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On September 28 2014 05:31 VisceraEyes wrote:

I saw that and thought the same thing - but then I thought maybe he's mafia doing it to try and LOOK like Jester. Then I decided what a horrible waste of thought this was and decided to avoid this line of thinking.

For my part, I'm just going to TRY and play this like a typical D1 LYLO situation. You know, keep it simple.

On September 28 2014 06:27 Damdred wrote:
GB are you the boxer?

On September 28 2014 06:31 Damdred wrote:
That is good to know, GB. We will give our salad a double dash of that at the end hopefully! FOr great salad!

On September 28 2014 06:33 Damdred wrote:
Negative Oil and Vinegar, so we can give a double dash of it to our salad

On September 28 2014 07:12 Damdred wrote:
I can just feel something hilarious cominng and if CR rolled mafia again i'm so sorry.

On September 28 2014 07:17 Damdred wrote:
Oh hi guys i'm the boxer but uhhh i'm going to do Jester type activity so peace

On September 28 2014 07:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why is CR real boxer and not me? Because i said real before?

On September 28 2014 07:55 Damdred wrote:
Was that a slip ff? What did you mean?

Also please answer my question before, also what do you think of GB throwing suspicion on yourself and VE so fast like this?

On September 28 2014 07:57 Fecalfeast wrote:
I made the common mistake of trying to convey a tone on the internet. It was more of a "well if I'm not the real boxer, who is?"

I think he is reading me as someone who speaks English as a second language. Give me an hour or so [b] i have been sitting here getting nothing done while people glare at me.[b]

On September 28 2014 08:21 Damdred wrote:
YOu are acting like such a mafia or jester trying to look scummy right now gb

On September 28 2014 08:38 Fecalfeast wrote:
Do i need to take a pic of the shit I'm doing in order to have real life stuff going on? I am here and reading and still claiming boxer. CR is not town.

On September 28 2014 08:53 Chairman Ray wrote:
FF is town. Don't read him. I explain later.

On September 28 2014 08:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
GB - OV
Dam - OV
VE - OV
Fecal - Boxer
CR - Boxer

So that's everyone. We have 1 confirmed anti-town between GB/Dam/VE and we have 1 confirmed antitown between Fecal/CR.

I want to hear GB explain his reads, because right now I've got HIM and Fecal as the antitown. He came into the thread casting suspicion on me immediately, which frankly only someone with a deathwish does. Further he's gone on to non-explain his reads as if he's trying to get lynched. His reasoning for being so certain that I'm mafia that he "can't wait to see what I claim" is that my posts are "fluff". But if you look at my posts, I'm one of the first people in here questioning peoples' motives and reasonings, and frankly that he calls it fluff indicates that he's literally trying to die. I'd like everyone's opinion on whether he's more likely the mafia or the jester, but there's literally no way GB is town based on what I'm seeing so far. He's not doing anything but making unsubstantiated reads and claims he's "trying to figure out the game". From where I'm sitting nothing could be further from the truth.

On September 28 2014 09:07 VisceraEyes wrote:

What are you talking about I clearly missed that? And why is he clearly joking why could he not be the Jester? You have too much information man, you're not town. Are you mafia or the Jester? I think Maf because I think FF is Jester.

On September 28 2014 05:31 VisceraEyes wrote:

I saw that and thought the same thing - but then I thought maybe he's mafia doing it to try and LOOK like Jester. Then I decided what a horrible waste of thought this was and decided to avoid this line of thinking.

For my part, I'm just going to TRY and play this like a typical D1 LYLO situation. You know, keep it simple.

On September 28 2014 05:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also all the townies need to be on the same page this game. This means that if you're town, then it's your FUCKING JOB to make me and whoever else realize that shit. I'm counting on you.

On September 28 2014 05:40 VisceraEyes wrote:

All the townies have to find both the Jester AND the mafia so that they can all vote for the mafia. Why don't you like someone trying to find the Jester?

On September 28 2014 05:25 Fecalfeast wrote:
Damdred confirms himself in first post, obvious jester.

On September 28 2014 07:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
Btw i wont be that active. Phone posting from an empty house while cleaning it.

On September 28 2014 07:25 Fecalfeast wrote:
Counterclaim me real boxer. Do it.

On September 28 2014 09:18 VisceraEyes wrote:

The first post was a joke, there's no such thing as a "TYPICAL D1 LYLO SCENARIO". Clearly you missed the joke, but Mafia games are like, literally always played over more than one day. It was a very OBVIOUS joke that OH SHIT THAT YOU COMPLETELY MISSED! THAT MUST MAKE YOU MAFIA RIGHT?!

The second post is just me emphasizing what I feel to be the key ingredient in this setup. Not finding mafia, but convincing your fellow townies that your'e town. Something that if you're town right now you are NOT doing...so obviously it's NOT THAT OBVIOUS TO YOU GLOWINGBEAR.

