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On November 25 2014 02:29 marvellosity wrote:

so effectively you're too much of a pussy to play with competent players who fight their corner.

Gotcha

On November 27 2014 04:01 Holyflare wrote:
I think the people that roll mafia will be pretty demotivated in this game. Ezpz game

On November 27 2014 09:19 marvellosity wrote:
not even if i'm mafia bbz?

On November 27 2014 11:00 geript wrote:
No my question is valid HF. Do you really think there's a scum team that doesn't include any of those 5? Like there's at least 6 people in this game who are wholly capable of hard carrying as scum. Odds of no vets being mafia, aka scrub scum team, is quite low. idk if shaopi rng's or get balances. Like there are only a handful of people who shit bricks when they roll mafia.

Look HF. I'm not saying your point on him not being around considering deadline isn't interesting. My point is the scared shitless argument is crap and you know it.

On November 27 2014 11:20 Holyflare wrote:
He's a twat face in general yes

On November 28 2014 01:51 Holyflare wrote:
Like you'd ever have a reason to move your vote

On November 28 2014 02:08 marvellosity wrote:

well, you've made me happier with my vote I guess?

On November 28 2014 02:25 marvellosity wrote:

Well, that's on you babe.

On November 28 2014 06:32 marvellosity wrote:
easy to keep a short filter when you're lynched d1 broski

On November 28 2014 07:40 marvellosity wrote:

twice you've said this "either way" thing. what are the multiple ways of me having/not having my vote on you?

On November 28 2014 07:58 marvellosity wrote:
dw he'll flip mafioso

am bussing

On November 28 2014 09:49 marvellosity wrote:
there is no pre-justification

you have a bunch of posts now and there's not a single townie thing in any of them.

On November 28 2014 09:50 GlowingBear wrote:
WoS, deer, give reeds pls

On November 27 2014 08:36 geript wrote:
Mental reminder. Wave subtle joke.

On November 28 2014 02:11 geript wrote:
##unvite
##vote:waveofshadow
You have my sword Marv. That Superbia post just feels bad to me.

On November 28 2014 09:53 marvellosity wrote:

yes. because i mean townie as in wave-townie.

usually you blabber on like an indecisive fool which is pretty scummy except it's townie for you.

On November 28 2014 09:53 marvellosity wrote:

yes. because i mean townie as in wave-townie.

usually you blabber on like an indecisive fool which is pretty scummy except it's townie for you.

On November 28 2014 10:10 marvellosity wrote:

lol, what? your argument is you can't be mafia here because i've not lynched you before?

rofl

i don't remember the last time i actually townread you when you were mafia

On November 28 2014 10:24 marvellosity wrote:
lol when did wave turn into such an ass

On November 28 2014 10:29 marvellosity wrote:
what happened in that game?

On November 28 2014 10:34 geript wrote:
Wubby can we get on the same page? Like all I want from you is to participate. You hate lurkers just as much as I do. Like you doing idk wtf you were doing is and was super annoying. Like I'm not even quite sure what your exact read on me is.

You're right that HF could be mafia here, but it's pretty impossible to tell until he makes a push to lynch. I'm actually kinda tempted to lynch Dandred as a measure of HF. Like can't you at least give 3 straight forward reads so we can get a read on you.

On November 28 2014 10:56 marvellosity wrote:
no we can't, because it's relevant to a read on GB currently. He's pushing some ridiculous shit right now.

On November 27 2014 12:58 GlowingBear wrote:


You are hard to read. I've only discovered a way to read you after hearthstone, mostly.

But anyway, I'm analysing you post objectively. It sues Serbs that it's coming from a town perspective.

I'm really going to sleep now m.

On November 27 2014 20:48 GlowingBear wrote:


Hm, sorry, I may have missed it. I was very sleepy.

I'm gonna read your post again, but I don't believe Sno has got anything indicative yet. Just started the game with jokes, which is also null

On November 27 2014 21:09 GlowingBear wrote:


I haven't got much. I don't really like the reason he is pushing you, but I believe he is just pushing to get you talking, and that's mostly townie. Same with HF. I don't really believe he has that solid scum read on you.

