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let's get back to talking about superbia
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On September 27 2014 02:43 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 02:39 Holyflare wrote:On September 27 2014 02:36 GlowingBear wrote:On September 27 2014 02:30 Holyflare wrote:On September 27 2014 02:23 Holyflare wrote:On September 27 2014 02:23 GlowingBear wrote:On September 27 2014 02:17 StorrZerg wrote:On September 27 2014 02:04 GlowingBear wrote:On September 27 2014 02:01 StorrZerg wrote:On September 27 2014 01:17 GlowingBear wrote:
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LOL I totally rescind my read now that Haru is actually playing.
This is town Haru.
Hence why your push was terrible. You started pushing someone that was clearly busy. All you had to do was wait and see. If haru followed true, he would have been posting. After worlds with no pressure. Your push literally acomplished nothing. Your read is now based off haru being active now and playing. So bad I haven't read him town for him being active, I read him town because his posts sounded townish. I have a good grasp of how haru sound as town and how he sounds as scum. You're scum this game, storr, and I'll prove it soon enough Must be really be really hard to explain your change of view on haru? ( explain what he did that makes you town read him) so yeah, I'm going to pull that read you used for hf mafia for failing to continue pressure on haru. Wait, hf actually backed off for a reason he said. You have not. Secondly must be a bitch as mafia when you try and lynch a confirmed town. If I say, I'll make Haru self aware and he will use it as scum. I'd rather say I believe he is town because his last posts sounded townish. I haven't backed off when people said Haru is town. I backed off when I've got my own read from Haru, which is different from what HF did. God, I want to lynch you so hard. (Not God. You.) I still don't understand why you keep repeating this thing about me. Fully explain how it's scummy and what exactly you would have done when you made a case and then it was disproved by some evidence? you're not escaping from this GB I've seen you starting a strong case against a team mate and after some little time you backed off. It happened on the last game we were scum together. What people have brought was not evidence, was speculation. It was "I think he is lying" versus "I don't think he is lying". It's not strong enough to make someone say "you don't think he is lying? Ok I don't think he is lying either, then". Specially in the beginning of the game where it's easy to mafia to back up a partner with enough time to lead a mislynch to someone else. This is my explanation why it felt scummy. But the rest of your game started looking townish to me. The end. did you not read the thread at all?!?! I din't back off because of speculation. I pushed it when these people were saying that but then haru came in with his quote (evidence) that he meant blue!? On September 25 2014 08:42 HaruRH wrote:Yes. I didn't reveal i was blue yet at that point in the game. However, i obviously meant blue. HaruRH
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Meh.
Tired of blue roles.
6/11 blue in my games. Do you call this evidence??? REALLY??? Because mason is sooooooo different from vt
wow... he literally says im so happy to be GREEN, how is that not evidence?! if it was what i was typing it would be so happy to be TOWN
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On September 27 2014 02:49 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 02:39 StorrZerg wrote:
"Says that's the end", continues to post about it... So productive @hf answer my question
what question?
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when he says GREEN he is not meaning the color
this is hilarious btw, should be a quote
also, i don't know GB it depends on thread sentiment and what I feel like doing? There is no answer to it.
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On September 27 2014 02:51 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 02:28 StorrZerg wrote:On September 27 2014 02:25 Holyflare wrote:
So when you guys want to stop being useless and comment on my actual game relevant information you can do that thanks. I am explain why GB avoiding the haru read is pro town.
oh it looked like you said you were explaining w/e.... it's not pro town
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stop sidetracking! comment on the case comment on superbia comment on something useful that's not generic crap about me or how gb's actions are doing one thing or another
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i am sad that there is no medic in this game
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On September 27 2014 03:00 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 02:52 Holyflare wrote:
stop sidetracking! comment on the case comment on superbia comment on something useful that's not generic crap about me or how gb's actions are doing one thing or another I'm not. I'm pushing a scum read who continues to hinder town. I'm biased on superbia since he town read me. I think I understand his read, but I can agree he should explain more.I can't explain it now, cause if it sounds good "he will just sheep" so yes, I want him to explain more to make sure I'm just not being pocketed.
