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TL Mafia LXIX: Carol Of The Bells

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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 04 2014 12:45 GMT
#7
/in
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 05 2014 01:03 GMT
#67
Im not sure I want that kind of dream marv.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 02:38 GMT
#540
I was not ready for the sheer volume of posts
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 09:32 GMT
#639
lol what in the world kush
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 10:04 GMT
#641
btw vivax is scum
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 11:18 GMT
#651
vivax has inconsistent reads and look at this shit.

On December 09 2014 08:35 Vivax wrote:
What froggy said is simple common sense but also something that never matters cause at the end of the day it's mostly some scummy looking person getting lynched.

I don't see it as scummy, just as something useless to talk about which isn't scummy at this stage of the game.
The biggest accusation you could make is that he's so serious in a setting where people are kinda joking, but that's not enough to go with in my book. It's more like he's annoyed that people are discussing policies when in past games it always led to that statement of his making the most sense.

Null for me.

Completely unnecessary defence of someone that isnt even close to being a top thread target.
And its a decent amount into the game so i would expect a better opening post since he clearly thought something.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 11:19 GMT
#652
Wait a minute, where in the world did the bandwagon onto Bunnies come from? ?

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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 11:24 GMT
#653
yeah I dunno what in the world.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 11:49 GMT
#656
On December 09 2014 20:41 Holyflare wrote:
That vivax post was at a perfectly normal time on someone that was the thread focus/part of a thread focus. It also happens at the same time as the bunnies posts so I have no idea how you don't know what's happening with bunnies

Also like the (ritoky?) post about ls having quite a lot of unsubstantiated town reads, and not questioning people based on them bla bla post but more so coupled with what kelsier said

Kush could absolutely be mafia at this point of time

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On December 09 2014 15:43 Damdred wrote:
Said its a weak scum read in the post.

votes an hour later? No reap thoughts?


I told him to read my filter and sheep me. Can only assume that's what he did.


I read bunnies posts, there is NOTHING THERE HOLYFLARE>

Also, that wasnt quite my point, my point was that there wasnt so much suspcion on him that it warrented any kinda reasonable defence.
And for a first post? Bad.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 11:56 GMT
#657
Yeah Xata, lightning could be scum.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 12:17 GMT
#669
On December 09 2014 20:57 Holyflare wrote:
Its hardly "vivax has inconsistent reads" like you make it out to be though.

How is there nothing there in bunnies posts???? Are we even reading the same game. At least state why my case/points are wrong before denouncing them based on nothing.

Also in regards to xatalos, bunnies having a 1/4 of the votes doesn't really mean anything and there are people pushing in different directions. This means nothing about bunnies alignment at all though, mafia might not even have a voice in the thread yet so far too much wifom. Your points on hts are... Ehh.. Just not appealing? You pretty much base it all on one post which isn't even that scummy and then say the rest of her posts are fluff but they aren't really in the context, she also has no suspicion of damd and the association of bunnies/hts doesn't apply at all with the evidence.

I also don't know why you even have a kelsier read in your post at all, that looks really out of place.

Vivax defended bunnies then called her scum without referring to his defence of her at all.

You spend like 5 posts talking about how she called someone town but that he did scummy shit. You realise that its not mutually exclusive?

You can do scummy shit and still be town.

Im totes not defending bunnies but there are better people to lynch today.
^^

And seriously so many posts asking people what they think of bunnies.
Its clearly working but its making feel like you dont know what you are doing.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 12:57 GMT
#690
I really dont know man Xata, her tone seems pretty happy and alright.

Meh, not making a read now on her.

Hey Holyflare, that is completely true on Vivax.
However, bunnies didnt explain shit on her change which makes me think it is really bad. So too scum to be scum.

Vivax's reasons for Bunnies scum are weak though, looks exactly like what he said bunnies was doing.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 13:00 GMT
#692
On December 09 2014 21:57 rsoultin wrote:
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On December 09 2014 21:50 Koshi wrote:
Can the 3rd joyful child claim? I want to see if scum has the balls to counterclaim.

By claiming joyful Templar verified this:
On December 09 2014 11:48 sicklucker wrote:
Oh shit. Ya I missed that part I was fishing and trolling for info on who the other Joyful Child were because I figured only we knew presents were in the game because I missed that part. I thought damdred and gb were the other two, I still kinda think they are oh well. Who wants a present.

Ok so we all know theres 3 presents in the game. But what I know is that its the Joyful Child role that has these presents. No one else can be sure of this as its not said in the description. But Damdred and gb sent out little tells that told me they were this role.I might have been wrong so ill reread it later but I think their the other giftgivers and therefore town.

Also Ive been up 20 hours and dont rly feel like playing much right now but the insomnia might have kicked in.


So can the third joyful claim asap and confirm the bolded.

3 confirmed town is ezpz.


Really? Just...really? First, SL is a nincompoop, though well-meaning. Second, Damdred clearly in his droppings was asking for presents long before he actually said that he didn't have any. Third, they're random. Mod even came back in to say they were random. Random, random, random.

The dumb here is stifling.

OWS anyone? Or we gonna waste our time on ninja and HTS some more?

Nope not OWS.
Vivax.
Explain why pls.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 13:01 GMT
#695
Its not a bad lynch.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 13:02 GMT
#697
Its not the best lynch.

liancourt pls.

Give a reason HTS why kush claimed.
Come on, try.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 13:43 GMT
#725
On December 09 2014 22:03 Holyflare wrote:
I also think bats is relatively not scummy at the present moment because he dropped everything after he was proven wrong and just sheeped me instead which is in fact townyish.

Would lynch: bunnies, kush, (oats?), (ls?), obi.

