Metal Mini Mafia!

On December 16 2014 11:00 Damdred wrote:
SL is gin to be policy lynched this game

On December 16 2014 18:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Friendly reminder to people like bunnies, Kush, Coag and LS. Think hard if you have the time and/or will to play this game. If you stay in and refuse to play I will lynch you as either alignment.

On December 16 2014 20:21 LightningStrike wrote:

I will play no worries.

On December 17 2014 01:31 Damdred wrote:
I hope I get SK would be a yummy christmas surprise

On December 17 2014 05:33 IAmRobik wrote:

On a scale of 1-10 how happy were you with your role?
What do you like playing?
Who is your favorite player and why is it me?

On December 17 2014 05:37 sciberbia wrote:

You seem to be implying that the silliness of my first post is scummy? If so, please explain why it is scummy. Or are you simply noting that it is silly?

On December 17 2014 05:39 IAmRobik wrote:
Coag, I don't care that you voted Plammmmar, but I care that you gave the reason "cause he claimed mafia".

Worst.
Reason.
Ever.

On December 17 2014 05:40 justanothertownie wrote:

Is 1 good or bad?

On December 17 2014 05:41 Breshke wrote:
Can we not ask LS about his role please

On December 17 2014 05:41 justanothertownie wrote:

Agreed!

On December 17 2014 05:44 IAmRobik wrote:
JAT,

How do you interpret LS's response to my question...why 1?

Don't read this spoiler before answering:
+ Show Spoiler +

On December 17 2014 05:45 Coagulation wrote:


I dont enjoy either. the real fun comes post game in the ban list.

On December 17 2014 05:46 Palmar wrote:
Now I want to lynch lightningstrike for suggesting I read more than the absolute bare minimum required.

On December 17 2014 05:47 IAmRobik wrote:

You're a guy and get haircuts with your mom? wtf? Are you even old enough to internet?

On December 17 2014 05:49 IAmRobik wrote:

please don't type posts like this. It implies that Plammmar is town and there's no evidence to that.

If LS is mafia, plammmmar 100% cleared

On December 17 2014 05:53 Palmar wrote:

That does not say anything about Coag's alignment. He basically doesn't care at all about any game he is in.

On the other hand, he should be a prime vigilante shot, because of exactly this.

On December 17 2014 06:02 IAmRobik wrote:
Palmar, was she being honest whens he said she didn't like her role and you think she did that as mafia?

+ Show Spoiler +

On December 17 2014 06:05 Palmar wrote:

Well, you're now lynch target #1.

Your time to shine bro, find a new #1.

On December 17 2014 06:10 Palmar wrote:

Everything you say sounds like you're mafia.

Why don't you figure out my alignment? Or Robik's? Or parrotman's JAT's?

On December 17 2014 06:10 Breshke wrote:


I don't like this its like you saaw Robik cleared coag for reffering to headbanging and you are trying to jump on some town cred

What about people who have already posted do you think any of them are scummy? I think SL is someone easy to scum read and think this is a cop out.

On December 17 2014 06:12 justanothertownie wrote:

wat wat wat
What kind of meta reasons would YOU have for reading me?

On December 17 2014 06:16 Palmar wrote:

What particularly was it that struck you as town that game, and you find similar in this game?

On December 17 2014 06:26 IAmRobik wrote:

"unlike LS (who hates her role) i got my most despised role"

WTF!??!!?

On December 17 2014 06:27 sicklucker wrote:


what im i bra?

On December 17 2014 06:27 IAmRobik wrote:

Get in your corner Sansa

On December 17 2014 06:30 justanothertownie wrote:

If he knows what you want to hear how is it alignment indicative?

On December 17 2014 06:34 justanothertownie wrote:

That doesn't really answer the question though, does it?

On December 17 2014 06:33 Palmar wrote:

I don't see how many games you have played has anything to do with things.

Claiming VT is generally bad, because mafia might believe you. Sure you can wifom the shit out of that, but if unprompted (like your claim was) mafia is more likely to take it at face value.

Which means, if you actually are VT, mafia now has 1 less options to shoot in town if they're trying to hit blues.