And the OBVIOUS thing in the third post was obviously not obvious to Damdred because I had to ask him that fucking question. HE didn't think that it was OBVIOUS that townies needed to look for the Jester too, so what's the problem here? It was a question DIRECTED to Damdred, so why are you even saying "PSH OBVIOUS FLUFF IS FLUFF" WHEN IT WAS A DIRECT QUESTION TO DAMDRED IN THE FIRST PLACE?!?!!?!?

I'm really REALLY close to voting for GlowingBear out of rage, someone convince me he's either Jester or Town or I'm gonna do it.

On September 28 2014 09:13 Chairman Ray wrote:
Ok, I have a few minutes now. I think GB is not town because of this:



He reads FF as jester, and then leaves mafia in damdred, myself, and ve. At the time only me and FF claimed boxer, so from his perspective, I would be the real boxer if he thinks FF is jester. That is unless he considered the possibility that I could be fakeclaiming. When I did say that I fakeclaimed, GB was really surprised, so that wasn't the case.

On September 28 2014 09:23 VisceraEyes wrote:

By coming into the thread and looking for mafia. By questioning others motivations and scrutinizing their actions. EVERYTHING I've been doing, in short. NOTHING you've been doing.

On September 28 2014 09:32 VisceraEyes wrote:

You haven't though, I've literally demolished your case against me, it was nothing but you saying "Oh VE is mafia" and saying "fluff" when my posts aren't fluff. You're not trying to figure out anything, you're just posting and being active. Which is something, but not exonerating in this game I'm afraid.

Again, I'm going to ask you why "everything I'm doing is fluff" when I'm very obviously trying to figure out who is mafia. You think you've got it all figured out, so what are you even doing?

On September 28 2014 09:36 Chairman Ray wrote:


My plan was to claim the opposite role if I rolled town. If I claimed boxer and there was only one other boxer claim, then we have a confirmed town. FF is confirmed town now.

On September 28 2014 09:41 VisceraEyes wrote:

Okay, so what was your plan if you rolled Boxer? Because if you claim OV then there are two other OV's out there and NO one is confirmed because one of the anti-town claimed your role, and presumably the other one claims OV. Like....I'm not buying this as a "premeditated plan" at all.

On September 28 2014 09:43 VisceraEyes wrote:

Well, his claim is that he was planning on claiming the opposite town role before the game started or whatever, so order of claims doesn't really matter in this situation.

On September 28 2014 10:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
Before the game started I asked the purpose of th boxer role, and even askied "Is it just for claiming?" since a unique VT that is limited to 1 player seems only good for claiming to me. I rolled boxer, so I claimed. It was premeditated, in a sense.

I am at my shop until 10pm so unless there are customers I will be active til then.

On September 28 2014 10:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
OK I understand why I'm an idiot now. I think CR is jester. He's trying to wiggle out of his counterclaim a little too obviously I think. I mean if he said "I planned to claim boxer only if I rolled OV/VT" I would believe him but "I planned to claim the opposite town role" sounds hastily typed out in a panic. I still think CR is non-town but I think he is jester.

On September 28 2014 19:43 Chairman Ray wrote:


What did my unclaim mess up? I rescinded my claim IMMEDIATELY after the last person claimed. I didn't wait until people wasted time discussing the game assuming I'm claiming Boxer. My play may have been the only reason why FF is confirmed town, who you thought was anti-town.

On September 28 2014 16:28 VisceraEyes wrote:

I'm not assuming his "plan" is legit, in fact I'm one of the first who doesn't buy his explanation. I gave explicit reasoning as to why I think he's not mafia doing what he's doing, so that leaves me with town or Jester and I think town is more likely. I'm not assuming his plan is legit, and I STILL don't give a shit who claimed first.

I never said you're scum for getting things confused. I'm saying it didn't take much for you to "figure out" the game in the first place. So why when CLARITY is brought to the thread in the form of CR UNCLAIMING Boxer and making FF CONFIRMED TOWN, why are you confused then? It doesn't make any sense from the standpoint of a townie processing new information and making new conclusions. It makes sense from a perspective of a mafia who's just saying shit to try and appear active. So I think you're mafia. I never said anything about you being mafia "because you got things confused".

Like if you're town you really need to take a step back, realize that I'm town, and try and work with me - because this whole business of you just lol'ing everything I say and calling all of my contributions fluff and you setting up strawmen IS going to get you killed.

On September 29 2014 02:42 VisceraEyes wrote:

You tell me I'm rushing things when you're coming into the thread immediately upon starting saying "Game solved, vote VE and win GG"? Like, really?

