The Resistance: Avalon

On October 14 2014 16:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont expect anything.

Your plan is we let the leader do whatever he wants the vote. Correct?
Or is it just for day 1.

On October 14 2014 19:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
Boo

On October 14 2014 19:21 Palmar wrote:
Right, it'd be totally sweet if two of you could just pop in and massively towntell right now. We good with that?

On October 14 2014 19:37 liancourt wrote:
Marv pick marv

On October 14 2014 19:22 Palmar wrote:

liancourt should be quite obvious town if he is.

On October 15 2014 01:40 Palmar wrote:
well my top town suggested I should pick you marv.

Do you think that's a good idea? I'm honestly tempted to just yolopick me, marv, lian for posting more than other people.

On October 15 2014 03:20 batsnacks wrote:
Okay @marvelousity I understand what you're saying. Do you understand why I thought my idea would be good?

On October 15 2014 06:46 batsnacks wrote:


I think Palmar either town reads or is trying to town read marv. I think marv does not town read palmar.

On October 15 2014 13:23 Alakaslam wrote:
I like this group. It includes two vets, and an agreed townread.

Should succeed, see vote thread.

On October 15 2014 18:37 Oatsmaster wrote:

I'm sure Im not going to be a question for much longer, you suspicious freaks.

On October 15 2014 19:26 Blazinghand wrote:
I buy bats as town, he'd never be so obtuse as scum

On October 15 2014 19:29 Blazinghand wrote:
I feel like I am at my best as a mafia player when I'm calling people town by insulting them

On October 15 2014 22:18 Palmar wrote:
If that fails though, I am 100% calling you mafia until you ragequit.

On October 15 2014 22:17 Palmar wrote:


I think I'm okay with that.

Tbh I wanted our team just so I wouldn't have to deal with you. Given the high chance that lian is town it would've made the game so much less painful for me to basically "check" you day 1. (from my perspective)

I think Batsnacks is maybe town, I mentioned so already.

On October 16 2014 15:30 Alakaslam wrote:

And you thought my earlier statement was totally uninformed.

If we say no all the time we lose but you are mad I voted yes on an incredibly likely team.

PFFT, scumread me I need not go. I would rather go but if I must sit by and throw out my 2¢ and vote obstinately impartially, I will.

Heck that probably isn't a bad thing.

On October 16 2014 22:20 Oatsmaster wrote:

oh ok.

meh the 48 hours feels completely unnecessary.

On October 16 2014 22:42 batsnacks wrote:
I think oats' comments on the pace of the game are a little scummy. Even though I agree.

On October 17 2014 00:45 Alakaslam wrote:

Lian is the one i want to vett with this trip, I townreAd you and palmar because your plans make sense.

Also, the fact that you both read Lian as town makes me feel the mission will likely succeed.

On October 17 2014 20:28 Blazinghand wrote:
ugh, the point is that he's only obtuse, he's not buttinjured. this is a shallow reflection of the true bats you nitwits. can't a guy change his mind about stuff, I even say I changed my mind

if you're both town, after you finish calling me bad post game, I'm going to point out that you're awful for not noticing that I say "I changed my mind on batsnacks"

in fact, you can apologize to me then for not believing in me, yes.

On October 17 2014 20:35 Palmar wrote:
marv if you're mafia I will tunnel the shit out of you for like 3 games in a row. Also if you're town and one of the other guys is mafia I'm tunneling you anyway for shit reads.

On October 20 2014 05:56 batsnacks wrote:


Who's mafia in our group?

On October 20 2014 12:24 Blazinghand wrote:
oh, i get it now. welp, oats is definitely town

On October 21 2014 01:39 Alakaslam wrote:

See this is another way I know now that MARV and Lian are both scum.

I asked to be vetted and we are both here. However versus actually validating the bs about wanting to evaluate BH, palmar & I he just discredits anything I say.

Bullshit.

Anyway if people actually want to tango I will when I return. CBA.

On October 21 2014 03:27 batsnacks wrote:


This doesn't make sense to me.

Oats town by default -- not sure if mafia would declare another spy is town? Are you talking about scum!BH calling scum!oats town or...?

Are you talking about two spies? Or are you talking about 1 spy and 1 town?

On October 21 2014 03:26 Damdred wrote:
Trying to trap someone in some way is towny right?

Though i'm not sure how I feel about BH going out of his way to explain the trap to nullify it I guess

On October 21 2014 03:30 Damdred wrote:
I'm not sure marv, bats used a trap that was sorta like it in fantasy football mafia and he was town.

I don't think that this makes him exclusively town though but its more towny to me.

On October 21 2014 03:31 batsnacks wrote:


So are you going to nay?

On October 21 2014 03:34 batsnacks wrote:


I think you should switch to yay. I yayed.

I think it might work and I think you think it might work.

On October 21 2014 03:34 Alakaslam wrote:
Pheh.

