EPTTL Mafia LXIX: Carol Of The Bells - Page 232
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GlowingBear
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sicklucker
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On December 20 2014 21:36 GlowingBear wrote: Wow, Vivax is town... Took me too long to realise, sorry. I'm with you, Vivax. I think your analysis is informative. HTS, Xat and Templar makes a lot of sense. But oats is playing this game so indifferently that it makes me shiver. Maybe he is a possible 4 mafia? He just "sheeped" me on this but vivax is totally town anyway not sure how you didnt notice tbh?. And its just smart towns coming to the same obvious conclusions | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On December 04 2014 19:32 Palmar wrote: Nigella Lawson ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qo3YAqp.jpg) One of the best things about Christmas is the amazing food and the cozy atmosphere. Nigella is an expert at making delicious things. Nothing can break your spirit on a full stomach. In fact, the food is so good that once you've settled in you're not leaving for the night. Every night you can invite a player to share Christmas dinner with you. The player will be protected from harm during the night, but cannot take any action. Don't talk to me like I'm an idiot, please, GB. Clearly, clearly, Nigella acts as both a doctor and a roleblocker. I'm not high, thank you. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On December 21 2014 08:37 GlowingBear wrote: There is no possible world where nigella saves Xatalos Are you out of your mind? GB, it's default. Read the rules. You're confusing intent with result. Nigella, when she picks a target, roleblocks and protects them. Roleblocks resolve simultaneously. One of the best things about Christmas is the amazing food and the cozy atmosphere. Nigella is an expert at making delicious things. Nothing can break your spirit on a full stomach. In fact, the food is so good that once you've settled in you're not leaving for the night. Every night you can invite a player to share Christmas dinner with you. The player will be protected from harm during the night, but cannot take any action. Given the sheer number of people that scumread Xatalos, Nigella went in with the likely intent of RBing Xatalos. The fact that FF went after him only supports that at least two people (and more than two people in this thread said) had scumlisted Xatalos. Furthermore, only one person died. Very likely Xatalos is scum, especially in light of everything else brought forward prior to D5, but now these night actions make it almost open and shut. | ||
Fecalfeast
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
 Great minds think alike. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
We are taking about intentions, not mechanics | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
And Nigella, knowing that, could have chosen to protect FF. The only scum FF can potentially be is the Godfather. Although...him being the godfather can also explain the night actions nice and neat, and claiming to have shot at Xatalos is very believable given, as you said, several are scumreading him. | ||
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
On December 21 2014 08:46 GlowingBear wrote: You said "saved". You know what "saved" implies. We are taking about intentions, not mechanics Arguing over semantics is totally pro-town.... What's got you so upset, GB? | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On December 21 2014 08:46 GlowingBear wrote: You said "saved". You know what "saved" implies. We are taking about intentions, not mechanics You can talk about what you want to talk about, GB. I'm trying to consider the possibilities to narrow down the scum, rather than following pre-conceived notions and letting this inform my interpretation of everything. People in this game have a nasty habit of reading into the night kills too much and shaping them to meet their own expectations. | ||
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
On December 21 2014 08:48 rsoultin wrote: I'd rather Nigella confirm before we call it open and shut, personally. Since, as I said, scum RB blocking FF is a fairly strong possibility, too. He claimed to pass the present on, but no one claimed to receive it, so in terms of rolling the dice it's not a bad guess. And Nigella, knowing that, could have chosen to protect FF. The only scum FF can potentially be is the Godfather. Although...him being the godfather can also explain the night actions nice and neat, and claiming to have shot at Xatalos is very believable given, as you said, several are scumreading him. Well, if I was protected/blocked by nigella it means mafia decided to shoot me and means they probably don't have a roleblocker. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
Also im probably the save The night kills were super weird because mafia actually targeted confirmed towns. They did this because they didnt think there was a medic last night. Or me and xata were making so much sense. The medic is literally one of 2 or 3 people if slams vt claim is fake. So if your save is useful (someone im targeting) you should totally claim. The medic is one of lian or rstuin, with the only other claim id believe being slam. Im saying this because a fake medic claim is imminent and mafia knows its one of these 3 anyway. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
I'll let you determine which is more statistically likely. | ||
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
On December 21 2014 08:56 sicklucker wrote: The rb is more likely its not like they didnt know you had it?. I dont think are medic saves xata ever. Unless are medics one of the people im targeting or you got a save on one of them. Also im probably the save The night kills were super weird because mafia actually targeted confirmed towns. They did this because they didnt think there was a medic last night. Or me and xata were making so much sense. The medic is literally one of 2 or 3 people if slams vt claim is fake. So if your save is useful (someone im targeting) you should totally claim. The medic is one of lian or rstuin, with the only other claim id believe being slam. Im saying this because a fake medic claim is imminent and mafia knows its one of these 3 anyway. It's not a medic it's a jailkeeper. So RB on me is fine but why on earth do you think mafia was on you? | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On December 21 2014 08:56 sicklucker wrote: The rb is more likely its not like they didnt know you had it?. I dont think are medic saves xata ever. Unless are medics one of the people im targeting or you got a save on one of them. Also im probably the save The night kills were super weird because mafia actually targeted confirmed towns. They did this because they didnt think there was a medic last night. Or me and xata were making so much sense. The medic is literally one of 2 or 3 people if slams vt claim is fake. So if your save is useful (someone im targeting) you should totally claim. The medic is one of lian or rstuin, with the only other claim id believe being slam. Im saying this because a fake medic claim is imminent and mafia knows its one of these 3 anyway. Dude...no. Just plain no. You can't just dismiss the possibilities...and you are probably not going to be night killed while all these theories keep on flying out with so little logical basis. I know I'd let you run amuck forever if I were scum, even if you were trying to cast suspicion on me, just because people wouldn't listen to you. And stop speculating on who the medic is. It is up to the medic to decide to out themselves, if they were even involved. I don't even know where you're coming up with these names from. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
Or jailkeeper, as I guess the proper term is lol. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On December 21 2014 08:56 rsoultin wrote: They do have a roleblocker; they most likely blocked OWS the same night that they killed him, unless scum and OWS tried to shoot the same person who happened to be protecting said person. I'll let you determine which is more statistically likely. Or OWS could have shot into the veteran. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
Unless no one comes forward to help explain the night actions, there's no point even considering it. Back to just evaluating people's play. | ||
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Fecalfeast
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On December 15 2014 07:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Is there any chance we ever move past the Hf being scum line of thinking? Last post by OWS. He probably tried to shoot HF, especially given the rest of us were saying no, not until he flips. Anyone else think that's highly likely? | ||
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