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On December 21 2014 08:54 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 08:48 rsoultin wrote:
I'd rather Nigella confirm before we call it open and shut, personally. Since, as I said, scum RB blocking FF is a fairly strong possibility, too. He claimed to pass the present on, but no one claimed to receive it, so in terms of rolling the dice it's not a bad guess.
And Nigella, knowing that, could have chosen to protect FF. The only scum FF can potentially be is the Godfather. Although...him being the godfather can also explain the night actions nice and neat, and claiming to have shot at Xatalos is very believable given, as you said, several are scumreading him. Well, if I was protected/blocked by nigella it means mafia decided to shoot me and means they probably don't have a roleblocker.
And by saying this its down to 2 if my mafia list is right lol. I think the best strat for the medic is to not claim till the last second and save the other medic suspect. They have to kill you both in theory so if they dont rb you its a 25% chance save?
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Only 1 death :O I guess we are at Square 1 for today.
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if the medic is one of xata,templar,hts,oats just come out now tho. You pretty much give us auto and your gonna die tonight anyway
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Shenaniganing all over the place because you were "drunk" and wanted to "make people mad" doesn't exactly inspire confidence, FF. So I'm not going to dismiss the possibility that you're the godfather just yet.
Claiming the KS and a shot at Xatalos are the easiest lies for scum, given scum has KSs anyway and Xata was the one in everyone's crosshairs after yesterday.
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On December 21 2014 09:08 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 07:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Is there any chance we ever move past the Hf being scum line of thinking? Last post by OWS. He probably tried to shoot HF, especially given the rest of us were saying no, not until he flips. Anyone else think that's highly likely?
LoneMeow the Carol Singer is dead dead to mafia kp
kushm4sta the Scrooge is dead dead to marley
Damdred the Joyful Child is dead dead to present
Koshi the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead dead to mafia kp
Kitaman27 the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead dead to mafia kp
mafia kp includes mass murderer which checks out but basically confirms damdred was killed by a present.
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On December 20 2014 23:03 Vivax wrote:
Not that it matters cause now I'll just stubbornly lynch Templar->Xata-> HTS without going back to reading anything, idgaf since that tubesock lynch.
Gonna have to go back on my word earlier and agree with this
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On December 21 2014 09:15 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 09:08 rsoultin wrote:On December 15 2014 07:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Is there any chance we ever move past the Hf being scum line of thinking? Last post by OWS. He probably tried to shoot HF, especially given the rest of us were saying no, not until he flips. Anyone else think that's highly likely? LoneMeow the Carol Singer is dead dead to mafia kp
kushm4sta the Scrooge is dead dead to marley
Damdred the Joyful Child is dead dead to present
Koshi the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead dead to mafia kp
Kitaman27 the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead dead to mafia kp mafia kp includes mass murderer which checks out but basically confirms damdred was killed by a present.
Nope. Nope. And nope.
It was clarified that the Branch Manager can in fact shoot at unclaimed Disgruntled Retail Workers.
There is still a possibility of Marley, made a much stronger possibility now that we've confirmed for certain there was a Ghost.
They also definitely had the MM.
So nope. There is nothing that guarantees Damdred was killed by a present. ><
Also, what does that have to do with whether or not OWS took a shot at HF night 2?
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On December 21 2014 09:15 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 09:08 rsoultin wrote:On December 15 2014 07:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Is there any chance we ever move past the Hf being scum line of thinking? Last post by OWS. He probably tried to shoot HF, especially given the rest of us were saying no, not until he flips. Anyone else think that's highly likely? LoneMeow the Carol Singer is dead dead to mafia kp
kushm4sta the Scrooge is dead dead to marley
Damdred the Joyful Child is dead dead to present
Koshi the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead dead to mafia kp
Kitaman27 the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead dead to mafia kp mafia kp includes mass murderer which checks out but basically confirms damdred was killed by a present.
I forget it's been decided that the branch manager can shoot randomly so that adds the possibility the bomb wasn't pened. my bad
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On December 21 2014 08:08 GlowingBear wrote:
NO
NONONONO
WHY!!!!!
He was playing good like srs
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On December 21 2014 09:17 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 09:15 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 21 2014 09:08 rsoultin wrote:On December 15 2014 07:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Is there any chance we ever move past the Hf being scum line of thinking? Last post by OWS. He probably tried to shoot HF, especially given the rest of us were saying no, not until he flips. Anyone else think that's highly likely? LoneMeow the Carol Singer is dead dead to mafia kp
kushm4sta the Scrooge is dead dead to marley
Damdred the Joyful Child is dead dead to present
Koshi the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead dead to mafia kp
Kitaman27 the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead dead to mafia kp mafia kp includes mass murderer which checks out but basically confirms damdred was killed by a present. Nope. Nope. And nope. It was clarified that the Branch Manager can in fact shoot at unclaimed Disgruntled Retail Workers. There is still a possibility of Marley, made a much stronger possibility now that we've confirmed for certain there was a Ghost. They also definitely had the MM. So nope. There is nothing that guarantees Damdred was killed by a present. >< Also, what does that have to do with whether or not OWS took a shot at HF night 2?
I was speculating as to how the night kills went down if we assume OWS hit the snowman. I forgot we had the branch manager shot question answered
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FF, you might be wrong on that. LS posted the following during EoD.
