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On December 21 2014 12:01 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 11:59 sicklucker wrote:On December 21 2014 08:20 Half the Sky wrote:On December 21 2014 08:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
OK so I opened the present. It was the gun which I pointed at xatalos. Bullet's not refunded so there's no point keeping quiet about it now. Possible scenarios: 1 You got roleblocked by scum RB since you announced the present, if scum have an RB. 2 You used KP against Xatalos. But obviously he's not dead. Nigella might have roleblocked him thinking he was scum, and saved whoever Xatalos was going to kill. As a result though Nigella also protects so that's another theory why the bullet didn't go through. #2 is plausible given the number of people that scumread Xatalos. IMO makes him look really bad right now. Its diffently #1 anyone following this game knows that hes trying to confuse us. How am I trying to confuse anyone?
Its hts you drunk still?
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On December 21 2014 09:29 rsoultin wrote:
I still like Oats for it. He's done nothing the entire game.
I'd lynch Templar right now, too. He was strangely particular about who he'd vote for to save himself. Not alignment indicative, but his play has been underwhelming throughout the game.
You mean people that I read scum?
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FF's shot never goes through ever because we know they have a rb so number two can never happen. Hts is just posting fluff never any reads EVER
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On December 21 2014 12:04 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 12:01 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 21 2014 11:59 sicklucker wrote:On December 21 2014 08:20 Half the Sky wrote:On December 21 2014 08:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
OK so I opened the present. It was the gun which I pointed at xatalos. Bullet's not refunded so there's no point keeping quiet about it now. Possible scenarios: 1 You got roleblocked by scum RB since you announced the present, if scum have an RB. 2 You used KP against Xatalos. But obviously he's not dead. Nigella might have roleblocked him thinking he was scum, and saved whoever Xatalos was going to kill. As a result though Nigella also protects so that's another theory why the bullet didn't go through. #2 is plausible given the number of people that scumread Xatalos. IMO makes him look really bad right now. Its diffently #1 anyone following this game knows that hes trying to confuse us. How am I trying to confuse anyone? Its hts you drunk still?
I've not been drunk this game. The phrase 'drunk on power' is a saying that implies I was getting a rush from the fact that everyone followed my shenannie.
Why reply to her post and yet use a pronoun other than 'you?' It looked to me like you were replying to HTS' post and telling her that I am trying to confuse people
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On December 21 2014 11:56 sicklucker wrote:Like shes already voted without saying anything. How is this not mafia based on her last game play? Even me and hf put aside are differences and both agree shes mafia. Like think about that for a second
Okay, SL. I read some of your earlier stuff on HTS. You brought up her filter, saying it's shorter this game than it was in our other game.
Student Mafia, after 6 full days, she had 12 pages. Carolers, we're just starting the 5th day. She has 12. That is invalid.
You say she hasn't talked about Templar. She has. She's been scumreading him for days. She didn't talk about him today before she voted, but it is definitely not an unexplained change in her reads, and he was also on her 3-person lynch list that she stated today. That point is also invalid.
Do you have others?
Also...you keep assuming that people are going to automatically do what you tell them to. Just because you told Nigella to protect OWS, and she didn't, does not mean there is no Nigella. I don't understand how you fail to see this.
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On December 21 2014 12:05 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 09:29 rsoultin wrote:
I still like Oats for it. He's done nothing the entire game.
I'd lynch Templar right now, too. He was strangely particular about who he'd vote for to save himself. Not alignment indicative, but his play has been underwhelming throughout the game.
You mean people that I read scum?
Please give us your reads. I don't remember you having any but Tube, which is one of the reasons I said that wasn't alignment indicative.