On November 27 2014 22:53 GlowingBear wrote:


I'm planning on making this thread happen.
Because it's page 23 and it didn't happen until now.

On November 28 2014 11:02 GlowingBear wrote:


It's likely. Your discussion with WoS had nothing prolific to town. All it was was you saying WoS is scum because he is demotivated and WoS saying that your ego is boring, over and over again. The. You Unvote him because he is demotivated. Makes no sense.

Also marv, I have seen very active, but I haven't seen you actually trying to solve the game. You're just engaging arguments for the sake of arguing, but not drawing any conclusions.

Also, when Superbia pushed me, you felt he was town but you were not convinced with what he brought. It means you're kinda hesitating into reading me as scum. Instead of pushing me or him, you engaged an useless discussion with WoS. I kept discussing with Superbia but you didn't seem to care. It's strange, though, because you are not certain of my alignment.

On November 28 2014 11:05 geript wrote:

I'm dog sitting for a friend. Both dogs I've known since about a year old. Both are really affectionate. One has hip problems so she needs specific, pills, exercise and massage. So I usually don't have a free hand unless they're napping.

On November 28 2014 11:09 geript wrote:

I disagree. Wave is I don't know lie he doesn't live so he gets to be pretty easy to read a lot of times. I've actually found waves posting to be pretty useful and indicative but I think it's town. Will unvote when I can.

On November 28 2014 11:27 geript wrote:

No. I had no strong inclination as to what you were. I found it weird that you were doing nothing. Like usually you do something. I didn't think Marv wanted to lynch you either. I just figured it would light a fire and if it didn't then no loss.

On November 28 2014 11:41 geript wrote:
Right now I'm thinking about GB. He had the early tow read on Obi that seemed meh. The recent stuff of his has bugged me too but that was from following instead of reading so I want to catch up on that. Damdrd kinda bugs me because he's a bit more active as town and I think he'd be super excited to play and post if Elvis rolled town. Palmer is palmering. I know I'm forgetting other stuff.
What do you think of HF?

On November 27 2014 18:19 justanothertownie wrote:



1) Since when am I afraid to post as scum? Horseshit. The lineup in heavyweight wasn't really that much worse than this one.
2) If I was there in the mafia qt why would I not simply post something in the thread. Ah, I forgot. Cos I'm afraid...
3) I wasn't around for game start in several of my towngames. The only thing you can conclude from that is that I am absent/asleep whatever.

Yes, I said the deadline is nice for me. Because it is. Often times deadline is much later than this midnight deadline for me. It makes it possible to stay up when it gets important but I don't see why you think I would keep myself awake after midnight just for the start of the game.


I am not believing for a second that this is your read on me.

I also don't believe this at all.

So Holyflare is pushing something that isn't scummy really hard here. If he keeps doing that then he is probably mafia by his own selfmeta.

Oh, btw. don't you think that is much more scummy to be here in the thread without posting anything even remotely useful than to be completely absent? Like marv did for example?

On November 27 2014 10:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
You're trying too hard bbygrl

On November 28 2014 11:55 geript wrote:
I think HF has a decent shot at being town. Like he's really easy to read once he gets around to pushing a lynch. I don't think he's the lynch for today.

On November 28 2014 12:01 geript wrote:
JAT and GB seem really weird to me. Like jat's whole response re: Ryan's response seems nonsensical. Like he's more concerned with how people (specifically Marv) see him rather than proving things one way or another. It reminds me of panicked thinking more than "I've caught obv scum lying."

On November 28 2014 12:05 GlowingBear wrote:
Btw WoS sounds completely different from the guilty mafia WoS. You're subduing much more townish here.
It's marv I'm not liking.

On November 28 2014 12:08 GlowingBear wrote:


I'm saying that you sound different from that game. If I caught you or not is not in question

On November 28 2014 12:49 Damdred wrote:
@GB, when you get back talk to me more about your marv misgivings there really isn't much in your filter about why hes scummy besides you don't see him trying to solve the game in the way you want him to. Could you point out some things in his filter to me that you think points to scum marv and a scum mindset rather than town marv?

@Wave, Who would you want to lynch right now if you could and all of us would sheep you onto it?