Still deciding on brackets. Subject to change on a few too. Full list later though, will be home at night and can write longer posts. Keep wasting posts on random crap and I'm almost at 4 pages -.-

Bunnies : what I've been saying
Kush: useless vote, useless scrooge post, afking and not caring about the game
Oats: talked about vivax but was completely wrong about it/bunnies
Ls: lots of town reads little justification, rito/kelsier points
Obi: bleh

No are you even reading?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 13:45 GMT
#726
On December 09 2014 22:41 ritoky wrote:
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On December 09 2014 22:30 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:14 LoneMeow wrote:
LightningStrike, a bunch of stuff has happened since you posted your list post with reads, care to share some updated reads with us now?

Well not much of my reads did change as I did read the thread from where we were last night compared to today and it been mostly the same stuff as why I given them their original reads


Oh really? well let's wait for your one scum read then

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On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Since people were asking for my explanation why certain people are town in my eyes here they are atm
HF: He seemed to start a discussion and tried to move people in a town direction to get scum.
Templar: He may have a silly story telling but inside it he seemed to be town but it just my inexperience playing with him that might fool me.
OWS: I played with him once in Campus Mafia only and he had to replace someone and he seemed to post similar to how he replaced the person in that game.
Slam: Slam posting is completely different when he played scum in Titanic Mafia so I confident he is town this game.
Damdred: Damdred is also trying to lead the discussions with HF which normally a Scum wouldn't do so I got him on my list for that.
rsoultin: Newer player to this site and only played with him once but he was town and he seemed to act the same way he did when he was town.
FF: He doing similar shenanigans as he did in Campus Mafia when he was town when I played with him so I trust he is town atm.
Now for my null reads
27ninja: Something seems fishy with him but I can't explain it but at the same time I cant put in town unless I get more posts from him.
HTS: Doesn't seem like himself when he was townie in a game and I can't really put him on the scum atm because he might be more conservative for this game than in his last game.
Ritoky: I never played with him before so I trying to still figure him out but he seemed to question more on people voting than leading anything.
Now for my scumlist
sicklucker: Normally sicklucker likes to do weird shenanigans to force everyones town read that are normally awkward and this game he doesn't seem to be doing that.


your reads:
HF- obvious read that everyone is making
Templar - trying to noob claim
OWS - meta
Slam - meta in a game you didn't even play
Damdred - fine enough
rsoultin - meta
FF - meta
27nb - non-committal
HTS - meta
ritoky - wait and see

and then there's sicklucker....you say he hasn't done weird shenanigans, but he literally HAS DONE THOSE THINGS. like this is just a straight lie. if you actually were following the thread you should have very clearly read that he did the things that you should have town read him for. that has clearly changed since your original post, so why hasn't your read?

like your reads are crap, they are primarily meta, they have 0 content, 1 is a straight up lie, and they are stagnant even though a whole lot has happened. i just really cannot believe that this is in any way a town perspective.

##vote: LightningStrike

Thats how he plays man.
Did you check his meta?

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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 15:26 GMT
#809
On December 10 2014 00:11 Holyflare wrote:
2 people haven't posted in this game at all yet, useful -.-

Oats, your post on vivax is wrong and your post refuting that wasn't in any english I could understand.


Vivax called bunnies scum for a superficial reason.
That reason was that bunnies switched to fit in.

However, there is no indication that bunnies intentionally did that. In fact, she doesnt even explain her vote which is townie imo.

Vivax defended bunnies earlier but now is calling her scum.
Its the exact thing he said.

And it looks a ton like he is bandwagoning.

Scummmyyyyy.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 15:31 GMT
#815
On December 10 2014 00:25 Vivax wrote:
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On December 10 2014 00:10 Tubesock wrote:
Holy Moses.

I didn't think I was such a slow reader but it's been hours and I feel I will never catch up to the thread while taking notes also. I'm trying to get reads, but they are conflicting with people who I feel are pretty freaking smart sounding. Namely, Koshi and Xata.

Koshi, since you are here can you tell me more about your HTS read? I feel I'm fairly null/town on her. Namely, I believe that Froggy's plynch statement isn't meaningful. Bunny latches and basically posts it's probably bad but she thinks it's ok. Then scum lists Froggy. Then several people jump on her and later Dam asks HTS about the Froggy/plynch read. HTS replies that it's null on his part but Bunnies scum listing is scummy. HTS doesn't seem to scumlist Froggy. Then a bunch more people argue (kelsierSC, Bats, Viv others). I'd like to know why I should elevate the signifigance of HTS's reads and downplay Bunny's?

Also I think people should read this more closely from the OP:

On December 04 2014 19:32 Palmar wrote:
Setup Information


All the roles below can be present in the game, and no role has any sort of a guarantee that it exists in the game. There may for example be three Ghosts of Christmas Yet To Come, no other Ghosts and no Scrooge, yet Marley might be present. In the same sense, there may be Disgruntled Christmas Workers without any Santas or Branch Managers. There may also be multiple instances of the same role.



It appears that given bad enough RNG we could have 6 Marlows, or 6 Mass Murderers, or 0.

Which makes me wonder why we had a Scrooge claim?? It makes me wonder if any claims will matter as we can have multiples...so why not counterclaim?





This post looks very mafiaish at this stage of the game.

Tube summarizes some stuff about the argument revolving bunnies and then HTS (which I still have to read atm), and asks another player "stuff" about it as if he couldn't judge it on his own, apparently cause it conflicts with his own reads (what are his reads???). Guessing from the post it would be that he's scumreading 27nb but not HTS, cause he's asking Koshi if he should give more priority to HTS instead of 27nb.