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On December 21 2014 12:15 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 11:56 sicklucker wrote:On December 21 2014 09:34 Half the Sky wrote:
##Vote The_Templar Like shes already voted without saying anything. How is this not mafia based on her last game play? Even me and hf put aside are differences and both agree shes mafia. Like think about that for a second Okay, SL. I read some of your earlier stuff on HTS. You brought up her filter, saying it's shorter this game than it was in our other game. Student Mafia, after 6 full days, she had 12 pages. Carolers, we're just starting the 5th day. She has 12. That is invalid. You say she hasn't talked about Templar. She has. She's been scumreading him for days. She didn't talk about him today before she voted, but it is definitely not an unexplained change in her reads, and he was also on her 3-person lynch list that she stated today. That point is also invalid. Do you have others? Also...you keep assuming that people are going to automatically do what you tell them to. Just because you told Nigella to protect OWS, and she didn't, does not mean there is no Nigella. I don't understand how you fail to see this.
EBWOP:
The bolded should read 9.
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@Slam
I'm playing a hunch, here. Could you please give me your reads on Xata, Oats and GB? Much appreciated ^^
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On December 21 2014 12:15 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 11:56 sicklucker wrote:On December 21 2014 09:34 Half the Sky wrote:
##Vote The_Templar Like shes already voted without saying anything. How is this not mafia based on her last game play? Even me and hf put aside are differences and both agree shes mafia. Like think about that for a second Okay, SL. I read some of your earlier stuff on HTS. You brought up her filter, saying it's shorter this game than it was in our other game. Student Mafia, after 6 full days, she had 12 pages. Carolers, we're just starting the 5th day. She has 12. That is invalid. You say she hasn't talked about Templar. She has. She's been scumreading him for days. She didn't talk about him today before she voted, but it is definitely not an unexplained change in her reads, and he was also on her 3-person lynch list that she stated today. That point is also invalid. Do you have others? Also...you keep assuming that people are going to automatically do what you tell them to. Just because you told Nigella to protect OWS, and she didn't, does not mean there is no Nigella. I don't understand how you fail to see this.
What about how she town read tube then voted for him out of nowhere?
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Also you cant compair the filters from this to campus. This has had 10x more content so I expect her content to be 10x more. Also that game was auto and she or anyone else barely talked at the en so her 12 page filter was really from like 3 days.
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rsoultin why cant you just agree with me for once your always pushing your own agenda. You dont even have to vote her you just gotta say "ya ill vote her in the next 3 votes" and ill be happy. The order doesint really matter.
Your not seeing the obvious scum that followed your horrible lynch yesterday is what worry me. You said you would take a step back can you please follow up on that. Mafias taking you to final 3 at this point.
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On December 21 2014 14:08 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 12:15 rsoultin wrote:On December 21 2014 11:56 sicklucker wrote:On December 21 2014 09:34 Half the Sky wrote:
##Vote The_Templar Like shes already voted without saying anything. How is this not mafia based on her last game play? Even me and hf put aside are differences and both agree shes mafia. Like think about that for a second Okay, SL. I read some of your earlier stuff on HTS. You brought up her filter, saying it's shorter this game than it was in our other game. Student Mafia, after 6 full days, she had 12 pages. Carolers, we're just starting the 5th day. She has 12. That is invalid. You say she hasn't talked about Templar. She has. She's been scumreading him for days. She didn't talk about him today before she voted, but it is definitely not an unexplained change in her reads, and he was also on her 3-person lynch list that she stated today. That point is also invalid. Do you have others? Also...you keep assuming that people are going to automatically do what you tell them to. Just because you told Nigella to protect OWS, and she didn't, does not mean there is no Nigella. I don't understand how you fail to see this. What about how she town read tube then voted for him out of nowhere?
Eh, that was my fault. I'm taking full responsibility for the shenanigans yesterday, particularly in regard to hts, xata and ls, who were willing to switch with me wherever, as opposed to FF and Templar who were more selective. Not saying the first three shouldn't be looked at, but judging them solely on the shenanigans...that was my fault.
Make that four days and you'd be more accurate. The point is she's playing, and there's not a significant enough difference in her filter length for that alone to be a good enough reason to lynch her. She and I are both pretty damn new, and I know that the sheer number of people here is a little intimidating (not to mention confusing) to me.
Does your meta case include anything that isn't just filter length?
I don't see where she townread Tube. Last two posts that mentioned him were her giving him the benefit of the doubt and the comment that she wasn't sure if his disappearance was significant or he was just new. That reads null to me.