On November 28 2014 13:16 Damdred wrote:


I powered through the thread so I could of missed something or forgotten it but yes I am

On November 28 2014 13:31 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:

Well if I was a vig I'd shoot you on the hunch that Elvis's different posting and you looking like you're taking the easy way out with your reads means you filled in the scum slot.

There's of course the case where you're town, but I'll consider that when I get home.

I like JAT because the stick shoved three feet up his ass is securely in place, which at least gives him consistency points.

That's all I got rn

On November 28 2014 14:10 geript wrote:
@Wave. I'm 97% on HF being town. When he's mafia his goal is pretty solely to secure his lynch (bus or no). Whereas town HF tends to evaluate things while pushing his lynch. He's taking the game in its entirety and analyzing the whole instead of nit picking points and no lube ramming his cock in the game. That's his town meta. Like I'd still like to see who and how he pushes at end of day but I see no reason to think he's scum. Makes me sad, I really want to lynch him one of these days.

On November 28 2014 14:28 geript wrote:

It's not nit picking with the intention to bury. Like you can tell his alignment based on what his goal is. Like cmon wave.

On November 28 2014 14:49 geript wrote:
Wave the best I can describe it is that HF whips out his dick and rapes the thread. Like he doesn't care about anything else. He just imposes his name and reads and shoves it down their throat. His only goal as mafia is to secure lynches. That's it. And that's not what I see here.

On November 28 2014 15:07 geript wrote:

That was exactly what he did in cultured.

On November 28 2014 15:22 geript wrote:
He ran who was getting lynched from mid D1 on. Like he only acquiesced on D2 or 3 to my push on Cavalinho maybe because I had a really good yow read on a newbie.

On November 28 2014 15:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm actually half inclined to support this plynch, just to see what happens.

This game is going to be fun.

On November 28 2014 19:34 marvellosity wrote:

this is pretty much why you never improve

*shrug*

the day I start lynching someone because I'm scared, is the day I stop playing mafia. Lynch someone because they're scummy.

On November 28 2014 20:28 marvellosity wrote:

So why are you shocked that I might be scumreading you?

What have you done that you can't have done as scum?

On November 28 2014 22:26 marvellosity wrote:
why mention something suspicious specifically? wat?

On November 28 2014 22:29 marvellosity wrote:

the thing is, the dude being blatantly jerkfacey/defiant is usually less likely to be mafia than the person who looks like they're trying to do something.

On November 28 2014 22:41 marvellosity wrote:
to add wave: he said that because rayn asked him to justify his weakreads, not simply of his own volition

On November 29 2014 00:03 marvellosity wrote:

GB first called out Elvis

Damdred (Elvis) going for Sentinel

Superbia going for GB

all somehow connected. hf.

On November 29 2014 00:48 marvellosity wrote:

Incorrect.

I have never, not even once, posted this much as mafia by this stage. Not even close.

try agaaaaaaaaaaain

:D:D

On November 29 2014 01:02 marvellosity wrote:
Wave, I'm kinda upset you didn't take more umbrage at my filter argument. You given into the silliness?

On November 29 2014 01:07 Superbia wrote:
I'll give some thoughts on both Elvis and Sent real quick, since I have played with both of them before:

Elvis - I've played with Elvis twice, and both times he was VT. Elvis was indeed a bit different at the start of the game than he was at the start of other games. I do not recall him ever joking around at the start of the game before. But to be quite frank, I don't particularly think this is very mafia-indicative:
1. Elvis is a new player, I'm expecting new players to switch up quite a bit, partially because they have to become comfortable with the game.
2. He subbed out and the fact that he subbed out so early also means that we only have a tiny bit of his gameplay to work with, and I'm not comfortable with lynching someone with only small pieces of information to work with. I don't really have a read on Damd yet, but I haven't taken the time to dive his filter either (and I probably won't take/have the time today).

Overall, I agree that Elvis' play did not look like his previous play, but I don't think that's enough to lynch his replacement.