On December 20 2014 06:35 LightningStrike wrote:
I talked to the cohost and he told me that the Branch Manager can shoot non claimed Disgruntled Workers too at a lucky guess if the person they shot wasn't a Disgruntled Person the shot would fail and they loose the bullet
Rasputin, I could definitely see HF being the vet. He did claim a red role, although Liancourt posted something much earlier about being the snowman D1, so I could see him shooting Lian too. Did he mention anything about Lian?
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I don't like this auto talk, for srs.
There is nothing auto about a game that still has 12 players, and at least 2 scum. Vivax was throwing a fit and basing his reads off said fit. It would be foolish to just kill the three on the Tubesock wagon, disregarding all other information, simply because LS claimed and ppl think I'm an idiot town.
Probably one scum was on there, but I highly doubt the entire team was. That sort of reasoning is just ridiculous. Unless you think all the other possible wagons were scum, that is ridiculous.
You have to base your lynch decisions off more than that. Or don't. Then I can call all of you guys donkeys, too, when it most likely goes south because you're not even considering other possibilities.
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On December 21 2014 09:24 rsoultin wrote:
I don't like this auto talk, for srs.
There is nothing auto about a game that still has 12 players, and at least 2 scum. Vivax was throwing a fit and basing his reads off said fit. It would be foolish to just kill the three on the Tubesock wagon, disregarding all other information, simply because LS claimed and ppl think I'm an idiot town.
Probably one scum was on there, but I highly doubt the entire team was. That sort of reasoning is just ridiculous. Unless you think all the other possible wagons were scum, that is ridiculous.
You have to base your lynch decisions off more than that. Or don't. Then I can call all of you guys donkeys, too, when it most likely goes south because you're not even considering other possibilities.
Who are your top 3 lynches for today?
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I still like Oats for it. He's done nothing the entire game.
I'd lynch Templar right now, too. He was strangely particular about who he'd vote for to save himself. Not alignment indicative, but his play has been underwhelming throughout the game.
HF is a consideration, also. It would really inform what are now two wagons on him.
I'm sidelining GB for awhile to watch how he decides to continue to play, but he's not townlisted for me yet, that's for sure.
I'm also suspicious of FF, given how haphazard he was playing yesterday.
Xata I'm not sure of. You guys keep bringing up that his reasons for voting people are crap, but I didn't find them particularly bad, myself.
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I up for a Templar lynch if anyone wants to go for it.
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To add to Rasputin's point, the vote spread from D4 (5-4-5) generally means there's no accountability in the voting, and the chances of scum being dispersed on multiple wagons is likely.
The sentiment to go to Tubesock was based on 1) not having the votes for GB 2) having last second thoughts on Templar and 3) not wanting to get HF killed.
FF - I'll put it out there, after N4: Templar, Xata, Oats.
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On December 21 2014 09:31 LightningStrike wrote:
I up for a Templar lynch if anyone wants to go for it.
All things considered, it's likely. And after last night's disaster we need to get this right.
##vote Templar
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On December 21 2014 09:29 rsoultin wrote:
I still like Oats for it. He's done nothing the entire game.
I'd lynch Templar right now, too. He was strangely particular about who he'd vote for to save himself. Not alignment indicative, but his play has been underwhelming throughout the game.
HF is a consideration, also. It would really inform what are now two wagons on him.
I'm sidelining GB for awhile to watch how he decides to continue to play, but he's not townlisted for me yet, that's for sure.
I'm also suspicious of FF, given how haphazard he was playing yesterday.
Xata I'm not sure of. You guys keep bringing up that his reasons for voting people are crap, but I didn't find them particularly bad, myself.
Okay so tell me if my interpretation is wrong
Oats is scum because he has been inactive
Templar is scum because his play has been underwhelming
HF isn't scum for any reason but killing him would explain why other people read him scum
GB is null(leanscum?) but you don't want to lynch because he may try harder
I am haphazard by nature, no comment
Xata thrown in for no reason since you null read him
Do you have any full-on scum reads or is everyone a question mark to you?
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Aaaaaaand I'm drunk.
Alright, listen.
We've discuss a lot about HF and we couldn't get him lynched easily. We almost said everything that has to be said about him. I don't think we should waste more breath about him TODAY. We have to catch the other scum.
By the way, is there someone firmly believing that HF is town? This is important so please answer me.
Now, I believe we should follow Vivax reads because (1) I agreed with him and (2) we now know he is confirmed town.
Considering this, I believe we should lynch Xatalos
Why Xatalos instead of oats? Because he wasn't firmly mafia read by Vivax, because he was town read by obi, and because HF, one possible scum, also list him as mafia. I'm aware HF also lists Xatalos, but there are these two that didn't cite/townreads oats. I don't want to risk the game on him yet.
I don't believe nigella would protect FF because he could be godfather and I don't believe nigella would block Xatalos because he wasn't actually the top scumread. But I really think nigella would try to roleblock a possible mafia because top town was Vivax at that moment.
I also want you to remember that ff is only SOFT CONFIRMED, because Santa didn't explicitly said he had a green check.
Nigella, don't out anymore. You'll be important night5, specially if we lynch scum and if you roleblock one mafia.
Like, consider this: if there is only 3 scum left and we lynch one now, you'll try to roleblock a possible mafia and if only one kp goes through the night, you have a confirmed mafia.
So, lynch Xatalos.
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