Marv has ignored and discredited and acted like he didn't discredit in the face of arguments instead of attacking the arguments.

I will probably call him conftown next phase and then rail about him being scum again after that and then devolve into chipazoo, so why wait SSON?

Shalt seek the way of Bamcis, who says Holyflare is Merlin? What is the fatness of Palmar? What is the deep magic of Liancourt and Marv? Decipher the secret ritual!

Nay, none shall regard this for it is "encryption"

For I am creating vampires

On October 21 2014 03:36 batsnacks wrote:


Does this help?

On October 21 2014 03:47 batsnacks wrote:
So yay today. If it works we can do the same team tomorrow, avoid the 5 man teams altogether, and maybe win.

On October 21 2014 03:57 Alakaslam wrote:

"I don't even think it is necessary to tell you your post is silly. It should be obvious"

That is how that reads?

On October 21 2014 04:02 Alakaslam wrote:

What in the holy BUTTHIJOLE is he thinking he can get away with -

(Zooms in)

Wtf

WTF IT DIDNT SAY THAT BEFORE

(It totally did)

NO I HAVE 20/10 VISION SSON I CANNOT FAIL

I CANNOT

I

I failed to read a simple sentence XD

On October 21 2014 04:05 batsnacks wrote:


Wait... wait... you mean if we reject this mission we get to try the same mission again? It doesn't automatically move to the next mission even if we reject it?

On October 21 2014 05:28 liancourt wrote:
U guys all think oats is scum or what we want to see more teams?

If we are going to analyze votes we cant build this atmosphere of land sliding votes. Like the first mission everyone voted yay. Now everyone voted nay. Wat is there to analyze? Everyone nayed for the sake of naying. I dont want us to goto a 4th team when the pressure is on town and its easy for scum to manipulate.

On October 21 2014 05:46 Alakaslam wrote:

Blending in with town, who all voted nay

On October 21 2014 14:26 Blazinghand wrote:
Wait, so Oats. You weren't trying to fool scum when you made this post? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469022-the-resistance-avalon?page=22#426

because that post is like basically the same length as the explanation I gave. I can't imagine you didn't have time to say "votes will be revealed after they are tallied"... but somehow had time to write that. No, you must have been trying to help town, and now for some reason are claiming you weren't.

On October 22 2014 02:05 Oatsmaster wrote:

That's really dumb.

On October 22 2014 01:44 Blazinghand wrote:
I'd prefer a team to be oats + bats + 2 new players. rather than oats + bats + marv + one new player. I've also decided lian is acceptable. nay on this team cause it's not what I want

On October 23 2014 02:03 Blazinghand wrote:


Plausible deniability. You'd rather be teamed with two players.who play notoriously scummy as town. Also you wanted to be able to ask this question

On October 23 2014 02:03 batsnacks wrote:


Because Palmar is mafia too!

Did I guess right?

On October 23 2014 02:16 Blazinghand wrote:


Although marv thought you were obvious town, he was the only one basically. If Marv is scum and you're town, then there's no town Marv to point out your towniness, so you're a great scapegoat

On October 24 2014 11:14 Blazinghand wrote:
"blazinghand, you've been right all along"

"blazinghand, I finally see what you were saying. your play and logic was so high-level i actually couldn't understand it. But I understand now"

"blazinghand, you're correct. I can't believe I ever doubted you"

On October 24 2014 16:51 Alakaslam wrote:

There is victory



What now?

On October 24 2014 20:08 Palmar wrote:
tinfoil hat analysis tells me marv didn't want me on day 1 team because he didn't want me "confirmed" with him, rather confirm two people that were less likely to do shit.

On October 24 2014 22:27 marvellosity wrote:
there are things that townies do, and things that mafia do.

there are mistakes that townies make, and mistakes that mafia make.

You did not do what a townie does, and you made a mistake that mafia makes. It's quite simple.

On October 24 2014 23:22 Palmar wrote:

Yeah, like that time you ragequit, and that time you got yourself modkilled!

On October 24 2014 23:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
Bh doesn't count man.
Anyway
Fine, discount that.

Still works. You scum Bro.

On October 24 2014 23:39 Oatsmaster wrote:

Nope. See latest post. Think of that as the first post regarding this subject

On October 25 2014 21:56 liancourt wrote:
man i wanna roll scum just to see how i play.

seems like a scummy thing to say to just give up or a really frustrated townie, but i can't see marv actually trying hard as bh has so i don't see why marv should frustrated to make that post.

On October 28 2014 09:15 Alakaslam wrote:
See why do you not want to explain a scumread before a team is submitted?

I refuse to be rash.
Marv has not spoken.
Palmar has not spoken.
Batsnacks has not spoken.
OatsMaster has not spoken.
The point should be clear; also, this post is Machuu Pichuu on a cloudy day. I don't care if I spelled macchu picchu wrong.

On October 29 2014 06:49 Palmar wrote:
Right I still don't understand why we aren't just going with the team from day 1 and swapping out Oats.

