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Free townread for the first person to reply to this post. Unless you say something scummy of course | ||
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congrats jat - you're my best town read at the moment. It's a great honor so try not to mess up | ||
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On December 17 2014 05:30 LightningStrike wrote: Sorry my late entrance my mom told me that she was taking me to get a hair cut but we went to a couple stores and had lunch T_T I think the first post is just silly I would of expected that from sicklucker for meta reasons but not scib. Okay let's try to win this game plain and simple Anyone want to discuss with me? You seem to be implying that the silliness of my first post is scummy? If so, please explain why it is scummy. Or are you simply noting that it is silly? | ||
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Do you still think LS is scum? | ||
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I agree with Robik that Breshke looks like a very promising lynch. I'll post some of my thoughts on him after LS. SL is obviously very disconnected from the thread so he wouldn't be a bad lynch either. Still, I'd rather give him some time to get his act together. @marv Are you still around? If you had to pick a lynch right now, who would it be? | ||
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On December 17 2014 11:33 Damdred wrote: I actually have a few good town reads right now my top town is a surprise. Town Leans: Palmar is my top town, he shows what seems genuine interest. He pressures people is involved in almost every topic has follow up on what he says. Today Palmar is that top town. VE is most likely town I think, I probably wouldn't listen to people wanting to lynch him today unless he did some really out there. Robik I wouldn't lynch today at this point I have a pretty strong town feeling from him. Would lynch today: Kush: Where did kush go? He said he was reading but never did anything since, not saying that kush can't be lazy as town but he generally has some thoughts. SL: I think the gameplay is decently different and leaves something to be desired from his normal game play. I'm not sure about Bresh yet, and even though JAT is in the game I can not really remember much of what he has done so that worries me. And sciberbia making a town case and so many hard defending ls has me worried. @damdred Can you explain what you've seen from VE that makes you think he is town? His only reads so far seem to be slight town on marv and mafia on Palmar which you seem to strongly disagree with. Also, can you explain what you mean in the last sentence of that quote where something is worrying you? | ||
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On December 17 2014 11:48 Damdred wrote: LS has a ton of people hard defending him based on meta right out of the gate, and that concerns me honestly. Concerns you because you think LS is scum or you think the people defending him are scum? or both? For the record, I can only recall myself and Bereshke defending him. And I guess marv said the case was "icky" | ||
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On December 17 2014 05:52 Breshke wrote: I have never played with him but i think coag is town for how little he cares + Show Spoiler [2] + On December 17 2014 05:55 Breshke wrote: I see. Why do you think robik is reading him town then? + Show Spoiler [3] + On December 17 2014 07:21 Breshke wrote: Is this missing a comma because it reads like you are agreeing with me? A large majority of his posts a songs. He is being townread by robik who is one of the people leading the thread at the moment. What he is doing, while in theme, is spamming up the thread without actually contributing anything. Without contributing anything he has nothing to make himself look bad later. As town he would actually be posting words to help us find mafia. @Breshke Can you explain this sequence of events for me? 1) Breshke has a town read on coag for not caring 2) Palmar explains to Breshke that coag never cares as either alignment 3) 1.5 hours later, breshke is pushing to lynch coag on the basis that coag doesn't care to help us find mafia Doesn't compute. | ||
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On December 17 2014 12:34 Breshke wrote: It was early i was fine with him not caring because there wasn't much to go off. Then i specifically asked him to give reads and he basically refused to. If he refuses to give reads I will assume he has zero. Yes he might play like this often but right now i think it is likely he is mafia because as town he has no reason to withhold reads. Town needs to find and kill mafia to win whereas mafia can just survive. Do you think he is town scrib? I'm slightly leaning town on him only because he was the first to mention headbanging. Of course he could have read it from the OP but Coag does not strike me as the kind of guy to thoroughly read OP's. I think it is foolish to try to determine Coag's alignment from his lack of reads. Palmar said Coag does not care about winning the game as either alignment. It is safe to assume Palmar is not lying about this. If Coag does not care about winning the game as either alignment, why would not having reads make him mafia? Normal scumtells only apply to players that are trying to win the game. It's nigh on impossible to read players who aren't playing to win the game, which is Palmar and JAT suggested Coag would be a good vigi shot. He's almost impossible to read and useless if he is town anyway. What puzzles me is your assumption that a town coag would be actively trying to catch mafia, in the face of players who have played with him many times before telling you otherwise. You said yourself you've never played with him before. | ||
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On December 17 2014 12:58 VisceraEyes wrote: Yo I'm never EVER lynching Scib this game. Just sayin. <3 What do you think of Breshke and SL? | ||
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I find Damdred a bit suspicious because he has avoided substantiating reads. + Show Spoiler [read on VE] + On December 17 2014 11:48 Damdred wrote: I don't have to agree with all of someones reads to think that they are town overall or towny at the moment. VEis putting in effort which granted he can do as mafia but I can see where hes coming from and where hes going with what hes saying. Even though we come to different conclusions I can at least understand what hes doing. Kinda wishy/washy and unsubstantiated for a supposedly strong town read. Says you are putting in effort [granted you can do that as mafia]. And he "understands what you're doing". Just very vague. Like, by this point I have several specific things I could point to to justify my top couple town reads. + Show Spoiler [read on LS] + On December 17 2014 12:01 Damdred wrote: I am not sold either way. Someone shouldn't be judged obviously based solely on meta reasons. For example hen he was scum in student mafia it looked really really close to his town game and it was only a couple things that gave him away. So meta wise he is easy to copy. He seems to dismiss both Palmar's case and my post as inconclusive because they are based on meta reasons. But... they weren't at all based on meta reasons. In fact, neither Palmar nor I have even played with LS before. + Show Spoiler [Palmar] + On December 17 2014 05:59 Palmar wrote: Also, votes on LS people, bro is 84% mafia. Evidence 1 Inherent guilt. He's like the 4th person to post in the thread and apologizes for it. Evidence 2 If it wasn't scummy then what the hell is he trying to say? What does silly mean? What has it got to do with the game at all, and why bring it up as expected or not expected behavior if it isn't alignment indicative. Evidence 3 Highly aware of own meta, and uses it instantly to defend himself against what are basically shit accusations. Evidence 4 When confronted with what is basically a troll accusation, he immediately goes for the defense again. Further, he does not entertain the possibility that me or anyone else pushing him might be mafia, just straight up "look, I'm not mafia". Soooo.... we good? Kill LS? + Show Spoiler [me] + On December 17 2014 11:22 sciberbia wrote: I think LightningStrike is likely town for two reasons. Actually three but I'm omitting one.