This is the sort of post I expect from a mafia who simply divides the game into different "wagon camps" consisting of different players and then works off that instead of genuinely working off arguments and reads. When he has the information, he doesn't know what to do with it in order to start looking townie. So his best bet is to start a discussion about it with some player he deems influential, and then post some random setup related stuff.

Lol why is this not townish?
He is reading the thread closely enough to ask an ok question because this dude reads someone scummier than his scummier read. Its not a bad question.
And the setup speculation is relevant considering it had been an issue.

Its not a bad post Vivax, why are you trying to force a scumread on it?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 15:31 GMT
#816
lian is fucking annoying but it doesnt mean hes scum.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 15:39 GMT
#823
On December 10 2014 00:38 liancourt wrote:
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On December 10 2014 00:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
lian is fucking annoying but it doesnt mean hes scum.


Then what does it mean? U are so sure of this why?

Its not alignment indicative.
Also stop typing U rather than You. Its again, fucking annoying.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 16:01 GMT
#847
ok now tubesock is doing useless setup speculation.
I had so much faith.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 16:35 GMT
#861
All notifications are done at the start or end of day/night.
Come on guys, this is simple.......

ANYWAY ITS COMPLETELY RANDOM WHAT THE PRESENTS ARE, STOP TALKING ABOUT IT.

Tubesock, whos scum?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 09 2014 17:12 GMT
#870
How is it possible for it to be 3am but you are in the United States?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 10 2014 13:42 GMT
#1211
damn vivax aint scum.

##unvote

Although I dont completely agree with his case on xata.


I really really hate all the list posts, what are they for?
Completely dont get it.

##vote froggy
This is the right one today.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 10 2014 13:42 GMT
#1212
On December 10 2014 22:42 rsoultin wrote:
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On December 10 2014 19:31 Tubesock wrote:
On December 10 2014 19:06 LoneMeow wrote:

Why did you vote Xatalos after saying you don't understand the wagon and essentially making a light push on the opposing wagon?


I was pissed. I'm still mad. Once Koshi responded that my post was completely worthless due to the claim which I missed. I reverted to my previous read of Viv and sheeped him.

I calmed down a bit and thought about my scum read on Obi, my uncertainty about Rasputin, and realized that all through their talk about Xatas they never cited NB as a claimed role. So, I ninja'd back my vote to 27NB.


Why would we? NB never claimed a role. If she did and I missed it, please link. There was a miscommunication involving a caroling vid, but she flat out said that was not a claim.

That list is getting way more attention than necessary. It was never that important to begin with, and if she says that iffy was meant as null and people to look at was meant as scum, then fine. She should know. Regardless, it should raise enough doubt to get those of you who are hyper-focusing (and have been from the start) on froggy and NB cause it's convenient and they were the first to draw attention to take a step back and actually look at some of the other players in the game.

The point that she is not as strong a scum case as before does call into question Xatalos' decision to vote her when he wasn't comfortable with it before. Maybe he has no other scum reads (kinda scary), but if so, he has time to defend himself.


So whats your read on Xata now?

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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 10 2014 14:13 GMT
#1218
On December 10 2014 22:58 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 22:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
On December 10 2014 22:42 rsoultin wrote:
On December 10 2014 19:31 Tubesock wrote:
On December 10 2014 19:06 LoneMeow wrote:

Why did you vote Xatalos after saying you don't understand the wagon and essentially making a light push on the opposing wagon?


I was pissed. I'm still mad. Once Koshi responded that my post was completely worthless due to the claim which I missed. I reverted to my previous read of Viv and sheeped him.

I calmed down a bit and thought about my scum read on Obi, my uncertainty about Rasputin, and realized that all through their talk about Xatas they never cited NB as a claimed role. So, I ninja'd back my vote to 27NB.


Why would we? NB never claimed a role. If she did and I missed it, please link. There was a miscommunication involving a caroling vid, but she flat out said that was not a claim.

That list is getting way more attention than necessary. It was never that important to begin with, and if she says that iffy was meant as null and people to look at was meant as scum, then fine. She should know. Regardless, it should raise enough doubt to get those of you who are hyper-focusing (and have been from the start) on froggy and NB cause it's convenient and they were the first to draw attention to take a step back and actually look at some of the other players in the game.

The point that she is not as strong a scum case as before does call into question Xatalos' decision to vote her when he wasn't comfortable with it before. Maybe he has no other scum reads (kinda scary), but if so, he has time to defend himself.


So whats your read on Xata now?



Eh, I don't really have the time to answer this, to be honest. You can see it sprinkled through my other posts. I'll try to be back in enough time to change my vote if it's warranted, but gotta work. Ciao.

HE JUST POSTED LIKE A TON.

COME ON MAN. .

thats why i said, now, as opposed to nothing.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 10 2014 14:14 GMT
#1219
On December 10 2014 23:06 KelsierSC wrote:
Alright don't know who is in the thread so just going to spout some stuff.

So the first read I had of NB was that she didn't contradict herself and then hf explained how and afterwards I was like yeh you're right and I read hf as town for that.

So then NB comes back to the thread and pings me out for having soft reads or something, again like I just don't agree but I suppose if you have a different playstyle then yeh you can see that as scummy I guess.

She then gives her read on viv which is really not explained that well at all, she linked to a post and apparently he made "substantial" posts.

She also made the post "you need to learn how to read me, you are stupid" to somebody. Which I really didn't like because it is just mafia faking indignation. How can she possibly think she projected town.

So yeh I would happily vote that, if it wasn't for tubesock voting her which is really giving me pause but I will talk about that later.

