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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 20 2014 23:43 GMT
#4621
By the way, saving is less likely since nigella would probably save Vivax, the most townie person at that moment
I'm adorable.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 20 2014 23:43 GMT
#4622
On December 20 2014 21:36 GlowingBear wrote:
Wow, Vivax is town...

Took me too long to realise, sorry.

I'm with you, Vivax. I think your analysis is informative. HTS, Xat and Templar makes a lot of sense.
But oats is playing this game so indifferently that it makes me shiver.
Maybe he is a possible 4 mafia?


He just "sheeped" me on this but vivax is totally town anyway not sure how you didnt notice tbh?. And its just smart towns coming to the same obvious conclusions
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 20 2014 23:44 GMT
#4623
On December 04 2014 19:32 Palmar wrote:
Nigella Lawson

[image loading]


One of the best things about Christmas is the amazing food and the cozy atmosphere. Nigella is an expert at making delicious things. Nothing can break your spirit on a full stomach. In fact, the food is so good that once you've settled in you're not leaving for the night.

Every night you can invite a player to share Christmas dinner with you. The player will be protected from harm during the night, but cannot take any action.


Don't talk to me like I'm an idiot, please, GB. Clearly, clearly, Nigella acts as both a doctor and a roleblocker. I'm not high, thank you.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 20 2014 23:45 GMT
#4624
On December 21 2014 08:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 08:31 rsoultin wrote:
Hm.

It is more likely that Nigella saved/RBd Xatalos than we had two interactions last night...


There is no possible world where nigella saves Xatalos

Are you out of your mind?


GB, it's default. Read the rules. You're confusing intent with result. Nigella, when she picks a target, roleblocks and protects them. Roleblocks resolve simultaneously.

One of the best things about Christmas is the amazing food and the cozy atmosphere. Nigella is an expert at making delicious things. Nothing can break your spirit on a full stomach. In fact, the food is so good that once you've settled in you're not leaving for the night.

Every night you can invite a player to share Christmas dinner with you. The player will be protected from harm during the night, but cannot take any action.


Given the sheer number of people that scumread Xatalos, Nigella went in with the likely intent of RBing Xatalos. The fact that FF went after him only supports that at least two people (and more than two people in this thread said) had scumlisted Xatalos.

Furthermore, only one person died. Very likely Xatalos is scum, especially in light of everything else brought forward prior to D5, but now these night actions make it almost open and shut.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 20 2014 23:45 GMT
#4625
I wish I was high
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 20 2014 23:46 GMT
#4626
Damn ninja Rasputin!

Great minds think alike.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 20 2014 23:46 GMT
#4627
You said "saved". You know what "saved" implies.

We are taking about intentions, not mechanics
I'm adorable.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 20 2014 23:48 GMT
#4628
I'd rather Nigella confirm before we call it open and shut, personally. Since, as I said, scum RB blocking FF is a fairly strong possibility, too. He claimed to pass the present on, but no one claimed to receive it, so in terms of rolling the dice it's not a bad guess.

And Nigella, knowing that, could have chosen to protect FF. The only scum FF can potentially be is the Godfather. Although...him being the godfather can also explain the night actions nice and neat, and claiming to have shot at Xatalos is very believable given, as you said, several are scumreading him.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 20 2014 23:49 GMT
#4629
On December 21 2014 08:46 GlowingBear wrote:
You said "saved". You know what "saved" implies.

We are taking about intentions, not mechanics

Arguing over semantics is totally pro-town.... What's got you so upset, GB?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 20 2014 23:51 GMT
#4630
On December 21 2014 08:46 GlowingBear wrote:
You said "saved". You know what "saved" implies.

We are taking about intentions, not mechanics


You can talk about what you want to talk about, GB. I'm trying to consider the possibilities to narrow down the scum, rather than following pre-conceived notions and letting this inform my interpretation of everything. People in this game have a nasty habit of reading into the night kills too much and shaping them to meet their own expectations.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 20 2014 23:54 GMT
#4631
On December 21 2014 08:48 rsoultin wrote:
I'd rather Nigella confirm before we call it open and shut, personally. Since, as I said, scum RB blocking FF is a fairly strong possibility, too. He claimed to pass the present on, but no one claimed to receive it, so in terms of rolling the dice it's not a bad guess.