Sentinel - I've only placed with Sent once, and we were both scum (Campus mafia). His play during d1 was different than what I see here, which initially made me believe he was probably town. However, I recall him saying early on in scum QT that he was planning to call me out on my first post as scum before he realized he was scum as well. This makes me believe that Sent is usually a fairly aggressive player, who is not afraid to call out people as scum straight up. This game I feel he has been passive and has given weak reads at best. This leads me to believe that he may very well be switching up his play a bit to hide: his play isn't the same as his scum-game with me, but I find it hard to believe this is his town-game based on the feeling I had on him in the scum QT during the scum-game (again, Campus mafia).

Overall, I would say that I am leaning scum on Sentinel, and wouldn't mind seeing a case on him by someone other than me (mainly because I have little time this evening).


GlowingBear - The interactions I had with GB last night did not really convince me he was town. I would like everyone who has not done so to give an opinion on the case, and what they think of GB. As it stands, my vote will remain on GB.

On November 29 2014 01:13 marvellosity wrote:

I 100% understand the vote.

Depending on how he justifies it :p

On November 29 2014 01:14 marvellosity wrote:
btw, just to note, Palmar dropped his shit little piece and has peaced out of the thread since.

DO NOT FORGET

On November 28 2014 11:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh yeah, and I forgot about palmar. I could totally see last second shenannies magically flying over to him at the end of the day and I'm not sure if I like that idea or not.

On November 29 2014 01:16 marvellosity wrote:

Admittedly it's pretty coinflippy.

On the other hand I always enjoy lynching Palmar.

On November 29 2014 01:46 justanothertownie wrote:

You only got there first because you have perfect information and are bussing as usual. :/

On November 29 2014 02:40 Palmar wrote:
Whoever started a mafia game on thanksgiving should be shot.

I'm out for tonight, I have a work-christmas-dinner-getdrunk-thing.

Just in case I actually get lynched. I haven't read much of the game so not too many reads I can give you. I actually feel fairly okay with thinking Superbia is town based on what I posted already. Don't disregard that evidence just because you think it's sorta dumb or weak.

Idk about marv, I kinda actually think I understand why he thinks I'm mafia, which makes him probably town. I've spent very little time on the game and he probably wants me to do other stuff, like read his posts. Then again, I'm sort of an easy target at the moment.

If marv is town, rayn is probably town too, in fact, it's extremely likely that most of marv's reads are correct, no matter his own alignment, because he's usually not blatantly wrong when he's mafia, just wrong enough not to lynch his entire team.

See you guys.

Pls no lynch.

On November 29 2014 02:47 marvellosity wrote:

Palmar never does that. I'm much more comfortable complimenting myself.

Dunno if it means anything though. Like you've seen how Palmar enjoys to dig at me "not that offsite game you ragequit because you're not man enough trolol" -----> "marv's reads are extremely likely to be right"

On November 29 2014 02:52 marvellosity wrote:
I think we give Palmar another day literally purely because there's zero information gained if he flips town

with that in mind

##unvote

On November 29 2014 02:55 justanothertownie wrote:

Now you are concerned witch catching scum instead of just lynching them suddenly?

On November 29 2014 02:57 justanothertownie wrote:

Earlier you wanted to lynch HF despite not being able to catch him.

On November 29 2014 02:59 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, wave?

On November 28 2014 16:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have a townread on wave which probably means he is scum.

If Palmar hasn't done anything when i get home from work i'll lynch him.

On November 29 2014 03:06 marvellosity wrote:
oh, i was just guessing Wave. Seems i guessed wrong

On November 29 2014 03:14 geript wrote:
I don't feel wholly comfortable lynching Rayn. He seems ok. I haven't gotten to interact with him but he passes the eye test for me. His set of questions to me is about what I expect from his town play.

On October 24 2014 20:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I am not lurking nor do i lurk as mafia. So wrong.
I have posted content so wrong again.
I have justified my reads and even if i havn't straight out said "why" it's easily readable between the lines. So wrong.
I ask questions because they lead to conclusions. If you don't understand where my question to robik is leading to fine. But just because you don't understand (yet) what i am doing doesn't make me mafia.

You ARE LITERALLY calling me out for things that are (1) incorrect or (2) things you just don' t understand.....
That sir is a mafia motivation. You are making a read that doesn't make any sense.