So then viv shows up and he just kind of bw onto nb by calling me scum but he can't just sheep the read right, he has to make up some reasons, so apparently my scrooge thing was scummy because i am trying to get scrooge to claim and not making a play. So many things wrong with that, it was a specific play and the the retraction was immediate, No one in their right mind would actually claim there. I then called ff scum as a result and followed up, again viv says I didn't. he also calls me scum because I don't like people giving slam an immediate town read. Again the case is really fucking weak and it just looks like he has is trying to find a reason to call me scum rather than actually do it. His case on Xat is weak, it is because he town reads me. I think I have played pretty town and because Xat actually analysed my play and read the thread he is scum. yeh I just think these are bad reads so viv could be scum.

So then after this we get a few people who bw onto the vote, OWS, who just posts shit anyway , FF who I think is scummy, then rsoult...who might just be misguided.

So then tubesock, also votes on xat despite not understanding the wagon, but then unvotes again to go back on nb, even though nb pushes on me who he thinks is bad for town.
His main reason I am bad for town...because I talked to a woman and because apparently my reads aren't substantial. so this is a sheep of the nb reason (a terrible reason) , so you just sheep the read of your top mafia,
So then I have to evaluate what I think of tubesock because his play is so non sensical. So then I think well maybe NB could be town and tube/viv are the mafia.

Like I look at the votes on nb and a lot of my town aare voting there, but then HTS and tube vote...

I think my scum lynch would be LS, FF, viv and tube..pretty ok with that




can you edit this down to like 4 lines? Cause it seems like a whole lotta fluff shit and thats bad.

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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 10 2014 14:15 GMT
#1220
On December 10 2014 23:08 froggynoddy wrote:
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On December 10 2014 09:37 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On December 10 2014 04:39 froggynoddy wrote:
Why do you keep saying this is doublespeak? This is not double speak fella. I think you should explain why you seem to think so as I don't think I can explain myself any better than I already have.

On another note I don't like lists (apart from Santa's of course). Way too easy to appear town without actually doing anything to benefit town.

FOS:
Ninja (i.e. defends me without really defending - adds a list - no other content or justification)
and possibly Templar (list, does no justify reads, everything posted so far is just description of other people's reads - fluff - or overreaction)

Still reading...



Also, how jerky is this?

I defend his ass saying his post is not alignment indicative. Go through hell for it, and he fucking scum reads me.


What is this shit?

Also 4 posts? Never should have defended you.


You should only regret defending me because you think I am scum, not because you dislike my reaction. I found your play relatively fluffy, appearing to be active when not contributing to town. Just because you are defending me does not make you town. Similarly even though Damdred attacked me I think his play is pretty townie.

You should not be looking for jerky play you should be looking for scummy play. Generally I also don't like people defending other sas it stops them from responding. Its also easy for scum to look town by defending town.

Re low post count: TBH I am finding this game relatively overwhelming. first game in a while and the only reason I thought I would be able to be active is due to the post restriction... this has not worked or at least people are posting without content which is making is making it more difficult.

I have had a look at LS - though again I disagree with most of his reads I feel that he is just being clumsy (like me it seems) rather than scummy.

I really don't like Rit's posting. will have anothe rlook at filter by tonight and decide on whether I find it scummy as well as bad/weird. I will also have a closer look at Templar since he has come back, but from what I can see he seems to be contributing so null read.


So all your reads are null?
Dont you have any super strong reads either direction?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 11 2014 06:10 GMT
#1502
i changed my vote to frogger k.

Meh, actually Im not too torn up on bunnies dying.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 12 2014 02:25 GMT
#1742
On December 12 2014 11:11 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 11:05 Half the Sky wrote:
2am...FML. Good night, will continue on this around lunchtime or so. LS, I will remember to follow up on Oats, but I'd say for now, it's not looking good. He just seemed way more involved.

Rasputin, since you're here, can you give a comparison of Oats' gameplay as you know it versus what we're seeing now, (or if you have an opinion, then what?) we are trying to see if we can compare playstyles and get something alignment indicative. My opinion from SMIV is that it's not looking good, but this isn't a mini game either. LS gave a load of links to go through a few pages ago.


Heh, he's certainly less present this game, but the only one I'm comfortable giving a meta-read on is SL, and that's just cause he's so careless it's obvious. As a near plynch, sure...but I wouldn't vote Oats Day 2 unless I see something scummy from his corner, and he's reading more null than anything to me right now.

I havent done jack shit and you dont have a read on me?

actually that makes sense. disregard.

Froggydude still the best lynch for today, look at the shit he has written.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 12 2014 02:26 GMT
#1743
I would explain but its all kinda bad
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 12 2014 02:27 GMT
#1744
Hey glowingbear, why is liancourt scum and not a dick?

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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 12 2014 03:23 GMT
#1786
On December 12 2014 12:20 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 12:12 Holyflare wrote:
No that's dumb because you don't include the part where he could be mafia AND GIVE THEM AN EXTRA KP OR A CHANCE TO SNIPE ROLES.

I'd agree if he looked towny. He doesn't at all.


That would be even better. We would hit a for sure mafia tomorrow(him) and hopefully one today! We should set it up so he has to prove himself if he lives the night. If we vote him now its like a 50/50 in my mind or worse. Why not wait till the odds are better?

because thats how the game works? You kill the person you think is the scummiest.
What happens if he says roleblocked or some shit. Same shit different day. pushing this issue back isnt gonna help anyone.

Can you seriously tell me that you think there is better than a 50% chance to lynch anyone else in the game?

I dont actually think ritoky is scum but you know, answer the questions.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 12 2014 13:05 GMT
#1849
On December 12 2014 21:25 GlowingBear wrote:
Oats, I want you to say exactly why you want to lunch frog.

sounds appealing.