I'm like this close to just allying with mafia.

On November 01 2014 00:49 Blazinghand wrote:
In terms of who I am including. I'm including Slam and Palm. Both of them have voted in ways that have helped town. They passed marv's team, and like me, they opposed the oats/lian team when it counted. It's still possible they're scum since marv was on the D1 team and he was scum, but scum would have no reason to oppose the Oats/Lian/Marv/Bats D2 team, so I have a strong townread. I also particularly find Slam townie. He... he got motivated. He tried to push people. He showed a sense of renewed vigour and need to inject energy into a flagging town that is consistent with town motivations. Slam is normally illegible, but by golly, this game he's trying, and I'm down for that. Palmar gets credit for the nayvote, and i'm honestly less strong on that read. I haven't sensed the usual vibes from Palmar, but Resistance is a different game.

On November 01 2014 02:13 Oatsmaster wrote:

You know, the best way to tell that your argument is shot is when nobody listens to you. Sorry marv.
Got rekted.

On November 01 2014 04:12 Blazinghand wrote:
So marv, you think bats is town?

On November 01 2014 05:30 Palmar wrote:
When in doubt I tend to go back to my early reads. Right from the start of the game I've thought lian is town. By this point if he's mafia the game is lost.

I also think marv is town. I mentioned it early. The only real problem with him being town is that he thinks I'm mafia, but I guess it's fair that I haven't really done all too much this game. Still, things like the little things I picked up on in his play (why I initially was okay with including him on my first team) should be more telling to him that I am town. But maybe he's just lazy. Still, if there was a townie on the day 1 team, then it's going to be marv, I think.

I can't remember why I decided early on that bats is probably town. I really should go back and figure that out. But I do remember feeling him to be pretty solidly town.

And then there's the fact that the mission succeeded...

To me, all that is needed and has been needed to finish this game in a victory, ever since day 2, is to simply include me in the team. And I got annoyed and lazy because people didn't townread me. People _always_ scumread me and it's getting really boring. Like the game is essentially solved from my perspective.

So yeah, I'm naying this, and I'll be defaulting to me/lian/bats/marv.

On November 01 2014 06:37 batsnacks wrote:
What am I supposed to cook when you're in town?!!!

On November 03 2014 17:08 Palmar wrote:

Why bats? he even nayed the team.

Why not me or slam?

On November 03 2014 19:55 Oatsmaster wrote:

horrific reasoning.
What the fuck dude.
Whos scum?
You dont even know.

On November 03 2014 23:44 Palmar wrote:
btw even if this passes, doesn't mean players are all clear btw, if one of my team is mafia, he isn't going to sabotage.

On November 04 2014 03:11 Blazinghand wrote:
hmm I don't like this team palm. I really don't see why there's all this trust in marv

On November 05 2014 02:06 Alakaslam wrote:
Unfortunately I think there isore than one

On November 05 2014 02:48 Alakaslam wrote:

The scum are not required to sabotage

On November 05 2014 02:50 Alakaslam wrote:

Fuck that

Resistance is not simple

On November 05 2014 15:28 Blazinghand wrote:


which would mean, i assume, scumreading bats?

On November 06 2014 07:59 Blazinghand wrote:
So Bats passing mission 1 as scum seems pretty unlikely since that would be a high level play. This was one of the reasons i had a townread on bats, and I assume the fact that the D1 mission passed is the main reason you're townreading him. Is this accurate, Marv?

Original Message From yamato77:
You're THE Merlin!

You know the identity of all of the spies, but you must not let them know lest they kill you and take control of King Arthur's Court!

The spies are Oats, Palmar, Kelsier

On November 06 2014 08:33 Blazinghand wrote:
And you yayvoted Oats adding himself to the team D2, then D3 you yayvoted literally everything? You're clearly not Merlin, given your voting pattern. If you're trying to make some sort of play here, Marv, I don't get it. If you're scum you're not drawing a counterclaim since Merlin would never CC

On November 06 2014 09:06 Damdred wrote:
I hate that this ended like this, i thought this game was going to be cool but everyone seemed so disinterested in it sadly

On November 06 2014 10:44 Blazinghand wrote:
This is my fault for not carrying town. By not stepping forward into the leadership role that only I am suited for, and by playing a following game, I let you all down. I let my faith in RNG and myself waver. I'll do better next time.

On November 06 2014 17:19 Palmar wrote:
Mafia won this game. Marv was 100% merlin. That's actually what I meant with "Oh, I get it". I had suspected it since day 1, and that was the moment I confirmed my suspicions in my mind.

There is no way I'm agreeing this was a draw.

On November 06 2014 13:32 Alakaslam wrote:
Palmar made one incredible play; insta confirmed liancourt town.

He made me extremely suspicious of Lian the rest of the game, and I was paranoid from there.

Marv agreeing on Lian with very little need for convincing therefore made me suspicious of marv.

Hijole