he's been figuring stuff out all game and making cases. | ||
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On January 09 2015 08:55 Vivax wrote: Cause you posted "Robik is town" after I decided to sheep you since you were so townie for the eulogy stuff on a scummer and I Was posting all the arguments against him, so I basically reverted my opinion on sheeping you in the mood of the moment since I thought you were #teamRobik and Robik was mafia. I still don't think you're scum but I won't sheep you. Don't mind that I said I wanted to kill your homeworld with fire. What? JAT was town and that was what most of the post was about. The push on Superbia came in a post after that. I don't understand the rest of your post either. Also, despite my Protoss avatar and Protoss hero name, I play Zerg because Protoss is too ezmode (also BW master race). On January 09 2015 08:59 Vivax wrote: And if you want to decide between LM and me do it now cause your Eulogy post seemed soconfident I thought you were the cop at the time (since JAT had multiple suspects but somehow only Super came into question for that post, and that post basically had zero arguments except that super was ONE of the guys JAT wanted to lynch),so now that you put me back into the mindset of rethinking you it could have been an elaborate bus on second thought THE EULOGY POST WAS BASICALLY A JOKE THE REASONS FOR LYNCHING SUPERBIA CAME LATER I think both you and LM have been doing a lot of scummy shit. You in just about every thought diverging from myself (like the SL/marv/robik list wtf) and everyone else I deem town and LM for defending Superbia and defending Ritoky then still voting him and trying to move people off the Superbia lynch then eventually hopping on anyway. Both of you look p. awful. On January 09 2015 09:08 Vivax wrote: Artanis I wanta reply to this that isn't a gif before the flip. [img]http://i.imgur.com/HOoiMiu.gif/img] First: You ignore all the shit I said about Robik. Now if Robik is really the cop I don't really know what makes you confident about it, what makes you ignore all the stuff I've posted about why I think he isn't 1. Robik is clearly town. 2. Robik is unlikely to fakeclaim in this situation. 3. If Robik were scum and would fakeclaim he would make it look better than a check on a dead townie and a check on a universal townread. 4. Ritoky is as scummy as a Marv with a 3 page filter on D3. Second: you put me into the next lynch slot "between Lazer and me " and in my opinion Lazer is miles more scummy than me so I figured you'd have a much more crisp opinion on who is town and who is scum between us. It's like you only put me there cause everybody thinks I look like shit now cause I suspect what everybody thinks to be the real cop. Your reads are completely different from the rest of the town. There's a clear convergence between most of my townreads which leads me to believe that either someone's playing a really really good scumgame, or more likely, that everyone in that circle is town and scum is trying to break the circle. Your arguments have been poor this game for the most part (with an exception somewhere in D2). Basically you're not being the town!Vivax I expected you to be. Third: If Robik is the real cop scum knows it and if ritoky is scum he's the only guy who's going to speak up against him and so far I didn't really see people speaking up against Robik being the cop iirc. Scum won't go against who they know is the real cop as it puts them under scrutiny. On January 09 2015 09:11 Vivax wrote: LIke if I'd be scum right now and Robik is really the cop I'd align with all the people who believe him, say lynch ritoky, and call it a night and stop posting, and not talk endlessly about why I think he isn't. I'm not that tryhard and ballsy as scum, I even shoot my teammates and then claim I'm a town vig who shot them before I hard defend them, that's how much i'm pussy as scum. You know, the problem with self-metaing like this is that it loses all value once you use it as an argument to defend yourself. Your entire game has revolved around going right in against thread sentiment, it'd be suspect to let go of it now. If you don't reply I will strike you with my full wrath the next day. I'd almost backspace everything here just to see it happen. On January 09 2015 09:15 Vivax wrote: Now back to Terran icon cause zerg sucks and doesn't need mechanic skillz. But still more than Protoss cheesy scum. I will fight you. | ||
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Marv I remember that you said you'd look into Lazer after Damdred's case. Did you ever actually do that? | ||