I get the feeling he is scum and having trouble coming up with good, specific reasons to justify his stated reads. VE, were you getting the same feeling or do you disagree? @Damdred If you feel like VE is a solid read, can you point to something specific in his filter that you think he would not post as scum? | ||
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On December 17 2014 11:52 sicklucker wrote: Like my meta doesint tell me Ls is town yet still. I should read him better then most, I have a few reads that im waiting on too early. On December 17 2014 11:58 sicklucker wrote: Altho I do like sciberbia post ya all right ill town read him now. I was hesitant because of how he made this agenda to read me from my first post and expecting me to do some over the top shit to meta read me. He liked my reasoning why I wont always do that and it was probably just a coincidence so im cool with him. If ls is hesitant to vote anyone thats how you know hes mafia. On December 17 2014 12:02 sicklucker wrote: sciberbia town, palmer town, ls, town Its really early but not liking the other early posting vets like robik. They seem like sharks circling the newer players who have like 2 posts. Also coming back into the thread with only one scumread and that being on Robik would be a pretty brazen mafia move. What do you think Robik? | ||
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On December 17 2014 13:58 Damdred wrote: This next part is a lie, I say that I hate people hard defending LS based on meta, his meta was brought up by himself (which i really dislike) and bresh talked about it. I think LS has a scum tell that i'd rather not mention until later, but why lie about what I actually said. No where did I even talk about Palmars case you are making things up honestly. @Damdred My mistake. I was asking you specifically about Palmar's post and my post in a draft of my previous post, but must have ended up deleting it. Still though, Palmar made some points which were not related to meta. I made some points which were not related to meta. Did you not find any of those points convincing either? Or even worth commenting on in relation to Lightning's alignment? I agree with VE that Damdred looks a bit better for his response. | ||
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On December 17 2014 14:18 Damdred wrote: Then comes out of no where just two posts later to give one liners @damdred Well you missed the quote in the middle where he explains why he switches his mind on LS and presumably why he townreads me. On December 17 2014 11:58 sicklucker wrote: Altho I do like sciberbia post ya all right ill town read him now. I was hesitant because of how he made this agenda to read me from my first post and expecting me to do some over the top shit to meta read me. He liked my reasoning why I wont always do that and it was probably just a coincidence so im cool with him. If ls is hesitant to vote anyone thats how you know hes mafia. So his story kinda checks out right? He was nullish on LS, read my post on why I think LS is town and liked it, so as a result he has townreads on both myself and LS. The really concerning thing about sicklucker, to use your words, is that he is not "pushing the thread" or "pressuring people", which I assume is an established part of his town meta, right? | ||
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On December 17 2014 09:09 27ninjabunnies wrote: Scum Breshke- Though, there is one post that I really like that might actually move him to null for me @bunnies What was the post from Breshke that you really liked? | ||
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What specifically did you like about the first two posts? I agree regarding inconsistencies. What do you make of the following: (1) Implies useless =/= scummy and therefore we should not lynch kush + Show Spoiler + On December 17 2014 12:14 Breshke wrote: Do you think kush is useless town or useless mafia? Do you think you should be lynching people that are scummy or that are useless? (2) says kush is useful as town but not as mafia, which would seem to imply that we should lynch kush + Show Spoiler + On December 17 2014 12:18 Breshke wrote: I know the games you were refering to with kush SL and there is actually a difference in his play in the town game he actually gave some content whereas the scum gave he gave 0. To say he was useless both games would be wrong. Also (1) seems to be inconsistent with his original stance on Coag where Coag's uselessness implies scumminess | ||
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On December 17 2014 15:29 27ninjabunnies wrote: As for breshke's read, maybe he's played more games with Kush than I have? Idk. But if he's saying that kush is useless and should be lynched, wouldn't that imply Coag should be lynched too? But at first he's all for calling Coag town. To me it looks like he's saying that kush should not be lynched even though kush has been useless and kush is generally only useless as scum, which doesn't make any sense. Maybe I'm misreading. I'd be interested to hear other opinions on this. On December 17 2014 15:29 27ninjabunnies wrote: As for the other two posts, I'm not sure what I think. I don't really remember much from Kush's games I've played with him. But I do know that he does contribute sometimes as mafia, so I feel that kush not actually contributing depends on what he isn't contributing, not the fact that he isn't contributing. If that makes sense? So you think the mere fact that kush hasn't contributed is null? Do you find the actual content of his two posts scummy? | ||
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