Er mainly its for the waffle around the policy lynch, not policy lynch shit that wasnt waffle but shouldve been waffle.
And the templar read.
Early day 1 - (when he is meant to be busy): lots of fluffy no content reads;
Mid Day 1 - Comes back with something again that looks constructive but is not (see FF's deconstruction that I would tend to agree with)
Late day 1 - no real pressure on him (apart from me kinda and FF kinda) - says a few things of no value - goes away (whilst this is when he was meant to be more active).

This is a super fluffy read that doesnt even show anything. Its super generalized and can be used for like half the players in the game. So its a contrived read that he did because he didnt feel comfortable doing something about nb and preferred to stay out of the spotlight.

He scum yo.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 12 2014 13:13 GMT
#1853
On December 12 2014 22:10 GlowingBear wrote:
I want to read more of the thread before making a case on HF, but a lot of his reasoning is off. The lack of push on ritoky's present claim, the multiple scumreads of wagons outside the 27nb wagon and the 27nb mislynch is all playing against him.

His entrance in this game is awful, he picking on bunnies for being contradictory when picking up on frogs awful entrance but not picking on Vivax post on frog... This kind of double standards worries me.

explain pls.
Im not feeling it.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 12 2014 13:38 GMT
#1856
On December 12 2014 22:17 The_Templar wrote:
Froggy's read on me isn't terrible. It shows a pattern at least.
Slam is town based on what I've heard on him.

a pattern of what?

Its like bad, dunno why you are calling a scumread on you good for no reason.

I really dont like it when people do that.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 06:36 GMT
#2113
How is nk analysis even relevant?

Its straight up speculation. Look at how many other reads the dead people have.

Fecal has more posts than like 50% of the game.

Come on Vivax/hf other bad people.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 06:36 GMT
#2115
Yeah this is a straight up baddddd lynch.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 07:10 GMT
#2152
On December 13 2014 15:38 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 15:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
How is nk analysis even relevant?

Its straight up speculation. Look at how many other reads the dead people have.

Fecal has more posts than like 50% of the game.

Come on Vivax/hf other bad people.


This post looks so mafia to me right now.

Do I care?
no.

Trefel or Froggy is it today.
Actually do I prefer trefel?
Yes yes i do.

##unvote
##vote Trefel

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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 07:15 GMT
#2155
On December 13 2014 15:47 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 15:42 rsoultin wrote:
On December 13 2014 15:38 Vivax wrote:
On December 13 2014 15:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
How is nk analysis even relevant?

Its straight up speculation. Look at how many other reads the dead people have.

Fecal has more posts than like 50% of the game.

Come on Vivax/hf other bad people.


This post looks so mafia to me right now.


Heh, don't actually agree on that one, Viva.

FF isn't the worst lynch we could do (which is why I wouldn't cry tears over it) but based off of NKs when we're not sure who or what killed who...and also assuming that there weren't any other reasons for killing them other than their scum reads...seems like a stretch. I'm willing to entertain a proper case against FF though. Even willing to look at him more closely myself, but he does come off a lot like another kush lol ><


THE CASE IS OUT. Find it in my filter, or look at what Alakaslam quoted.

Also I want to go into more detail on what Oats said there:

He completely skipped over all of the reasoning used to only argue for FF being town cause of his mere post count, he's putting zero effort in to get a read on him in any other way. It's not like he has a way of being sure about FFs alignment yet, no evidence of an opinion on FF in his filter. He just dismisses the case without caring in the slightest whether FF is actually town or mafia.

Yes because you apparently took a decent amount of time to find everyone dead that called FF scum which is completely pointless method of determining alignment. So you think its important.
Its not.

And if thats like one of the points in the case which is scattered over like 20 pages, then thats super bad.

I really dont know if FF is town or mafia, but im trending town and the case doesnt help.

Fecalfeast for some of the stuff I found in his filter and already mentioned, plus he martyrs at various points, like during N1 and lately when he sort of expressed he doesn't care about the scumreads. But it's not the sort of righteous townie martyr when somebody is genuinely pissed off about people scumreading him or the sort, it's more like the "I don't care about the game"- martyr. Additionally he was in the focus of the night killed guys.

This is totally a gut read, regardless of what you say later.

Super weak.


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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 08:58 GMT
#2169
On December 13 2014 16:56 Trfel wrote:
Thanks rsoultin. I'll take a look. I had a pretty good idea though.

One more thing I found interesting about the Oatsmaster argument.
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 16:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
On December 13 2014 15:38 Vivax wrote:
On December 13 2014 15:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
How is nk analysis even relevant?

Its straight up speculation. Look at how many other reads the dead people have.

Fecal has more posts than like 50% of the game.

Come on Vivax/hf other bad people.


This post looks so mafia to me right now.

Do I care?
no.

Trefel or Froggy is it today.
Actually do I prefer trefel?
Yes yes i do.

##unvote
##vote Trefel


Last game (Student Mafia IV), Oatsmaster attacked batsnacks early on for advocating a policy lynch on kusmh4sta. This game, in the middle of discussion, Oatsmaster ignores it and advises what is basically a policy lynch instead.

I'd definitely like to know why your views on policy lynches have changed, Oatsmaster.

Because you clearly aren't a policy lynch?
My views haven't changed, you are scum because you've shown none of the previous interest in the game.

Vivax, is your best argument, look what this dead dude said?? It doesn't even look like you seriously looked through my filter.

And kitas first point is speculation and bad.
Second point is bad too, why don't I just go on the nb lynch rather than suggesting my own lynch and making a 'weak' effort to question someone else?
Btw, froggy didn't respond to the question I asked.