Your job as VT is to make mafia want to shoot you by playing well.

On December 17 2014 06:37 sicklucker wrote:


Oh im sorry ok ill get myself really confused and do some sort of non sensible play to prove everyone im confirmed town 1 hour into for like the second or third game inarow. Like its very unlikely the same thing happens again get real. Your standards are far too high

On December 17 2014 06:45 sicklucker wrote:
No Ls I know what your expecting its really bad. The reads you got from me before are genuine. If you go into this expecting it and telling me you expect it your going to be very disappointed. Its very hard to make lightning in a bottle and since I know you want it I can attempt to fake it as mafia

On December 17 2014 06:50 IAmRobik wrote:

holy overreaction batman

On December 17 2014 06:54 IAmRobik wrote:
WTF are you doing. Stop defending him

On December 17 2014 07:39 justanothertownie wrote:

Fun. You can't read coag this way.

On December 17 2014 08:17 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'm surprised to come into the thread, and not have received a vote on me by VE

Gonna go back and read everything that happened.

Anything important happen, or was it all troll?

On December 17 2014 11:48 Damdred wrote:


I don't have to agree with all of someones reads to think that they are town overall or towny at the moment. VEis putting in effort which granted he can do as mafia but I can see where hes coming from and where hes going with what hes saying. Even though we come to different conclusions I can at least understand what hes doing.

LS has a ton of people hard defending him based on meta right out of the gate, and that concerns me honestly.

On December 17 2014 11:58 sicklucker wrote:
Altho I do like sciberbia post ya all right ill town read him now. I was hesitant because of how he made this agenda to read me from my first post and expecting me to do some over the top shit to meta read me. He liked my reasoning why I wont always do that and it was probably just a coincidence so im cool with him. If ls is hesitant to vote anyone thats how you know hes mafia.

On December 17 2014 12:18 Breshke wrote:
I know the games you were refering to with kush SL and there is actually a difference in his play in the town game he actually gave some content whereas the scum gave he gave 0. To say he was useless both games would be wrong.

On December 17 2014 23:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Have you read Damdred's case on SL?

What do you think of it?

On December 17 2014 23:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:


So you basically have him as null rn?

On December 17 2014 23:52 Palmar wrote:
Why do you write like this LS?

On December 17 2014 23:51 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Do you always play based off of meta?

On December 17 2014 23:56 27ninjabunnies wrote:


I literally said all this in fewer words in a post a few posts back.

On December 18 2014 00:35 IAmRobik wrote:

It's not this at all. Every single time you type to Plammmmmar you are speaking as though you know he is town and that concerns me.

On December 18 2014 00:40 IAmRobik wrote:

At what point did you think he was town?

On December 18 2014 00:49 IAmRobik wrote:

if plammmar is mafia he knows you're town



Here you are unsure of his alignment



Did you "dive" into any of his past games to figure out his meta? Which games? How does his play here compare?



This is literally the first time you mention your TR on plammmar

On December 18 2014 00:56 Palmar wrote:
again, when asked specific points about meta, LS stops responding.

If you don't have any actual meta points just say so, this is getting real annoying.

On December 18 2014 01:05 Palmar wrote:
LS this is a terrible way to use meta just stop it. There are good meta reasons to think I'm town, but you clearly have no idea what they are.

Please, read this game. If you had randomly picked a towngame where I lurked would I be mafia? Or a mafia game where I was active?

On December 18 2014 01:24 Palmar wrote:
ok I got it bro...

Go find mafia then.

On December 18 2014 01:55 justanothertownie wrote:

Why? I have got you to tell me.

On December 17 2014 23:51 LightningStrike wrote:
Tbh I scum reading kush because in pregame he said would put more time in this game than the other games he was involved in and his first reply he said he liked the songs from Coag which came in like 5 hours after the game started and was reading the thread to catch up and he didn't give his reads or anything insightful in his next post claiming don't Pynch him and I waiting for a reason he's not scum at this point.