what an awful statement when i just proposed a case that showed this read was entirely fabricated and he lied about his town read being explained previously and his differences in giving out these town reads
not to mention that it was a super shallow town read when he even said he couldn't read you day 1 and you often fool him so not only is it weird in that regard but it's super odd you aren't going to comment on it at all
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he is still my backup wagon
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On September 27 2014 03:27 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 03:04 Holyflare wrote:On September 27 2014 03:00 StorrZerg wrote:On September 27 2014 02:52 Holyflare wrote:
stop sidetracking! comment on the case comment on superbia comment on something useful that's not generic crap about me or how gb's actions are doing one thing or another I'm not. I'm pushing a scum read who continues to hinder town. I'm biased on superbia since he town read me. I think I understand his read, but I can agree he should explain more.I can't explain it now, cause if it sounds good "he will just sheep" so yes, I want him to explain more to make sure I'm just not being pocketed. what an awful statement when i just proposed a case that showed this read was entirely fabricated and he lied about his town read being explained previously and his differences in giving out these town reads not to mention that it was a super shallow town read when he even said he couldn't read you day 1 and you often fool him so not only is it weird in that regard but it's super odd you aren't going to comment on it at all I said i wanted him to explain more about his read... you getting your panties in a bunch isn't helping.
i want you to comment on it before he says anything because it's not just about reading him it's about reading you and i'm not interested in joke responses from you
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skydragon do you have any links to other games you've played off site?
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On September 27 2014 03:38 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 03:29 Holyflare wrote:On September 27 2014 03:27 StorrZerg wrote:On September 27 2014 03:04 Holyflare wrote:On September 27 2014 03:00 StorrZerg wrote:On September 27 2014 02:52 Holyflare wrote:
stop sidetracking! comment on the case comment on superbia comment on something useful that's not generic crap about me or how gb's actions are doing one thing or another I'm not. I'm pushing a scum read who continues to hinder town. I'm biased on superbia since he town read me. I think I understand his read, but I can agree he should explain more.I can't explain it now, cause if it sounds good "he will just sheep" so yes, I want him to explain more to make sure I'm just not being pocketed. what an awful statement when i just proposed a case that showed this read was entirely fabricated and he lied about his town read being explained previously and his differences in giving out these town reads not to mention that it was a super shallow town read when he even said he couldn't read you day 1 and you often fool him so not only is it weird in that regard but it's super odd you aren't going to comment on it at all I said i wanted him to explain more about his read... you getting your panties in a bunch isn't helping. i want you to comment on it before he says anything because it's not just about reading him it's about reading you and i'm not interested in joke responses from you your main issue is how he town read me. Me explaining his town read from my point of view doesn't help. Your concern is him. Let him explain, i'll comment after. Why don't we move on to skydragon right now who is active and posting
this is just not true at all the town read on you is only part of it and yes it does help me, stop being a twat and explain yourself
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i'm not lynching skydragon today over superbia and hopeless
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i don't think you're paying any attention to anything at all storr it's pretty bad
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+ Show Spoiler +On September 27 2014 01:18 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 00:18 Superbia wrote:
This is currently my world:
Town:
StorrZerg - I've explained it before and the read is still the same. A thousand bonus townpoints for backing off on SkyDragon. Storr is going to stay in my towncircle unless something changes d2+.
Null (but special):
batsnacks - His push on GB read town to me. But then he pushes on Sky which is really fucking easy at that point in time. He does instantly back off as soon as Storr does. This might just be scum trying to buddy up by sheeping Storr, which would mean that Sky is town. As such, I'm ready to put bats on my scum list if Sky flips town (which means I'm decently happy to lynch Sky today).
Palmar - Palmar trying to take charge of town is scaring the shit out of me. Where was this Palmar last game? What changed? I like his Hopeless push, it's someone who I've felt might be scummy as well. But ugh. Does anyone have any information on Palmar's scumplay with links and shit? Because at this rate I'm never going to have a good read on him unless we lynch hopeless and he flips scum, which I'm not convinced about at this point in time.