On October 25 2014 03:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
JAt please vote for HF.
Not kush. He is town.
Do yyou know where i stand? If not ask me. Hf is mafia.

On November 29 2014 03:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Am I stupid or are Waves recent posts really weird? He says he scumreads rayn takes FFL2 to prove that while thinking he was town there (?). Wut?

On November 29 2014 03:06 justanothertownie wrote:

If that is the only thing that's bothering you take a look at FFL2.

On November 29 2014 03:42 justanothertownie wrote:

Ok, let me get this straight. You say you could see rayn being scum but have doubt because he is playing so little. I present you a game where rayn does very little as scum.
What is there that does not make sense to you?

Then after that you go "rayn cares way more as town". Oh, yeah? If that is what you are thinking how come you doubted your read earlier because he played so little? Something doesn't add up here.

On November 29 2014 03:46 Holyflare wrote:


Honestly? I'm not really sure I have a read on him right now other than him seeming incredibly tunnelled on 2 people. If anything it's pretty odd that he called gb town for his case when most people thought the opposite seeing as gb was 1 of only like 2 people he focused on and he didn't even question him.

On November 29 2014 03:49 justanothertownie wrote:

Yes, I linked that game to sn0 to demonstrate that his read is wrong. I don't see how that changes anything.
What do you think I should do about it? I already said if rayn doesn't deliver soon he will be back on my lynch list.

On November 29 2014 04:16 Superbia wrote:


That's fair enough, but my history with playing with Palmar has always resulted in him getting lynched early on the game for an, in my opinion, dumb fucking reason (partially his own fault) and he flipped town.

This feels almost exactly the same as then. People are scum-reading him because of his inactivity/weirdness, he comes and gives some reads and says he'll not be around for EoD. He ends up getting lynched and I end up yelling at people for being stupid.

On November 29 2014 04:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
JAT and Wave get massive angry points.

I am moving to a new apartment on Monday. I have lived at my friends place for the last week. There are at least three people around me all the time i am not sleeping or at work. Every single day i have found time to play this game (or last two days) -- at every single break i have at work, and every single night when it's possible. I just drove 450km to pack my stuff ready for Sunday when i am driving back. Yeah i think i should be doing the packing right now so i can actually do it in time. But hey, here i am again. And then pretty much the first thing i find out some idiot has nerve to call me scum for "lurking".

No, this is not a defense. This is because i am pissed off. Especially coming from two guys who have wasted at least 24h of this day into saying ONLY useless shit.

On November 29 2014 04:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wave's reasons for scumreading me are UTTER SHIT and PROVABLY completely wrong.
Just because i do not post for 6 hours he decides to take a route where he switches discussion to me (while NEVER bringing up anything about my "carelessness" in this game up before) and push me as a lynch.

mafiamafiamafia!!!

On November 29 2014 04:54 justanothertownie wrote:

Come on. I am not believing for a second that this was your intention.

On November 29 2014 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wave go compare Cultured game to this one and to my "totally more caring scumgame".
Tell me what you find out. You have 10 minutes.

On November 29 2014 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I am asking you to back up your read because in Cultured game -- which you happened to play in i "lurked" the whole second half of D1 and ended up sheeping Holyflare on suki while i was "sure" Mocsta is mafia.

On November 29 2014 05:19 Sn0_Man wrote:

no it was before that
u tunneled town wos mega ultra super hard with koshi riding ur nuts

I tried to defend wos as hard as i could
wos flipped town
we almost fuckign lost and I was 1000000% sure u were scum cuz wos was obivously town but you forced his lynch anyway

On November 29 2014 05:22 marvellosity wrote:

quite possibly.

but as far as i'm concerned, it can wait.

i don't have the burning desire to lynch an "active" or "high profile" player right now.

do you have a reason to townread damdred's slot?

On November 29 2014 10:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wos am i scum or not?

On November 29 2014 10:34 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:

I replaced into a game and fired a nuke hours later in Nuclear Winter and hit scum. My hunches tend to be right most of the time.

My current hunches are:
Damdy
JAT/geript, one of the two
??? <- haven't thought of one here, because I'd never have that many bullets as vig anyway.

On November 29 2014 11:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Don't give me some probable shit.
Give me answers. with reasoning.