On December 18 2014 06:49 LightningStrike wrote:
Here are my reads if anyone is interested
Town:
Palmar: He leading discussions and asking good questions and trying to solve this game I really like him.
sicklucker: He almost always post weird when he's town and he hard defended me before anyone got a town read on me and would not benefit to defend a easy lynch that early.

27Ninjabunnies: He maybe a noob town but he been asking some questions and been defending himself when people questioned him on certain stuff.
VE: He asked some decent questions and been helping steer the discussion when he thought it was going bad and trying to solve this game.

JAT: He been actively discussing with everyone throughout the game and asking some good questions.

Damdred: He might a little bit off his game but I still giving a benefit of a doubt he also

Breshke: He had some decent questions and also hard defended me when people were scum reading me and wouldn't gain much to hard defend on a easy lynch and scum.

IAmRobik: He been actively discussing stuff asking questions but he called me a girl....

Sciberbia: I know I said his entrance post was silly because it gives to easy of a town cred for the start of the game but after that he been acting townie but I still not liking the free town cred he gave to Coag.

Null:
Coagulation: His posts with the songs been annoying me but I can't get a good read on him so idk where else to put him.

Marvellosity: I need to see more posts from him to really determine his alignment he made a bunch of 1 liners but he defended me vs Palmar asking Palmar if he had looked at a average game of mine but also told me to look at Titanic III for seeing Palmars active town meta which I will take a look at another time.

Scum:
Kushm4sta: Pregame he would be more active then his last game but he not being active he not contribute anything other than 3 1 liners, one of them telling us not to Pynch him. I need a reason why he isn't scum.

On December 18 2014 07:30 Palmar wrote:
Okay let's just lynch marv.

Get on the wagon guys.

##vote marvellosity

On December 18 2014 07:50 Palmar wrote:

I'm a cop, I checked him next night and came back in time from day 2 to tell you this.

On December 18 2014 08:03 27ninjabunnies wrote:


LOOOOOOOOL

Im more mad at the noob town than the gender mess up

On December 18 2014 08:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Maybe because I am a girl?

On December 18 2014 11:43 Breshke wrote:
Can someone explain this wagon on marv a bit more i dont get it. He has done nothing this game but basically call me scum but there is others who have also done nothing. Is it expected that a town marv wouldn't play like this but a town kush would? Like i honestly don't know I have never played with marv before.

I once again like NB's logic but I think you also have to look at it from the perspective that if marv is town, mafia would be hesitant to jump on the wagon as well because other than bunnies i havn't seen any actual logic on why we should vote marv.

This being said some other reads from him would be nice.

On December 19 2014 01:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Also, Scib, did I not vote Kush? I thought I did?

On other points, did marv really claim scum? Lol
I didn't see where he did but that would be awesome!

And I'm currently posting from the comforts of my phone and bed. Mmmmm

On December 19 2014 01:56 LightningStrike wrote:

You didn't vote yet sweetie :O

On December 19 2014 02:57 27ninjabunnies wrote:


I like action and talking.

If marv flips scum, I'm lynching greenie and sicklucker
If he flips town, I'm lynching Palmer.

That'll be fun trying to push d2

On December 19 2014 03:45 Damdred wrote:


Why you do this thing and not let LS respond to me!

On December 19 2014 04:04 Damdred wrote:


So you would take all of us off marv to get on kush? What if kush is town are you that sure hes scum?

On December 19 2014 04:17 Coagulation wrote:
setting up mislynches while soft defending the claimed scum.

classy

On December 19 2014 07:39 Palmar wrote:
You claiming that the first vote on marv has any kind of a significance is actually kinda scummy.

The reason being that as it wasn't a vote to lynch. Votes designed to motivate people to post can be thrown out by literally anyone, and it is dead easy to do that to a scum mate. It isn't even a "bus", because the "unvote to let him prove himself" proves that the vote wasn't a vote to kill, which means it's irrelevant.

Like you have a few points that look like you wanted to kill marv early, but the fact that you think the vote means anything, actually looks like you yourself think your case is not all that solid.