And Nigella, knowing that, could have chosen to protect FF. The only scum FF can potentially be is the Godfather. Although...him being the godfather can also explain the night actions nice and neat, and claiming to have shot at Xatalos is very believable given, as you said, several are scumreading him.


Well, if I was protected/blocked by nigella it means mafia decided to shoot me and means they probably don't have a roleblocker.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 20 2014 23:56 GMT
#4632
The rb is more likely its not like they didnt know you had it?. I dont think are medic saves xata ever. Unless are medics one of the people im targeting or you got a save on one of them.

Also im probably the save

The night kills were super weird because mafia actually targeted confirmed towns. They did this because they didnt think there was a medic last night. Or me and xata were making so much sense. The medic is literally one of 2 or 3 people if slams vt claim is fake. So if your save is useful (someone im targeting) you should totally claim.

The medic is one of lian or rstuin, with the only other claim id believe being slam. Im saying this because a fake medic claim is imminent and mafia knows its one of these 3 anyway.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 20 2014 23:56 GMT
#4633
They do have a roleblocker; they most likely blocked OWS the same night that they killed him, unless scum and OWS tried to shoot the same person who happened to be protecting said person.

I'll let you determine which is more statistically likely.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 20 2014 23:59 GMT
#4634
On December 21 2014 08:56 sicklucker wrote:
The rb is more likely its not like they didnt know you had it?. I dont think are medic saves xata ever. Unless are medics one of the people im targeting or you got a save on one of them.

Also im probably the save

The night kills were super weird because mafia actually targeted confirmed towns. They did this because they didnt think there was a medic last night. Or me and xata were making so much sense. The medic is literally one of 2 or 3 people if slams vt claim is fake. So if your save is useful (someone im targeting) you should totally claim.

The medic is one of lian or rstuin, with the only other claim id believe being slam. Im saying this because a fake medic claim is imminent and mafia knows its one of these 3 anyway.


It's not a medic it's a jailkeeper. So RB on me is fine but why on earth do you think mafia was on you?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 21 2014 00:00 GMT
#4635
On December 21 2014 08:56 sicklucker wrote:
The rb is more likely its not like they didnt know you had it?. I dont think are medic saves xata ever. Unless are medics one of the people im targeting or you got a save on one of them.

Also im probably the save

The night kills were super weird because mafia actually targeted confirmed towns. They did this because they didnt think there was a medic last night. Or me and xata were making so much sense. The medic is literally one of 2 or 3 people if slams vt claim is fake. So if your save is useful (someone im targeting) you should totally claim.

The medic is one of lian or rstuin, with the only other claim id believe being slam. Im saying this because a fake medic claim is imminent and mafia knows its one of these 3 anyway.


Dude...no. Just plain no. You can't just dismiss the possibilities...and you are probably not going to be night killed while all these theories keep on flying out with so little logical basis. I know I'd let you run amuck forever if I were scum, even if you were trying to cast suspicion on me, just because people wouldn't listen to you.

And stop speculating on who the medic is. It is up to the medic to decide to out themselves, if they were even involved. I don't even know where you're coming up with these names from.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 21 2014 00:01 GMT
#4636
EBWOP:
Or jailkeeper, as I guess the proper term is lol.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 21 2014 00:01 GMT
#4637
On December 21 2014 08:56 rsoultin wrote:
They do have a roleblocker; they most likely blocked OWS the same night that they killed him, unless scum and OWS tried to shoot the same person who happened to be protecting said person.

I'll let you determine which is more statistically likely.


Or OWS could have shot into the veteran.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 21 2014 00:04 GMT
#4638
Meh lol >< also true. So yeah, basically we have no idea what we're dealing with. Lovely. It turns into whether or not you believe FF, but even then, him being blocked doesn't prove that Xata is scum.

Unless no one comes forward to help explain the night actions, there's no point even considering it. Back to just evaluating people's play.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 21 2014 00:07 GMT
#4639
If JK blocked Xata he's basically confirmed scum barring the situation where mafia and I stacked KP on someone being scumread. Since I know I'm not lying I think it's fine to speculate on the night actions.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 21 2014 00:08 GMT
#4640
On December 15 2014 07:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Is there any chance we ever move past the Hf being scum line of thinking?


Last post by OWS. He probably tried to shoot HF, especially given the rest of us were saying no, not until he flips.

Anyone else think that's highly likely?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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