I really rethinking my read on you. It really rubs me the wrong way when you use flipped townies to justify your read.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 09:33 GMT
#2170
Pressure voting works woop.
##unvote
##vote vivax
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 12:02 GMT
#2175
On December 13 2014 21:00 Tubesock wrote:
GlowingBear. You had a nice post there, but then what happened man?? I'm holding my breath for your 2nd installment. Oh, sorry, too drunk to do it.

FecalFeast's lynch doesn't fit in my current worldview. Yeah, he's done a lot of scum things but him flipping mafia while great doesn't help me find his mates. Well, to be honest I haven't gone in with the zealousness I did with my 4 disclosed (In case Sicklucker forgot they are: The_Templar, KelsierSC, Sicklucker, GlowingBear). I have a 5th but I need the right person to flip and sadly that isn't Fecal.

To me HolyFire's really only drove the NinjaBunny wagon which we all were on and his investigating Ritoky pretty hard. He's hunting at least. Ritoky to me is very town. I read him today a bit and really the only thing I didn't really like is he likes good jokes when talking in the beginning. Yeah, so I have basically nothing on him.

Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 14:35 Alakaslam wrote:

Hijole I see you now.

without google I wouldn't know a citation from a jet stream, a Lear from a Cessna.

However I do know what AOPA is


You also post quickly you think it's an irreparable post. Which to me made me think of the Key & Peele Text Confusion skit specifically. I find it hilarious and very applicable to the game of Mafia. I haven't figured out how to embed it so you'll have to google, but it will be the first return.

Is he thinking he DID make an unexplainable error or is he testing and reading me? Haha, it's funny because it's both. You asked me to not remind you about flying so I'm going to spoiler the rest.

+ Show Spoiler +
Cessna makes Citations, there are Jetstream aircraft (Jetstream 31), jet streams are often talked about on the weather channel, and a Learjet is a jet like a Cessna Citation but if you're talking small airplanes to the general public they refer to them as Cessna's. They mean the C172, or C206 Stationair, they don't know they also include the $25 million Citation X a sexy sexy and I think still the FASTEST business jet in production. Although the new Gulfstream 650 and 850 are in contention.

I've been a member of AOPA since 1993. I don't read their magazine very often generally just the turbine pilot section or an article on an old antique bird. I gifted my free subscription of Flight Training Magazine to a couple students for a bit. I only really read Aviation Week & Space anymore. Flying, Sport Pilot, Airline, and many of those other magazines tend to repeat themselves so I only skim them at best and haven't opened one in over a decade.

whos scum bro?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 12:34 GMT
#2182
On December 13 2014 21:07 Tubesock wrote:
Oats, are you making fun of me now?

I didnt see that part my bad.

Seems odd that you think both ksc and gb are scum.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 12:35 GMT
#2183
On December 13 2014 21:21 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 16:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
On December 13 2014 15:38 Vivax wrote:
On December 13 2014 15:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
How is nk analysis even relevant?

Its straight up speculation. Look at how many other reads the dead people have.

Fecal has more posts than like 50% of the game.

Come on Vivax/hf other bad people.


This post looks so mafia to me right now.

Do I care?
no.

Trefel or Froggy is it today.
Actually do I prefer trefel?
Yes yes i do.

##unvote
##vote Trefel



Could you explain why you want to lynch him?

changed my mind.
But then he stopped.

Why do people do this man.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 12:55 GMT
#2187
On December 13 2014 21:43 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 21:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
On December 13 2014 21:21 Xatalos wrote:
On December 13 2014 16:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
On December 13 2014 15:38 Vivax wrote:
On December 13 2014 15:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
How is nk analysis even relevant?

Its straight up speculation. Look at how many other reads the dead people have.

Fecal has more posts than like 50% of the game.

Come on Vivax/hf other bad people.


This post looks so mafia to me right now.

Do I care?
no.

Trefel or Froggy is it today.
Actually do I prefer trefel?
Yes yes i do.

##unvote
##vote Trefel



Could you explain why you want to lynch him?

changed my mind.
But then he stopped.

Why do people do this man.


What does this mean?

I changed my mind because of something he was doing, basically looking interested in the game and looking intentional in his posts, but then he went away.

Why do people do this man.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 12:55 GMT
#2188
Why is your read on me so waffley?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 12:55 GMT
#2189
On December 13 2014 21:46 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 21:21 Xatalos wrote:
On December 13 2014 16:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
On December 13 2014 15:38 Vivax wrote:
On December 13 2014 15:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
How is nk analysis even relevant?

Its straight up speculation. Look at how many other reads the dead people have.

Fecal has more posts than like 50% of the game.

Come on Vivax/hf other bad people.


This post looks so mafia to me right now.

Do I care?
no.

Trefel or Froggy is it today.
Actually do I prefer trefel?
Yes yes i do.

##unvote
##vote Trefel



Could you explain why you want to lynch him?


Oats is making fun of me for my batshit crazy posts. His post is Foggy.

IM NOT
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 13:36 GMT
#2193
On December 13 2014 22:17 Xatalos wrote:
Oh wait. Your vote is on Vivax now. That's even dumber though since you didn't even scumread him.

i did man, come on read my shit.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 13:36 GMT
#2194
On December 13 2014 22:00 Xatalos wrote:
Dunno what you mean with that. Basically I think you look slightly better than FF, which isn't a great achievement. Shape up if you're town.

So why is your vote still on him and what specifically makes you think Froggy is scum?

I mean you say you kinda not wanna lynch me and kinda wanna lynch me.