On December 19 2014 20:31 sciberbia wrote:
Palmar stop ignoring me - I know you're there >_>

On December 19 2014 23:11 sciberbia wrote:

@LS
Besides kush, who would you consider voting for tomorrow?

On December 20 2014 04:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Will Not Lynch
1. VisceraEyes
2. Palmar
4. IAmRobik
5. Justanothertownie
7. Sciberbia
8. 27NinjaBunnies
10. Sicklucker

Will Lynch With Fire
6. Damdred
9. Kushm4sta
11. Breshke
12. Coagulation
13. LightningStrike

I'd say I'm the most comfortable with a Kush lynch, but Damdred pulls in a close second followed by Coag for me. Anyone on my Will Not Lynch list I'm currently reading as town, and everyone else I'm currently not reading as town OR I'm currently reading as not town.

On December 20 2014 05:06 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I SHOT BRESHKE.

GET FUCKIN REKT

On December 20 2014 05:06 Damdred wrote:
Vig come and claim

I'm the Vet, i was not shot, theres a serial killer that we have to find as well

On December 20 2014 05:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Vote: kushm4sta

No Palmar, you promised. I sheeped you onto marv, now you return the favor.

On December 20 2014 05:20 VisceraEyes wrote:

I'm not using anyone's case, I'm lynching him because I think he's mafia. I don't care who started the case, I'm in here pushing him not you.

On December 20 2014 05:21 LightningStrike wrote:

I pushing him too now based on my case alone
##Vote: kushm4sta

On December 20 2014 08:04 kushm4sta wrote:
sorry i didn't include a why:
just by virtue of lack of involvement

hm why do people want to lynch coag over me?

On December 17 2014 23:51 LightningStrike wrote:
Tbh I scum reading kush because in pregame he said would put more time in this game than the other games he was involved in and his first reply he said he liked the songs from Coag which came in like 5 hours after the game started and was reading the thread to catch up and he didn't give his reads or anything insightful in his next post claiming don't Pynch him and I waiting for a reason he's not scum at this point.

On December 20 2014 09:56 27ninjabunnies wrote:
1. I wish I had another vigi shot.
2. My Palmer theory of him being SK is looking less likely now since he is SUPER townsiding. (of course he doesn't know who mafia is, but I like this Palmer)
3. Palmer's first post on this page s basically what I sad two pages ago lol
4. I just got off of work and am pissed. Someone cheer me up.....
Or I'll lynch you

On December 20 2014 13:29 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So my neighbors are jammin out to indie music.

As annoying as it is, they have great music tastes!

On another note:

Damdred, can you point out which posts you find townie?

LS, who are your other scum reads outside of damdred

On December 20 2014 14:00 Damdred wrote:


I would like you to talk about the bolded some I looked through his filter to see if it was true and i missed it





Here are his questions to you and about you... heres your response



and here is his...town case



I really do not see much pressure and honestly the town read on you is interesting, its good actually but it is just a bit weird to me. He never really took much time to look for your alignment and tried to pressure you...

On December 21 2014 09:58 sciberbia wrote:
Hey LightningStrike.
What do you think of the contributions from kush, damdred, and coag today? Has it affected your reads on them?

What do you think of my logic for why we should lynch Coag today? I do think VE could be scum, but if we lynch him and he turns out to be town we're in big trouble. You're willing to take that risk?

On December 21 2014 11:52 sicklucker wrote:
Er ve is totally town and coag and kush are actually trying which is amazing. That kind of makes me want to stick on dandred. I think Ls is the third party. Him doing that lame vt claim at the start is something ive done to get town cred all game and he might have copied it. Hes putting minimal effort even for himself. But we should ignore that for now and find mafia to reduce kp.

On December 21 2014 12:17 kushm4sta wrote:


LS, why would you only put effort as town?

On December 21 2014 23:41 sciberbia wrote:


As a matter of fact I did look through a couple kush filters. I looked at one town and one scum. Both had about the same amount of involvement in the game, and were similar to his involvement here on D2. Kush could be scum. I really don't know but I don't think it's some guaranteed thing like you are claiming.