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On December 21 2014 14:19 sicklucker wrote:
rsoultin why cant you just agree with me for once your always pushing your own agenda. You dont even have to vote her you just gotta say "ya ill vote her in the next 3 votes" and ill be happy. The order doesint really matter.
Your not seeing the obvious scum that followed your horrible lynch yesterday is what worry me. You said you would take a step back can you please follow up on that. Mafias taking you to final 3 at this point.
I'm not pushing my own agenda, SL -_-
If you're asking me to scumread one of my townreads, of course I'm going to ask you why. I want to know what I'm missing. I know that it seems like I just argue with you, but I can't get on board for most of the things you talk about. Set-up speculation, presents, night kills...those things aren't evidence for me. Number of posts isn't evidence for me. Facts that aren't facts aren't evidence for me.
I don't know how to explain this properly. I'm considering Xata as possible scum right now, but still on the fence. I do think Templar is scum. I am not so stubborn that I'm going to refuse to vote HTS no matter what happens. All I can tell you is that right now, she is not someone I would vote for. I do not see the "obvious" that you do. So if you could help me see it without getting upset, that would be helpful.
I will never, as town, say that I will absolutely refuse to vote any particular player for the rest of the game, unless there's a very good reason for me to say so (i.e. they're acting super town and also have a green check from a confirmed seer).
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Also, just for the record, the fact that I'm even willing to vote HF today and am not pushing GB at all is a step back. A step back does not necessarily mean that I will just sheep whatever you say/do -_- I'm not sure why you're so intent on me agreeing with you, anyway.
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On December 21 2014 13:14 rsoultin wrote:
@Slam
I'm playing a hunch, here. Could you please give me your reads on Xata, Oats and GB? Much appreciated ^^
Xata null oats scummy GB mood swing, usually townie.
Concise.
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On December 21 2014 19:19 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 13:14 rsoultin wrote:
@Slam
I'm playing a hunch, here. Could you please give me your reads on Xata, Oats and GB? Much appreciated ^^ Xata null oats scummy GB mood swing, usually townie. Concise.
I can't understand how you find Xata null.
Reasons would be awesome 
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Hmmm... I'm not sure what happened to me at night, but I think FF would have been a decently likely RB target after claiming the present. I don't know if I was protected either (at least I didn't receive any notification of being protected/attacked, but then again, I don't think you receive many notifications in this setup? so it's a possibility). It's also possible that a Veteran was attacked or something. Whatever. There are too many unknowns to conclude anything at this point, I think.
By the way, why did you even shoot me FF? Am I really your top scumread? How come?
On December 21 2014 09:54 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 09:48 Fecalfeast wrote:
Well I wanted him dead last night anyway
##vote Xatalos Works for me.
Where did this vote come from? Just from action speculation...? Ugh.
GB: I'll admit that I haven't been as involved in this game compared to my last couple of games. It's a combination of some IRL stuff (Christmas is approaching + two university deadlines), the posting restrictions and the fact that I've been mostly wrong about my reads so far. It reminds me a bit of this game ( http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/440546-golden-sun-the-lost-age-mafia-djinn-edition?user=Xatalos ) - although in that game I trolled a lot which is impossible here considering the posting restrictions.
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Hmm... Dunno about HTS. SL, do you have further arguments than some meta comparison or her slightly sheepish/fluffy attitude? I don't think her posts have been that bad in recent days.
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I think it's pretty likely that there were scum in yesterday's lynch candidates considering how even they all were. Since Tubesock flipped town and HF is more likely town than scum (IMO), I think Templar may be the best lynch today... GB is probably impossible too since even rsoultin seems willing to give him a chance for the time being. We'll see what he'll do.
##Vote The_Templar
Oats may well be scum as well. He's also very apathetic and hasn't really contributed anything recently...
Undecided on HTS. I think she's probably not a good lynch for now though.
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Oh, it might even be LYLO right now? Then I think we definitely shouldn't lynch for "information" or something equally stupid. Let's just lynch the player with the highest chance of flipping scum. Probably Templar... But luckily there's still quite a bit of time left to make that decision.
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