On September 29 2014 23:54 Damdred wrote:
I'm ov, there's only one lynch currently being pushed and it is on gb
Either GB is townie or the jester, not sure why the jester would let all of this pile up on GB without getting heat on himself which might be what Cr tried but not sure.

I'm driving but will be more active soon.

On September 30 2014 02:07 Damdred wrote:
Its a tough call, VE or CR. CR has the acivity of someone who could be the jester whos just trying to lurk by, VE is trying to push a vote without actually voting himself. Both have a few anti-town points.

On September 30 2014 03:36 Damdred wrote:
So either we have three town here wanting to vote for VE, or gb is the mafia. FF what do you think? I'm leaning towards ve is probably mafia

On September 30 2014 03:42 Damdred wrote:
Are you that sold on CR being the jester and VE being the mafia gb? Why trust me over VE who put in more work than me but wanted to kill you?

On September 30 2014 04:09 Damdred wrote:
GB was the jester and was goig to unvote at the last second, we ruined the perect record

On September 30 2014 04:17 The_Templar wrote:

Yes, but it was a really risky play to immediately declare that you are willing to insta-lynch someone.

On September 30 2014 04:37 The_Templar wrote:

I didn't see what you were doing until you insta-voted VE… >.>

On September 30 2014 05:18 VisceraEyes wrote:

Unvoting was claiming Jester. You were never ever getting lynched if you unvoted me.

On September 30 2014 05:18 Blazinghand wrote:
So GlowingBear, the reason you stood out as a potential jester was your aggressive voting. It's a mistake I've made as jester as well, and it's an easy one to make. Basically, as jester you think, "I want to be lynched. An easy way to do this would be to pick a fight and then 'lose' the argument and get lynched. Alternatively, people will be suspicious of aggressive voting and go after me anyways"-- and this logic is basically correct. But think about how a townie looks at things in this game. If you're a VT, you see a confirmed town and 3 other players claiming to be VT. One of those players is a VT, and you don't want to lynch him. One of them is a Jester, and you definitely don't want to lynch him. Lastly, there's the scum, who you want to lynch. However, not only is the scum trying not to get lynched, the jester is trying to get lynched. Even worse, it's instant majority. If you cast a vote on a townie, and so does someone else, Mafia can hammer in a moment and it's game over.

As town, you're scared to vote. Scared shitless. You want all your ducks in a row before you even try anything, because even 2 votes on the wrong target is an instant loss. Basically, the only way town wins is if all three townies-- the 2 VTs and the BoxeR-- vote together on the mafia. The Jester will only help by accident, you can't rely on him.

So as a townie, throwing around a vote seems like a silly thing to do. If you see someone doing it, you don't even think it's mafia (who would rather be seen as a non-voter, then swoop in to hammer a townie). No, if someone is flinging around votes, they're probably a jester. It's not a certain thing, but it shows how something that seems like a reasonable move (picking fights) to a jester, seems like a jester-tell to town.

On September 29 2014 14:29 VisceraEyes wrote:

This is where I'm at, but more like 60% M, 20% J, 10% T. Like, I just don't think a Jester tries this hard to get lynched. Look at how GB's primary concern is getting a lynch on someone that's not himself - it's just really not good play if he's a Jester. Or really GOOD play, depending on your perspective, I mean if he's a Jester then he's doing a decent job of convincing ME that he's not, and to lynch him.

On September 30 2014 05:18 Blazinghand wrote:
So GlowingBear, the reason you stood out as a potential jester was your aggressive voting. It's a mistake I've made as jester as well, and it's an easy one to make. Basically, as jester you think, "I want to be lynched. An easy way to do this would be to pick a fight and then 'lose' the argument and get lynched. Alternatively, people will be suspicious of aggressive voting and go after me anyways"-- and this logic is basically correct. But think about how a townie looks at things in this game. If you're a VT, you see a confirmed town and 3 other players claiming to be VT. One of those players is a VT, and you don't want to lynch him. One of them is a Jester, and you definitely don't want to lynch him. Lastly, there's the scum, who you want to lynch. However, not only is the scum trying not to get lynched, the jester is trying to get lynched. Even worse, it's instant majority. If you cast a vote on a townie, and so does someone else, Mafia can hammer in a moment and it's game over.

As town, you're scared to vote. Scared shitless. You want all your ducks in a row before you even try anything, because even 2 votes on the wrong target is an instant loss. Basically, the only way town wins is if all three townies-- the 2 VTs and the BoxeR-- vote together on the mafia. The Jester will only help by accident, you can't rely on him.

So as a townie, throwing around a vote seems like a silly thing to do. If you see someone doing it, you don't even think it's mafia (who would rather be seen as a non-voter, then swoop in to hammer a townie). No, if someone is flinging around votes, they're probably a jester. It's not a certain thing, but it shows how something that seems like a reasonable move (picking fights) to a jester, seems like a jester-tell to town.