Why I am having to go through the past filters of YOUR scumread anyway? If you want to get him lynched it is on YOU to demonstrate why he is scum, which you have not done

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/435582-back-to-the-basics-mini-mafia

On December 21 2014 23:44 sicklucker wrote:
Actually He cant be sk because of the roleblock damn. I assume mafia rb can block sk?
And I highly doubt mafia wastes a roleblock here with two power roles.
So if you claimed rb for last night im gonna pull a full 360 and call you basicly confirmed town

LS ARE YOU HAPPY NOW YOU CAN READ ME TOWN. ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

On December 21 2014 23:47 sicklucker wrote:
So I sapose I gotta sheep the confirmed tryhard town now and vote you sorry ve =(. Can someone filter me where he claims rb so I can sheep him and go to bed.

On December 20 2014 06:08 sciberbia wrote:
Also, I was roleblocked. I'm thinking it's pretty safe to assume by mafia.

On December 22 2014 00:35 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Didnt I say leave Sanders alone!

If anyone didn't catch he was medic there, then somethings wrong this game.

Either that or I'm super pocketed.

WE AREN'T LYNCHING DAMDRED!

Also I'm at a disadvantage cause I can't talk before deadline because my car decided to go kaput.

My vote stays

On December 22 2014 00:39 sciberbia wrote:
@ninjabunnies
Didn't catch he was medic where? There wasn't any reason to think he was medic until he just claimed it 10 minutes ago.

Also, have you read the thread? I'm pretty sure VE is scum. Not sure about kush. I'd love it if you could move your vote to VE if not damdred.

On December 22 2014 05:19 sciberbia wrote:



Gee thanks Palmar lol

You know just because not reading my posts worked out for you this time doesn't mean you should maintain the same policy in future : P



Great job man. The SK flip makes damdred look better I think

On December 22 2014 06:53 Palmar wrote:

No. You made us wait through an entire day last time you were the one remaining mafia.

On December 22 2014 12:44 sicklucker wrote:
My lynch list if dandred proves himself

coag
kush
Ls

Maybe even kush after Ls my second kill has been so townie for him. Thats how easy this game is so many towns I think palmer can even be the last mafia I have to spend time looking at him I see too many towns.

Now that we reduced kp we dont kill dandred till lylo, but if he doesint prove himself remember to acualy kill him and not win the game.

Yes I would totally give up here kush . I gave up 5 minutes into final 3 in my one mafia and I had a small chance. Like even as town I know im likely getting lynched soon...

On December 22 2014 22:32 Palmar wrote:
Oh god.

Well, better find mafia tomorrow then. If I ever get lynched this game you guys get morons of the year award.

On December 23 2014 01:36 sicklucker wrote:
Pros of saying we might lynch palmer - He might not get nked, he will try, it will be funny because hes mad

cons - ......................

On December 23 2014 05:20 sicklucker wrote:


Ya but so did kush.

On December 17 2014 13:58 Damdred wrote:


Firstly, saying that VE is a solid read at this point does not mean that I have a strong read on him. That is why he is under the Town LEAN category in my catch up post.

Ok, and the point is? You basically repeated what I said. Thats the thing though just because I have a read one way or another doesn't mean I have to turn the read into a huge town post why that person is town. Hes possibly town hes in my town pile today unless he does something or someone puts together a head turning case.

This next part is a lie, I say that I hate people hard defending LS based on meta, his meta was brought up by himself (which i really dislike) and bresh talked about it. I think LS has a scum tell that i'd rather not mention until later, but why lie about what I actually said. No where did I even talk about Palmars case you are making things up honestly.



I like this post plus the follow up explanation, his call out on me on my entrance post i felt was towny. His post since haven't read as scummy, he has covered people been invested and not tunneled. He is a solid read atm

On December 23 2014 06:11 sicklucker wrote:


Of course you can when theirs an unconfirmed number of poweroles and your power is blocked. I find it hard to believe your this confident in the balance of a sk game. How many sk games have you been in honestly answer that.

On December 23 2014 09:43 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Mafia such noob. Didn't kill me.

Tho Palmer prob did more than I.