Palmar, what is your opinion on FF? Have you read what I've said about him? If so, what do you think?
Scum:
Fecalfeast - Read still the same, he hasn't done anything significant since I've given this read except go on Sky, which seems like a very fucking easy lynch/push at that point. The fact that no one else has pinged you out for this is also really weird. Scum should be on your fucking ass for this shit, but no one is. You're scum.
SkyDragon (leaning) - You've been given some space, I'm expecting you to use this space before the EoD to come up with some good content. Failure to do so means I lynch you.
Hopeless (leaning) - Palmar has given a decent push on hopeless already. His filter feels devoid of any kind of proactivity. Why are you fine with sitting back and just giving comments? Fucking do something (see below). I would also really like to see you start a push on someone. I'd prefer lynching FF and Sky (if he keeps lurking) over hopeless right now, but I think we have a somewhat decent shot of hitting scum here if we want to go down this path.
At this point I would like a town/scum circle/list from the following people before EoD:
- Hopeless1der
- Glowingbear
- ObiWanShinobi
- HaruRH
- FecalFeast
- Batsnacks
- justanothertownie
- StorrZerg
##Vote: FecalFeast Just going to go out there and say this is almost the worst post in the thread. I said before and apparently superbia just criticised me for not reading it so I'll show you why it's ultimately terrible. First and foremost, his read on storr is so weird because it relies on storr stopping pushing on his scum read because a lot of pressure was on the scum read (many people have actually done this but superbia only focuses on storr here for no reason). Secondly, his null reads on Batsnacks and Palmar. Not only is his read on batsnacks super duper supppperrrr wishy washy it is ridiculous. He gives town points to storr for backing off on skydragon but then when batsnacks has supposedly posted towny things (in superbia's eyes) and then does the same thing as storr batsnacks could be scummy!?!?!? Not only that but then he further adds the scummiest thing ever in this paragraph that if skydragon flips town that batsnacks is scum. This is so uncalled for and makes so little sense that it screams scummy to me. His Palmar read is meh and he can't be bothered to research it for himself but it's not really anything to care about other than him only being able to trust palmar if hopeless flips mafia despite palmar pushing several people and not just hopeless. Now. Shit gets scummy. Not only does superbia scum read skydragon but throughout this entire post he has been saying people are scummy for scum reading and pressuring skydragon. Not only should this be contradictory to his own thought process but instead he should be determining the opposite reads, that the people pressuring his scum reads are more towny. Apparently just because he pressured sky when everyone else did fecal becomes somehow the scummiest out of EVERYONE in the game that did the same thing. Despite still scum reading sky. He also uses some crap about nobody calling him out for it which doesn't make any sense because what he has posted hasn't been too bad when I looked at it. Hopeless read is.... not really a read but w/e
+ Show Spoiler +On September 27 2014 02:19 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 01:35 Superbia wrote:
HF, what the fuck dude. Read the fucking context (AND READ MY FILTER). I've explained before why I feel Storr is town, him backing off just adds to that. Bats is just like "yeah I guess we should back off like Storr said" (not exact quote) so no, he doesn't get fucking town points for that. Yeah, maybe my "skydragon flips town -> bats is probably scum" read is a bit extreme, but I don't think it's completely uncalled for here. Furthermore, it's for a later point in time anyway so I'm expecting to have a better read on bats then anyway.
If plenty of people jump on a certain person after he's been read scummy by others, then that fucking stands out to me. Two worlds:
Sky is town -> at least 1 scum jumped on him. In this case my bet would be on Bats at this point in time, because he sheeped storr backing off so hard.
Sky is scum -> Less information, not going to draw any hard conclusions from this.