Make up your mind, am I town or scum?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 13:38 GMT
#2196
On December 13 2014 22:09 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 21:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On December 13 2014 21:46 Tubesock wrote:
On December 13 2014 21:21 Xatalos wrote:
On December 13 2014 16:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
On December 13 2014 15:38 Vivax wrote:
On December 13 2014 15:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
How is nk analysis even relevant?

Its straight up speculation. Look at how many other reads the dead people have.

Fecal has more posts than like 50% of the game.

Come on Vivax/hf other bad people.


This post looks so mafia to me right now.

Do I care?
no.

Trefel or Froggy is it today.
Actually do I prefer trefel?
Yes yes i do.

##unvote
##vote Trefel



Could you explain why you want to lynch him?


Oats is making fun of me for my batshit crazy posts. His post is Foggy.

IM NOT


I read you solid town since I before I went nuclear. I thought you might be trying to tease me with your trfl or Froggy post and thought it was funny. I DO however think that we need to know what both Trfl and Froggy flip, BUT I think we should flip Froggy first.

I think reading this game looking at each individual for scummy play is incorrect. I think it's more finding a strategy as there is a solid case on EVERYONE. The only actual evidence we have is after they die. So, really, town looks for motive while mafia tries to hide.

Why do you feel like trefels and froggy's alignment are connected to the others?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 16:33 GMT
#2227
Palmars roles are in fucking ridiculuous numbers
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 16:34 GMT
#2228
I dont see how GB's stuff is super relevant now, we arent lynching sl today regardless.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 16 2014 03:45 GMT
#3561
I really dont get anyone saying that we shouldnt lynch confirmed mafia. Thats lunacy.

Other than that, holyflare and xata are both lame dumbo scum as well as Vivax. There is a reason why nobody is picking up my lynch.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 16 2014 04:58 GMT
#3565
On December 16 2014 12:55 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 12:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
I really dont get anyone saying that we shouldnt lynch confirmed mafia. Thats lunacy.

Other than that, holyflare and xata are both lame dumbo scum as well as Vivax. There is a reason why nobody is picking up my lynch.


I'm sorry, you've already caught up?

eh mostly.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 16 2014 05:10 GMT
#3566
On December 16 2014 13:18 Tubesock wrote:
It's really difficult to defend Ritoky. My vote will stay on Holyflare though as he's one of my strongest reads (all my conspiracy theories) and at one time there were 5 of my top scum on Ritoky. Sicklucker jumped off, but I am waiting for the rest of them to jump off too when the wagon becomes strong enough without a couple of them. HF is already saying how he goes back on forth. I don't see him staying the course on Ritoky despite being one of the first votes on him.

how the fuck does ritoky fail claiming shit not convince you?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 16 2014 06:02 GMT
#3570
On December 16 2014 14:49 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 12:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
I really dont get anyone saying that we shouldnt lynch confirmed mafia. Thats lunacy.

Other than that, holyflare and xata are both lame dumbo scum as well as Vivax. There is a reason why nobody is picking up my lynch.


This is Oats first contribution since three days, and you really think he has any desire to solve this game? He claims to have caught up but completely ignores my claim. He says I'm scum with Xata and HF when I voted HF over flipped scum D2, and kept posting my concerns on Xatalos and argued about it so much. But we're all scum together??

Like, there's a limit to the insanity a town can show, while this is a case of a scum who doesn't like playing the scum game but pretends he does play the town game. And when Oats has such a bad grasp of the game it's cause he's scum.

Vote for this guy.

Its like 2 days.

And I dont know what the heck you are doing now. Stop derailing the ritoky lynch man.
And you all dont need to be scum but its pretty fucking likely its at least 2 of you.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 16 2014 06:04 GMT
#3572
your claim means nothing vivax.

SL pls.
Pls.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 16 2014 15:07 GMT
#3596
Its soooo stupid, why are people giving rikoty a pass cause he sucks?
Come on guys.

Play smart.

GB case is ok, revist tmr.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 16 2014 23:44 GMT
#3772
yeah motherfucking get fucking wrecked.

SL can you stop pussying around and make a proper case so I can laugh at it?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 17 2014 00:07 GMT
#3786
On December 17 2014 08:51 sicklucker wrote:
Like I cant even make a case you havent been playing. Thats my case. If you sit and do do nothing for over a week eventually your mafia by poe.

Thats dumb.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 17 2014 00:08 GMT
#3787
On December 17 2014 08:56 sicklucker wrote:
Oats has a 3 page filter in a 190 page game. Guys? Like ls, rstun, hts you know hes mafia from this alone based on last game where he had 10x the filter in a much less active game.

worst reasoning ever.
Check my games, I always have less in a large game than mini games.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 18 2014 01:07 GMT
#3945
On December 18 2014 10:02 sicklucker wrote:
Gb can still be mafia. But hes so less likely and he correctly explain why hf is mafia. your on my mafia radar now the line in the sand has been drawn. Hf basicly claimed by not telling us who he sent the present to if you didnt read the thread.

tmi.

Actually its super silly for holyflare to fakeclaim really badly.
Hes better than that.
Sadly.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 18 2014 07:57 GMT
#4000
On December 18 2014 16:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Remember that the present thing is not about FAKE claiming: it's about that a scum wouldn't give a present to a town unless he was going to shoot him.
So holyflare sent it to a scum partner because he will be caught on a lie of he says he sent it to a townie and he will incriminate a mafia partner if he gets lybched and flip red.

Again, it's simple logic.