Who we killing today?

On December 23 2014 11:05 kushm4sta wrote:
so sicklucker is scum?

On December 23 2014 11:10 sciberbia wrote:


@LS
Why do you think that Coag calling Palmar scum implies that Coag is the scum?

On December 23 2014 11:15 kushm4sta wrote:
Hi scrib. I was really convinced by your case but do you realize that VE being SK made it almost completely wrong?
Thoughts on that?

Who are you looking among for scum?
kush
sicklucker
coag
ls
??

On December 23 2014 11:24 sciberbia wrote:


@kush
Hey man the first case was kinda wrong but the second case was still pretty spot on imo. The points about him not scumhunting and being overdefensive still stick regardless of whether he was SK or mafia. So I was a combination of lucky and good.

I'm mainly looking among you, sicklucker, and coag for scum.

The troubling thing is that if any of you 3 is scum you probably should have conceded by now, right? That makes me worry that either damdred is the luckiest scum alive, or that I've been wrong all game about LS being town.

+ Show Spoiler +
@LS
Can you explain your thought process a bit more? Why did you think it made Coag scum? Who do you think is scum now? I'm not sure myself and I'm love to hear some convincing arguments if you have any

On December 23 2014 11:25 kushm4sta wrote:
I LISTED MYSELF ON MY OWN LIST OMG.

On December 23 2014 11:37 LightningStrike wrote:
I smell a slip of you being scum because no one in their right minds even as scum would put themselves on their own lynch list. I got to say congrats on the biggest derp move in the century if you are town.
##Vote kushm4sta

On December 23 2014 11:41 kushm4sta wrote:
Why would scum put themselves on their own lynch list? because they forgot they were trying to hide it?

On December 23 2014 12:00 Damdred wrote:
Lynch between Coag, Kush ls and scrib lastly and we win probably.

Sc would be a last effort probably, we won't get that far hopefully though

On December 23 2014 23:15 sciberbia wrote:
##Unvote

I think we should slow down a bit. Given the modkill, if we mislynch today, we will only have 4 players left tomorrow and it will be LYLO. If LightningStrike or Damdred is the last scum, we need to figure this out ideally today.


@LS
The way you phrased that makes it look like you think kush will flip town? We wouldn't necessarily be going on to coag next if kush flips scum, right?

On December 23 2014 23:40 sciberbia wrote:

So what makes you so certain that Damdred and I are town?

For example, yesterday you thought Damdred was scum, but then you agreed with me that Damdred looks better after the SK flip. What was your reasoning for that?

I know other people have already addressed these questions, but I would like to hear it from you.

On December 23 2014 23:55 sciberbia wrote:


No I don't think that we are allowed to no lynch. It says in the OP that voting is mandatory and whoever gets the most votes gets lynched.

I'm just saying that we should have a bit of discussion before deciding who to lynch since it can't hurt. Maybe we can find something we missed and further our knowledge of the alignments of the remaining players.

---

Regarding Damdred, there was never any counterclaim to his blue claim. So what about the SK flip makes Damdred town in your mind? If VE had flipped town or mafia, would you think that Damdred is scum?

On December 24 2014 04:28 Damdred wrote:
That is dumb since we are in mylo tommorow.

Honestly its in the 4 alive people. Why not come up with a plan ls?

On December 24 2014 05:30 Damdred wrote:
...you have to have some idea who scum is if it isn't kush?

On December 24 2014 08:19 Damdred wrote:


You defend mafia here.



Heres your first push on Kush, you mention the game that he was scum but the most recent game you played with kush or the two most recent games he was useless town (carol of the bells) and in the last student mafia game he was ok then went inactive the reverse of here basically.

YOu give Palmar free town read d1 for no reason based on russia mafia and yet when even palmar says no you still give him free town reads. Looking at your filter you give a ton of free town reads.



Soft defend on marv here?



A bit more soft defend and push off of marv and agreeing with marvs mafia partner bresh.



This vote feels like a throw away vote and like a bus vote, well since nobody is jumping on kush i might as well be on marv for that town flip.