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On January 09 2015 10:14 Vivax wrote: Also Artanis differentiation between me and LM in terms of scumminess is very wishywashy, I'd figure he'd want to get a clearer picture instead of leaving it at that "both of you have done scummy shit etc.". But when he considers LM he doesn't consider that LM still hopped on super after all the defense which is way more indiciative of him being scum than me. I at least thought a thing and then pulled it through and didn't correct it in th fear that being on the wrong wagon would make me look bad. Why doesn't this reasoning appear in artanis argumentation. You're more experienced as scum and you know how bad it can look to switch back later on. The entire game you've been consistently wrong. It'd be weird for the character you're playing to suddenly swap. LM was already riding the "but I'll vote Superbia if I have to" thing for a while whereas you didn't leave yourself any room to do so. | ||
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On January 09 2015 10:38 DarthPunk wrote: Well that is fucking retarded as fuck, Let me get this straight. Cop!Robik sees a cop claim, Cop!Robik counter claims in order to lynch the fake cop for sure. Cop!Robik then says he doesn;t want to Lynch into the cop claims because he wants to get more checks off. THEN WHAT WAS THE FUCKING POINT IN COUNTERCLAIMING THE INITIAL CLAIM???!?!? The whole point in counterclaiming is to lynch one of the claims. That makes no sense to me at all. Am I missing something? This is actually a good point. I really hope I'm not in bizarro land where Vivax is actually right and Robik is somehow, someway scum. | ||
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On January 09 2015 10:59 Vivax wrote: Oh and you're implying I wouldn't leave myself any room for switching to superbia cause I'm more experienced since it would look bad if I switched to superbia since I would think it would look bad if I did so. Well, just no. Anyone who leads a lynch on scum looks like town hero unless he's the only possible scum left by PoE, and anyone who defends scum will be subject to scrutiny. Point in case: Leads. You were never going to lead a lynch on Superbia. All this discussion however shows one thing: You inherently want to not lynch LM but want to lynch me since you leave the option open that LM is town for his attitude on superbia and don't display it when you say "then we lynch one of LM or Vivax". Now instead you argue in favour of LM who has been misrepresenting things on multiple occcasions (especially about me) before being pointed to the parts that showed that he read something incorrectly. So basically I take from all of this that your attitude towawrds superbia and me isn't equal like you suggested, but instead you see me as more likely scum but didn't explicitly say so, which makes you suspicious. If you say so. | ||
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On January 09 2015 11:01 Vivax wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAH But when I say that Robik is full of shit in what he's saying cause he prefers to get more (possibly unreliable) checks rather than lynching obvious scum you just keep your ears shut and add me to the possible scum? I stopped listening to you on Robik for quite some time because Robik was pretty much confirmed town in my eyes so your posts were boring. I still think he's very likely to be town. | ||
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On January 09 2015 11:05 Vivax wrote: So does this mean you agree with me? You say LM kept an option open to switch to super, and I didn't cause I figured it would look bad, which means you scumread me more than him but didn't say it openly? No, I'm saying both actions easily fit within the scum narrative for both of you. | ||
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On January 09 2015 11:10 Vivax wrote: Well if you think I'm scum you should listen to me cause there might be valuable hints in what I say. The point is: I'm not fucking scum. I even talk so much you get bored so I have no idea how you can think I'm scum. I pointed out what's wrong with Robik since EoD2, no matter what his excuse is. If he was busy modding a game but still wasn't busy enough to keep posting in the thread and looking a the posts then something was odd. I want to see Robik answer DP's points. I still find it almost impossible to believe that Robik played this kind of D3 as scum. It's one of two things in your filter that give me pause; filter length and your D2 play where I felt you picked up the slack. I need to filter dive you properly but I'm not doing that at 3:15am. On January 09 2015 11:12 DarthPunk wrote: All we should be discussing right now is which claim to lynch. Ritoky. The way he took Robik's "rescind" seriously is so dumb there is no way he believes it. | ||
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On January 09 2015 11:19 Vivax wrote: Why wouldn't he believe it? SL already fakeclaimed cop and he shat on him for that, he could have had all reason to assume that Robik's rescinding was just another retarded fakeclaim, only claimed in order to get ritoky lynched cause maybe Robik was so super confident. It's the way he said it. If he actually wanted to rescind he would've done it in a serious manner, not like this: On January 08 2015 07:12 IAmRobik wrote: Actually -- this is brilliant. I rescind my claim. Let's lynch vivax and then see what scum does  | ||
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