So why would scum holyflare be so bad at claiming?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 18 2014 07:59 GMT
#4001
On December 18 2014 16:48 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 10:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
On December 18 2014 10:02 sicklucker wrote:
Gb can still be mafia. But hes so less likely and he correctly explain why hf is mafia. your on my mafia radar now the line in the sand has been drawn. Hf basicly claimed by not telling us who he sent the present to if you didnt read the thread.

tmi.

Actually its super silly for holyflare to fakeclaim really badly.
Hes better than that.
Sadly.


Really bad as scum
Extremely bad as town

It's ridiculous how many inconsistencies I've found on holyflare's gameplay. He's not one to drown on such fallacies and misinterpretations of posts.
It sounds mafia. It makes perfect sense that HF is the roleblocker therefore they lynched KSC.
Obi obviously did shot LoneMeow.

If you can't see this, you're really stupid.

Town holyflare has no problem in saying to whom he gave the present, because this guy already doesn't have the present l, so it's safe to claim to whom he has given it. He doesn't say because he will incriminate another mafia if he says or the townie will say he never got the present. This is a simple scum claim.

If you doubt it, just ask to HF to whom he gave the present. If he refuses to say, ask why. He won't give you a satisfactory reason, I guarantee.

Also, have this in mind: if he sent his present to someone, how does he knows this person have this present to FF instead of opening it? How does he knows this person gave the present to FF? Hint: it's because he gave the present to his scum partner and FF not being dead means he is the Godfather.

Forget it's me who is saying this. Think of it as a whisper in the dark. Doesn't it makes sense?

its a convoluted mess that takes the assumption that scum!hf claimed to give the present ff for like not fucking reason altogether.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 18 2014 07:59 GMT
#4002
Its a bad case GB.
Bad bad case.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 19 2014 01:42 GMT
#4164
On December 19 2014 10:07 sicklucker wrote:
Heres holyflares mafia strategy. Lynch a team mate or gb if he has the numbers he has the perfect excuse to change his vote and save himself. Tomorrow if templars lynched as town or mafia regardless he gets a free lynch on gb because he will kill two votes against himself. Then it will be lylo with 2 or 3 mafia with a potential kp present in there hands. He will have gained a little town cred in the process.

Complete speculation.

I hate complete speculation. You have completely nothing backing up this statement.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 19 2014 02:17 GMT
#4173
On December 19 2014 10:45 rsoultin wrote:
Oats, can we get some reads from you, please? I agree with a good number of your comments...but at the same time countering SL is kinda obvious anyway. The guy doesn't think.

hf 2bad2bescum
lian scum
vivax scum
gb not scum
xata scum.

about this for now yeah.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 19 2014 02:17 GMT
#4174
I dunno about tubesock, he seems super oblivious to the stuff that hes done.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 19 2014 14:40 GMT
#4228
On December 19 2014 23:20 Vivax wrote:
What I can criticize about HF's case is that it came at a time where people were already willing to vote Templar so it didn't exactly add much novelty. You could call it a nail in the coffin but it also looks a bit like overkill, something a scum HF could have done just cause he said he would write a huge wall of text case previously, and not something we really needed.

I didn't even read it lol, Templar is an easy gut-read at this point and before, based on my previous games with him.

Sorry HF I don't think I will ever feel confident enough to call you town after my past experiences, there are these interactions with scum that suggest townie but I fully trust you'd have the means of planting them on purpose.

Thats totally not true lol.
When HF made his case he had by far the most votes and to say that his case was the nail in the coffin is a huge understatement.

The tone of this post sounds weird, you are avoiding calling him town but your very attitude in the text implies that you think hes town.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 19 2014 16:32 GMT
#4254
On December 20 2014 01:28 GlowingBear wrote:
About the mass claiming: I'd rather have confirmed town shot and mafia lynched than a power role alive but a townie mislynched.

Power of vote > power roles.

(Thanks IAMP, btw)

There is no way to completely prove someone is lying or not GB.

That alone makes roleclaiming practically useless...
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 20 2014 02:22 GMT
#4544
That was a horrible lynch.
There was no reason to switch there wtf.

Almost everyone that switched was on the temp wagon just before.
If that doesnt convince you that temp is scum then I dont know what does.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 20 2014 03:56 GMT
#4555
I cant take this lian.
Pls dont.
Im dying
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 20 2014 04:50 GMT
#4557
If i was scum I wouldnt kill hf either.

Look at the nonsense that happens when he is on the chopping block.

The timing thing is totally irrelevant, nobody does that on purpose.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 20 2014 13:45 GMT
#4593
On December 20 2014 21:36 GlowingBear wrote:
Wow, Vivax is town...

Took me too long to realise, sorry.

I'm with you, Vivax. I think your analysis is informative. HTS, Xat and Templar makes a lot of sense.
But oats is playing this game so indifferently that it makes me shiver.
Maybe he is a possible 4 mafia?

you guys said so much useless shit man.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 20 2014 13:52 GMT
#4594
slam is super useless man.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 20 2014 18:18 GMT
#4599
On December 20 2014 23:28 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2014 22:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
On December 20 2014 21:36 GlowingBear wrote:
Wow, Vivax is town...

Took me too long to realise, sorry.

I'm with you, Vivax. I think your analysis is informative. HTS, Xat and Templar makes a lot of sense.
But oats is playing this game so indifferently that it makes me shiver.
Maybe he is a possible 4 mafia?

you guys said so much useless shit man.


Sorry, you have been extremely useful in this game, I'd love to play of your way

Yeah what a difference right.

man.

I kinda agree with your list vivax.
yeah ok seems alright.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 22 2014 15:51 GMT
#4848
Im so fucking busy.

But this hf read is badbadbabdbadbadbad
cant explain why.
But its bad.

#temp2014
##vote Temp
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