At one point you try to push off of marv and onto kush but then all of a sudden the case on marv never changes and all of a sudden the case on him is stronger than on kush? Thats weird progression.

You would rather keep Coag around to see if he changes is in your filter as well. Several places in your filter it seems like you soft defend people to set up mislynches later.

Nno scum hunting besides a total tunnel on kush, you say you have scum reads but don't give them.

Tell me why I shouldn't vote for you after all of this?

On December 17 2014 07:56 Damdred wrote:
I'm town at work ignore me while I catch up

On December 17 2014 08:03 Damdred wrote:
Because it's better thread know I'm here catching up rather than lurking while catching up.

On December 17 2014 11:48 Damdred wrote:


I don't have to agree with all of someones reads to think that they are town overall or towny at the moment. VEis putting in effort which granted he can do as mafia but I can see where hes coming from and where hes going with what hes saying. Even though we come to different conclusions I can at least understand what hes doing.

LS has a ton of people hard defending him based on meta right out of the gate, and that concerns me honestly.

On December 17 2014 13:58 Damdred wrote:


Firstly, saying that VE is a solid read at this point does not mean that I have a strong read on him. That is why he is under the Town LEAN category in my catch up post.

Ok, and the point is? You basically repeated what I said. Thats the thing though just because I have a read one way or another doesn't mean I have to turn the read into a huge town post why that person is town. Hes possibly town hes in my town pile today unless he does something or someone puts together a head turning case.

This next part is a lie, I say that I hate people hard defending LS based on meta, his meta was brought up by himself (which i really dislike) and bresh talked about it. I think LS has a scum tell that i'd rather not mention until later, but why lie about what I actually said. No where did I even talk about Palmars case you are making things up honestly.



I like this post plus the follow up explanation, his call out on me on my entrance post i felt was towny. His post since haven't read as scummy, he has covered people been invested and not tunneled. He is a solid read atm

On December 19 2014 09:33 Damdred wrote:
Don't check me honestly, it would be a waste

On December 20 2014 05:06 Damdred wrote:
Vig come and claim

I'm the Vet, i was not shot, theres a serial killer that we have to find as well

On December 20 2014 05:43 Damdred wrote:
Honestly though, i've played like shit the entire game because i'm not having any fun in the game (which i'm sorry about FF put together a good game its just me right now). All of my posts are kinda meh and i'm playing like shit.

Balance wise there is only 3 power roles for town more than likely, maybe four with a serial killer. If someone else comes forward as a power role I would lynch between them and me soon as you can, doesn't make much sense balance wise.

I am not going to get shot at all because I look pretty scummy and there was enough going on in the thread to look at me in a bad way and if they really want i'm sure they could role block and shoot me.

On December 22 2014 00:14 Damdred wrote:
Duck ok.

I thought I could get by on a vet claim and scrum ignore me. I protected Palomar last night and was going to protect bunnies tonight and laugh Tommorow.

It was a plan maybe bad I'm sorry

On December 24 2014 11:20 Damdred wrote:
ls is so mafia lolz

On December 24 2014 11:31 Damdred wrote:
Look at how you are playing, supposidly Kush is your #1 scum read all game and all of a sudden you lose it and go on me, and make a case that doesn't make me mafia in the least.

Basically your case is, damdred came into the game oddly, your point about me never making posts like that in x games don't really matter as the timing of the entrance is totally different in those games i was one of the top three posters in both games here I came into the game like five hours late and twenty pages behind so totally different.

Palmar agree'd with me about setup, theres not much more to say here NB believes me. with two kill powers you generally will have three town roles, it has been documented in the thread before hand and evidence shown to back this up.

Honestly if you get lynched at town here its becuase you haven't shown towniness in what you have done, at this point all you have done is somewhat defended mafia tried t get people off marv onto kush (your only scum read up to this point). and ask people why they don't have you as town, you haven't pressured people to find alignments or anything, you hae barely asked questions.