Stop wasting my fucking time dude, I don't have all the time and energy in the world. If you have questions fucking ask them, don't just start some shitty push on me because then I have to fucking walk through my entire thought process. Now I have to fucking go and my time could've been spent on something more productive. I'll be back before EoD. The red is just a flat out lie: Show nested quote +
StorrZerg gets a daypass for today! Reason is quite simple, I've seen Storr's scum game twice now (last game and watching mafia all-stars) and I'm pretty confident in identifying it (d2+).
can't read till day 2 ^ Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 07:43 Superbia wrote:
Why would I even consider Storr today if I feel I can easily read him during later days?
Sky, would you support a hopeless lynch? ^ not considering today can read later Show nested quote +Storr is scum: d1 he fools me, probably gets a misslynch. d2 I probably get a scumread on him and want to kill him.
Storr is town: d1 gets a pass, d2 I probably read him as town this day and rest of all days to come. ^ he will fool you on day 1 and day 2 you can read him thennnnnnnnnnnnnnn Show nested quote +Town:
StorrZerg - I've explained it before and the read is still the same. A thousand bonus townpoints for backing off on SkyDragon. Storr is going to stay in my towncircle unless something changes d2+. magically your town read evolves out of nothing and he gets 1000 town points for doing something relatively straightforward but apparently you've already explained how he he is town and now you just get angry when I know your filter better than yourself The rest of your post is exactly what I was talking about before, you're living in a super world where sky flips town and making associations based on that despite him not flipping, yet, for some reason, the alternative isn't worth your time exploring despite being an easier thing to do. ESPECIALLY as you're scum reading sky so that should be the universe you are living in.
+ Show Spoiler +On September 27 2014 02:22 Holyflare wrote:
Also your main scum read was fecalfeast who you said was jumping all over skydragon yet your choice of one scum jumping on skydragon was seemingly batsnacks who actually pulled off of skydragon. It's mindbogglingly inconsistent.
here is everything so you can pay attention now and comment on more than just his useless town read of you because it is so so so much more than that
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On September 27 2014 04:14 Superbia wrote:All right, I'm back. Let me explain my read on StorrZerg one last time. I'm pretty confident in hard-reading him from d2+ (it has to do with proactivity). This does not mean I can't have any other reads on him, nor does it mean that is my only read on him. I feel like Storr is town already, simply based on how proactive he is (and his pushes make sense). The thousand town points I gave him are arbitrary, but him giving Sky some space felt very town to me. I was reading him town before this, however. Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 02:22 Holyflare wrote:
Also your main scum read was fecalfeast who you said was jumping all over skydragon yet your choice of one scum jumping on skydragon was seemingly batsnacks who actually pulled off of skydragon. It's mindbogglingly inconsistent. This is actually a really good point. I can't believe I missed this. I feel a lot better about bats now. Going to read the rest of the thread now and do some diving on JAT. If there are any other questions feel free to ask them, I'm no longer in a rush.
It's very weird that you decide to make a list post, which is already pretty inconsistent with what you were doing in your newbie game before but then NOT include everything about the player that you are town reading or scum reading is it not? It is also particularly strange that you stated you had given reasons for storr being town previously but you had not at all. So really, the only reason in your filter for storr being town is his leaving pressure off of skydragon. It is only now that you are retroactively adding things on.
You've also neglected to comment on why you decided it was best to live in worlds where scum were likely to be pressuring skydragon repeatedly when you are scum reading skydragon yourself. If you are scum reading this person then why are you scum reading people for continuing to pressure their scum read......? Why aren't you instead dismissing any potential world where skydragon flips mafia. Your entire reads are based off of him flipping town pretty much.
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On September 27 2014 04:17 Superbia wrote:
Also why did you link to my newbie game's filter but not my more recent game's filter?
You don't have games in the database so i clicked an arbitrary page number in your profile and saw the newbie. It's kind of bad but I actually forgot you were in the last game with me.
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Why are***** you instead dismissing any potential world where skydragon flips mafia. Your entire reads are based off of him flipping town pretty much.
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On September 27 2014 04:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Lol I'm getting lynched with only 3 votes?
This is bizarre. Let me think about this vote count a little
Why have you been saying my case is really good but then opting out of all discussion and then not even voting with my case?? I thought you wanted nothing more than to get discussion going.
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