So tell me why I shoudl be reading you as town here. Honestly I probably wouldn't lynch you today just because i can't take two huge questin marks to mylo but yea

On December 24 2014 12:13 kushm4sta wrote:
ls but from perspective you have to be scum.
cause i doubt coag is scum or he would have just given up.
and I know I'm not scum.
and scrib wrote that case which makes him not scum
and nb vigged that dude
and damdred is blue right

On December 22 2014 01:44 LightningStrike wrote:
Scib I not moving on the Damdred train and rather go for VE so you can count on my support for your case.

On December 24 2014 00:02 LightningStrike wrote:

We can vote for a no lynch it's legal to do that as far as I aware. If VE had flipped Scum Damdred would of been the SK in my mind with his Vet claim who could of ued the extra life.
Can we vote for a no lynch?

On December 24 2014 14:22 sciberbia wrote:
Alrighty listen up.

I did some rereading, and if we were to discount the medic claim, my two best scum reads would be damdred and coag. There are several good reasons for this, perhaps the biggest is that they both fought against getting VE lynched. I think my case on VE was really really good, and kush and LS read it and sheeped it without question. I think that anyone who actually read the cases should have realized VE was likely scum. As several people have brought up already, the mafia probably did not want the SK to get lynched.

Therefore, LS and kush who pushed VE alongside me look good, whereas damdred and coag who just kind of wishy washily disagreed with it look suspect.

Damdred however is un-counterclaimed for third blue, and lacking a counterclaim it seems unlikely he is scum. Coag on the other hand has basically left the game. Here's what I think Coag's thought process might have been:

• I need the SK to not get lynched so he can shoot all the townies and win the game for me
  
• Shit SK got lynched, so I guess I'm going to lose
  
• Wait lmao some people think I'm town because they think I should have conceded already
  
• So, I'll just literally not do anything and maybe they won't lynch me. Wouldn't that be hilarious?
  

Really there's no good reason to think that Coag has to be town here. He's not putting in any effort and hasn't even voted yet today. He might just be lurking and laughing at us while we tear ourselves to pieces. Fuck that I'm not losing to scum Coag. I say we lynch Coag today.

##Vote: Coagulation

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Now if Coag flips scum, gg and merry christmas!

If either Coag or Sicklucker flip blue, we are lynching Damdred no questions asked. I know they both claimed VT at some point, but honestly I don't completely trust either of them a town not to be doing something dumb.

If they both flip VT, then Damdred is pretty much confirmed because I trust that either LS or kush would have counterclaimed if they were blue. In that case, we go into LYLO tomorrow but at least we have 4 active players, 1 of which is pretty much confirmed town, and we can work it out from there.

What do you guys think of my plan?

On December 25 2014 01:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So today I would not lynch Dam, Scib.

I would however lynch LS, Kush, and Coag.

Also, sorry I haven't been here. Real life got in the way, and I've had a bit of trouble the last couple of days.

Also, why is Kush voting himself?

On December 25 2014 03:31 Damdred wrote:
Theres not a case on coag its just a narrative.

This whole thing Proves NOTHING, mafia doesn't know who sk is at all. which voids out the entire case basically, there was no way that mafia would know that VE was the serial killer, which means it doesn't matter who helped push that case especially since most the thread thought ve was mafia not third party at that time, so it is more likely that mafia road VE in that situation for a mislynch

On December 25 2014 03:43 sciberbia wrote:


How would you know for sure whether or not mafia thought VE was the SK?

We're just gonna have to disagree here because I thought VE was super scummy by the end of D2, and if I were in the position of mafia, knowing that VE cannot be mafia, I would have assumed VE was SK

Anyway, I admit it doesn't PROVE anything definitively because I also don't know for sure whether mafia knew VE was SK.

Sorry if I sound irritated, but instead of just trying to dismantle all my logic, why don't you tell me who YOU want to lynch if not coag?

On December 25 2014 03:59 sciberbia wrote:


He voted you but he said he doesn't want to lynch you today. But he keeps arguing with my reasoning for voting coag so idk what he's trying to do here other than criticize my logic >_>

LS, if you were mafia, wouldn't you also be willing to do anything to look town? In fact, isn't mafia usually even more desperate to look town than townies?